AURORA | On the eve of an election to decide whether pit bulls should be allowed back in the city, a large dog that killed a small shih tzu last week still hasn’t been found, police said Monday.
The dog, which witnesses described as a brown-and-white pit bull named Bandit, killed the smaller dog Oct. 29 in an apartment complex near East Colfax Avenue and Sable Boulevard, according to police reports. Police said they could not confirm the breed of the dog because they couldn’t find it.
Maria Martinez, 15, said she was walking her shih tzu, Baby, late last Wednesday night when the pit bull attacked. She said she was just outside her door when the larger dog charged Baby, bit him in the neck and ran off with the dog in its mouth.
Martinez said her dog was screaming while the larger dog shook it.
Other neighbors yelled at the pit bull’s owner to make his dog stop, Martinez said, and the owner hit the dog with a stick or a broom to try to make it drop Baby. The dog finally dropped the little dog, but picked him up again seconds later and killed him, she said.
After the attack, police charged Sean Moore, 47, with keeping a vicious animal. Moore said the dog wasn’t his, but he was dog sitting for a relative who lives in Texas. Moore said he chased the dog after the attack, but could not find it, according to the report.
Witnesses, however, told police that after the attack, Moore caught the dog and ran off with it.
Moore told police the dog leapt from a second-story balcony to attack the smaller dog, but Martinez said that isn’t true. Instead, Martinez said, the dog was in the courtyard off leash when it attacked Baby.
Martinez said the attack has left her fearful of big dogs, but she doesn’t blame pit bulls in general. She said she has friends with pit bulls and the dogs are usually nice.
“I like pit bulls,” she said. “It’s just the people who make them aggressive.”
Attempts to reach Moore on Monday were unsuccessful.
Police reported that witnesses told them that the pit bull jumped from a second-floor balcony, but the small dog’s owner said she didn’t see the dog jump, just that it came at Baby.
Aurora police spokesman Officer Frank Fania said Monday that the suspected pit bull had not been found, and that police could not confirm whether it was a pit bull.
The breed is banned in Aurora and voters will decide Tuesday whether to lift the city’s 9-year-old ban on the dogs.


Ms. Martinez, you really need to educate yourself about the dog that just killed your dog. That is not trained behavior, that is natural for the breed. They were bred to fight and kill. Sorry about Baby.
Carli Webb- please don’t disrespect this very smart and strong 15-year-old. She has just experienced a trauma and has the courage to speak the truth. She is wise beyond her years. You on the other hand are childish and insipid. While you are sipping tea with Meredith Clifton and friends, other advocates are reaching out to this family to help them. If the attacking dog is a pit mix- so be it. If not we will treat the case the same. A dangerous dog is an action- not a breed.
Canine Behavioral Genetics: Pointing Out the Phenotypes and Herding up the Genes
An astonishing amount of behavioral variation is captured within the more than 350 breeds of dog recognized worldwide.
Inherent in observations of dog behavior is the notion that much of what is observed is BREED SPECIFIC AND WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAINING OR MOTIVATION. Thus, herding, pointing, tracking, hunting, and so forth are likely to be controlled, at least in part, at the genetic level. Recent studies in canine genetics suggest that small numbers of genes control major morphologic phenotypes. By extension, we hypothesize that at least some canine behaviors will also be controlled by small numbers of genes that can be readily mapped.
This 15-year-old girl made an uninformed comment and if she continues liking pit bulls, it’s just a matter of time before she gets one of her own and another pet, person or livestock animal ends up badly mutilated or dead.
This attack was excellent pit behavior.
This is why all UK and USA pitmen use pits, not Keeshonden or Collies.
and how many shih Tzu’s have attacked, mutilated, maimed and killed people and pets.?
Pit-bull Rescue Central, the leading authority of pit bull types admits MOST pit-bull types are not safe around other dogs. For that reason alone is why I do not consider them safe family pets for our neighborhoods. These are powerful animals that break away from their guardians all the time and maul & kill another beloved pet or person in front of a child or person. This is a typical pit attack on another beloved pet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZTiGWgQubA Children & adults have watched their beloved pets be mauled to death by pit bulls. Many develop Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder after watching a horrific pit attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFb-hGWZqg Breaking-up pit attacks is dangerous 1/3 end up attacking the person that’s breaking up the fight.https://dogbitelaw.com/dangerous-vicious-dogs/a-propensity-to-attack-other-dogs-means-a-dog-is-dangerous-to-people.html
According to Pit Bull Rescue Central, “It is a FACT that our pit bulls, AmStaffs and pit mixes come with a built-in fighting heritage.It doesn’t matter where we get them from, whether it be the pound, a stray we pick up, or a puppy we buy from a breeder. The majority of pit bulls will, at some point in their lives, exhibit some degree of dog-on-dog aggression. This type of animal aggression is completely separate from human-aggression; a well-socialized pit bull is very good-natured with people.Yet, chances are that a “normal” pit bull will not share his affection with other animals.We cannot predict when or where it will happen and we can’t love, train or socialize it out ofthe dog. Pit bulls may not start fights, but they will finish them.” https://www.pbrc.net/misc/PBRC_dogpark.pdf”
The Pit Bull Rescue Central recommends ALL pit guardians to have a break stick. FOR ME THIS IS ANOTHER RED FLAG! Does not sound like a safe family pet if you need a breakstick on hand. “Since pit bulls have a strong fighting background, we recommend that pet owners also have a breaking stick as a precaution, even if they don’t plan to use it in an illegal context. However, please be discreet. Breaking sticks are not something to brag about and the general pubic might have the wrong impression if you walk around with a stick in your hand. Breaking sticks are not illegal, but they are considered dog fighting paraphernalia in certain states and/or with certain law enforcement agents.” https://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html This person demonstrates how to use a break stick on a pit-bulls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfMVH4wY5Pg
I appreciate that Pit bull Rescue Central, is telling pit-bull guardians not to take their dog to off-leash parks but many pit guardians are still very ignorant to this recommendation. What is bewildering to me is that Pit Bull Rescue Central admits that other beloved dogs in the community are not safe around pit-bulls because of their genetic makeup but promotes them as a great family pet. For me this is a red flag that you are compromising public safety and the safety of our beloved pets in our communities. Of all the dog breeds, they are the all time number one killer of humans and other people’s beloved pets. If all these guardians would have picked a safer pet like a beagle instead of a pit, we would not even be having this conversation. What other type of dog has the ability to kill humans that would be mistaken for a pit bull type? These families know exactly what breed killed their loved one: https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php Then these pit-bull advocates are oblivious and offended why people do not want these dogs in the neighborhood. REALLY? Are you really that blind? Do I really have to spell it out for you? Many people in the neighborhood have beloved pets that they consider family members. They are concerned for their pet’s safety and they do not want their dog to get mauled to death. Now people in the neighborhood who have pets have to live in fear if this powerful pitbull will get away from the guardian and hurt or kill their beloved pet. Almost all dog guardians have experienced a mishap where their dog gets away from them by mistake.
Many pit-bull breeders who are breeding for human aggression to create guard dogs. Most pit-bulls types come primarily from unethical backyard breeders who are trying to breed aggression, not good temperaments. Often, their dogs are the product of reject pits purchased from dog fighters as cheap stock. So with the pool of pit bulls we have, you cannot tell the difference between a cold one and one that might snap. (unprovoked aggression). So basically people who have pits are playing Russian Roulette against our communities. Here is a clip of unethical pit-bull breeders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZOj9o6jpE
Not all cigarettes killed people, but they’re ban in almost all public places now. Not all sliding railing baby cribs killed babies, govt ban them anyway. Not all ford pintos exploded, govt ban them. Not all lawn darts hit people in the head but govt ban them. Just because not every pit bull kills someone does not mean pit bulls are safe. Dozens of people have been killed by pit bulls in the US already in 2014. I know many people love pit bulls, but that’s too many deaths, and sometimes bans save us from ourselves. But don’t worry, there are hundreds of other dog breeds to chose from that do not kill dozens of people a year, so everyone will still be able to have a dog to love.
Pit-bull Rescue Central, the leading authority of pit bull types admits MOST pit-bull types are not safe around other dogs. For that reason alone is why I do not consider them safe family pets for our neighborhoods. These are powerful animals that break away from their guardians all the time and maul & kill another beloved pet or person in front of a child or person. This is a typical pit attack on another beloved pet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZTiGWgQubA Children & adults have watched their beloved pets be mauled to death by pit bulls. Many develop Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder after watching a horrific pit attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFb-hGWZqg Breaking-up pit attacks is dangerous 1/3 end up attacking the person that’s breaking up the fight.https://dogbitelaw.com/dangerous-vicious-dogs/a-propensity-to-attack-other-dogs-means-a-dog-is-dangerous-to-people.html
According to Pit Bull Rescue Central, “It is a FACT that our pit bulls, AmStaffs and pit mixes come with a built-in fighting heritage.It doesn’t matter where we get them from, whether it be the pound, a stray we pick up, or a puppy we buy from a breeder. The majority of pit bulls will, at some point in their lives, exhibit some degree of dog-on-dog aggression. This type of animal aggression is completely separate from human-aggression; a well-socialized pit bull is very good-natured with people.Yet, chances are that a “normal” pit bull will not share his affection with other animals.We cannot predict when or where it will happen and we can’t love, train or socialize it out ofthe dog. Pit bulls may not start fights, but they will finish them.” https://www.pbrc.net/misc/PBRC_dogpark.pdf”
The Pit Bull Rescue Central recommends ALL pit guardians to have a break stick. FOR ME THIS IS ANOTHER RED FLAG! Does not sound like a safe family pet if you need a breakstick on hand. “Since pit bulls have a strong fighting background, we recommend that pet owners also have a breaking stick as a precaution, even if they don’t plan to use it in an illegal context. However, please be discreet. Breaking sticks are not something to brag about and the general pubic might have the wrong impression if you walk around with a stick in your hand. Breaking sticks are not illegal, but they are considered dog fighting paraphernalia in certain states and/or with certain law enforcement agents.” https://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html This person demonstrates how to use a break stick on a pit-bulls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfMVH4wY5Pg
I appreciate that Pit bull Rescue Central, is telling pit-bull guardians not to take their dog to off-leash parks but many pit guardians are still very ignorant to this recommendation. What is bewildering to me is that Pit Bull Rescue Central admits that other beloved dogs in the community are not safe around pit-bulls because of their genetic makeup but promotes them as a great family pet. For me this is a red flag that you are compromising public safety and the safety of our beloved pets in our communities. Of all the dog breeds, they are the all time number one killer of humans and other people’s beloved pets. If all these guardians would have picked a safer pet like a beagle instead of a pit, we would not even be having this conversation. What other type of dog has the ability to kill humans that would be mistaken for a pit bull type? These families know exactly what breed killed their loved one: https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php Then these pit-bull advocates are oblivious and offended why people do not want these dogs in the neighborhood. REALLY? Are you really that blind? Do I really have to spell it out for you? Many people in the neighborhood have beloved pets that they consider family members. They are concerned for their pet’s safety and they do not want their dog to get mauled to death. Now people in the neighborhood who have pets have to live in fear if this powerful pitbull will get away from the guardian and hurt or kill their beloved pet. Almost all dog guardians have experienced a mishap where their dog gets away from them by mistake.
Many pit-bull breeders who are breeding for human aggression to create guard dogs. Most pit-bulls types come primarily from unethical backyard breeders who are trying to breed aggression, not good temperaments. Often, their dogs are the product of reject pits purchased from dog fighters as cheap stock. So with the pool of pit bulls we have, you cannot tell the difference between a cold one and one that might snap. (unprovoked aggression). So basically people who have pits are playing Russian Roulette against our communities. Here is a clip of unethical pit-bull breeders. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiZOj9o6jpE
Not all cigarettes killed people, but they’re ban in almost all public places now. Not all sliding railing baby cribs killed babies, govt ban them anyway. Not all ford pintos exploded, govt ban them. Not all lawn darts hit people in the head but govt ban them. Just because not every pit bull kills someone does not mean pit bulls are safe. Dozens of people have been killed by pit bulls in the US already in 2014. I know many people love pit bulls, but that’s too many deaths, and sometimes bans save us from ourselves. But don’t worry, there are hundreds of other dog breeds to chose from that do not kill dozens of people a year, so everyone will still be able to have a dog to love.
Your comment, “I appreciate that Pit bull Rescue Central, is telling pit-bull guardians not to take their dog to off-leash parks but many pit guardians are still very ignorant to this recommendation.”
That’s because pit bull advocates enjoy the drama, conflict, and violence pit bulls create. Naturally they will bring their pit dogs to the dog park to create the drama themselves. Then gawk while their pit dog tears someone’s pet apart. Or run, many times they run off.
I don’t like to stereotype, and we shouldn’t ‘judge a book by its cover’ , BUT an very high percentage of people I see with Pits, Akitas, Rotties, etc., are the type of people I wouldn’t want to meet in a dark alley, even if they didn’t have the dog with them…..
Pure breed dogs are all about creating a stereotype.
And just look at that “little wiggle butt’s” tail wagging like crazy at the end! They’re so happy when they get to do what they were created to do!
Do you have the same feeling when you see a family pet with short hair taken from a loving family and killed because you deemed it ugly? Do you get all warm and tingly inside?
They are ugly with their big block heads disproportionate to their bodies, their beady little demonic soulless eyes, and their big creepy Joker grins. I don’t really give a rat’s a– about a dog that’s been bred for violence being removed from a home with children. Their parents should have had more sense in the first place than to expose them to the risk. It is sad they have to pay for their parent’s lack of concern for their safety, but they will get over it (unlike being mauled by it) – just like my children did when our dog died (of natural causes), just like countless children have when their parent’s send the family dog to “live on a farm”, or even the children who have to witness their beloved pets being ripped to shreds by one of these mutants. The long-term safety of these children (and their neighbors, friends, relatives, and neighborhood pets) is more important than the short term sadness they will experience losing their dog. Shame on their parents for deliberately putting them in that position.
“They are ugly with their big block heads disproportionate to their bodies, their beady little demonic soulless eyes, and their big creepy Joker grins.”
Well….no one is trying to ban you family for having these traits, why do you hate so much?
Dealing in absolutes is not a good place to be in a world filled with grays.
A better question is why you love a violent and vicious breed so much!
I don’t. I love dogs.
I love dogs(animals) and thousands (approx 45,000) of them are killed each year by these ghetto hounds. I love *real* dogs, not mutant savages.
One simple question, has there ever been a good dog that was a pit bull? Division and fear, hatred and ignorance, again, are not good traits to display. The world is not black and white and the sooner you realize that the better off you will be.
They’re all good – until they’re not. When they’re done being “not”, they’ll be right back to being good. I’m sure the ghetto hound in the video above was a “good dog” and probably had been walked hundreds, if not thousands of times without incident. After he tried to kill an innocent normal dog, you can see his tail wagging enthusiastically and I’m sure on the walk back home, he was a “good dog” again. But he was born a purpose-bred killing machine; it can’t help itself. And the narcissist owners knew this but they didn’t care – pit bull owners never do. Owning a dog bred for violence and making a statement is much more important than the safety of other people and pets! It’s a risk they are always willing to take because it doesn’t effect them.
And those that never “turn”….should they be rounded up and killed too comrade? Your opinion on their genetic tendency is just that, an opinion with no scientific evidence whatsoever.
You are wrong, either by ignorance or by choice. I know it’s a big scary world, but keep your fears out of my laws please. You’ll grow up one day and then you might be able to hold a discussion without returning to your core of fear and hatred.
Owners of those dogs should be given a reasonable amount of time (90 days) to either rehome the thing or move outside of the limits of the municipality. Until that time, they should be registered and microchipped with the owner’s information, altered, required to wear a muzzle anytime they are off of the owner’s property, no one under 18 allowed to walk them, a visible warning sign on the property, liability insurance required, etc. At the end of that grace period, if they are still in the town limits, then yes. Anyone willing to have the dog’s fangs removed could be allowed to keep it.
Your comment, “Anyone willing to have the dog’s fangs removed could be allowed to keep it.”
That would disable the pit bull owner’s favorite feature of the dog.
Go for it. Move out to Aurora and pass your ridiculous “law”.
Until you have the integrity to do that, you are full of hot air and hate.
I hope the universe brings all that you spew right back to you, you deserve it.
“I hope the universe brings all that you spew right back to you, you deserve it.”
Likewise, pitwit, likewise. Only when your “pittie” attacks and tries to kill you, or a family member or friend, will you see these land sharks for the monsters they are.
