AURORA | A controversial ad about pit bulls that ran in the Aurora Sentinel and Denver Post will appear in two more editions of the Post’s “YourHub” insert after the sponsor said the Denver newspaper threatened to pull the ad after pit-bull proponents reportedly flooded the newspaper with complaints.
The ad, which states “fact: pit bulls kill more humans and animals than all breeds combined,” was created by Jeff Borchardt of Daxton’s Friends. The non-profit advocacy group formed after Borchardt’s 14-month-old son was mauled to death by two pit bulls in 2013 while at a babysitter’s house. The ad does not mention Aurora’s ballot question 2D, which would end the city’s 8-year-old ban on pit bulls. Election stories draw heavy and heated comment from both sides of the issue. YourHub is a weekly zoned reader-contributed content section of the Denver Post.
After the ad ran, an employee with the Post’s advertising department asked Borchardt if he could revise the ad to make it “not so in your face” going forward. In email correspondence obtained by Sentinel, the employee wrote Borchardt that the Post had received “a ton of hate mail and complaints” in response to it. Borchardt said Post advertising officials told him they would refuse the ad unless he modified he because of the complaints from pit-bull proponents.
Carla Royter, the paper’s advertising and sales director, said Friday that the Post would run the remaining ads to include language that identified them with political advertising.
“We’ve spoken with the advertiser and they have agreed to source their claims and to add ‘paid for by’ required of political advertising. So with these additions, the ad will publish as ordered,” she said in a statement.
The ad, which was also published in the Aurora Sentinel’s 2014 Voter’s Guide, comes at a time when Aurora residents are voting on whether to repeal a nearly-decade-long ban on pit bulls.
Borchardt said the ad is not political and that he is still working with the Post on revisions.
“This is a freedom of speech issue,” he said. He said, however, he will agree to use the site Dogsbite.org as a source for the next two ads.
Borchardt has also received prolific critical comments since the ad went to print. From emails he forwarded to the Sentinel, many focused on his deceased son. One commenter posted a picture of his son’s head and wrote “my dart board lmfao.”
Borchardt does not live in Colorado but has family in the state. His mother-in-law, who did not want to be named for this story, lives in Centennial and has corresponded with Aurora City Council about her grandson’s death. Centennial does not have a ban on pit bulls.
Thousands of heated comments from both ban proponents and critics accompany almost every story that runs on the issue at aurorasentinel.com.



We are deeply sorry for the Borchardt’s loss of their son
Daxton. No parent should ever have to bury a child. To lose your child so
suddenly, so tragically, would leave anyone searching for answers and struggling
to find a solid solution to prevent any parent from having to live through that
nightmare.
However, what we see all too often is the adhering to an
idea that is not founded in good science, and goes against what both true
experts and peer reviewed empirical data tells us. That while there are many
common factors in dog attacks/fatalities, breed is not on of them.
My. Borchart tried to have family pets banned in his home
city and was not successful. He is not a Colorado resident and we are at a loss
as to why he, and his cohort Ms. Lynn of dogsbite.org, would spend so much
effort to try and dictate what local communities in a state thousands of miles
from them, should vote.
Additionally, neither party, who are so adamant about banning dogs who
look a certain way, lives in an area that has those breed restrictions.
ColoRADogs firmly believes that the people of Colorado deserve to have this
very important and profound discussion without out-of-state interests posting
hysteria-based information. These are our communities, our friends, neighbors,
and our dogs. These are our decisions to make.
The one common ground we have is that we all want tragedies
like what happened to Dax to end.
We also know that when we look to enforce laws that address reckless
owners instead of condemning a dog based on appearance, we increase public
safety and reduce the chances of another horrific circumstance that ended this
child’s life. We appreciate Mr. Borchardt’s passion and recognize his reasons.
But the innocent lives of family pets in Colorado should not have to pay the
price for his loss.
If Mr. Borchardt or Ms. Lynn would like to discuss this
further in a public venue, ColoRADogs would be happy for the opportunity to
dispel the misinformation they continue to propagate as truth.
As for the claim about the “dart-board.” If that happened it is truly reprehensible but as they say, the proof is in the pudding. Could the readers please see the proof of such an act so we know it is not a group who is once again yanking the chains of Aurora voters?
The sad thing is he seldom has anything to support his claims of abuse. And he’s smart enough to hide behind pages like the Pit Bull Propoganda Machine Revealed to make his horrific statements. Then he can deny it was him. He’s a smart cookie. Until you really take a look at his actions .. even the ones he tries to hide. Then he’s shown for what he really is. Just a sad sad man drowning in his own guilt and trying desperately to take the rest of us down with him.
He is a grieving father who wishes to save others from his heart-ache. He isn’t devious, he isn’t sly, he doesn’t hide, he is utterly and absolutely OUT there. He’s not interested in ‘taking you down’ (what a bizarre remark; almost paranoid) – he wants you to EMBRACE the failings of the dogs you claim to love and want to protect, and to work to put things right. Is it acceptable to YOU that so many fellow Americans are slaughtered by these dogs annually? So far, Pit Bulls have killed 23 of the 31 dead so far from dog attack. 12 children; 7 of them slain by their ‘pet’ Pit Bulls. Is that okay with you? Really? You are right that he feels sad, though. He has lost his only child. Encountering ugly personal attack from people like yourself has done NOTHING but strengthen him. He will NOT let Dax die in vain.
