PERRY: Partisan purgatory becomes an American hell when we can’t even admit to torture and depravity

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No need to fret about the country sliding into unstoppable iniquity. We’re there.

That much became apparent yesterday when the U.S. Senate released a years-in-the-making secret report on allegations of the CIA torturing prisoners after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

There was little doubt about it being true even before the shocking report was released, but the gruesome and revolting details of what the CIA did to accused terrorists is beyond the pale, and until yesterday, beyond what the United States would ever allow or take part in. Not so long ago, it was our job to fight against such atrocities around the world, not partake and defend them.

cheneyScores of prisoners were locked away in small boxes, subjected to weeks of sleep deprivation, water-boarded repeatedly and incessantly, physically abused, psychologically abused, threatened with their death and threatened with the death or sexual abuse of their family members. Despite the effort of many, and I mean many, to justify these heinous acts by calling them laughable euphemisms like “enhanced interrogation,” it was torture. It was sick.

The sheer depravity of what the CIA did, and how they lied about it to Congress, to the White House and to the American people, is mind boggling and chilling.

But that’s not even the worst of this sordid nightmare. About half of the U.S. Senate continues to deny that the CIA did anything wrong or inadvisable during the years that will become known as the darkest hours of our democracy. All but  a few Republican senators deny what the CIA did was torture. And they insist that the torture they deny the CIA did was productive in providing information that staved further terrorist attacks and even led to the location and killing of Osama Bin Laden. The continue to promote this even though it’s irrefutable by the evidence that, just like experts agree, torture does not provide credible, valuable intelligence. It only provides trouble.

Here’s trouble, America.

The denial of the international crimes committed by the CIA, and the denial of the facts that torture did and does nothing to extract reliably vital intelligence, makes yesterday one of the saddest and most worrisome days in U.S. history.

Republicans chose petty politics over honesty and decency yesterday, and they made a pact with depravity that endangers every American life from this point forward. Members of the GOP in the Senate have aligned us with the North Koreans, the Soviets and other morally corrupt groups that live by a code that could be our undoing: justifying any means by the end.

Not all Republicans could go that far. Sen. John McCain, the only member of the Senate who can speak to the disgust of torture from personal experience, lambasted the CIA for what was made unequivocal in the 500-page report.

“I know, too, that bad things happen in war. I know in war good people can feel obliged for good reasons to do things they would normally object to and recoil from,” he said. “I understand the reasons that governed the decision to resort to these interrogation methods, and I know that those who approved them and those who used them were dedicated to securing justice for the victims of terrorist attacks and to protecting Americans from further harm. I know their responsibilities were grave and urgent, and the strain of their duty was onerous. But I dispute wholeheartedly that it was right for them to use these methods, which this report makes clear were neither in the best interests of justice nor our security nor the ideals we have sacrificed so much blood and treasure to defend.”

We are now the monsters we set out to undo in the world. We are the criminals we sacrifice so much to protect our country from. We tortured our enemies, and now we are justifying it, and we are trying to further cover it up, and we are lying about it.

It doesn’t get much worse than that.

We did not heed the warning of those like McCain, who know what they’re talking about when they say torture doesn’t work. Instead, it robs us of our credibility and superior position. It inspires our enemies to do the same to American soldiers and civilians. It would be difficult enough to maintain higher moral ground in condemning the unspeakable acts of terrorism that groups like the Islamic State, the Taliban and Al Qaeda carry out each week. But now that half of the legislative part of the government defends our corrupt and inhumane chamber of horrors, we have no credibility to demand that anyone else stop.

Yesterday was an opportunity to admit the CIA’s horrible, and in some ways understandable, mistake. It was a chance to apologize to the world for acting out of panic rather than good sense. But it was squandered by fools in the Senate. Instead, we sealed the country’s moral failure, drawing us perilously closer to a place most of America does not want to go. If we can’t put aside politics for something this grave and dangerous, there’s little else to hope for.