YES, they should be rounded up and killed because no one knows when a pit bull or pit-mix will “go pit” and try to kill someone!
We are all good drivers, until we are not. We are all good gun owners, until we are not. We are all caring, until we are not.
Punishing people and their pets for what “might” happen harkens back to a by-gone-era we are all happy to see go.
I would like to know what you mean by “ghetto”.
Do you believe all pit bull owners look a certain way?
Scary, scary stuff Karen.
Because he’s brainwashed like the rest of the freaks cause head hancho of shitbull propaganda jane berkey uses 2.8 million of her inheritance on perpetuating the lies.one of her former colleague blabbed about her having bestiality issues with pits and its true her former husband helped to try and treat her to no avail and ended up divorcing her and she never remarried or dated anyone til this day ! She lives eats n sleeps shitbulls
Yep, attack and destroy, go for the throat, destroy me……you tend to display the very traits you claim to see in these dogs. Does it feel good to hate? Does your priapism act up when you see an innocent dog taken from a loving family.
You are a hypocrite, a bigot and a loser. I blame your mom.
Your the loser and as for my mom she is the best never would she ever put danger in are home her kids always came first !! You are a horrible parent I pity your kids you put danger above love there’s no excuse..your disgusting and I hope when your demons turn its on you and not your kids scumbag
Every time there’s a photo of one of these misshapen cantelope-headed things on a Facebook page people are like: “OMG He’s beautiful!”
Golden retrievers are beautiful. Dogs with head that look like they were used for a butcher’s block are not.
I do enjoy immensely and knowing that shitbull won’t be able to ever maul anyone or other animals again..only a lowlife mother n father would have this evil rotten dangerous breed around their kids
Raising my children in a home with love will allow them to be your children’s bosses and leaders as they continue your chain of hatred and fear. Better close the shades, someone is walking a dog…be afraid.
I’m not afraid at all I’m armed a shitbull come near or my family or my dog I will make deli meat out of it and enjoy doing so! It is you nuts that should fear me
Fear and Hatred is no way to go through life.
Education and Understanding are the only solution to dangerous dogs.
Funds need to go towards educating those in need of it, and ending animal abuse, regardless of breed.
Chasing a boogey man and prohibition never has and never will work.
YES on 2D for a safer and more efficient Aurora.
We are educated and understand perfectly the fear stems from psychos such as yourselves with these undogs whom you put the public in danger from not educating yourselves n facing the facts about this breed
No I am rubber and you are glue….
I think you and some of your group need to look in the mirror before you start accusing people of psychotic behavior.
You have an irrational fear of something and no problem bullying and attacking anyone who disagrees with you.
The tendency to group anyone or anything together based on a negative perception regardless of actual actions and behaviors is a sure sign of a “loose grip on reality.”
It is not irrational fear its called facts n data. Step off of fantasy island before someone in your family gets hurt ignorant moron!! The only grip around here will be your demons gripping you or your family hopefully it will be you since you brought evil in your home
Carli, YOU are the one who needs educating. I applaud this young woman for understanding that this is NOT typical of the pit bull breed. Pit bulls have been bred to fight, yes, but they were also well known as “nanny dogs” who watched over the children in the family. Blame the idiots who force this beautiful, loving breed to fight, and do your research (and actually meet some pits) before you judge. Start with the dogs that were rescued from Michael Vick’s kennel – some of those dogs went on to become therapy dogs! Shame on you!
“Not typical of the pit bull breed?”
Are you kidding me? Nothing could be more “typical” for this breed than attacking another animal unprovoked and refusing to let go despite being physically assaulted by onlookers.
Pit bulls were and are bred specifically to attack and kill dogs and other large animals in blood sports such as pit fighting, hog hunting, and bull bailing (hence the name “pit bull”). This is undisputed, well-documented fact.
Pit bulls continue to be unrivaled as THE breed of choice for all levels of dogfighting including professional high-stakes fights where bets of many thousands of dollars ride on the outcome. The message is clear: any breed can bite, but when you have to count on a dog to brutalize and devastate its opponent, it’s pit bull or go home.
Countless pit bull organizations quietly recommend a tool called a “break stick” to ALL pit bull owners. A break stick is quite literally a tool used to pry a dog’s jaws open when it won’t let go. Pit bulls are the only breed that need these special jaw-prying tools. https://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html
Even a casual search clearly demonstrates that pit bulls inflict the vast majority of severe and deadly dog attacks on other pets (and peer-reviewed studies have found the same). I challenge you to gather reliable press accounts of dog-on-dog attacks over any given time period and prove that this ISN’T the case.
You can’t.
Yes I’m sure if pit bulls were dangerous we would’ve heard about it by now. *eye rolls*
Blah blah blah. Of course the ‘casual’ search will bring up attacks by pit bulls, but only if you know what search criteria to use
You don’t need to look far, trust me.
Use a database like LexisNexis (or even a Google News search for dog attack keywords) to gather all dog-on-dog attacks within any time period of your choice, and tell me what percentage of them involve pit bulls.
Actually, someone already did this: “Pit bulls appear to have inflicted not less than 95% of the total fatal
attacks on other animals.” https://www.animals24-7.org/2014/03/22/how-many-other-animals-did-pit-bulls-kill-last-year/
And if that’s not good enough for you, how about a peer-reviewed study or two?
“It is remarkable that five out of eight fights which led to the death of the victim involved the clearly over-represented group of fighting dogs. Three lethal injuries were caused by American Staffordshire Terriers, one death was caused by a Bull Terrier, and another dog died after a fight with a Pit Bull Terrier.” https://www.azs.no/artikler/art_agressive.pdf
“In attacks where guide dogs were injured, dogs belonging to bull breeds were the most common aggressors (41.5 per cent)…Most injuries to people occurred in attacks involving an aggressor belonging to a bull breed (52.6 per cent).” https://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/166/25/778.abstract
Yes, if you use the words “dog attack” or “mauled” or “pit bull”
you’ll easily find attacks by pit bulls. Meanwhile, if you google “poodle,” “Chihuahua” or beagle” or any other breed of dog, guess what – the top stories you’ll find, every single day, is about a member of those breeds being attacked by a pit bull.
They aren’t called nanny bulls.
Pit bulls were never known as “nanny dogs.” This myth has been regurgitated thousands of times but never once substantiated. In over four decades since this myth was invented, NO ONE has produced even one single historic source that refers to pit bulls as nanny dogs.
As for the Michael Vick dogs, two of them killed another dog at the sanctuary where they’re housed: https://exfriender.wordpress.com/2010/10/12/safety-bfas-responds/
I’m greatly amused that even your best examples have murder raps.
Wow this is by far the stupidest comment on here… EVERY PIECE OF HISTORY on this dog from centuries ago points to it being bread for protections of families and live stock… And the dogs were routinely used to watch/protect (Nanny) young children while the parents hunted and sought food… Fighting in this breed is less than 100 years old… please get your “Facts” and “History” correct before you make false claims…
Never such thing as a “nanny dog”. It’s pit bull propaganda that began in the 1970s because even back then, pit bulls were attacking and killing.
Actually, every piece of genuine history points undeniably to pit bulls being created specifically for blood sports. I’m talking about actual history — the work of historians along with primary (original) historic sources, not the revisionist “farm dogs” hoohah. Even the breed registries admit that pit bulls were created and popularized for dogfighting. What do you think “pit bull” is in reference to? PIT fighting and BULL baiting, perhaps?
This is quite simple. Show me even one genuine historic (original) source that refers to pit bulls as “nanny dogs” or customary caretakers of children. I’m not talking about the scurrilous blather the likes of love-a-pitty-bully-wully.org. I’m talking about a genuine, pre-1970s book, pamphlet, poem, song, limerick — or hell, I’ll even take a picture postcard — that refers to pit bulls as nanny dogs. Let’s go.
Exactly *when* were they *supposed* to have been these so-called nanny and farm dogs? On this site, you will find scans of archived newspaper articles dating as far back as the early 1800s – I’m not seeing anything about nannys or farms!
https://americasdog.blogspot.com/
https://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/search/label/farm%20dog
Fighting in the breed is less than 100 years old? ROTFL – you guys really come up with some whoppers!
Your “nanny” dog claim proves you’re even more clueless than I had imagined. No dog was ever “routinely used to watch/protect … young children.” Even the pitwit organization BAD RAP has admitted this ridiculous claim was nothing more than a myth and in the past, people kept their children away from dogs as much as possible. Farmers/ranchers who raised livestock never used pit bulls because the demon dogs cannot be “called off” and instead of “driving” or “rounding up” animals, they would attack and tear them to pieces. Where on earth do you get such insane ideas?
No you get your facts straight (fairy tale more like it) call bad rap whom are your bibles and they will tell you that they no longer are supporting the nanny myth! ! Please put a gun in your mouth n pull and rid us of your waste of space on earth
Craven Desires – MONDAY, MAY 27, 2013
BADRAP surrenders to facts
“A lie can run around the world six times while the truth is still trying to put on its pants.” ~Mark Twain
on May 20 @ 9:00am PST, BADRAP made the following proclamation:
It’s Dog Bite Prevention Week. Did you know that there was never such thing as a ‘Nanny’s Dog’? This term was a recent invention created to describe the myriad of vintage photos of children enjoying their family pit bulls. While the intention behind the term was innocent, using it may mislead parents into being careless with their children around their family dog – A recipe for dog bites!
INNOCENT? the phrase ‘Nanny Dog’ was never used innocently. it was a very deliberate, very deceptive campaign to manipulate people into accepting a FIGHTING bred dog into the community.
Yea, right…like Craven is a reputable source…bawhahahahah
Name something they lied about? If your gonna sayvthey aren’t reputable then provide proof facts to back up your disbelief? I betyou can’t !! Your scumbags that can’t back up crap and the people that do well they lie
If I could understand your mumbo-jumbo, maybe I could respond.
Nope…bottom line is that it is up to you to provide the sources, especially if you want to be believed. Everyone knows that Craven is full of crapola.
Just in the past few days a pit bull in North Carolina scalped an elderly woman (who later died), disemboweled a 5-year-old in Utah, attacked an almost killed a 5-year-old girl in Florida, and killed or mutilated dozens of livestock animals and pets — and for every pit bull attack on livestock or pets that is reported, there are a least a dozen more than aren’t.
“… they were also known as ‘nanny dogs ….”
No dogs, neither pit bulls, nor any other breed, was EVER known as “nanny dogs!” This nonsense can be traced to a 1971 article in the New York Times, was nothing more than an offhand quote by the president of an American Staffordshire terrier and was never intended to be taken seriously. Even the pitwit organization BAD RAP has finally admitted the “nanny dog” foolishness was nothing more than a myth. If you’re so certain of the “nanny dog” malarkey, please provide a a book, magazine or newspaper article that referenced the nanny dog nonsense prior to the 1971 article. Furthermore, people in the past kept their children away from dogs as much as possible and would never have left them in the care of a dog!
Additionally, if you knew anything at all about dog-fighting, you would know that pit bulls used for the purpose of fighting other pit bulls are much less likely to attack and try to kill humans than those that have been raised as house pets! I challenge you to cite even one human killed by a pit bull this year who was killed by a fighting dog. The majority of pit bulls that kill are “family” pets.
And you making up words certainly gives your credibility, now doesn’t it?
I haven’t “made up” any “words,” Cujo!
I “like” the “way” that you use parenthesis for “whatever” reason that you chose to use “them” in your “response.”
Hey scumbag prove it or shut up and get off this site better yet go commit suicide
That is a real mature response. Idiot.
You first…we will call it a dare
You first, my friend. And let’s see all of the sheeple follow you.
How’d you like the outcome in the Aurora election regarding repealing the pit bull ban, Cujo?
And can you tell me what you making up words has to do with the voting process?
I didn’t. But that doesn’t mean that it won’t ever be repealed. Give it time, calgarth, give it time.
Dude, this is only the beginning
I kinda think I wouldn’t let a pit bull nanny my kids.
pit bull “nanny dog” is a myth, a lie.
The good news is that I have noticed less pit advocates regurgitating the nanny myth. It’s was started by a pit bull breeder as an advertising gimmick in the 70’s to sell more pit bulls. Where have you been? Stop spreading misinformation: UPDATE 5/21/13: Two years and nine months after the Nanny Dog Myth Revealed was first published, BAD RAP, a major pit bull advocacy group publicly announced that it will no longer support the Nanny Dog myth because it endangers children. While it is too late for many children, hopefully many will be saved in the future. Thank you, BAD RAP
https://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2010/08/nanny-dog-myth-revealed.html
From Bad Rap: Did you know that there was never such thing as a ‘Nanny’s Dog’? This term was a recent invention created to describe the myriad of vintage photos of children enjoying their family pit bulls. While the intention behind the term was innocent, using it may mislead parents into being careless with their children around their family dog – A recipe for dog bites!https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/10151460774472399
Shame on you! Bad rap already admitted to the nanny lie they are no longer supporting the myth moron! Go on and call them since your education is based onthem ! They watched over children alright sent 300 and counting to the cemetery you piece of crap !! I hope you get mauled in the worst way by one cause only then you will see the light skank
First and foremost, I am deeply sorry for the loss of your dog. It is a tragedy that could have been avoided.
I would also like to commend you for the mature response not to blame all dogs for the actions of one.
Prohibition, be it alcohol, marijuana, guns, or breeds of dog has never, and will never work. It merely forces those who are responsible to hide in the shadows, while providing no real deterrent to those who have no real care for the law or public safety anyways.
The focus needs to be on irresponsible dogs owners, drivers, drinkers, gun owners, etc. while leaving the typical responsible citizen alone to live life free of blame for the actions of others.
Pit bulls were bred for over a century to kill other dogs. Pit bull ownership is as responsible as giving an alcoholic a gas card and keys to a 400hp sports car.
President Reagan signed a law that incentivized states with a lower legal drinking age to go up to 21. Between 1982 and 2007, the rate of alcohol-related traffic fatalities for people ages 18 to 20 dropped 60 percent, whereas the rate for people ages 21 to 24 dropped only 44 percent.
Laws targeting dangerous behavior work. Are there still alcohol releated traffic deaths? Of course, but thanks to the stricter laws there are a lot fewer.
It’s a shock response. She’s very likely a nice girl who loves dogs and has a typical youthful idealism. And she’s 15, so she is not aware that this level of dog violence is a new problem. 15 years ago, when she was born, the Diane Whipple case in San Francisco made worldwide headlines because 2 giant pit bulls (Presa Canarios) killed a woman at her own front door. The details – the extreme violence of the dogs, the way the victim was stripped by their mauling, the callousness and asocial behavior of the pit owners – were new then, and newsworthy. Today, they’d be another blip on the radar.
The pit owners in that case were prosecuted at who knows how much cost to the community, and their punishment could never fit their crime. If an action is inherently extremely dangerous, it should be regulated by the society which, if the action goes very wrong, will have to pay for the effects. This is the reason we have traffic laws, gun laws, etc.
I dont doubt this young girl was attacked by a dog… but if the Sentinel is writing about it… the breed of dog is most likely a Lab or Mix and the paper is just trying to cash in and stay as far away from fact as possible.
Multiple witnesses identified the dog as a pit bull.
The owner (and we all know Moore IS the owner) did not deny the dog was a pit bull.
Allow pit bulls into your neighborhood and there will only be more of this, pit bulls attacking and killing pets and people.
Well making them illegal is obviously not working. I was born, raised, still live in and am raising children in Aurora.
1 in 5 dogs I see falls into the “pit bull” group.
Chasing a boogey man and prohibitions never has and never will work.
YES on 2D for a safer and more efficient Aurora.
20% of dogs are pit bulls? Really?
A nationwide study conducted five years ago found that pit bulls, pit bull mixes, and “short haired muscular dogs” (a group which could include boxers, dobermans, foxhounds, pointers, etc.) altogether were just 6.9 percent of the dog population.
Unless you can demonstrate that pit bulls are between 50-90 percent of the dog population, the data is clear: pit bulls maim and kill humans and animals all out of proportion to their population.
From what I’ve read the most reasonable percentage is at most 7% of the population for pit bull dogs. He claims “1 in 5” which is ludicrous unless he lives next to a dog fighting ring.
Obviously none of you live in Aurora. According to your own words, the sight test is good enough. Yes, when the DNA tests are run on dogs that are hauled in they do not fall into the ludicrous ban the vast majority of the time. THANK YOU AURORA ADVOCATES FOR FORCING THE COUNCIL TO ADOPT THIS PRACTICE THAT HAS SAVED MANY, MANY DOGS. But yes, as a lifelong citizen of Aurora I have seen tens of thousands of dogs, and about 1 in 5 falls into the visual character tics category for “pit bulls.”