Oh Lesley. I just don’t even have the time for you. You are as crazy as the rest .. just a little more well spoken. Dax would not die in vain if Jeff would work towards ACTUAL responsible pet ownership. That isn’t his goal. His goal is to kill any dog he thinks is a pit bull. Including mastiffs, boxers and lets not forget the lab/retriever mix they decided would be a pit bull if you shaved it’s hair because it had a square head.
Yes, he wants to take us down with him He wants us all to suddenly jump up and say “Oh my yes, you are correct, my dog is a potential killer..I shall run out RIGHT NOW and have him euthanized. Oh wait, that will take too long and he may kill someone in the process, so I’ll just shoot him”. That is the ONLY thing that would make him happy..except it won’t. Because again, it’s his own guilt eating away at him, and nothing is going to take that away.
Not even being baptized and becoming a born again Christian.
And people like you are nothing but enablers that keep him wallowing in that self pity. It’s not about Dax..not at the crux of it. It’s about Jeff and his own miserable existance.
A lot of people have lost children. And many of them have lost them in horrific ways. They don’t deal with it by going after millions of innocent people who had nothing to do with the situation. .
You have invented a rich vein of fantasy about Jeff, I’ll give you that. If that keeps you warm at night, then so be it. But know this, you are wrong. Deeply and tragically wrong. He is not interested in the deaths of dogs – BSL does not mean the deaths of dogs. The ONLY dogs that die following successful implementation of BSL are the dogs whose owners REFUSE to abide by the law; ergo, they refuse to spay/neuter, they refuse to register their Pit Bulls, etc. Good BSL does NOT kill dogs. As for others who have lost children, let us STAY with the subject in hand please. People, including children, killed by DOGS. Predominantly Pit Bull dogs.
I believe even pits caught or reported at large in bsl areas whos owners refused to register their dogs, have the choice to move or re-home them outside the bsl jurisdiction, rather then have them pts.
Quite; there are always options, always.
But bucking against the law and behaving in a bullish and truculently defensive way, is the domain of the Pit Bull owner.
What will die is the breeding of pit bulls. THAT is who the fight is from in my opinion; the breeders (and the dog fighters)
It is a fact that pit bulls and pit bull mixes are responsible for the majority of severe maulings and deaths of both people and pets than any other type of dog. The latest tragedy in Modesto, CA this week with one person dead and another in critical condition is only the latest atrocity.
Pit bull mixes are legal in Aurora Beth.
I was responding to this, ColoRADogs: “That while there are many common factors in dog attacks/fatalities, breed is not on of them.”
It is not. There is empirical, peer reviewed data that show that statement to be true.
Explain away the ghastly PREDOMINANCE of fatalities caused by Pit Bulls this year alone, please. You have been given the names, the localities of the victims, and the types of dogs that killed them, including dogs NOT Pit Bulls. Explain.
One can find empirical peer reviewed data from either side, depending which side they’re on. What’s best is to research the topic. Most news coverage of maulings and fatalities include photos of the offending dogs.
there is NOT “peer reviewed data from either side”. There is NO peer reviewed data that supports breed bans or the notion that “pit bulls” (whatever that term means) are more dangerous than dogs that look a different way. If you’re referring to the laughable notion that Merritt Clifton’s writing about this is issue is “peer reviewed”, you would be very very wrong
There is peer reviewed scientific data that banning dangerous breeds reduces hospitalizations due to dog bites. Pit bull advocates persistently claim that BSL does not make communities safer with no basis for this claim. As much as pit bull apologists try to deflect from the real issue – serious maulings, maimings, and deaths – by talking about bites and equating a single puncture wound with an amputation, people must keep in mind that BSL has been found time and time and time again to reduce serious injuries requiring hospitalization which is the goal of BSL. And two peer reviewed studies show that banning dangerous breeds DOES in fact reduce or eliminate serious injury due to dog bites.
Effectiveness of Breed-Specific Legislation in Decreasing the Incidence of Dog-Bite Injury Hospitalisations in People in the Canadian Province of Manitoba, by Malathi Raghavan, Patricia J Martens, Dan Chateau, and Charles Burchill, Injury Prevention, Published Online First, June 30, 2012. https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389.full
+ Decline in Hospitalisations Due to Dog Bite Injuries in Catalonia, 1997–2008. An Effect of Government Regulation?, by Joan R Villalbi, Montse Cleries, Susana Bouis, Víctor Peracho, Julia Duran and Conrad Casas, Injury Prevention, 2010;16:408-410.