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Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago

This was a report by and from Senator Feinstein alone, with her petulant last thrust on losing chairmanship of committee. And only that. She cherry picked the portions of document, did not interview the people whose lives she has endangered. And she, like you, does not realize how this will resonate in Jihadist minds for decades. If you think this is good idea, Dave, volunteer to go over to middle east and do it from there. Put your own rear end on the firing line. Sen. McCain did seem to support the report being released. He endured torture of much more brutal form, and believes that false information is given. That is true, but when interrogators have info from several sources, they can use that false information to good advantage too. Just as the Koreans and Vietnamese did with their propaganda, of putting that false info forward to world press. And World press ran with it. Our military win the fights, but lose the propaganda wars. Reason Democrats have been so successful against Republicans, since we have so much of press in the tank for this administration. You and your peers can censor or just not report what you don’t want to. ——————-CIA, FBI, and other intelligence agencies have to accept lies against them, since Secrets are only secrets if not talked about or printed. NY Times and Washington Post are tops in giving aid and comfort to the enemy, since they report information leaked to them. Other editors and media used to have a bit more reticent about that. In WWII, military censors kept classified material out of letters, papers, off radio. Gen. Patton called all reporters together, informed them the info they would receive was classified, AND HE WOULD PERSNALLY SHOOT THE REPORTER WHO FILED A REPORT, GIVING THAT INFO. We need more Gen. Patton’s in todays world.

reader
reader
7 years ago
Reply to  Frank2525

wrong again Frank. Both republicans and
democrats voted for this 5 1/2 year investigation.
Documents within the CIA were compiled, and
the incidents of illegal, immoral torture are all well
documented in the report. You might not agree
with the report, but facts are facts. It’s time to
learn from this report, admit when we are wrong,
and agree that this will never happen again.
I personally would like to see the people who
sanctioned this behavior be prosecuted, but
unfortunately, that might be asking too much.

reader
reader
7 years ago
Reply to  reader

Senator John McCain supported the release of this report. He said the enhanced techniques “failed their purpose – were ineffective, damaged security interests, damaged our reputation, and citizens have the right and the responsibility to learn what was done in their name.

ezaspie
ezaspie
7 years ago
Reply to  reader

Frank lives in the bubble. I imagine you just earned a 3 page response from the bubble.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

Are you still hanging around. I thought I suggested you go lay on a freeway with your peers.

ezaspie
ezaspie
7 years ago
Reply to  Frank2525

Frank you are so commie you panties are pink. Anyway isn’t there an iceberg quietly calling your name out there. Just think how serene it would be, if we could put you on an ice floe and you could be left to float away into the sunset

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

Boy, you are like the cow ooze that used to seep up between my toes on the farm. But at least I could to the trough and wash that off. And I outgrew that, after the 1930s when no one had any money. Now wear shoes and stay away from the bull xxxx, except on the net from the tweaters.

ezaspie
ezaspie
7 years ago
Reply to  Frank2525

Oh Frank you rascal.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago
Reply to  reader

That report was from Senator Feinstein, and no republicans joined in that report. I am not going to argue with you, but President, Vice President, National Security Adviser, legal decisions would be only ones involved. Just as VP Cheney was asked about Sen. Udall comment on calling for CIA Director to resign over this. VP stated “I don’t know where he was, but he was not in the bunker”. None of those people (ankle biters) were in chain of command and that decision was above their pay grade. As for Feinstein, she was a member of that committee in 2001, and only rose to chairmanship later. ———We were not wrong with what was done, and the key people were briefed regularly. Without going into details, I worked in organization and few years before that, I worked at my desk, with others at adjoining desks. I worked on Top Secret stuff, and those other had NO NEED TO KNOW WHAT I WAS DOING, WHAT I WAS INVOLVED WITH. Whatever floats your boat, go for it. I don’t hate anyone, but I despise those who agree to something, before they decide not to. Reason we are now the laughing stock of the world, and no one respect this administration. ——One other item: I lost two friends in Pentagon when plane came through the wall. My youngest son attended a training class in WTC on about 40th floor, the year before (2000) and at end of training, he stayed on to work with the instructor to help with repairing and adjustments to equipment. So I take direct exception to changing policies of this country forced into wealth redistribution policies. I personally lost $80,000 from my property assets with illegal aliens living in our state (sanctuary) due to Governors policies. Following Obama lead.