Instead of attacking my credibility and attacking me, why not attempt a decent conversation about the matter.
Unless you can demonstrate my lifelong observations are wrong than please give me the respect of a Aurora Native who is involved with the city that is question.
Only extremist deal in absolutes. Please try to bring your conversation to a tone that demonstrates we are all passionate, but with differing views.
Name-calling and the inability to consider a differing view point do not demonstrate the qualities you profess to have.
Happy Election Day, may fairness. justice and integrity prevail.
Its evident from your drivel you have no integrity!!
Yes, quite evident. Having a opinion that differs from yours is obviously a result of having no morals or integrity. Now why don’t you run along and call someone else names.
I have plenty morals and integrity it is you who lacks them ..what kind of lowlife would put this evil breed in a home with kids knowing thepossible danger ? No parent with common sense would perhaps santa will gift you these items this year
He has recreated the vicious circle of stupidity where he advocates for the pit bull dogs then claims “there is no such thing as a pit bull”. Hilarious.
Everyone need to ban your game-bred trash. They are not pets, they were bred for over a century to kill other dogs.
Repeating the same lie again and again does not make it true.
Especially when you are ignorant of the fact that there is no such dog as a “pit bull”.
Which breed of dog was bred to kill and destroy? Mastiffs, German Shepherds, Dobermans, Irish Wolf Hounds, Cane Corsos,……which ones?
The domestication of canines resulted in the reduction of “wild” traits. Any dog, regardless of breed can be brought up to have aggressive temperaments. Just as any breed, even “pit bulls” can be brought up in the most abusive, neglected environment and still show no signs of aggression. The whole nature v. nurture arguments may be a little complex for you to grasp though.
Your comment, “Especially when you are ignorant of the fact that there is no such dog as a “pit bull”.”
Enjoy your life of ignorance.
A “pit bull,” is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
So a mixed dog is not a breed. Thanks for missing my point in your own words.
“or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds”
A Boxer mixed with a Lab shows these traits.
Since the implementation of the genetic test Aurora has been WRONG more that 70% of the time. A measurement you could only hope to achieve. You seem to hover around 95% wrong. Only the use partial facts keeps you from hitting 100%.
No genetic test for pit bull. Sorry, you fail. Which breeds should be banned again?
You claim “there’s no such thing as a pit bull”, yet you’re here advocating for them. HUE HUE HUE
It’s like arguing with a child. All you are concerned about is being right.
I am advocating for common sense and laws based on facts.
Prohibition has never, and will never work.
Go take a nap. Cartoons will be on soon.
Your comment, “All you are concerned about is being right.”
I am right.
Spoken like a 7 year old.
I don’t have a dog in this fight (ha!) but Gabriel is right.
There’s something wrong with you, gouko. We’re talking about DOGS here, not human beings. If someone misidentifies a pit bull and it’s euthanized, it’s just a DOG and there are millions more where that one came from!
Same question, is every dog with these traits an evil mutant?
Is every dog you deemed ugly unworthy of life?
And BTW.. citing Denver’s law is not evidence of anything. It is not a definition, it is a municipal law. Would you like me to bring up a litany of municipal laws that are flat out wrong in the definitions and scope. Trust me, there are quite a few that you may be ignorant of Gabe.
Your comment, “Denver’s law is not evidence of anything”
HUE HUE HUE!
To afraid to answer? I figured as much…coward.
I am bored whoopin you. Keep on Hating…you are good at it.
What question grasshopper, what question? You claim “there’s no such thing as a pit bull”.
I show you the law yet you ignore it and claim it’s “not evidence”.
What do you want me to answer for you? What do you want me to answer for you about pit bull dogs, which in your mind do not exist.
Is every big dog with short hair unworthy of life.
I cannot say pit bull, because regardless of the law Denver put into the books, no such breed exists.
Do you only read the parts of my comments you want and ignore the rest? Do you know how to read? Are you missing recess for this?
Well, if we’re talking about “pit bulls”, which you claim does not exist, I have never said pit bulls, in general, should be destroyed. The ones who pose issues such as unsupervised pit bulls and ones that have proven to be aggressive absolutely should be put down.
The pit bull in this news article, when found, should be put down.
dude, what’s ridiculous is you talking about pit bulls without saying the word “pit bull”. HUE HUE HUE
So the ones that are not aggressive, what about them?
Do you not understand what absolute means. Can you not see that judging anything on appearance alone is ignorant.
Yes, any aggressive dog should be put down. Fine. Breed, genetics, etc are not a factor in dog aggressiveness. But yet you want to pretend it is.
You just said not all of these dogs are bad, yet you want to ban them all. F—— Stupid!!!!!! HUE. HUE HUE.
How utterly ridiculous! Of COURSE breed and genetics are factors in dog aggressiveness! WTF?! That has got to be one of the stupidest comments I’ve read today.
Wrong, wrong, wrong…unless you discount the views of virtually every major canine and veterinary organization. You have been misled by those with an agenda a fear and hate.
*Serious* credibility problem!
https://17barks.blogspot.com/2011/06/tale-of-two-breeds.html
Why do you think there are “guarding” breeds, “hunting breeds”, “herding breeds”, “companion breeds”, etc? Why do you think many breed parent organizations warn that their breed is NOT suitable for first time owners or young children or timid owners, etc.; that they are “aloof”, independent, one-person dogs, while other breeds tout theirs as affable, friendly and outgoing, great with children and strangers, etc. Jesus f-ing Christ! Dog breeds aren’t just different outfits a dog wears! The stupid on this one seriously burns!
Your comment, “every major canine and veterinary organization”
Unfortunately, those organizations are in the business of promoting pets, all pets. They are driven by the pet industry. Think of it as cigarette companies producing studies to prove cigarettes are safe. Yes, it has been done before. Now cigarettes are regulated and the initiator of many PSAs.
The same will happen with pit bulls.
He doesn’t understand working breed dog genetics and breed specific behaviors so in his mind, it’s not a factor.
He doesn’t understand what would make a pit bull leap off a balcony to kill another dog. BREED SPECIFIC BEHAVIOR, which he doesn’t understand and never will. He’s too ignorant to understand.
I think he’s on our side? Trying to make pit bull apologists look dumb.
He’s doing a great job.
Where are the rest of his pals?
Your comment, “Is every big dog with short hair unworthy of life.”
Personally, I don’t want to see every pit bull put down.
Your comment, “Yes, any aggressive dog should be put down.”
I don’t agree with you.
Your comment, “You just said not all of these dogs are bad, yet you want to ban them all. F—— Stupid!!!!!! HUE. HUE HUE.”
I never said ” not all of these dogs are bad”, I said the aggressive ones should be put down. There is also this behavior called impulsive aggression. Just because a pit bull is not overtly aggressive does not mean its safe.
Pit bulls have this thing called gameness. it’s part of what makes a pit bull a pit bull. that behavior coupled with a few other dog fighting behaviors makes the pit bull dangerous.
Absolutely genetics plays a factor in any working breed dog. Just the one you advocate for, the pit bull, has been bred for over a century to kill other dogs.
https://www.ukcdogs.com/Web.nsf/Breeds/Terrier/AmericanPitBullTerrier Also known as the American Staffordshire Terrier in the AKC records – the same dog can be (or even until fairly recently) registered in both organizations. No, not every big dog with short hair – only those whose purpose violence and killing or entertainment and sport.
Pit bulls sure do a lot of fund raising considering they don’t exist.
Yep, what the low level pit bull advocates don’t realize is that it’s all about money.
Pit bull advocates can find ways to make money from a tragedy.
Hey, I love dog fighting as much as you do but innocent kids are getting hurt.
There are millions of sharks in the sea that have never attacked a human being and there are times when sharks do not attack even when they have the opportunity. But only a fool would risk swimming in shark-infested waters simply because not all sharks attack humans. The same is true when it comes to pit bulls: only a fool would risk owning a pit bull simply because some pit bulls haven’t attacked and tried to kill someone yet.
As for a dog being “worthy of life,” dogs have no worth. If they did, the US wouldn’t euthanize thousands of them every day.
As for that “litany of municipal laws that are flat out wrong,” I can cite state laws that are “flat out wrong” beginning with those laws in some states forbidding breed-specific legislation!
Thanks for all your hard work and long suffering of these fools Gabriel Barros. I marvel at your perseverance. You’re informed, can cite cases (what, are you a legal beagle?), and just kick butt with these pit bulls circling you and circling you and jumping at your throat and biting at your back. They irritate the hec out of me.
Just some dog knowledge, logic, common sense, and a little luck. Add that I hate these pit bull advocate liars.
That’s what I hate the most about pit bull advocacy, the lies and half-truths.
Take your handling of gouko787 here. Once you demolished his ridiculous case with the same kind of best evidence and testimony that enabled Denver’s City Attorney to defend its right to protect its citizens through animal control, gouko787 melted like the wicked witch of the west, going down with his/her most ridiculous appeals imaginable: “Is every dog you deemed ugly unworthy of life?” criticizing you for citing Denver’s law (the embodiment of assimilated evidence). Stupid, biased, untruthful, should never be allowed to sit on a jury of his peers. Anyway, you encouraged me to get in there and take these trash dog people on. Their lying for me is outrageous, and only surpassed by their total disregard for the innocent lives of people and their pets that this killer-type dog is allowed to brutalize and violently end.
Your comment, “The domestication of canines resulted in the reduction of “wild” traits.”
Pit bulls were bred for over a century to kill other dogs. They are worse than “wild”, they are bred for dog aggression, impulsive aggression, and gameness.
If a pit bull becomes a “good pet”, it is in spite of being a pit bull, not because it is a pit bull.
This. That is exactly why the Huffington Post feels the need to celebrate every time a pit bull doesn’t attack someone.
“This photo of a pit bull laying on a couch will make you love pit bulls forever.”
Huh?
Your comment, “The whole nature v. nurture arguments may be a little complex for you to grasp though.”
Canine Behavioral Genetics: Pointing Out the Phenotypes and Herding up the Genes
An astonishing amount of behavioral variation is captured within the more than 350 breeds of dog recognized worldwide.
Inherent in observations of dog behavior is the notion that much of what is observed is BREED SPECIFIC AND WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAINING OR MOTIVATION. Thus, herding, pointing, tracking, hunting, and so forth are likely to be controlled, at least in part, at the genetic level. Recent studies in canine genetics suggest that small numbers of genes control major morphologic phenotypes. By extension, we hypothesize that at least some canine behaviors will also be controlled by small numbers of genes that can be readily mapped.
Right. Pit bulls were created to be “nanny dogs,” weren’t they, gouko? If you knew anything at all about pit bulls, or dogs, in general, you would know that dogs were never “wild,” they were created by man from wolves and to perform very specific tasks. It isn’t “wildness” that makes pit bulls vicious, genius. Wolves are wild and they don’t attack and kill purely for the satisfaction of killing, they kill only for food or out of fear. Pit bulls kill for the pleasure of killing because that is what they were bred to do.
You know, no judge in the Denver Pit Bull Ban case bought any of what you are saying because it’s incompetent pit drivel, masquerading as “evidence.” Give it up… you’re embarrassing yourself. Read some competent jurisprudence at: https://www.scribd.com/doc/7545019/One-City-s-Experience-Denver-Why-Pit-Bulls-are-More-Dangerous-and-Breed-Specific-Law-is-Justified
Sith Lords deal in extremes too.
It is, indeed, a happy election day with the pit bull ban being upheld, thereby resulting in “fairness.justice and integrity prevail[ing]. We are all better off.
Pitwits, unlike the rest of us, are unable to identify a pit bull when they see one.
Nothing safe about allowing a fighting breed dog responsible for so much violence and death into a city. Pit bulls were bred for over a century to kill other dogs.
Glad your not my mother!! Only lowlifes would put their kids in danger with this breed..the best mother would never take the slightest risk involving their beloved children over a breed that attacks on daily basis
That’s because, like most pitwits, you don’t know a pit bull when you see one.
How’d you like the outcome of the vote in Aurora? Two-thirds of voters cast their votes to keep the pit bull ban in place — just like the voters of Miami-Dade, Florida, did two years ago. So, you and the other pitwits, with your ridiculous ads, claims that it was all about the “owner,” and cries of “punish the deed, not the breed” accomplished absolutely NOTHING! The people of Aurora have spoken and they said NO TO PIT BULLS!
Typical of narcissistic pit bull owners – breaking the law, big surprise! Now that the people have spoken, maybe the city will be more diligent about enforcing the ban. I hope you get your mutant seized, it’s immediately euthanized, and you are ordered to pay a HUGE fine for their trouble! Maybe then you’ll learn the law applies to you as well.
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
Volume 21 Number 12 December 2006
Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors
Implications for Risk Assessment
“The analysis revealed that owners of HR (high risk) dogs had significantly more criminal convictions and traffic citations in all categories except crimes involving children.”
“Professionals such as child and adult protection investigators, law enforcement officers, pediatricians and medical practitioners, home visiting professionals, domestic violence investigators, and public health nurses may find it useful to be informed about the breed and specific behaviors of the dogs that share the environment with their clients. First, be aware that the dog breed, ESPECIALLY OWNING A PIT BULL, MAY BE A RISK MARKER.”
It’s bad enough this little dog died in this awful manner. If the ban is lifted, you willbe seeing more of this and, instead of dogs or pets, it will be children and elderly people. Check out google. See how frequent this is. Be smart, Aurorans. Keep the ban.
Fear and Hatred is no way to go through life.
Education and Understanding are the only solution to dangerous dogs.
Funds need to go towards educating those in need of it, and ending animal abuse, regardless of breed.
Chasing a boogey man and prohibitions never has and never will work.
YES on 2D for a safer and more efficient Aurora.
Education and understanding does NOT CHANGE irresponsible owners OR genetically inclined killers. Sorry.
Education DOES CHANGE irresponsible owners AND their neighbors.
Stating that a type of dog that looks a certain way is genetically inclined to kill DOES NOT make it true.
Only extremists deal in absolutes. Sorry you cannot have a respectful conversation without resorting to tactics of fear to make your point.
Why don’t you provide facts to back up your crap..fear is caused by shitbulls that kill every week and attack everday no other breeds with all of them combined have killed a quarter of the attacks that shitbulls do
My fact reside in the millions of so called pit bulls that live there lives with out incident. Yes, some dogs have bad temperaments, but breed is not a factor. The professional experts agree on that, but you discount there opinions as part of some vast conspiracy.
Name calling. Wow. I would expect nothing less from those who spend their days spreading hate and fear.
In fact, the experts who testified in the Denver Pit Bull Ban case, both in 1990 and again in 2005 when they sued the State of Colorado for interfering with their home rule, supported the ban. You’re a typical pit pushing liar. Denver’s ban is a model to other cities, and Aurora instituted its own ban when they became a dumping ground for the pit bulls (the serial killer of the dog world) that would have otherwise been in Denver. Aurora, tomorrow, if you repeal your ban, it’s back to dumping pits and pit-bull owners into your city. Have fun living with the carnage.
If a spaniel, beagle, Chihuahua, or whatever, has a “bad temperament,” a good, hard kick in the ribs can kill or disable the 4-legged demon for life. Kicking a pit bull is equivalent to kicking a tank. Even TASERS don’t always work on pit bulls. Just a few days ago, police TAZED an attacking pit bull twice and it didn’t faze the land shark.
Breed is a factor when its always this evil breed and no other..everyday there’s an attack or two somewhere and its usually a family dog that was treated well.I don’t need to spread hate n fear these undogs do a good job themselves
Pit bull advocacy has been blabbering on about “education” for decades. The “education” they provide is worthless.
“nanny dog”, “all in how you raise them”, “no such thing as a pit bull”, “all dogs are individuals”.
None of these address the pit bull problem. Now for just over 5 years there is a movement which honestly does educate people about pit bull dogs.
Looks like Aurora’s voting 2 to 1 to keep the ban. Y E S
You are clueless. The type people who own pit bulls have no more than a high school education, some of them can barely read and write and when it comes to educating dog owners, they couldn’t care less. Pit bulls aren’t “normal” dogs and the people who own them aren’t “normal” people.
YOU ARE SO RIGHT. Looks like Aurora is keeping their pit bull ban by a 2 to 1 margin. So happy about that.
Well, let’s revisit the ban in ten years and see if you can lift it then. In the meantime, the good people of Aurora have spoken. Resoundingly, they said they don’t want pit bulls in their city.
It can help you understand WHY pit bulls need banned.