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/16/6/408.abstract
And in depth look at the pit bull ban in city of Pawtucket RI shows that in the same time period where pit bull fatal and maiming attacks have been skyrocketing across the country, those same types of attacks have plummeted in Pawtuckett.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/09/dramatic-decline-in-attacks-by-pit-bulls-since-pawtucket-pit-bull-ban.html
In addition cities and municipalities across the US have reported that BSL works, enforceable and affordable.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/06/cities-with-successful-pit-bull-laws.html
https://www.animals24-7.org/2014/10/07/three-pit-bull-stories-to-chew-on/
Ontario ban succeeding
The second story, from Toronto, Ontario, is a report, and its editorial aftermath, in the Toronto Star regarding the success of Ontario’s 2005 province- wide
pit bull ban, the first large- scale anti- pit- bull law of its type on this continent–– although, as the Star pointed out, “It’s a misnomer to call it a ban.
Hundreds of pit bulls remain in Toronto. The legislation forbids their breeding and importation; it requires them to be neutered, and they must be
leashed and muzzled when appearing in public.”
The numbers are in, and they are very damning for pit bulls. [2] As noted in their follow- up editorial, “In 2004, the last full year before the ban, there were
984 licensed pit bulls in the city and 168 reported bites. Last year there were 501 pit bulls registered in Toronto, and just 13 bites. That’s right — the number
of reported bites went from 168 to 13.”[3] The Comment editor of Canada’s National Post newspaper, Jonathan Kay, applauded the Star’s findings and
firmly criticized diehard activists in favor of repealing the ban. [4] He critiqued them for their false beliefs “as defenders of what they naively regard as the
doggie world’s misunderstood but adorable bad boys.” And he scolded them for the absurdity of their identification of breed bans with racism, “an argument
that is both incorrect and insulting to the victims of real racism.”
The bigger- picture takeaway here is that in spite of their volubility, “awareness” days, blogger obsessives and endless online galleries of infant- kissing, tutu- clad pit bulls, activists are not influencing the rational elites of mainstream society. Responsible observers of different political persuasions in two out
of Canada’s three national newspapers (editorially, the Toronto Star is left- wing, the National Post right of centre) still look to objective evidence in making
up their minds. When the evidence points irrefutably in one direction, they are not deflected by emotive kitsch. (And, as an aside, when it is left up to
ordinary people to decide, common sense usually favors bans. [5])
PLEASE do not obfuscate with the ‘what’s a Pit Bull’ game. It is so very tedious and dishonest.
We ALL know what a Pit Bull is, what it was created by man FOR, what it is still being created by man for, what it has done to people and other animals, and what it will CONTINUE to do to people and other animals, until it is brought barking and growling into the full light of public scrutiny and disenchantment.
The ONLY people who resolutely refuse to recognise a Pit Bull Dog is a Pit Bull OWNER or a Pit Bull Protectionist. No-one else has any trouble. However, take that SAME dog unrecognised as a Pit Bull Dog, and find it on ANOTHER day barking at a fire and ‘saving its family’, or ‘attacking a would-be rapist’, and there it is… ‘he is a Pit Bull again! America’s dog! Our sweet Pittie! Nothing better than a Pit Bull! His line goes right back to Sgt Stubby!’ (Well, I made that last claim up, about Sgt Stubby, but people will catch my drift).
If you have a Pit Bull, if you love a Pit Bull, if you rescue a Pit Bull, if you are part of the Pit Bull advocacy, OWN ALL THAT IT MEANS, BOTH GOOD AND BAD.
These nutters don’t even know what “peer reviewed” means. They think if a pit bull advocacy group repeats what another pit bull advocacy group says, that its been “peer reviewed”. SMH
These people hide behind fake names and try to spew their lies.
Please cite the peer-reviewed data that proves your statement, ColoRADogs.
Smoking crack and making up stats is not peer reviewed data, fyi
It is the eternal and unlikely optimism of the Pit Bull protectionists, Jim.
The more times they parrot a few phrases, bandy around a couple of reams of ‘data’, offer up a glom of blogs and reviews and dilly-dolly-daydreams written by home-grown dog experts and whisperers…. the more it all seems excitingly REAL – this idea of how to turn the joyously ferocious, blood sport, game dog with the Bulldog jaws and the dual-nature that has so many fooled… the happy, goofy, licky-licker that poses for a thousand pictures with their human children, the fun-loving, exuberant, tongue-hanging, face-smiling Fighting Bull Dog who can turn in a heartbeat from kisser to killer, from player to slayer, from dog to destroyer.
Yes, the more they breathe the dream of the normal pet dog over the furrowed brows of their Pit Fighting Dogs, the more chance perhaps that one fine day, it will all come true, and the Pit Fighting Dogs will just give up the ghosts of their purposeful genetic ferocity, and there will be no more dead children, no more decapitated babies, no more dead pet dogs, no more eviscerated pet cats, no more disembowelled horses, no more funerals, no more petitions, no more media pleas for help with surgical costs for faces mutilated beyond realistic repair, no more embarrassing news reports about fresh attacks… no more…..