Guest
Guest
7 years ago
Reply to  Frank2525

Frank you let me down, only one page of rant. I had 3 for the win.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago
Reply to  reader

Immoral torture my aching rear end. My grandson , Captain in Marines, went through worse treatment to gain his commission, and since then, attending survival training. He pilots prowlers (Marine) and was in Afghanistan, Qatar, Japan, where he flew combat missions. All our military are trained in evasion, escape, torture, water and other hazards training, and what to expect, if captured. So don’t talk about immoral torture. Would you prefer we saw heads off with dull knives, as jihadists do, to gain your fear? I don’t care personally what is done to those thugs, who hide among the women and children, even killing some if enough are not killed by our drones, to use for press releases. If you aren’t in the battle, you have no place at the criticizing table.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago
Reply to  reader

John Yoo was just on Fox News and stated he was not interviewed for that report, or any of the decisions by the committee. VP Cheney made same statement earlier today, and definitely President and VP were both active entities’ in that decision. Several ranking CIA directors and project managers were on today, stating they were not interviewed or contacted by committee, and had nothing to do with that report. Sen. Feinstein, in her opening remarks said this would be last report from committee, since control and leadership would change in 2015, so if she did not release the report, “it would not be released”. John Kerry and prior directors of CIA requested she not release it. And her release will be a problem for next 20,30, 40 years. Get it through your head, Democrats lost big in November, due to this crappy policy of supporting something, then not supporting it.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago

For all who read this, I will make it short. Listen to VP Cheney, John Yoo, and above all review testimony of Director CIA Brennan, just now. He made it very plain. No one knows for sure what information is gained or not gained, by whatever means. What was done 13 years ago was legal, and in line with finding out who attacked us, why, where they came from. ——————And remember Bill Clinton administration was the one who considered first attack on WTC in 1993 by Blind Inman and his supporters, considered as Police Action (Crime problem), tried them and in jail-prison had assistance of a female attorney in NY, who carried instructions and planning out. He planned the 2nd attack from jail-prison and 19 young guys hijacked our planes, flew them into WTC and in 17 minutes brought down all the facility, killing near 3,000 Americans, wall of Pentagon, and 4th plane flown into ground in Pennsylvania killing all passengers. No one knew what their target building was, but it was in Washington.
There will always be soft-headed people, with liberal ideas, as we see now with Ferguson, NYC, and all across the country of those who will not wait for truth, evidence, but will destroy and endanger others. CIA and Intelligence work is only successful if we can keep it away from the media. Secrets are only secrets, if they can be kept as such. Been there, done that. Now fully retired, and disgusted with some of the postings across this nation, of ill-informed, or actual twisting of truth for agenda and politics.

Frank2525
Frank2525
7 years ago

This is the most disastrous release of information that cannot be verified or even corrected for obvious reasons. Intelligence agencies should not be examined, talked about or even asked about in un-cleared, unknown media or personnel. It has always been policy for CIA not to confirm, or deny any charges. When a project has negative outcome, it makes the papers, but is not explained or discussed in open media. Held in classified meetings, with proper oversight and supervisory personnel, at highest levels. Senator Feinstein cherry picked documents, made her own decisions on what they said, in conjunction with Democrat members of committee. —- I had read that when questions were asked years ago, and DOJ did investigation, finding no one or issue to be indicted or taken to trial, the Republicans left committee, since it was moot. With her authority being questioned this year, from EGO, she has damaged CIA and our intelligence agencies worse than Admiral Stansfield Turner did in the Carter years. CIA Director Turner forced knowledgeable, senior personnel to resign, retire, or he replaced them, with less qualified personnel, who were no-risk takers. And CIA did not pick up on North Vietnam plans, with USA and South Vietnam being attacked in 1950. That country is still split between Communist, and Democracy with constant problems. Our Military and Intelligence personnel will be in danger for decades, and needed information will not be collected, or made known to us. Shameful, and her actions is despicable.