A bullet is the best “solution to dangerous dogs.”
Laws that target vicious dogs and irresponsible owners regardless of breed are the best solution.
For someone who “abhors” violence you seem to be fascinated by it.
Now he wants laws that require chihuahuas to be treated like pit bulls — gouko787 if you can’t be educated, it’s not likely those of your ilk can. Really, you just want to hide your serial killer behind the tiniest dog known to man. What a coward.
I’m not fascinated by violence, but there’s no way in h*ll I’m going to tolerate vicious dogs and neither should anyone else.
A bullet?! You’re talking about SHOOTING a pit bull?!
Knives don’t need reloading and there is no waiting period.
Most of us already own guns, so we don’t have to wait to shoot pit bulls.
I’m afraid we’ll have to agree to disagree on the best way to put a pit bull six feet under.
Personally, I don’t want to get close enough to one of the frankenmaulers to stab it with a knife.
I don’t fear and hate. I don’t want to see kids torn apart again and again by these animals. Like the boy this week who had his intestines ripped out, or Emily Ruckle, who had her arm ripped off.
If you read about these time and time again and still want pit bulls in your neighborhood you’re insane. The boy who’s intestines were ripped out (and he lost an ear) had parents who loved rescuing down and out pit bulls that were deemed vicious.
They apparently cared more about pit bulls than the safety of their own 5 year old.
Gouko787 you haven’t responded to education about dogs bred to kill, that are doing what they were bred to do; and people seeking that sort of beast to masquerade as a “pet” while they get their jollies frightening everybody. You’re an evil person, totally unconcerned with the victims of pitbulls, including this little dog that was killed. It’s not even dogs’ lives you want to save, it’s killer dogs’ lives you want to save. Again, you’re evil.
I love you Aurora Sentinel! This undoes does the ad coloradogs made.
All they have to do is report what happened. The pit bull gets its “bad rap” all on its own.
Kinda like the bull crap that the DBO crowd tried to pull? Something about Daxton’s friends?
Coloradodogs were fraudulent in their ads, They used logos without permission from the AVMA, the CDC, and others in an attempt to show political support for their propaganda. Thats just wrong.
This is absolutely true. I contacted the CDC regarding Coloradogs using the CDC logo in their ad and this is the response I received from Francisco J. Candal, Patent Adviser, CDC Technology Transfer Office:
““Coloradogs” did not request our permission, so it appears that the logo was used without authorization.”
This kind of subterfuge is absolutely typical of the pit bull lobby.
Merrit Clifton, Craven Desires, Dogsbite.org, etc, – Mr. Pot please meet Mr. Kettle.
I remember a few months back coloradogs claim they were an all-breed rescue. I looked at their website and they were “adopting” out at least 70% pit bull dogs. They had pictures of pit bulls all over their website, very few of other breeds.
I believe now they are all pit bull all the time.
I also remember them saying they didn’t keep dogs in their rescue, or very few but they had a large list of “adoptable” pit bulls. They seemed more like a pit bull broker than anything else.
Attacking the messenger, not the message. An age old tactic.
The logo may or may not have been authorized, but the information was valid and eye opening.
The abuse of the CDC’s logo in a paid political ad is a classic example of pit bull lobbyists relying on deception because honesty doesn’t favor their viewpoint.
As for the message, it’s the same story. The ad was based on a single study that has never been independently verified or duplicated and in fact, runs completely in opposition to the findings of several peer-reviewed studies over three decades.
The study referenced in Coloradogs’ ad was authored by pit bull advocates. Four of the five authors are staff or associates of Animal Farm Foundation, whose mission statement is “securing equal treatment…for pit bull dogs.”
Starting to see a problem yet? No? There’s more.
The person in charge of assigning breed identities to dogs in that study was Amy Marder, a longtime associate of Animal Farm Foundation who has gone on the record to oppose pit bull regulations for several years, before, during, and after the study period. In other words, the study employed a person with an obvious bias and conflict of interest to help the authors obtain exactly the results they wanted. Nothing valid or “eye opening” there.
The photos used in the study have never been released nor independently analyzed. The study itself has never been duplicated and, as I said, runs completely contrary to the findings of MANY peer-reviewed studies which were not authored by authors with obvious bias.
I referenced several peer-reviewed studies all coming to the conclusion that pit bulls/bully breeds are involved in a disproportionate number of serious and deadly dog attacks. These are published, peer-reviewed studies and city records quoted from city officials. Unlike most of the material opposing restrictions on pit bulls, none of these originated from a source with obvious conflict of interest. By no means is this an exhaustive list, but it shows that the “equal treatment for pit bulls” viewpoint is not supported by a facts-based analysis:
“Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites.” https://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx
“When bite rates were determined by breed, Pit Bulls were 5 times more likely to bite than all other breeds combined.” https://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA381425&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
“More severe bites and injuries were observed in attacks from the pit-bull and Rottweiler breeds.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235708
“More than 30 different offending breeds were documented in the medical records. The most common breeds included pit bull terriers (50.9 percent), Rottweilers (8.9 percent), and mixed breeds of the two aforementioned breeds (6 percent).” https://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Abstract/2009/08000/Pediatric_Dog_Bite_Injuries__A_5_Year_Review_of.28.aspx
“A retrospective review was performed at two urban children’s hospitals from 1996-2005 of all dog attacks presenting to the plastic surgery service. Charts were reviewed with analysis of patient demographics, injury site, operative intervention, and dog-specific data…57% of dogs were deemed to be of a dangerous breed (Pit Bull or Rottweiler).” https://aaps1921.org/abstracts/2008/P13.cgi
“Significantly more pit bull injuries (94% vs 43%) were the consequence of unprovoked attacks.” https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/88/1/55.short
“Of the 199 US dog bite fatalities for which breed is known, pure breed pit bull and pit bull cross breeds were most frequently involved.” https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/7/4/321.short
“It is remarkable that five out of eight fights which led to the death of the victim involved the clearly over-represented group of fighting dogs. Three lethal injuries were caused by American Staffordshire Terriers, one death was caused by a Bull Terrier, and another dog died after a fight with a Pit Bull Terrier.” https://www.azs.no/artikler/art_agressive.pdf
“In attacks where guide dogs were injured, dogs belonging to bull breeds were the most common aggressors (41.5 per cent)…Most injuries to people occurred in attacks involving an aggressor belonging to a bull breed (52.6 per cent).” https://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/166/25/778.abstract
“During the one-year period between June 1986 and June 1987, 14 people were killed by dogs in the United States. Ten of those 14 deaths are attributed to pit bulls. Thus, 71% of the deaths during that period were attributed to a type of dog that accounts for 1% of the US dog population…Most breeds do not repeatedly bite their victims; however, a pit bull attack has been compared to a shark attack and often results in multiple bites and extensive soft tissue loss (3,10)…Pit bulls inflict more
serious bite wounds than do other breeds because they tend to attack the deep
muscles, hold on, and shake.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3238616
“This breed has an intensity and duration of attack not seen in other dogs. This leads to severe injuries and, in some cases, death of the victim (human or animal).” https://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/168/5/133.abstract
“Dog bite injury hospitalization (DBIH) rate in Winnipeg relative to Brandon (a city without BSL) was significantly lower after BSL in people of all ages…Conclusions: BSL may have resulted in a reduction of DBIH in Winnipeg, and appeared more effective in protecting those aged <20 years.”
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389
“OBJECTIVE: To analyse population-based data on hospitalisation caused by dog bite injuries after changes in legal regulations on dog ownership, including breed-specific regulations…RESULTS: There has been a significant decline in hospitalisation caused by injuries from dog bites.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20805621/?i=3
“City data obtained by the Star points to a different possibility: that pit bulls really were the most dangerous kind of dog, in Toronto at least. From 2001 to 2004, pit bulls were more likely to bite people and domestic animals than any other breed, the statistics show…Nearly a decade after the ban was put in place, its purpose appears to have been achieved: pit bull bites in the city have virtually disappeared.” https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/03/pit_bulls_were_torontos_biggest_biters_before_the_ban.html
“Since the ban has been in place, bites are down 73 percent from pit bulls,” said Cheryl Conway, a spokeswoman for the city’s animal care division. She added that the dogs placed a tremendous burden on city staff. According to city documents, before the ordinance was enacted in 2005, up to 70 percent of kennels in the Aurora Animal Shelter were occupied by pit bulls with pending court disposition dates or with no known owner. That number is now only 10 to 20 percent of kennels. “There hasn’t been a human mauling in many years. Complaints and requests related to pit bulls are down 50 percent. Euthanasia of pit bull dogs is down 93 percent.”
https://www.aurorasentinel.com/news/city-lawmakers-uphold-auroras-ban-pit-bulls/
“According to statistics taken from the Springfield-Greene County Health Department…for the three-year period beginning in 2004, there were 42 "vicious" animal attacks recorded in the jurisdiction covered. After passing the local ordinance banning or strictly controlling the ownership of pit bull or pit bull types, the number of attacks has dropped dramatically. For the five-year period from 2007-2011, there was a total of 14.” https://www.news-leader.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/03/25/sb-pull-pit-bull-protection-bill/6887605/
“Between 2009 and 2010, there were 233 reported incidents involving pit bull attacks against people and other dogs in Anne Arundel County. In that same time frame, the next closest breeds, German shepherds and Labrador retrievers, caused just 93 incidents combined. According to Lt. Glenn Shanahan of Anne Arundel County Animal Control, pit bull terriers lead all other breeds in the county by at least two to one when it comes to attacks over the last five years. “The numbers say what they say. We’re not making it up,” Shanahan said. “It’s demonstrably overwhelming.”
https://severnapark.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/pit-bull-incidents-outnumber-other-dog-attacks-2-to-1-2
In regards to the myth that visual identification of pit bulls is not possible or reliable, a DNA test study funded by the ASPCA [the only such study performed on pit bull-type dogs] showed that 96% of the 91 dogs visually categorized as pit bulls or pit bull mixes, when DNA tested for breed, were indeed pit bulls or pit bull mixes: https://aspcapro.org/blog/2013/09/25/bully-this%E2%80%94-results-are-in%E2%80%A6
please…just please spare the universe your crap. I wrote this well before I had any knowledge of who used whatever without permission from whoever.
Talk about propaganda! Geeze!!!!!
Untrue.No motives for deception, only care and love for human life. There is NOTHING more sacred.
Exactly. Maybe you should give that a second thought prior to stating such.
I call bull puckey!! The only thin that this supposed organisation has in its heart is a need for greed. Nothing more and nothing less.
BAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH
Pit bull advocates are okay with what happened to this girl’s dog.
“All dogs fight..” Is their most common reply. They don’t care because put bulls normally win fights. Not that this was even a fight. This was a massacre.
Yes – a large part of their propaganda is trying to “normalize” the extreme and unnatural behavior of pit bulls! They want to convince us that “all dogs” act this way but those of us old enough and with enough life experience with a wide variety of dogs, know this is utter b-s-!
Bigger cars, SUVs, and trucks do more damage when they are in an accident, should they be banned?
Pit bulls typically aren’t “bigger” – there are countless larger breeds that aren’t doing what pit bulls do daily! SUVs, trucks, and large cars serve a purpose, these kid killers do NOT (unless you’re a dog fighter).
No just scumbag parents such as yourselves and your mutants
Wow. You really are full of hate and bigotry.
Actually, bigger cars, and SUVs require higher insurance premiums as they do cause more damage than, lets say, a Honda Civic. So there is a penalty for owning such a vehicle.
This is why I never leave the house without my $100 extremely sharp knife when walking my safe breed !! I will filet one or make lunch meat out of one if it so muches comes sniffing!
Gabriel- What a stupid statement. Look up the definition of ignorant, then look in the mirror. I’m an advocate and I am not OK at all with this attack-at all. What have you done to help the family? What have you done to verify any information? We will help this family who lost their dog in this brutal attack. That has already begun. Where were you? If the attacking dog is a pit mix- so be it.
“Police reported that witnesses told them that the PIT BULL jumped from a second-floor balcony, but the small dog’s owner said she didn’t see the dog jump, just that it came at Baby.”
REALLY? Helping how? Are you bringing her dog back to life? Tracking down the pit so it can be euthanized before it kills again? Starting a YouCaring or Fundrazr page for the family to cremate their dog’s mangled body? Exactly what are you advocates doing?
Are you? I don’t advocate for pit bulls and this type of violence.
We are attempting to save human beings, livestock and pets from literally being torn to pieces by these vicious monsters. It doesn’t take money to bury a dog, all it takes is a shovel and if the family doesn’t own a shovel, I’m sure someone will allow them to borrow one.
Yes make them prove they care. Caring is not just what you say, it’s what you do.
Sara didn’t jefferey tell you he’s going over to the rainbow bridge and retrieving her dog back
If they could raise the dead, they’d be bringing back animals like the American Bulldogs that tore their owner’s arm off in the UK last month, the Vick pits that were euth’d for aggression, the 2 monster pits that mauled Diane Whipple, etc., etc.
It is 100% “about a breed” and you know it. No other breed of dog will go to the lengths to attack and kill another dog, or some other animal, or a human being. Just a few weeks ago, a pit bull actually jumped through a glass window to get at another dog. Can you cite a case of any other breed of dog jumping through a glass window in order to kill another dog?
What do you suggest a caring person do when a good pit bites a child’s head or grabs a small dog in its jaws?
Should she hold onto the victim or let that good pit shake it to death or run away with it?
I’ll believe that you actually care about victims, and about pits themselves, when you join us to require the sterilization of all pit/bullies.
Pits are victims as well of their man made defects to attack on neutral ground and not stop. Stop making more victims.
Oh really your going over to the rainbow bridge and getting her dog back?
Yeah, I thought so. Radio silence from the pit bull owner when any other breed of dog or owner is injured.
Why are you trying to exploit this tragedy? You are not a good person.
You are a lowlife putting your kids in danger with no room to talk !! Go check on the life insurance polices on your kids maybe you can up the amount more
Questioning my parenting will not have the affect you desire.
Unlike you, I have confidence.
When will you learn that saying something does not make it true?
The American Pit Bull Terrier (HISTORY OF FIGHTING DOGS Series) Paperback
by Joseph L. Colby
ISBN-13: 978-1846642562
Originally published in 1936, this book is extremely rare in its early editions. Hugely informative and in-depth, it is a complete treatise on the breed covering the entire field, with particular emphasis on dog-fighting.
You are merely an idiot if you believe facts can’t be twisted anyway. This ban is ridiculous, to say banning a breed type lowered the amount of bites for that breed is ignorant. If you ban anything obviously the stats are going to go down, very simple.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-toellner/aurora-colorado-breed-ban_b_6078432.html?utm_hp_ref=denver&ir=Denver
“If you ban anything obviously the stats are going to go down ….”
Well, Duh!
Like Handgun related deaths in Chicago that skyrocketed after the handgun ban… Ya that’s Sound logic…
Handgun-related deaths did not “skyrocket” after they were banned in Chicago. Furthermore, enforcing a ban on pit bulls is a LOT easier to enforce than a ban on handguns. Pit bulls are big, ugly loudmouthed dogs that are very difficult to hide, while a handgun can easily be concealed in a pocket.
Ah, are you stupid? Crime rates in chicago tripled in the years following their hand gun ban…. Now that they are finally allowing Concealed carry the crime rates are actually declining…
Oh, so now it’s “crime rates.” Before you said it was “handgun-related deaths.” Which is it? In another post, you claimed 5,000 kids drowned in the US last year, when the actual figure is not even close to 5,000.
I live in Florida, where many of us carry handguns legally. I oppose gun control because guns are inanimate objects that act only when a human being pulls the trigger. Guns do not “get loose,” run out the door and shoot someone of their own accord! Pit bulls are constantly “getting loose” and attacking someone walking down the street, or children playing in their yard, or suddenly, without warning or provocation, attacking a child in the family, or turning on their owner.
Hopefully one will be used on you that is if your shitbull doesn’t beat it to it
I live in Texas and I have two pit bull mixes. They didn’t get the memo they should be vicious. I feel bad for the girl who lost he dog. The dog had a strong prey drive. One of mine doesn’t like cats. I try my best to avoid putting him in that situation. They live with a Maltese. No issues there. They are great dogs.
Yes these shitbulls live with other animals well for quite some time till the day they don’t as have been reported! !
An animal shelter volunteer posted once that a small female pit bull coexisted fine with a pair of huge Rottweilers, then one morning, the two Rottweilers were dead, literally torn to pieces by the pit bull. It’s just a matter of time before your “pitties” enjoy a Maltese dinner!