Only life is not like that. And dreaming is for dreamers.
pro pitbull advocates are the lowest scum of the earth. They have no respect for victims at all. They will lthreatend, denigrate and belittle victims and show up to PROTEST truth at a victims memorial. These people and their dogs are not welcome additions to any community. Here they protested and disrespected the dead, in September of 2014 including many children that were killed by pitbulls, at a canine fatality victims memorial in Grand Rapids Michigan called out of the Blue.
They removed the artists literature and put PRO PIT BULL PROPAGANDA alongside the exhibits.
These exhibits commemorated brutally slain American children, as well as innocent adults. AND it commemorated ALL of the victims of ALL fatal dog attacks, not just Pit Bulls!
It was a dark day for Pit Bull advocacy, when these menacing, brutish, disrespectful thugs rolled into town with their examples of the dogs that had ended the lives of their fellow Americans.
https://woodtv.com/2014/09/28/pit-bull-owners-protest-at-dog-attack-artprize-entry/ They protest truth and dance and hang out on the memorials of the deceased. They block the exhibit so families can’t come and people can’t learn the truth. These “advocates” are the lowest and most inconsiderate beings on earth. They don’t respect freedom of speech or the lives of humans or pets. Don’t let them bully Colorado. Bans are humane, sane, intelligent, and effective.
“Bans are humane, sane, intelligent, and effective.” And lethal Jalony. <<<<< here is a perfect example of a dog hating foamer.
Jalony, you are one of the worst foamers out there and have a lot of nerve trying to get that AC officer fired when she was there on HER DAY OFF. And aren’t you the one who had the not so brilliant idea of selling bloody dolls on Ebay not too long ago? All you do is sprout the dbo crap of lies and expect us all to just sit back and let it go. Sorry, I just can’t. I will keep on posting against you dog haters as long as it takes to get the truth out there.
As a public servant, tax payers pay her salary. Rachel Jensen should be fired for her unethical behavior. Not to mention her obvious support for BULLY BREEDS aka. pit bull dogs which some may argue inhibits her from making an objective decision on the disposition of any dog.
You pit bull advocates are improving! Normally the canned sympathies for the pit bull victim are limited to 5-7 words, then you folks launch into a LONG screed defending pit bulls. This time you actually managed to create three whole sentences to show sympathy before the usual, very long defense of pit bulls.
There may be hope for you guys yet!
We are genuine in our response AJ. We’re sorry if you have become so jaded you can’t see that. But stand by the fact that thousands of dogs loosing their lives because of this tragedy is not Colorado dog owner’s burden to bear. We’d also like to point out that Dax was attacked by two pit bull mixes (the vet records say boxer mix). Pit bull mixes are and have been legal in Aurora for several years now along with American Bulldogs.
They were Pit Bulls. And loved ones too. Please stop obfuscating.
Pits are losing their lives because of pit defenders, not the other way around. You guys lie about pits and indirectly cause all these attacks. You are the pit bull’s enemy.
Gee Harve, now you are calling us all liars. Most pit bull owners are good owners that are under attack by groups like dogsbite.org. I find it truly sad that you can even say that we are to blame when all we want is to keep our very loved family members alive. Another thing Harve, if we don’t fight for them, who will?
I’m relatively new to the fight for victims of dangerous dog attacks, but one thing I have noticed in my short time advocating: pit bull defenders do not care about human or even other animal victims; they throw small dogs under the bus in their efforts to defend pits, and they ridicule victims of pit bull attacks and their children. I have seen it and have made screen captures of it.
Do you also have screen captures of the DBO members wishing injury and death to innocent children and people that own pit bulls? If not, I can provide those to you.
‘DBO members’??? What are they? DogsBite.org is an open Facebook Community PAGE? One cannot be a ‘member’ of it! Please do grow up.
Ok, Lesley. I can reword that and say BSL advocates are constantly advocating for injury and death to innocent children and people that own pit bulls. Better?
No, it’s absolutely TERRIBLE – deeply offensive and hideously untrue.
You must keep very bad company.
I want nothing to do with such ideas, and neither do 99.9% of those whose goals and ideals I share.
But if we are talking about vitriol and despicable behaviour from people, we need look no further than Pit Bull owners and advocates. I have literally lost count of the times I have received death threats by personal message; how many times I have been told ‘hope you don’t reproduce’; been called a ‘c*nt’ (usually by other so-called women); how I should have ‘dripped down my mother’s leg’; and of course my very favourite of all – the personal message offering to sodomise my young son.
Oh, and the one from the Pit Bull owner who misunderstood my posts, thought I was a parent bereaved by a Pit Bull attack, and who then proceeded to send me a personal message offering to spit on my child’s grave.
And I know that most of us get messages like that, over and over and over again.
I have never met such sick, deviant, revolting and inhuman people as those that own Pit Bulls and/or advocate for them.
I have received similar hate mail, Lesley. Wishing my dog would rip my face off, calling me a m’fer, trailer trash, that I have a ticket straight to hell, and saying my dog is a baby killer when the people have no idea if I even own a dog. Would you like to see the screenshots, Lesley? I have about 10 of them still sitting in my Inbox.
Yep I have plenty of my own as well
A.J. how totally stupid are you? Of course we care about any victim, but that is not a reason to decimate a whole breed of dog (s), off of the face of the earth. Besides that, it’s wrong.
Why do pit advocates always resort to personal insults when debating this issue? Why do you folks have such low impulse control? Hey! Just like the dogs you revere!
Why the need for personal insults? That seems to be typical with pit advocates. Why? A dog breed is an artificial construct. It was created by man, and can be uncreated by being allowed to die out. Breeds do not feel any pain when they are allowed to disappear.
This message is addressed to all the pit lobbyists putting their two cents in. Until you have lost a loved one or even a friend to a pit bull attack please don’t even pretend to know the extent of what that feels like. Your phony sympathy and false condolences are worthless as you push your unbalanced and dangerous dogs on the public, who by the way are onto your deceitful tactics. Aurora does not even have a ban, but reasonable constraints have been placed on people who engage in choosing risky lifestyles including having high risk aggressive dog breeds. You will lose in Aurora and the public will choose their own safety over your freedom to own fighting dogs.
https://www.animals24-7.org/2014/10/14/aurora-colorado-reject-risk-taking-pit-bull-advocates-attempt-to-gamble-with-your-lives-and-the-lives-of-your-animals/
Are any of you from Colorado by chance?
As you have been advised, this is more than just a Colorado issue; this is AN AMERICAN TRAGEDY.
And it merits better coverage and outrage than it has been getting.
Is the dead child of Alabama LESS important to you, simply because he was not killed by a COLORADEAN PIT BULL?
All people are important to us. We suggest you re-read our original post. Again, baiting is not our thing. Oh and it’s spelled Coloradan, or Coloradoan depending. Please know how to spell our citizens designation.
Please stop accusing people of being someone they are not. 🙂
What difference does that make? We care about victims all over the world.
Only if the victim was injured by a pit bull type dog. No other dog bite victims even get a mention, let alone any attention and sympathy.
You are wrong. I am astonished at such a claim. ALL serious dog bites are reported on DogsBite, for example. ALL victims get our sympathy. You CANNOT get upset simply because other dog breeds or types are not delivering up the victims in the same quantities as the Pit Bulls are doing!
State lines should not dictate who gets information about the dangers of pit bulls.
Half my family is.
Here’s hoping they are not as racist and homophobic as you AJ. You really should set that profile to private.
Again, personal attack is not your friend. Be better than this, for the sake of the dogs you want to protect and promote.
It is not personal. It is a fact based on previous postings Lesley. It’s important to have your information before commenting.
To go to someone’s Facebook account, looking for things to hijack them with, on a forum like this, is personal, abusive and tacky.
Again, you let yourself AND your advocacy down.
Lesley- Stop baiting and go look at the discus profiles and comment histories. That is where it is, and all of us have one. Again, information before commenting.
Considering I am of a mixed background, I don’t see where the “racist” charges are coming from. And I’m not afraid of anyone, so I don’t know where the “homophobia” charge comes from either (“phobos” is Greek for “fear of”.)
I’m not afraid of anyone, hence, no “homophobia” here. And being of a mixed background myself, your “racist” comment puzzles me.
I have friends in Colorado. I have already warned them. Your welcome.
Jeff Borchardt was also sent a message saying ‘let’s use Dax’s head as a football – he don’t need it – he dead – LMAO’.
And those kinds of messages are NOT rare.
The hatred for those who dare to speak the truth, is intense and it is GHASTLY.
Neither Jeff Borchardt or Colleen Lynn offer ‘disinformation’. Let the dead and the mutilated speak for themselves.
Pit Bull dogs and their heinous owners are utterly out of control. They refuse to understand the dogs, they refuse to embrace the horrific failings of the dogs, they turn away from those killed by them by pretending that there is no such thing as a Pit Bull (yet when one does something vaguely ‘heroic’, it is a Pit Bull), they blame the victims both dead or alive, they rescue Pit Bulls that are NOT salvageable, preferring to throw thousands of dollars at man-biting Pit Bulls rather than supporting the VICTIMS of these animals, they claim over and over again that Chihuahuas are more dangerous than Pit Bulls because they simply will NOT understand the differences between a bite and a Band-Aid and a mutilating injury that may leave you in a body bag or on a life-flight helicopter; they openly promote these child-killing dogs as ‘nanny dogs’; they bombard towns and cities that are trying to protect the members of the public by either introducing or KEEPING Pit Bull specific legislations, and most importantly of all, they absolutely REFUSE to countenance the TRUTH that Pit Bull Legislation is not ‘racist’ or ‘breedist’, not when it is PIT BULLS that are doing by far and away the most damage, including causing human fatalities, of all the dog breeds or types in America today!
SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. We cannot keep soaking up these deaths as though they were meaningless. Faulty cribs have been recalled for less deaths than this!
Since WHEN has become acceptable for a person to own a dog that is of a breed KNOWN to be highly dangerous and to cause more fatalities than all other breeds of dogs combined, and to INFLICT that dog on a whole community, and the family home that may contain innocent children in it.