“I like pit bulls,” she said. “It’s just the people who make them aggressive.”
What a ridiculous comment by someone whose dog was bitten and shaken to death to make. Even if she is only 15-years-old, she should have sense enough to know that dogs are purpose-bred animals created to perform very specific tasks. And, as anyone with any smarts at all knows, pit bulls were created to fight and kill other dogs. I suppose it’s true, every generation is dumber than the last.
It sounds like a riff on the old ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ trope.
If pit bulls were truly like a gun and “all in how you raise them”, the pit bull owner would be charged with felony animal cruelty as it was his pit bull dog who killed her small dog, but he won’t be charged with jack chit.
Ain’t that the truth.
And if “it’s the owners!!!” the pit bull advocates should be out there screaming for Justic for Baby and demanding Moore be charged with animal cruelty. But – crickets.
Pit bull advocates are okay with what happened to that small dog. They have no interest in fixing the pit bull problem.
Tragically true!
More like hand grenades
A hand grenade with the safety pin removed sitting on the coffee table.
Don’t be unkind. She’s a child, and at an age when it’s natural to be idealistic. And she’s in shock. If you’d asked me, the day after my dog was mauled by a pit bull, if they were bad dogs, I’d have automatically given you the “It’s the owners” speech too. It took time to assimilate the fact that this incredibly brutal, violent attack had happened.
Sometimes “unkindness” is the only thing that gets through.
Yes and you also have to realize these young people have been bombarded with propaganda from the pit bull advocacy movement since they were born! There are tv shows, ads, books, and they are even bringing these mutants into the schools to “educate” children about how great they are! I agree that at 15, she should know better but you don’t know what you don’t know – and she only knows what she’s been told without any life history or experience to counter the nonsense.
Are you kidding me I’d be devastated if I was 15 and this was my beloved dog !! She’s probably afraid she’ll loose pals that own them or be an outcast with them
Its scary any dumber I can’t imagine! She’s an uneducated idiot who probably has friends with these demon dogs who tell her the garbage she is reciting..don’t you know its cool to have a demon dog?
I can’t imagine owning a pit bull. They hate other dogs, prevent you from getting homeowners insurance, cause people to go out of their way to avoid you, make people assume your thug or criminal, have cinderblock heads and are dumb as posts.
Unless pit bulls can cook and do laundry, there’s no way it would be worth it.
The pit bull owner mentality is different. Pit bull owners truly enjoy the drama, conflict, and violence that comes with the pit bull fighting dog.
And lets not forget jane berkey and her sexual attraction to them
To hear the nutters tell it, they do!
What, what a lovely conversation of hate, ignorance and fear the three of you seem to have often.
Making assumptions about others is not a trait to be proud of and will cause you a lot of trouble.
Let me guess, it is OK for you to sound like a bunch of undereducated bullies because you are better than the rest of us, right. You have the world figured out and if we would all just listen to the three of you and you fear based facts we would all be better off?
Why don’t the three of you get a room….a nice dark, secure room, with no windows and doors so you will be safe and secure form all the evils packs of dogs that are roaming the streets and destroying the world.
Ever try not listening to your little lizard brain as it tells you to fear everyone and everything? Just curious?
There are over 200 breeds of dog, with a wide range of inherent traits and characteristics, from which one can choose a pet. There is not one single positive trait in a pit bull that can’t be found in DOZENS of other breeds, without the inherent risk to society. What kind of person deliberately chooses a breed created and purpose-bred for violence and killing with all these other choices? What kind of *parent* (using the term loosely) decides that from all these choices, they will choose the one purpose-bred for killing to bring home around their children? Normal people choose normal dogs! They don’t choose a dog to “make a statement” while exposing their loved (?) ones and neighbors to a high risk of a brutal attack. Normal people choose one of the other 200 plus breeds NOT bred specifically for unprovoked and sustained savagery!
My dog is more well behaved and less a danger to society than you Karen. What kind of person questions my parenting skills without any idea who I am or who my children are? An ignorant blowhard with no sense of morals. That is who. Let me guess, you are “normal” but anyone who disagrees with you is not. Why don’t you go hang out with Molly Markert, she seems to be right up your alley. I choose my dogs based on temperament, need and a general sense of connection.
What do you base your hate and ignorance on besides fear and the need to tell others how to live their lives.
Go back to talking with your echo chamber, you’ll sound a lot smarter around that crowd.
BTW … what kind of person tells people to be afraid of things based on looks? Good luck being a bigot, you’ll need it.
From over 200 dog breeds, you chose a breed whose sole purpose is killing and violence to bring around your *children*! I most certainly do question your parenting skills! Do you also drive around with them unrestrained? Do you drive your children around while intoxicated? Do you keep loaded guns around the house? Or do you just play Russian Roulette with their safety in regards to dogs? Do you “need” a purpose-bred fighting dog? Is a purpose-bred fighting dog breed that kills and maims more people, pets, livestock, and wildlife every year than all other breeds combined the only one you can “connect” with? It must be one of those two reasons because there are many, many other breeds with fabulous temperaments that haven’t killed *any* kids, much less dozens. Most caring parents would err on the side of caution when it comes to choosing a breed for the family pet, not throw caution to the wind and say “it’s worth the risk to my kids to have a purpose-bred blood sport dog”!
Karen there’s only one conclusion I think he took out huge life insurance policy on the kids that will pay off any day now! Then he can pretend he didn’t know n blame the advocates
Only a lowlife piece of crap would bring an unsafe undog home that attacks n kills daily not to mention banned from several prudent countries n hundreds of cities in the usa and u pick this out of hundreds of sound breeds? Makes me think you took out huge life insurance policy on your kids with that kind of loaded gun speaks volumes!
I was unaware you where the authority on parenting. Must skip a generation cause your parents did a poor job instilling respect, dignity, kindness and a curiosity for knowledge in you.
My parents are awesome they care for us and would never ever put such a danger in the family as you you do and nor would my brother or I ever take such a stupid dangerous risk with our childrens lives never..tell me if your animal foes what its bred to do and your kid is near death what will be going through your mind
Form follows function. The physical appearance of animals in general and dog breeds in particular, including the pit bulls, is not random. That wide mouth, those small eyes, the compact skin, muscular frame and athletic build are all a result of men selecting the best “fighting” dogs for hundreds of years. These features are all advantages to an animal created exclusively to kill.
This is not bigotry. It’s biology. It is not applicable to humans because humans, even in slavery, were never subjected to controlled breeding practices. I’m sure the intent was there sometimes, but practically speaking, an ape that bears solo young which take over a decade to mature sexually is not a likely subject for a breeding program. The physical appearance of human races and nations is largely random, compared to the artificially created breeds of domesticated animals.
No how about you uneducated riff raff dregs of society get an island and take all the demon dogs with you freaks and then the rest of the world can be at peace and rid of trash that pollutes our society
Nice. Your education is really failing you. My Master’s seems to be serving me and my family well.
Perhaps those who fear everything should isolate themselves from all the evils of the world.
I am at peace…if you shed some hate and fear you may one day achieve that too. Good luck.
Anymore names you want throw out there, any more attacks and mean spirited words from Mr. Peace-Love-Joy?
You are loosing this one man, know when to call it.
It’s “serving my family and me,” not “me and my family,” genius, and if you had a master’s (that’s lower case), you would know that!
I’m not losing anything you on the other hand will be…an smart people of aurora voted to keep the ban..little by little these monsters won’t have any place to reside except in hell where they belong! ! Btw three months ago a demon was loose and approached me n my little dog and I fileted him til he died even when he begged mercy n stopped I kept stabbing
Bloodlust from a mental patient. You mommy failed .
Hardly I refuse to be a victim or my dog!! I will never be a victim to this evil breed that you stupid ignorant dirtbags refuse to see the facts n danger and it hurts me to do that cause I’ve never ever harmed an animal leave my mom out of it she is the best and she was upset that I killed that demon but understands as well as the police that it was a danger and I had right to protect my dog n I
Funny to see a pit bull owner calling others “bullies” – your breed is by both name and behavior a bully. Like many physically muscular dogs, they bodyslam as a way of playing, and frequently escalate from play to violence without a clear signal anything changed. And of course, the insistence of pit bull owners that their bred-for-dog-aggression pets are FINE at dog parks, pet stores, pet fairs, etc., is a classic bully behavior – I’m bigger and more threatening, so I own this public space.
Have you seen the head hancho of it all jane berkey doesn’t any freakier than her..she is into bestiality with them n spends ruffly 2.8 million a year of her fathers inheritence on them..he’d be turning in his grave if he knew where his cash was going on her sexual sickness
The uneducated idiots in this thread are the reason our society is continuing in its downfall… Ban Idiot owners not an animal… Whats next to ban? I means cars let people drive drunk, they could run over 10 dogs at once, and take out a whole cross walk of children walking home from school…
Ban them both, I say!
If only we could!
Since it’s not possible to “ban” people, you’re basically saying “Yeah, let’s just accept the status quo of dogs and people being mauled to death whenever a pit bull gets out of control.” It’s a popular response by pit bull owners, but it’s morally vacant.
The only idiots are those who defend a breed that will kill them in a heartbeat.
And just how do you propose that we “ban idiot owners”? Human beings (and, yes, I realize pit bull owners barely qualify as human) but even they cannot be banned — unfortunately.
What a ridiculous comment. “Cars” do not “let people drive drunk.” People drive drunk of their own accord just as pit bulls attack and kill of their own accord.
2014 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
Updated after each fatality following fact finding research
34 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
by Breed:
25 by Pit Bull / Pit Bull Mix
3 by Bullmastiff / Mastiff Mix
3 by Rottweiler
1 by Cane Corso
1 by Shepherd Mix…
1 by Catahoula Leopard Dog
By age:
18 Children
16 Adults
By State:
TX – 6 deaths
AL – 3 deaths
OH – 3 deaths
FL – 4 deaths
NC – 3 deaths
MI – 2 deaths
AZ – 1 death
CA – 2 death
CT – 1 death
DE – 1 death
IL – 1 death
LA – 1 death
MS – 2 death
NJ – 1 death
MO – 1 death
AR – 1 death
WI – 1 death
Names and ages of the deceased:
Christina Bell-Burleson – 43 – Houston, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.05.14]
Betty Clark – 75 – Canyon Lake, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.06.14]
Kara Hartrich – 4 – Bloomington, IL – 2 Pit Bulls [01.17.14]
Annabel Martin – 89 – Corona, CA – 3 Rottweilers [01.26.14]
Klonda Richey – 57 – Dayton, OH – 2 Mastiff Mixes [02.07.14]
Je’vaeh Mayes – 2 – Temple, TX – Pit Bull [02.17.14]
Braelynn Coulter – 3 – High Point, NC – Pit Bull [02.24.14]
Summer Sears – 4 – Tallassee, AL – Shepherd Mix [02.26.14]
Kenneth Santillan – 13 – Paterson, NJ – Bullmastiff [02.28.14]
Raymane Robinson, Jr. – 2 – Killeen, TX – Bullmastiff [03.01.14]
Nancy Newberry – 77 – Phoenix, AZ – Pit Bull [03.14.14]
Mia DeRouen – 4 – Houma, LA – Pit Bull [03.25.14]
Christopher Malone- 3 – Holmes County, MS – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
Dorothy Hamilton – 85 – Kaufman, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
John Harvard – 5 – Riverside, AL – Pit Bull [04.06.14]
Petra Aguirre – 83 – San Antonio, TX – Pit Bull Mix [04.11.14]
Jessica Norman – 33 – Sebring, FL – 3 Pit Bulls [4.30.14]
Katie Morrison – 20 – Phenix City, AL – 3 Pit Bulls [05.03.14]
Nyhiem Wilfong – 1 – Caldwell County, NC – Rottweiler [05.04.14]
Kasii Haith – 4 – Kent County, DE – 3 Pit Bulls [05.07.14]
Rita Pepe – 93 – Branford, CT – Pit Bull Mix [05.25.14]
Holden Garrison – 10 wks – Davisburg, MI – Catahoula Leopard Dog [06.09.14]
Logan Shepard – 4 – Riverview, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [07.19.14]
Jonathan Quarles – 7 mo – Dayton, OH – Pit Bull [07.20.14]
Craig Sytsma – 46 – Metamore Twp, MI – 2 Cane Corso [07.23.14]
Cindy Whisman – 59 – Madison Twp, OH – Pit Bull [08.04.14]
Joel Chireieleison – 6 – Fanning Springs, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [08.07.14]
Deriah Solem – 22 mo – St Charles County, MO – Pit Bull Mix [08.09.14]
Javon Dade – 4 – Miami, FL – Pit Bull [08.13.14]
David Glass Sr.-51-Benton County, MS – 3 Pit Bulls [09.20.14]
Alice Payne – 75 – Cave City, AR – 1 Pit Bull [09.26.14]
Juan Fernandez – 59 – Modesto, CA – 4 Pit Bulls – [10.14.14]
Logan Thomas Meyer – 7 – Hustisford, WI -1 Rottweiler – [10.24.14]
Alemeaner Dial – 83 – Robeson County, N.C. – 4 Pit Bulls – [10.31.14]
Non – Bite Related Canine Deaths
Demonta Collins – 13 – Augusta, GA – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.10.14]
Davon Jigget – 17 – Fulton County, Ga – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.11.14]
Ryan Brown – 15 – Fayette County, TN – Killed by pan thrown by brother when attempting to break up dog fight [08.08.14]
On average so far this year someone has been killed by a pit bull every 12 days. Some of these pit bull attacks were from the family dog that was well trained and had never shown signs of aggression before. The only common in these severe and often fatal attacks is not abuse or lack of training it is breed. Choose the breed of dog you trust the lives of your loved ones with wisely.
VOTE NO ON 2D !!!!!!!!!!
Dennis, by that flawed logic we should ban pools, and butter knifes, as those kill people too… More than 5000 kids drowned last year in the US… But hell, the 34 deaths are more important.
So let’s have leopards and wildebeests. By your logic, any kind of animal should be OK as long as Jason says so.
leopards and wildebeest are not domesticated animals… Pit bulls were bread as guard dogs, Just like the mastiffs, German shepherds. The pit bull is a very loyal dog, and will protect anyone it loves from any type of assault… Its HUMANS that corrupted the breed to fight. that is not in their nature at all, their nature is to protect…
Pit bulls were bred for over a century to kill another dog in “the pit” in the most inhumane way possible.
It’s “bred” And violence is not loyalty. Pit bulls were never guard breeds, although they have been used as such by people who didn’t care if they killed someone. A normal guard breed doesn’t maul intruders to death. They’ll bite, they’ll hurt, but they won’t lose their tiny minds and go into a frenzy that leaves people naked, scalped, limbless and dead. This behavior – the complete lack of a normal inhibition against biting – is a “fighting” trait, and unique to the bulldogs.
Pits were bred for one thing and only one thing – to kill. They are even more dangerous in that regard that wild animals.
Loyal?! You’re kidding right? They are the number one breed “most likely to turn on their owners”! Since they were created and purpose-bred for centuries specifically for violence and killing, it most definitely IS “in their nature”.
Dogs are normally social animals. They need a reason to fight to the death.
Even when fighting over a female in heat, before the pit plague, dogs never killed each other on neutral ground. When they fought, it ended when on submitted but was permitted to limp away alive. Essentially no humans were dismembered or killed on neutral territory either before pit pollution.
Read books by Stratton, Colby Armitage. None contain any advice on how to Train pits to attack, maim, kill. No advice is needed. The books say to wait until your pit is 18 to 24 months of age before you “start” them. That simply means that’s when you LET them fight.
Good pits fought. The curs who did not were killed as they were embarrassments to their sociopathic pitmen breeders.
Sending 300 and counting children alone to the cemetery not to mention the ones alive disfigured having numerous surgeries that to me and others is a beast thst belongs stuffed or in a zoo
So glad the ban was kept in tonight’s vote. Saner heads prevailed. (PS, the word is ‘bred’)
I knew a guy who kept some type of wild cats in his backyard. Eventually the city told him to remove the wild cats. Guess what he got after the wild cats…PIT BULL DOGS!
Jason, Not all cigarettes killed people, but they’re ban in almost all public places now. Not all sliding railing baby cribs killed babies, govt ban them anyway. Not all ford pintos exploded, govt ban them. Not all lawn darts hit people in the head but govt ban them. Just because not every pit bull kills someone does not mean pit bulls are safe. Dozens of people have been killed by pit bulls in the US already in 2014. I know many people love pit bulls, but that’s too many deaths, and sometimes bans save us from ourselves. But don’t worry, there are hundreds of other dog breeds to chose from that do not kill dozens of people a year, so everyone will still be able to have a dog to love.
You can make whatever excuse (or in this case bumper sticker) that you want, but there’s not getting around the fact that PITBULLS kill more people than any other breed.
Hey, we have laws about fencing around pools to keep children safe. What is your problem that you want people to continue to be mauled and killed by pits by denying what pits are doing? You hate people that much?
Once again, where do you get these insane ideas? Only approximately 700 people in the US drown each year in non-boating-related accidents and only approximately 140 of these 700 are children under age 14. Furthermore, people whose children drown in pools, rivers, etc. willing expose those children to the danger. Pit bulls climb/dig under fences, or otherwise “get loose” and attack children doing nothing more than playing in their own backyards, where their parents “thought” they would be safe. If you had any sense at all, you would also realize that the number of people in the US killed by pit bulls each year is a drop in the bucket to the hundreds scalped, disemboweled, dismembered, or left disabled and scarred for life by these 4-legged monsters. There was a case in 2011 of a “butter knife” murder, would you please tell us more about all those children killed by butter knives each year?
I notice you don’t count this death and the 10,000’s of other pit victim maimings and deaths.
Jason, you are the same as Michael Vick. Dog dismemberment and death are acceptable to you both.
Dogs are meant to be loving companions not lucifers spawn and yes 34 that shouldn’t have happened cause of this rotten breed lets not forget 300 kids alone are dead from this breed but that’s not a lot very unimportant cause it hasn’t reached 5000 yet
Every 12 days someone is killed by a pit bull attack.
VOTE NO ON 2D !!
I am
Any animal has it’s own primal instinct which it can go to at any time. With a jaw pressure of 320 psi, I would never want to be near even the gentlest pit bull on the planet. Whether trained or not, trained to be killers or not, they are potentially lethal animals capable of inflicting tremendous damage, sometime fatal, as newspaper accounts have recorded many thousands of times. I hope Aurora does not reinstate them in this next election.
I’m sorry for the loss this young women suffered. Maybe people should let some time pass before trying to exploit her tragedy for their agenda. No one owns or has the right to her sorrow. I know it’s asking a lot since it’s something only decent human beings would do, but remember, comments on the internet last forever and you will be judged on them for that long. This is also directed at the Sentinel, which has published different variations of this story strictly to drive up more page hits and controversy on the verge of an election, even though they know the majority of voters here have already voted. It’s exploitative.
I think dems coined the term “Never let a good tragedy go unused”
It’s not a democrat or republican issue, it’s a safety issue.
When is it the right time to start to talk about a problem? If a bridge collapsed killing people is it exploitative to talk about bridge safety and inspection laws? It’s an awful argument to say tragedy cannot inspire change for the good. This is currently on tomorrows ballot and you would want no one to speak out until this girl can heal? What a joke. On top of that point your self righteous finger at Aurora sentenel for reporting a very relevant story. So should AS cover up any stories related to the election because it might generate page hits? What a crazy statement. You are the one trying to use this girls pain to silence the debate. It’s YOU that should be ashamed of yourself.
This is front page on the Sentinel, which has published practically zero dog stories recently unless it’s something negative about a pit bull. The people doing the majority of the commenting don’t even live in Colorado. They are here because they follow pit bull stories and exploit them. The right time to comment is when you really care about an issue, not when you are using it to fuel your entertainment or your agenda. The pit bull repeal is on the ballot because it is ACTIVE now and if this dog was a pit bull, that means the ACTIVE pit bull failed to protect this dog. So tell me how not repealing the ban could’ve saved this dogs life? It couldn’t have because is was in effective when this happened. You are exploiting this girl and pain by posting this story over and over on The pit bull propaganda machine revealed facebook pages and the pitbull apologist page and the pit bulls are evil page and the Inside the Dark Dark Sick Minds of Pit bull owners page, etc, without even getting her blessing to do it. You’ve plastered this story and her picture all over the internet and you’re saying you are not exploiting her? I suppose it goes with the pictures you took off of others page that show people’s children with their pitbulls that have been turned into meme’s with jokes about the pit bull maiming the child, or the pit bull raping the child, etc. You people are disgusting with the amount of people you victimize in the name of ‘victim’s advocacy’. One look at any of the pages you come from and any rational person can tell how you are way beyond an advocacy group. That’s how you are exploiting this victim. As the Sentinel can claim they have to get more readership to save the paper.
Nobody cares if your pit bull licks your face. What people care about is pit bulls escaping confinement then mauling and killing.
Hope that makes sense.
I don’t have a pit bull, so why would anyone care of a nonexistent dog. Like I said, I feel this girl and I’m sorry she is being bombarded by these comments, just like I’m sorry that some commenters have actually tried to reach out to her parents to ‘interview’ them for their hate pages. Very classy. I don’t argue with hate groups, so signing off now.
This is actually my post, which I deleted since I couldn’t edit it for clarity and grammer. Not sure why it showed back up after it was deleted so I’ll try to delete the other one. I’m unable to edit this one for clarity or grammer, so typos stay. Sorry for the double post.
Oh, come off it. The majority of pit advocates are from out of town too.
Having a ban on pit bulls does a couple of things in this situation. It provides proof that the pit owner is an irresponsible lawbreaker because he is breaking the law just by owning the pit. That’s a nice thing to have established up front, as it gives police a stronger reason to pursue the case. In areas without BSL, the police often dismiss pit bull attacks as “dog fights” and turn the whole thing over to Animal Control, which often declines to pursue the pit owner because a) AC is less well-funded than the police in most areas, and b) is geared toward animal welfare rather than community safety, and tends to be biased toward the attacking animal. Also, BSL creates stronger penalties for people whose illegal breeds are mishandled to the point where they’re able to cause damage and suffering to others. If it truly is “the owners,” then good owners have nothing to fear from BSL – look at Moore. Nobody reported him to the police for his pit, there was no witch hunt to his doorstep simply because he was snuggling with his wiggle-butt on the balcony. No, the only reason he’s run afoul of BSL is because his pet threw itself off a balcony, attacked a child’s pet and tore him apart as neighbors tried to beat him off the screaming dog who was being killed in front of his own house as his child watched.
I really think the whole argument of someone did not follow a law to we shouldn’t have laws, is stupid. I think that people that push this idea are disingenuous. We have laws in this country so when people break them there are consequences. This man had a pit bull illegally, it viciously KILLED THIS DOG and now he will face the consequences. NOW is the proper time to talk about this tragedy and this ban that should stay on the book. Though the timing is bad for friends of pit bulls, it is the RIGHT time to talk about the ACTIVE pit bull ban. The rest of your post seems to group me in some weird anti pit bull person with an internet omnipresence. I do not have a facebook page. I have not plastered this story or her picture anywhere on the internet. You are disgusting for not seeing this for what it is. As much as the put bull lovers like to deny, these dogs were bred to KILL other dogs, fight bulls, and bait bears. They bred this viscous dog for that very reason. THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS!. I live here in Aurora, I am not from out of town. This is something the paper should report on. As for Aurora Sentinel they are a newspaper, they report news stories. If you really think a dog ripping a little girls dog to pieces in front of her is not news worthy when this law is actively being repealed. You are more asinine than I thought. This is sick what this dog did. And yes this guy would have been able to illegally keep this dog forever if it wouldn’t have gotten out, but it did and KILLED this small dog. Yes there are others keeping illegal dog breeds. People break laws that is why we have a court system. When people commit a crime, there are punishments. We cannot eliminate crime by making laws, but that’s not why we have laws. This law works. With more of these dogs on the streets we will have more incidents like this one, but the poster earlier is right. Next time it could be a child. I wont re-post this, unfortunately I don’t have to, for the hardcore news buffs attacks like these are weekly. They are also reported on whether or not a ban is being voted on. Though most of have voted, keep this ban in place Aurora!
What I think is disingenuous
are people that act like they know nothing about the hate group, and yet push
their agenda and partake in all their discussions. You wouldn’t be here if it weren’t for them
and that means you support the vile harassment, stalking and victimizing they
do to innocent people, including children.
No one said anything about not having laws because people
don’t follow them. My point was you are
crying for the breed ban to remain in place and I pointed out the relevance to
this case with the breed ban. …. Zilch.
The argument against BSL is that it is not working to do what it is intended
to do, so time to admit it and move on to trying something else that might work
where BSL has failed.
Regardless of the dog killing another dog, the owner was
egregious by leaving his dog unattended on a balcony. There’s no question there for me. I don’t care what breed of dog it is. They can jump off and hurt themselves and as
this example shows, they can jump off and hurt other dogs, wildlife or even
another person. It’s an irresponsible
thing to do and the guy should be punished for doing that to his dog and he
should be punished for what his dog did to the neighbors dogs. They haven’t seen the dog and don’t know what
it is, so can’t prosecute under the breed ban, yet they are still able to
charge him, no breed ban needed. Imagine
that. Although, I admit, they aren’t
going after him as if he kept a pit bull, so the punishment will be light. It always is unless it’s a pit bull and that’s
the ridiculous part. If I get hurt and
it wasn’t a pit bull, my injuries somehow mean nothing and I don’t need
justice. That’s the way it is in
Aurora. Of course, you wouldn’t know
that because you don’t live here and yet you say what does being local have to
do with weighing it? Exactly that, you have
no idea what problems we face day to day or what it will take to fix them
because you don’t even know what they are.
And you’re right I VOTED and my my VOTE COUNTS towards repealing the BAN! Yeah Aurora. Go troll in your own state.
Sign off scumbag and I hope your mauled by a pit so you can experience the agony so many have scum! Let me tell you loser most people with exception of you will vote to keep the ban so in the end your vote means crap
Thank you for showing how educated and classy you are 🙂 And thank you for giving me another screenshot for my page to show the true nature of your ilk. The dbo hate crown is certainly living up their name of WOD, Westboro of Dogs and your comment helps them. So good at sinking your own ship. This issue will not die and in case you didn’t know, Colorado has a statewide ban on BSL, so the fight is not over. The only difference is I can disagree with someone without wishing death or a horrible fate on that person. I do not believe that a person only has worth if they agree with me. YOU clearly do not believe that and YOU clearly do not have the tools available to you to have a decent conversation. You have the conversational and debateskills of a potty mouthed 10 year old. Like I said earlier, internet comments last forever. It’s easy to be brave on the internet, isn’t it? You do realize that term you just used in other comments is used almost exclusively on the hate pages by one person only, right?
I couldn’t edit my typo’s, so I’m reposting
with grammer corrected. This is front page on the Sentinel, which has published practically zero dog stories recently unless it’s something negative about a pit bull. The people doing the majority of the commenting don’t even live in Colorado. They are here because they follow pit bull stories and exploit them. The right time to comment is when you
really care about an issue, not when you are using it to fuel your entertainment or your agenda. The pit bull repeal is on the ballot because it is ACTIVE now and if this dog was a pit bull, that means the ACTIVE pit bull ban failed to protect the other dog. So tell me how not repealing the ban could’ve saved this dogs’ life? Better yet, I’m not interested in your opinion. It couldn’t have because it was in effective when this happened. This girl has been exploited by having this story posted over and over on the pit bull propaganda machine revealed facebook pages and the pitbull apologist pages and the pit bulls are evil pages and the Inside the Dark Dark Sick Minds of Pit bull owners page, etc, without even getting her
blessing to do it. It’s been plastered along with her picture all over the internet and you’re saying that’s not exploitative? I suppose it goes with the
pictures taken off of others page that show people’s children with their pitbulls that have been turned into meme’s with jokes about the pit bull maiming the child, or the pit bull raping the child, etc. You people are disgusting with the amount of people you victimize in the name of ‘victim’s advocacy’. One look at any of the pages you all come from and any rational person can tell how far beyond any normal advocacy group you are. That’s how you are exploiting this victim. At least the Sentinel can claim they have to get more readership to save the paper.
Well said perfect perhaps a reality check instead of fun is what he/she needs
A vote to keep the ban only takes away our liberties as Americans… Keeping these arbitrary bans just lets the government continue to take more and more liberties in the interest of “Public Safety” that no statistics or facts support…
Over 350 breeds of dog, pick one that is not bred for blood sports.
Oh, it’s flag time? How about the liberty of this girl to keep her little dog? To not witness her childhood pet being slaughtered in front of her? The US isn’t a playground for maniacs who want perfect protection of their “freedom” to own any given object, it’s a democracy. Majority rule. The majority of people do not own pit bulls and would really rather their neighbors not own them either. That’s not because they really hate pit bulls, but because they really think they’d like to keep the family dog, children and seniors alive and well, and use their own yard sometimes. And unfortunately, tragically, the pit bulls have a very well-established record of being an impediment to those goals. Their violence is a well-established fact, not a vague assumption.
Do you live on a deserted island? To deny the stats of the pit bulls put you in another world, not this one. You speak of liberties? What about all these who were denied their liberties by a pit bull who took those away? https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/
Owning a dangerous dog has nothing to do with “our liberties as Americans.” We aren’t allowed to plant marijuana, grow a coca tree, manufacture meth, drive while intoxicated, or exceed the speed limit either and I don’t hear anyone whining about those prohibitions taking away “our liberties as Americans.” The US Constitution does not guarantee anyone the right to own a dangerous dog, or any dog at all for that matter. Dog ownership is a privilege, not a right.
Wow no facts scumbag they sent 300 kids alone and counting to the cemetery..next you’ll be hoping to make cocaine legal and other drugs taking away our liberties! Good I don’t need those liberties that are fatal loser
If the ban is lifted perhaps it’s time to have my own pit bull to protect my wife & I when we take our walks. There are some folks walking pits at Expo Park.
Aurora, Colorado
Population 339,030
Also in March, Aurora released statistical data showing a significant reduction in the volume of pit bull attacks and pit bulls euthanized after adopting a pit bull ban in 2005.
“Since the ban has been in place, bites are down 73 percent from pit bulls,” said Cheryl Conway, a spokeswoman for the city’s animal care division.
She described various problems the city encountered before enacting the ban in 2005 that included irresponsible owners letting the dogs run at large, and owners using pit bulls to taunt pedestrians.
She added that the dogs placed a tremendous burden on city staff. According to city documents, before the ordinance was enacted in 2005, up to 70 percent of kennels in the Aurora Animal Shelter were occupied by pit bulls with pending court disposition dates or with no known owner. That number is now only 10 to 20 percent of kennels.
“There hasn’t been a human mauling in many years. Complaints and requests related to pit bulls are down 50 percent. Euthanasia of pit bull dogs is down 93 percent. Of those few that are put down, they are primarily those that come in as strays and their owners don’t come to claim them,” she said.
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Omaha, Nebraska
Population 415,068
After the City of Omaha adopted a pit bull law in 2008, Mark Langan of the Nebraska Humane Society, who opposed the law, said in September 2009 that pit bull biting incidents were down 35% since its adoption:
“Despite the attack of Haynes, The Humane Society’s Mark Langan says pitbull bites are down since new laws went into effect last year. Langan says so far this year 54 bites have been reported compared to 83 last year.”
In September 2010, the Nebraska Humane Society provided bite statistical data to city council members and an evaluation of the effectiveness of the pit bull ordinance adopted by the City of Omaha in late 2008.
“It is the position of the Nebraska Human Society that this ordinance has been effective in reducing bites involving dogs defined as “Pit Bulls” in the ordinance.”
Judy Varner, President and CEO, Nebraska Human Society
Varner’s attached statistical data shows that bites by pit bulls dropped 40% after one year of the adoption of the ordinance, 121 bites in 2008 down to 73 bites in 2009. The bite rate dropped even further in 2010.
2008 Pit Bull Bites: 121 Total
2009 Pit Bull Bites: 73 Total
2010 Pit Bull Bites (through August): 28 Total
In January 2013, the Nebraska Humane Society reported that pit bull bites dropped to 31 in 2012, down from 121 in 2008 (a 74% reduction), the year that Omaha enacted a progressive pit bull ordinance.
2008 Pit Bull Bites Total: 121 (pre-breed specific ordinance)
Level 2: 52; Level 3: 58, Level 4: 8; Level 5: 3 (69 were Level 3-5 attacks)
2009 Pit Bull Bites Total: 73
Level 2: 49; Level 3: 17; Level 4: 4; Level 5: 3 (24 were Level 3-5 attacks)
2010 (through August) Pit Bull Bites Total: 28
Level 2: 19; Level 3: 6; Level 4: 2; Level 5: 1 (9 were Level 3-5 attacks)
2012 Pit Bull Bites Total: 31
No bite level break down provided
Editorials Modesto Bee
Pit bulls can be deadly; hold owners accountable
If the law makes it difficult to bring charges, then we must change the law
10/31/2014
A full-grown pit bull weighs around 75 pounds. With four of them you get 300 pounds of muscle, jaws and teeth perfect for tearing into flesh.