It is absolutely clear that change will not come from within. These wilfully obstinate and devious people will NOT face any facts, and they will continue to wreak havoc until they are stopped by a combination of public outrage and legislative means.
Jeff Borchardt’s message in that newspaper is a means of communicating the TRUTH to the public that quite frankly should be a whole lot MORE outraged than it is at the moment.
This is not just about Colorado or any other single area; this is about America, and how Americans are being slaughtered and mutilated by a DOG, a creature that is supposed to be a pet, a companion, and a comfort to us.
23 dead Americans so far this year 2014, KILLED BY PIT BULLS – 12 of them American children – 7 of those children killed by ‘pet’ Pit Bulls. ALL OTHER BREEDS AND TYPES OF DOGS COMBINED HAVE KILLED 4 AMERICANS.
FACT.
Can we see proof of that? We know what is being claimed by Jeff but as yet see nothing to verify it. It would be reprehensible if someone did that and we would condemn it. Feel free to email us the content and we will speak out strongly the moment we receive proof.
Well I can offer you proof that DBO participants, of which Mr Borchart is one, encourage people to adopt out pit bulls and then take them to be euthanized, and allege to have vet statements verifying the deaths. So who’s the hater? who are the killers?
What is a ‘DBO participant’ please? It is an open page; ‘liking’ a Facebook page does not make one a ‘participant’??? If what you say is true, that is not something the majority of us would care to either hear about or DO. Again, this is not about hatred. We find most of the hatred is INCOMING, once a Pit Bull owner has been upset because of the truth being revealed! It is no use hating DogsBite purely because you didn’t want a Pit Bull attack or kill reported about! DogsBite cannot INVENT attacks and kills from other dog breeds, although when they happen, they ARE covered. Hating and killing is NOT the remit of those who stand up for victims and who know that BSL is entirely right. The worst killers of Pit Bulls are Pit Bull owners who refuse to spay/neuter their animals, who home-breed from them, who do not approach their councils for mandatory spay/neuter, and who sit back moaning about ‘haters’ and ‘DBO participants’ whilst a MILLION Pit Bulls and their unwanted, dangerous mixes are euthanized in Shelters all over America!! NOW who are the TRUE killers????
actually they DO invent attacks… by calling any attack by a dog with short hair and a blocky head a “pit bull”, even if it’s a boxer or a mastiff or mixed breed
prove that.
How about if YOU prove that ANY dog that has killed anyone is a registered purebred APBT or AST or SBT? What exactly is a “pit bull”? It’s ONLY any dog “with the appearance of” these actual breeds… which makes the whole concept of assessing dogbites by breed not only useless, but fallacious. There is nothing accurate that can be said about dogs “with the appearance of” 3 breeds that most people can’t actually identify (several recent studies have demonstrated the inability of even “experts” to identify dog breeds accurately). If you want to kill every dog with a square head and short hair (as it seems you do), you’re going to be killing a lot of dogs. Which perhaps is your end goal.
Just because you can’t identify a pit bull doesn’t mean the rest of the world can’t. https://thetruthaboutpitbulls.blogspot.com/2011/04/find-pit-bull.html
Most pit bulls are not registered; that doesn’t change what they are, or their ability to be recognizable. I can only assume by your statement of “killing a lot of dogs”, that you mean bsl. If so, bsl doesn’t kill dogs, it grandfathers existing pits in. If owners don’t wish to register their pits and follow whatever restrictions (which they should be doing anyway) which might include S/N, leash length, secure fencing, insurance etc, then they are free to rehome their pit out of the area. I believe even when scofflaws pits are found at large and impounded, they are still given the option to move them out of the bsl area first.
LOL – you are obfuscating again!
We will wait patiently (as one must when something is impossible to provide) for PROOF of your allegations about DogsBite.
🙂
I myself can’t think of any group of dog that has a square or blocky head other than a pit bull type dog or a mix thereof. Not herding dogs, pointers, retrievers, hounds, sporting dogs…
tell that to all the Lab mixes that get killed for being “pit bulls”
Labs mixed with what? And where are all these Lab mixes being killed? Perhaps it is more an issue of over-breeding – after all, if TWO sets of owners are stupid and irresponsible enough to allow a full Labrador mate with a Pit Bull dog, then one could reasonably assume it is more a matter of permitting the conception and births of unwanted puppies – fated from the get-go by ignorant owners and a public that do NOT want to adopt a Pit Bull/Lab Mix from a dog shelter.
I can’t either. Who ARE these poor block-headed dogs? They should be put forward as a new breed, I think. The Blockheads. It can be a new category – ‘Pit Bull Whipping Boy’.