Against 300 pounds of pit bull, the two people attacked in their own yard on Oct. 14 – an elderly woman and her middle-aged son – never had a chance. That the woman survived was miraculous. Her son wasn’t so lucky.
A tragedy. Sad. Awful.
But was it criminal? We think it was, and we believe charges should be brought against the animals’ owners. Though it’s legal to own four dogs, anyone who owns four potential killers must know the constant threat.
“Four pit bulls equal danger,” said attorney Kenneth M. Phillips, the leading California attorney in dog-bite cases. “When you have a dangerous condition, you have to take steps to correct it.”
More than two weeks after the attack, no criminal charges have been brought.
Though outraged, Sheriff Adam Christianson says he’s not sure the owners can be successfully prosecuted. Unless the homeowner was negligent in letting the dogs escape; unless the dogs were documented nuisances or dangerous; unless they were intentionally made vicious, Christianson says it will be hard to bring charges.
There was no previous contact between animal control and the dogs.
District Attorney Birgit Fladager’s office is bound by the same laws.
That two citizens of this county can be killed in their own yard by a neighbor’s uncontrolled animals is an outrage. A rolling car, an exploding gas can, a random gunshot all would likely result in charges. Why not death by dogs?
Where is the justice if a death is insufficient for charging the owner of four pit bulls – a breed known for its violent attacks on humans and other animals?
Ah, there we go, picking on pit bulls.
Fanciers of the breed will be outraged. And they’ll be at least partially right when they say it’s not the dogs’ fault.
We agree; it’s purely genetics.
Humans have been altering canine characteristics since before the dawn of history. We breed dogs to have long hair, big eyes, to fit into teacups. Some we have bred to be ferocious. So these pit bulls did exactly what eons of breeding required them to do. They became vicious.
It’s true that any breed can deliver a fatal bite. A Centers for Disease Control study in 2000 documented two fatal attacks from dachshunds over a 20-year period. But the overwhelming majority of fatal attacks in the study came from much larger animals – German shepherds, Dobermans, Rhodesian ridgebacks. All paled in comparison to pit bulls and Rottweilers. Those breeds caused 67 percent of human fatalities.
The website dogsbite.org tracks death by dog, documenting 32 fatalities in 2013. Of those, 25 (78 percent) were attributed to pit bulls.
Five were in California, and three resulted in criminal charges. The owner of a Stockton dog that killed has been charged with involuntary manslaughter. When four pit bulls in Littlerock killed a 63-year-old woman, their owner was charged with second-degree murder. He was sentenced to 15 years to life in state prison.
But juries don’t always convict. Phillips said that if the owner shows sufficient remorse, juries often sympathize.
So why bother? Because to protect our neighborhoods and our children, examples must be made.
Large, aggressive dogs are more prevalent in poor neighborhoods. Some people, unable to own a gun, get a pit bull. You can watch them on the TV show “Pit Bulls and Parolees” on Animal Planet.
“It’s amazing what the entertainment industry will produce,” said Sheriff Christianson.
Said Phillips, “You’ve got this whole bunch of people not allowed to carry weapons so they arm themselves with pit bulls and somehow this has turned into a TV series to glorify them.”
Worse, some politicians protect them. In 2004, a bill from Tom Hayden banned “breed specific laws,” meaning you can’t have separate rules for aggressive breeds. If a county allows a person to own four dogs, they can be four poodles or four pit bulls.
If there are no laws under which the owners of deadly animals can be charged, and if wrongheaded laws equate targeting dangerous breeds with doggie discrimination, how is law enforcement supposed to keep such vicious attacks from happening?
They can’t, unless the laws change.
If law enforcement cannot charge, then our lawmakers must step up and fix these laws.
Why not require anyone with an aggressive dog to alarm their fencing, just as gates in fences around swimming pools are alarmed? Why not require owners of aggressive breeds to double fence their property? Why not require people who own such dogs to carry significant liability coverage? Since these breeds are responsible for so much carnage, make certain that anyone who owns one can cover the cost. No insurance, no license; no license, no dog.
Phillips suggested following PETA’s suggestion to destroy the breed by requiring all pit bulls to be neutered – even Hayden’s wrongheaded law wouldn’t stop that.
All of these suggestions will bring howls of indignation from pit-bull devotees. They believe nurture supersedes nature and a lovingly raised pit bull is no more likely to attack than any other dog. Their big, sweet dogs would never bite, unless … Unless what? Unless provoked? Unless sensing danger? Unless someone invades their space? Unless they get the chance?
Until pit-bull advocates are willing to offer suggestions that go beyond simply loving away the ferocity of these aggressive breeds, we’re not willing to listen.
Instead, hold owners accountable for the actions of these killers.
Wichita, Kansas
In January 2009, the Wichita Department of Environmental Services released a number of pit bull statistics. The figures are based upon the Wichita Animal Control department’s investigation of 733 dog bites in 2008.
Included in the data are pit bulls encountered by the Wichita Police Department. In the 1-year period, 95% of police encounters with aggressive dogs were pit bulls.
The report also showed that the percentage of pit bull encounters had increased from 66% in 2004 to 95% in 2008. Subsequently, four months after the release of this data, the City of Wichita enacted a mandatory pit bull sterilization law.
55% of all dogs deemed dangerous were pit bulls (41 pit bull dogs deemed dangerous).
34% of attacks and bites involved pit bull dogs (246 pit bull attacks/bites).
28% of dogs found running at large were pit bulls (1,279 pit bulls found running loose).
25% of dogs impounded were pit bulls dogs (1,575 pit bulls impounded).
37% of all dogs euthanized were pit bull dogs (1,255 pit bulls euthanized).
23% of dog complaints involved pit bull dogs (2,523 complaints involved pit bull dogs).
The mauling death of 75-year old Alice Payne by her pet pit bull on September 26 has prompted Cave City Council members to consider a vicious dog ordinance. In the days following the deadly attack, Cave City Police Chief Nate Stephens asked council members to consider one.
Cave City Police Chief Nate Stephens
“These dogs were bred to fight to death, bite harder, get stronger and be tougher. This breed is what is known as pit bulls. They get the name from the dogs being placed in pits to fight each other.
These dogs weren’t bred for intelligence, to be docile or make good pets. They were made to kill another man’s dog. I have seen some pits that are really nice dogs. I have a friend who has one that will lick you to death. But you never know when a pit will go back to what it is bred to do. Some never do go back and continue to be good pets.
However, it’s a roll of the dice and you never know how they will fall. Statistics shows, that most will turn on their owners and usually a child of the owner. Some of them turn on whoever is handy when they decide to snap.
Some say all dogs will bite and that is true, but pits are more likely to maul and finish the job if they can, and other breeds bite and run or back off. Pits can’t be blamed, it was what they were made to do.”
Per the Aurora’s own data, euthanasia of pit bulls dropped by 93 percent since the law went into effect. Pit bull attacks are down 73 percent. Complaints about pit bulls have been cut in half.
From the city’s animal care division spokeswoman in March of this year:
“Since the ban has been in place, bites are down 73 percent from pit bulls,” said Cheryl Conway, a spokeswoman for the city’s animal care division.
She described various problems the city encountered before enacting the ban in 2005 that included irresponsible owners letting the dogs run at large, and owners using pit bulls to taunt pedestrians.
She added that the dogs placed a tremendous burden on city staff. According to city documents, before the ordinance was enacted in 2005, up to 70 percent of kennels in the Aurora Animal Shelter were occupied by pit bulls with pending court disposition dates or with no known owner. That number is now only 10 to 20 percent of kennels.
“There hasn’t been a human mauling in many years. Complaints and requests related to pit bulls are down 50 percent. Euthanasia of pit bull dogs is down 93 percent. Of those few that are put down, they are primarily those that come in as strays and their owners don’t come to claim them,” she said.
It’s a similar story in Denver, where pit bulls have been regulated since 1982. A 2014 study published in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science found that Denver’s dog euthanasia rates fell by 77 percent after the city enacted its pit bull law. Instead of drowning in a flood of unwanted pit bulls, Denver shelters are able to save almost every homeless dog that comes through the door.
In cities where pit bulls aren’t regulated, they make up one to two thirds of all dogs in shelters. It’s estimated that more than one million of them are euthanized every year. But thanks to its pit bull law, Denver appears to be killing fewer pit bulls than any other major city.
Here’s the deal with Denver COUNTY – per the website itself, those statistics are by county hospital release numbers. Denver county is roughly the same size as the city of Denver which has a very small land area with the highest population density of the entire state.
The high population density Denver metropolitan area includes six surrounding counties – Adams, Arapahoe, Broomfield, Denver, Douglas and jefferson although the federally defined MSA includes TEN surrounding counties.
In addition, Denver county is the only county to have have both the largest level one trauma center and a level 2 pediatric trauma center which will receive serious injuries including the most serious dog mauling’s from the contiguous counties WITHOUT BREED BANS, and also a good portion of southern Colorado rural counties WITHOUT BREED BANS.
The seriously mauled victims from Longmont CO. humane society’s program to adopt out “rehabilitated” aggressive pit bulls into that community would be transported to Denver County hospitals.
That’s why their hospital release rates per capita are higher.
About one pit bull in 107,000 will kill someone this year, compared to
about one other dog in 1.4 million.
About one pit bull in 5,800 will disfigure
someone, compared to about one other dog in 130,000.
About one pit bull in 107
will kill another animal, compared to about one other dog in about 50,000.
MIKE JOYNER –
“As a judge in Environmental Court who has had to deal with numerous cases of dog on dog and dog on human attacks, I can without any bias say that pit bulls are a dangerous breed. The facts speak for themselves. You cannot argue against the data.
My wife owns a doggie daycare and I have dealt with every possible breed. In the six years she has been opened there have been over 1600 dogs that have been through the doors with the exception of the pit bull. Her liability insurance company will not insure her if she takes pit bulls, and as much as I love ALL dogs I do not trust pit bulls around children or other dogs.
I have been on the bench for several cases where a pit bull attacked a child and literally pulled the scalp off of a 12 year old girl’s head. It was a neighbor’s dog and she had pet it a week before the incident, which occurred in her own backyard with the pit bull jumped the fence and attacked her without any provocation or warning. I have had numerous cases where a pit bull attacked another dog and held it down or shook it until it was dead…even in the presence of the owner of the pit bull who could do nothing to separate the dogs.
“Knowing what I know I would be negligent if I promoted pit bulls as pets to any family with children or neighbors with pets.”
NO ON PROPOSITION 2D: PUTTING AN END TO AURORA’S DANGEROUS PIT BULL CHARADE
Of the 38 people who were killed in the United States by dogs last year, two-thirds of those deaths involved pit bulls, which make up about 4 percent of the U.S. dog population. Get it?
BY THE AURORA SENTINEL 09/30/14
Who in Aurora wants to live next door to a pit bull?
Of course not. We don’t either. Your answer to that question tells you how you need to vote on the ill-advised city ballot question, Prop 2D, asking Aurora residents to rescind an 8-year-old ban on pit bulls.
Vote no.
Most Aurora residents were wrong when they thought this has long been a settled matter. The city council prohibited pit-bull breeds in 2006 after a particularly unnerving spate of maulings in and near Aurora. Denver, too, had banned the dogs, and Aurora was quickly becoming a dumping ground.
Now here we are again. During the past few years, national pit bull groups and some local proponents have dragged out the old arguments, saying that these dogs are no more dangerous than any other, and that bad owners rather than bad dogs are to blame.
Aurora Sentinel BadgeNo. They’re wrong. And the evidence has long proved them wrong. Not the pseudo-science and irrelevant studies that these misguided pit-bull aficionados continually trot out. We’re talking about the indisputable evidence that shows that these dogs cause a wildly non-proportionate number of disfiguring and lethal attacks on humans and other dogs. Of the 38 people who were killed in the United States by dogs last year, two-thirds of those deaths involved pit bulls, which make up about 4 percent of the U.S. dog population. Get it?
Everyone understands that all dogs are tamed, wild animals, and every dog breed has been known to bite and maim. But you do not see collies break into convenience stores, intent on a dachshund, grab the animal and drag it and the owner, who was on a scooter for handicapped people.
It happened recently in Englewood after an errant pit bull got out of its yard. It was a horrifying, bloody attack. Despite several people yelling at the pit bull, then pouring hot coffee on it, then pouring hot water on it, then hitting it with a piece of lumber, the pit bull killed the dachshund and would not let go of it. It’s a classic story involving how dangerous these dogs are when they attack, and how their attacks differ from that of most other dogs.
Many residents marvel that a city council as cautious as this one would now ask voters to renege on the ban. But the city council has been bombarded during the past few years to relent. Some on the council say they referred the measure to voters, certain it will fail, to silence the pit-bull proponents once and for all. After a voter mandate, no city council would thwart the direct will of voters.
It’s a dangerous game, one that you play an important part in. Rather than brushing past this measure as just one question on a crowded ballot, it’s important you pay close heed to how the question is phrased. Voters are being asked to create an ordinance to allow the pit bulls back in the city. It’s vital to vote “no” to ensure the animals don’t repopulate the community, bringing back the old, deadly problems.
We agree with pit-bull owners on this: Every dog owner must be accountable for their dog, regardless of the breed. The city has serious laws regarding irresponsibly harboring any vicious animal, and all dogs must be leashed outside their owner’s property.
But lions, bears, rhinos, cheetahs and pit bulls? Not allowed in the city, and there’s no good reason to change that. Vote no on Proposition 2D.
Paid and bought by Dog bite. org.. run by Collen Lynn…read about her “bite” that certainly could have been avoided.
https://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/109-collen-lynn-seattle-animal-control-records
You guys are so scared of Colleen Lynn, a victim of a pit bull attack, that you have set up blogs, fb pages, scared to death of what this woman is managing to accomplish. We are laughing at you, did you know that? Your fear of Lynn is laughable.
You ought to know Harve you are pw by her.
Liar, Liar, Liar, go ahead prove it, make my day pit nutter, i have no connection financial or otherwise to Dogsbite dot org other then my admiration for the fine good work that Colleen Lynn does in educating the public about the real public danger that is presented by the pit bull type dog to public safety.!!!
In your famous words.. dogbite.org stands by its credentials… I and my supports stand by ours. have Merrit release his data and I will release mine.
Also you must cut and paste alot since this was your last reply.. does Collen approve all posts.. I notice once in awhile you post something on your own…
Merritt Clifton Editor Of Animals24-7:
I have logged fatal & disfiguring dog attacks in the U.S. and Canada since September 1982.
Of the 5,061 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 3,507 (68%) were pit bulls; 557 were Rottweilers; 4,343 (85%) were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, bull mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes.
Of the 571 human fatalities, 303 were killed by pit bulls; 87 were killed by Rottweilers; 436 (75%) were killed by molosser breeds.
Of the 3,079 people who were disfigured, 2,159 (68%) were disfigured by pit bulls; 328 were disfigured by Rottweilers; 2,639 (84%) were disfigured by molosser breeds.
Pit bulls–exclusive of their use in dogfighting–also inflict more than 70 times as many fatal and disfiguring injuries on other pets and livestock as on humans, a pattern unique to the pit bull class.
Fatal and disfiguring attacks by dogs from shelters and rescues have exploded from zero in the first 90 years of the 20th century to 80 in the past four years, including 58 by pit bulls, along with 22 fatal & disfiguring attacks by other shelter dogs, mostly Rottweilers & bull mastiffs.
The only dogs rehomed from U.S. shelters to kill anyone, ever, before 2000 were two wolf hybrids in 1988 and 1989. 33 U.S. shelter dogs & one U.K. shelter dog have participated in killing people since 2010, including 24 pit bulls, seven bull mastiffs, and two Rottweilers.
Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are less than 7% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.
You mean the great academic imposter Merrit Clifton…why will he not share his data ? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/merritt-clifton-pit-bulls_b_5866176.html
You have a complex, because your dogs are powerful you think you are powerful. I saw a comment were you admitted that your dogs were dangerous around other dogs.
Be interested in seeing that comment. Actually my dogs are adopted from a shelter where I have volunteered for a number of years.
I have a great job and income.. no complex I just want to help a few dogs that were in a shelter.
That’s your tale, boy, I sit on mine.
Yeah, like you’d admit you’re unemployed and living off welfare!
Actually had the same well paying job in the supply chain software industry and a retired Navy Supply Corp Officer. To bad we cannot make a small wager on your last remark.
People can have a good job but still need to fulfill a complex. Lot of people who feel powerless connect to power breeds.
There are over 200 breeds of dog, with a wide range of inherent traits and characteristics, from which one can choose a pet. There is not one single positive trait in a pit bull that can’t be found in DOZENS of other breeds, without the inherent risk to society. What kind of person deliberately chooses a breed created and purpose-bred for violence and killing with all these other choices? What kind of *parent* (using the term loosely) decides that from all these choices, they will choose the one purpose-bred for killing to bring home around their children? Normal people choose normal dogs! They don’t choose a dog to “make a statement” while exposing their loved (?) ones and neighbors to a high risk of a brutal attack. Normal people choose one of the other 200 plus breeds NOT bred specifically for unprovoked and sustained savagery!
Thanks for your opinion Karen.. how is that dog doing you kept in a basement for 6 years.. using an automatice feeder and water.. must be pretty lonely with no contact..
That is such a used cut and paste Karen you and Thomas should share your cut and paste techniques..
I’ve never kept a dog in the basement d-s. And he’s doing fabulous.
Sooo…These are not the first dogs I have adopted.. the first was a white female pit bull type dog who I had for almost 14 years.. you seem to sterotype all pit bull type dogs and owners.
Nice to have a perfect personality… is that why you are dressed in a sheet.. maybe because you always want to feel sexy or noted for your sexual prowless or lack there of ? My point dont rush to judgement based on appearances.
It’s “TOO bad,” not “TO bad” and if you had been a naval officer, you would know that.
Pit bulls are weapon dogs.
You can only wish that Clifton is an imposter, and wishful thinking doesn’t make it so. The world knows and respects Clifton’s work, the only ones who don’t are those associated with the number one canine killer in the world, the pit bull.
Rubbish, Merritt Clifton & Colleen Lynn of Dogsbite.orgcompile dog attack incidents reported by the mainstream media where all aspects of said attack including confirming it was a pit bull type dog is done by first responders, animal and dog experts who are actually there, their stats are impeccably researched and compiled to accurately reflect the reality of the danger that is the pit bull type dog.
Merritt Clifton & Colleen Lynn of Dogsbite dot org amasses data from media reports of dog attacks, media reports are a traditionally well respected, bona fide source for epidemiologists and historians of every subject on earth.
Researchers in 39 countries had uncovered the same data Clifton et al have, and arrived at similar conclusions about pit bulls.
If Clifton is a fraud, how come insurance companies and 35 other countries that ban pit bulls in some jurisdictions and who did not rely on Clifton’s statistics all came to the same conclusions? Cooper is trying to suggest that only “epidemiologists” have the right to speak on this issue. But as Merritt says, it is actuarial tables that are important, and therefore Cooper is barking up the wrong tree.
Sadly one does not even have to search for the many attacks of these savage mutant undog’s on humans and pets, there are literally hundreds of new incidents every day carried out by these disgusting creatures, here is another.
These are all major daily newspapers and network TV station accurate factual reports with direct access to Doctors, ER’s Animal control officers, Police, the victims family, witnesses, the guilty pit nutters, all in news reports from major city newspapers and TV stations, as legit therefore as it possibly can be.
There is only one breed that has every been or is a threat to public safety and that is the pit bull, the sooner they are exterminated the sooner tragic attacks like the one below will be ended.
Ban the breed and end the deed.
Here is the truth about Merritt Clifton:
Barbara Kay
Columnist, Writer
“Pit Bull Hysteria” Is Based on Fact
Posted: 09/29/2014
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/-barbara-kay/pit-bull-merritt-clifton_b_5900736.html
Who defended him by saying its his data why should he share it.. even the most basic statices coarse will indicate that data must be reveiwed to make sure that the same conclusion will be meet… WHY WILL HE NOT SHARE HIS DATA ? Simple it doesnt exist or no rational person would conclude the same.
Clifton’s data, as he points out himself, comes from press reports. ANYONE in the world has access to U.S. press reports via an academic search tool like LexisNexis or even a Google News search.
Here’s my challenge to you and anyone else who has a problem with Clifton’s database (or any of the several peer-reviewed studies which have independently come to the same conclusion):
Gather all press reports on dog attacks over any time period of your choice — two weeks, two years, you name it — and report back with what percentage of severe and deadly attacks involved pit bulls and what percentage didn’t involve pit bulls.
If you find that pit bulls AREN’T involved in the majority of severe and deadly dog attacks, I’ll eat a big plate of horse manure.
Barbara Kay uses Merrits Cliftons so called studies.. with the proof that the data is not there or the conclusions incorrect..her column is kput.. she is columisnt not statitician..
As usual it was a PITBULL doing what they always do.
If the dog cannot be found how is it that it been called a pit bull… which is just a catch alll term for over 20 different breeds… thought the hard working tax dollars in Aurora was supposed to keep pit bulls out.. just shows how effective the law is.
This is just like drunk driving laws, people still drink and drive but if they get caught there are legal consequence to pay.
Aurora has kept BSL in place and you guys have lowered your number of attacks and fatalities for sure. NOW IT’S TIME TO PENALIZE LAW BREAKERS. A LAW IS ONLY AS GOOD AS ITS ENFORCEMENT. GO GET EM AUTHORITIES…..DO YOUR WORST! THIS ACT THAT KILLED ANOTHER’S PRECIOUS PET IS I L L E G A L. Without BSL this pet owner wouldn’t have a leg to stand on, like so many others. BECAUSE OF BSL you have a precedent, a penalty and can actually DO SOMETHING TO THE PERPETRATOR.
And isn’t it like a LOWLIFE DOG owner to lie and hide the animal. Figures!!!! YOU’VE GOT THE LAWS, NOW GO GET EM AURORA! WAY TO GO! KEEP THAT BAN AND LEAD THE NATION! TEXAS IS ON OUR WAY!!!!!
BSL has proven to be ineffective. Miami Dade has had BSL for years yet a pit bull type dog killed a person… I say go after the person if they own a dog that kills another or attacks a person. Dogs are not responsible.. people are. When was the last time you saw a dog leash its self up ?
There are always those law breakers and of course, they usually own a pit bull. The point, Bully Bob, is that Miami voted overwhelmingly to keep their ban. You lost.
Stupid people sterotype Harve.. they voted to keep a law that is not enforced, and pay for the supposed enforcement. Lets hope the citizens of Aurora have better sense.
So you call all those voters stupid huh? No Bully Bob, they weren’t stupid, they were smart, smarter than you evidently. They know what pits do, you deny what they do. Your denial causes harm to others, are you proud of yourself?
I am proud that I evaluate every person and dog on their individual merits.. Harve. You have never meet me or my dogs yet you condemn both me and my dogs..
That’s your tale, I sit on mine.
Actually I am calling you stupid. WhaleTale.
Keeping up with the elections BB? I do believe that your cause is losing and not just losing, but losing by a overwhelming margin. Stupid people lose, so who’s stupid now.
Unlike the pitwits, most of us recognize a pit bull when we see one. Sean Moore (the dog owner) has not denied the dog was a pit bull and why would he have taken so much trouble to hide the frankenmauler if it wasn’t a pit bull? Yes, he denied he was the owner, but that ‘s typical pitwit behavior.
Liar liar pants on fire, so typical for the pit bull owner to run away like a coward and not “man up”. These dogs should be banned.
If he were a “man”, he wouldn’t have needed a pit bull!
I’ve tried to see theie side n the undogs I just can’t do it anymore not a frigging day goes by and these shitbulls are in the news attacking n killing !! No more I’d rather face the facts then face an airlift or worse cemetery from their fairy tales
Interesting that the owner of the dogs knows owners of pit bull type dogs and realizes they are not all dangerous… how does she meet these people if pit bull type dogs are banned in Aurora… is it possible that the law is not enforced and tax payers are paying for an unenforceable law… just saying.
You can’t feel too bad about losing your dog, baby, if you still like and approve of Pit Bulls. Anyone that can stand there and watch their own dog be ripped apart by these monsters and still utter those lame words. “Its not the dog, its the owner”, well, I hope you never own another dog. You don’t deserve to have a dog if that’s how you feel.RIP to your sweet Baby.
Thanks for your judgement Gail… at least she is open minded enough to realize that not all pit bull type dogs and the owners are the same…
I think Aurora should ban aggressive blog posting. I am afraid for my family due to their anti-BSL stance and belief that laws should never generalize based on appearance.
The people who are pro BSL have that right, but many push the issue beyond a discussion to attack and denial.
Hopefully at some point the leadership at Aurora City Council and the Municipal Animal Shelter will change enough that a discussion including experts in the field can be brought in to bring Aurora out of the 1980’s in this matter.
This event could have been avoided and is a tragic reminder that people need to be responsible and mindful of their dogs, regardless of breed. Having a dog is a privilege with responsibilities.
You should be afraid for your family you’ve put the danger in
The pit bulls are more important than the family, otherwise they’d have a normal breed of dog, not the breed that kills a human on average of every 14 days and tears of the body part of someone every 5.4 days.
I am sorry for this tragic event. Irresponsible owners need to be held accountable and it looks like this one will be, even without the breed ban. For a well thought out article with stats, go here: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/brent-toellner/aurora-colorado-breed-ban_b_6078432.html?fb_comment_id=fbc_911927682160136_911950885491149_911950885491149#f267d08238e318e
The ONLY THING THAT YOU HAVE BETWEEN THESE DOGS, THEIR IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERSC AND YOU AND YOUR FAMILY, IS YOUR BAN. KEEP AURORA SAFE. KEEP YOUR BAN.
Which does not seem to do much good…only the law abidding people will obey the law which are usually the better dog owners and responsible..
The only thing that is between Aurora Citizens and vicious dogs is Aurora Animal Control. If they are spending their time and money chasing the short haired boogey man, they will not have time to spend looking into legitimate cases of cruelty, neglect and abuse – the true culprits behind dog attacks.
Make Aurora Safer and more efficient. Vote to hold all dog owners accountable, not just those who own dogs a small group of vocal people see and ugly and unworthy to live.
They are not worthy to live they need pts all of them
The citizens have spoken loud and clear! They don’t want your mutants in their town! If this issue would be put to vote in every town, instead of being decided by politicians kowtowing to the pit bull lobby, we would finally be free of these landsharks! Even people that may not think they’re that bad, still think NIMBY!
Pit bull bans work!
https://www.wausaudailyherald.com/story/news/local/2014/07/20/pit-bull-bans-controversial-work/12892813/
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/10/03/pit_bulls_were_torontos_biggest_biters_before_the_ban.html
https://siouxcityjournal.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/years-later-impact-of-sioux-city-pit-bull-ban-unclear/article_85834f40-a0d3-55c6-b5cc-7b2f4be56e65.html?comment_form=true
https://www.news-leader.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/03/25/sb-pull-pit-bull-protection-bill/6887605/ –
“According to statistics taken from the Springfield-Greene County Health Department, as reported in the News-Leader March 12, for the three-year period beginning in 2004, there were 42 “vicious” animal attacks recorded in the jurisdiction covered. After passing the local ordinance banning or strictly controlling the ownership of pit bull or pit bull types, the number of attacks has dropped dramatically. For the five-year period from 2007-2011, there was a total of 14.”
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/03/indy-radio-talk-show-interviews.html
Fatal Pit Bull Attacks
Child Fatalities
A growing archive of U.S. children killed by pit bulls since 1980
https://www.fatalpitbullattacks.com/children-killed-by-pit-bulls.php
There are like 200 breeds of dogs. “Pit bulls” encompass about 6 of them. Why get a breed or breed mix that will deny you home owner’s insurance?
The more pit bull owners feel the need to insist they’re safe, the less I want anything to do with the dogs.
I want a pet, not an advocacy movement and all the baggage that comes with it.
I love dogs. But I’d rather have no dog than a pit bull.
You have to wonder what convinces someone a fighting breed dog will make a good pet.
They aren’t looking for “a good pet.”
People kill people more than pitbulls should we ban them? No? End of discussion. You idiots.
Not the end of discussion dirtball one doesn’t compare humans to dogs there’s no comparison only a 5yr old would dogs are bred with traits man put into them and that’s what distinquishes the breeds moron! Now go take your dirt nap
Top 10 Most Dangerous Dog Breeds Based on Bite Fatalities. Number one? Pit Bulls.
So says the American Medical Veterinary Association.
https://www.curiosityaroused.com/nature/top-10-most-dangerous-dog-breeds-based-on-bite-fatalities/
No sign of “pit bull’ that killed dog. Therein lies the problem. The media and its ‘bias” and the fact that pit bull is not a breed of dog but a generic term used to describe a look of a dog. The only dog that has pit bull in its name and is a purebred dog is the American Pit Bull Terrier and the fact that a dog killing another dog, although tragic, would make the news is evidence of the insanity of the media and its bias. You don’t think some other dog out there killed something? They are predators. Unbelievable bias towards a dog that isn’t even one breed of dog but a look and they are all called pit bulls. Stupid, senseless, stupid, biased and the same old crap, different day dished out by the media. Low blow by the less than stellar media.
“Pit bull” is a term used to describe a specific type of dog, what some people call a “landrace.” It’s similar to the terms “spaniel,” “setter” “terrier” and “collie” in that it describes a group of artificially developed dog breeds which share similar backgrounds, appearances and skills. Terriers tend to be small and brave, collies tend to be fast and smart, etc. A small, brave dog would have limited success herding sheep, and a fast, smart dog would have limited success hunting rodents and small game into their dens. The “pit bull” breeds include the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT), the American Staffordshire Terrier, the Staffordshire Terrier, the American Bulldog, the Bullmastiff, the American Bully, etc. They are all descended from the bulldogs; the “terrier” in some pit bull names is terribly inaccurate and was done deliberately in the early 20th century to obscure the bulldog origins because the bulldogs have always had a dire reputation for violence. Eliza, fleeing the dread “bloodhounds” in the hugely popular Uncle Tom’s Cabin, before the Civil War, was fleeing huge pit/mastiff crosses, not the dog we call a bloodhound today.
I’m not sure how to explain this to you, but the media does not have the energy to have a bias. It simply drifts. Pit bull attacks are reported while, say, Lab attacks are not because pit bull attacks are typically more violent, more damaging and therefore more newsworthy. Yes, a Lab or a Golden probably did attack another dog today in Aurora. But the other dog probably survived and probably didn’t even need to go to the vet. That’s called “normal” not bias.
And the people have spoken loud and clear – “keep your kid killers out of our town”! WTG Aurora! This is what happens when the citizens get a voice instead of allowing the legislators, who kowtow to the pit bull lobby, make the decision. The citizens want their children, elderly, and pets to be safe on public sidewalks and in public parks! Such great news!
“By a 2-to-1 margin, Aurora voters say they don’t want pit bulls to return to the city, based on early returns.
With more than 70,000 votes counted across Adams and Arapahoe counties so far, voters have overwhelmingly said no to Aurora ballot question 2D, which would lift the city’s 9-year-old ban on the dogs.
In Arapahoe County, 68 percent of voters said no. In Adams County, 63 percent voted against lifting the ban.”
People who witness violent pitbull attacks on their pets often suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. It is very ugly and instills feelings of deep powerlessness, especially in children, to watch a loved pet be torn apart, plead and scream for help with loud squeals and watch blood and fur line the street. Keep the ban.
Ten Dogs Most Blacklisted by Insurers. Guess which breed is #1?
https://www.bankrate.com/lite/insurance/dogs-most-often-blacklisted-by-insurers-1.aspx
So glad the ban was kept in tonight’s vote.
Sad that an animal had to die, because of another irresponsible dog owner or from what he says a dog watcher! If you own a dog, don’t let it run loose, train it and socialize it. Owned a Pit Bull for 15 years with no issues. Own a Pit Bull now going on 3 years with no issues. She has been attacked once in her life by a friend’s dog that “was not” a Pit Bull. This poor girl had to witness something tragic that could have been prevented.
The pit bull jumps a 2nd floor balcony to kill someone’s small dog.
The American Pit Bull Terrier (HISTORY OF FIGHTING DOGS Series) Paperback
by Joseph L. Colby
ISBN-13: 978-1846642562
Originally published in 1936, this book is extremely rare in its early editions. Hugely informative and in-depth, it is a complete treatise on the breed covering the entire field, with particular emphasis on dog-fighting.
My question is why was she walking her shih tzu late Wednesday night if she knew that at night people and animals are dangerous??
People now days don’t think! They just do!! Seriously people