If it is being called a Pit Bull by its owner, by the victim’s family, by attending ACOs, by attending cops, by neighbours of both victim and owner, by pathology reports at post mortem from the vets…. did you want it to be the ubiquitous Chihuahua? Or some sort of vague ‘mutt’ or ‘mongrel’, or maybe a Lab Mix? Yes, we have ALL seen your ‘Lab Mixes’…
A Pit Bull Fighting Dog is NOT ‘just a dog’. Depending upon your stance, it has been DELIBERATELY re-shaped into MORE than a dog, or LESS than a dog. It is an animal that has been deeply removed from its origins as companion animal over hundreds of years; originating in England, the Bulldog and the (extinct) English White Terrier.
It has been bred-for-purpose over oceans of time, and is STILL being bred for NOTHING but heart-stopping and sudden violence, and a violence that is nigh-on impossible to stop once it commences. The dog that has been created by MAN to KILL other dogs. The dog that is no longer permitted (legally) to fight other dogs – robbed of its purposeful work, WHY is anyone surprised when a Pit Bull dog switches its astonishingly ferocious genetics on in the face of an innocent child, or a pregnant woman, or a tiny pet dog on a tram, or a disabled man in his wheelchair, or a woman out for an evening walk, or an elderly greyhound trying to leave a dog park with its owner, or a little boy playing on his bike outside his own home?
A dog that cannot guard effectively (too violent), cannot herd (will attack and mutilate livestock), cannot retrieve (hard mouthed and greedy), cannot work the earth (is not a terrier but a Fighting Bulldog), cannot be given any degree of trust with the safety of its owner (they randomly attack and KILL the owners that they love); cannot ‘nanny’ any child with a heartbeat (they kill more children per annum than all other dog breeds or types)… It is good for NOTHING but the violent activities of yesteryear – dog-fighting and bringing down large livestock in the open field for butchery. It is a confused, voracious Fighting Bulldog from days gone by, and it has NO place in polite civilised society, except perhaps as a fancy, a speciality, an Extreme Breed dog requiring specialist permits to own one.
It is also VERY good for those with the inclination to take a gut-wrenching gamble of the very worst kind; those people who think they can HOPE and DREAM their Pit Bull Fighting Dog into a trusted, loyal and loving family pet. And of course, every Pit Bull dog is a lovely family pet until or unless…. Some gamble! Gambles that are made on the faces and throats of the innocent children in the family, and by the safety and happiness of all those who must live around that animal!
We need to remember the days when children were able to play outside without fear of Pit Bull attack. When a little boy or girl could ride their bike without attracting a savage maul or worse from a Pit Bull. When a woman could take a walk in her neighbourhood, when a jogger could run without a Pit Bull taking him down like prey, when miniature donkeys and Alpaca could be left in the paddocks without their owners finding them in the morning with their throats torn out, their lips eaten, their legs shredded to the bone, their ears removed, and some of them still ALIVE in that condition, when people could sit with their little old pet dogs on their own porches, and know that no Pit Bull was going to come bursting through the fence and decapitate the harmless little dog. We need to remember what a dog IS.
And if it needs crating, if it needs containment, if it needs muzzling, if it needs putting into a room when you have visitors, if you have to watch it for every SECOND it is around your child (and so you should be), if it attracts so much unease and dislike, if it has become SO unpopular that it needs hordes of protectionists and hundreds of fake ‘hero Pit Bull stories’, if a MILLION OF THEM DIE IN SHELTERS ANNUALLY, UNWANTED, then it is NOT a ‘pet dog’. It has become the elephant in the room, only THIS elephant is America’s man/child/woman-killing Canine.
People need to set their sights higher, want better things for their children, be safer in their own homes, choose NORMAL dog breeds. These dogs are not like other dogs; they are not supposed to BE like other dogs. People forget this. At their own peril.
Please provide a LINK to back up such a spurious allegation! Anyone can just post and run; that does not make it true. Provide PROOF.
Oh no, that is the trick of the pit community in an attempt to make the victim advocates look bad. One of several attempts to do that. It was your people who did this, not ours. Your people hacked accounts.
right……pat. pit bull advocates hacked dbo’s accounts.
this is one of YOUR associates, pat.
I got the same hate message from one of you nutters claiming I was the one behind it. What are you nutters doing, accusing everyone?
that is really creepy….I mean I knew the pit bull hater cult was mean but never expected this.
Here’s another one that the pit community tries to tie into DBO but they were discovered. The “National Kill a Pitbull Day” messages were part of an anonymous prank aimed at Slater, Missouri, councilman Terry Jordan, who earlier in 2012 was instrumental in developing a pet animal ordinance for that city. Although the final version of Jordan’s legislation altered the original focus upon the pit bull breed into a non-breed specific vicious dog ordinance, early drafts had singled out pit bulls. Jordan thereby drew the ire of local pit bull lovers, one of whom apparently decided to exact revenge by spreading word that Jordan was sponsoring a “National Kill a Pitbull Day” scheduled for Halloween 2012.
Read more at https://www.snopes.com/critters/cruelty/pitbull.asp#86FeVrj0I0gLXf01.99https://www.snopes.com/critters/cruelty/pitbull.asp
What about the “Global Dirt Nap Day” Facebook event that a BSL advocate created. “Promoting the dirt napping of known dangerous dogs.” I have the screenshots of people “joining” which included Colleen Lynn, Lucy Muir, Brad White, Carol Miller, and many more.
I saw that page. It looked like a spoof page; a page for dark humour. Not to be taken seriously, unless of course you WANTED to take it seriously in order to make people look bad? After all, YOU should understand the appeal of ‘dark humoured’ pages on Facebook, shouldn’t you? What about all those hilarious ‘Foamer’ page that you and your ilk LOVE to make jokey, snide asides on? And pages with names like ‘Foamer Tw*ts and Hag-Bags’, and personal-attack pages about Colleen Lynn? WE don’t take YOU seriously, on those pages. We know a good joke when we see one. 🙂
You know the BSL advocate that runs that disgusting page, Lesley and it is not a “spoof page”. In fact, they have posted a new event: Hosted by Inside the Dark Dark Sick Minds
Friday, October 24 at 8:32pm
William G. Milliken State Park
Detroit
Join us for pit on the spit,juicy slow roasted pit.
The person you mention is NOTHING to do with me.
However, if I can see the stupid dark satire in that ‘Join us for Pit on the Spit’, how is it that YOU can not? Do you really think that any of us are going to net a Pit Bull, kill it, and then slow-roast it? Really? Or is it that this desperation of yours so badly WANTS it to be true.
Yes.
The reason I cannot see the “satire” in that is because I see BSL advocates talking about poisoning innocent dogs on a daily basis. I see BSL advocates rejoicing when they read a story about a dog being shot or stabbed. “Mary Ann Redfern – Every single time I read a pit bull was shot, stabbed, euthanized, run over I CLAP OUT LOUD, FIST PUMP, AND YELL WITH SHEER JOY.”
This is Lesley hoping for death to a dog owner:
Lesley Karen Luscombe I
enjoyed my efforts. Words are so beautiful. I hope that flabby bag of
maggot-ooze suffers from spontaneous combustion in a public place, and
soon.”
October 15 at 12:09pm
But I’m sure the AFF and their affiliate, NCRC are in there trying to get the repeal, so I guess it’s ok if folks from other states (like NY) lobby Colorado’s government and try to influence constituents as long as they’re on your side? Interesting…
No they aren’t. It is local groups leading the charge. We have asked them, and they have respected, our rights as Colorado citizens to address this issue. Now for DBO and Jeff….
Ah, I believe you too… Wait. No I don’t.
Your prerogative of course Suzanne. You should perhaps speak to your own community if you are so concerned.
I do. Right now I’m concerned about Colorado though.
Why Suzanne? I think Colorado can have this discussion about their own communities.
I’m sure you’d love to have no other voice in their pitchin’…
We’d love to have all voices in Colorado discussing this issue.
I heard that ColoRADogs is none other than Jane Berkey herself from the pro pit bull Animal Farm Foundation. Nice try of trying to pretend you are local.
Hi Brad-
More untruths. My name is Nancy Tranzow. I am the Founder.
Remember when you lie, you lose credibility.
And yet it was okay to call me someone I am not?
Methinks thou art a tad conflicted, Nance. 🙂
Nancy rocks (y)
Nancy Rocks!
“Innocent lives of family pets”? Where does that come from? Besides what about the innocent lives of those being ripped apart by pit bulls? What about those lives? Don’t try to play sweet here, we’ve all seen the representatives of the pit community at their finest, telling people such as Jeff that it is all his fault his son is dead. He has those comments recorded for all to see the absolute hatefulness that normally comes after each and every attack. Misinformation, my foot. You can only wish it were misinformation. Borchardt and Lynn can mop the floor with your information.
We’ve seen Bogart lying to his friends and fellow BSL advocates about being a DJ at an event for returning troops in August, 2014, when in fact, the troop returned in 2005. We’ve seen Bogart lie about being the DJ at an event this month, which he was not. Being caught in lies ruins a person’s credibility.
I’m confused on how that – true or not- has any bearing on the fact that pit bulls kill more people than all breeds combined? People research and find that same fact for themselves everyday, usually after they have a dog mauled or killed.
It isn’t true, just more baseless accusations.
Here’s the good science:
Pit bull advocates persistently claim that BSL does not make communities safer with no basis for this claim. As much as pit bull apologists try to deflect from the real issue – serious maulings, maimings, and deaths – by talking about bites and equating a single puncture wound with an amputation, people must keep in mind that BSL has been found time and time and time again to reduce serious injuries requiring hospitalization which is the goal of BSL. And two peer reviewed studies show that banning dangerous breeds DOES in fact reduce or eliminate serious injury due to dog bites.
Effectiveness of Breed-Specific Legislation in Decreasing the Incidence of Dog-Bite Injury Hospitalisations in People in the Canadian Province of Manitoba, by Malathi Raghavan, Patricia J Martens, Dan Chateau, and Charles Burchill, Injury Prevention, Published Online First, June 30, 2012. https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389.full
+Decline in Hospitalisations Due to Dog Bite Injuries in Catalonia, 1997–2008. An Effect of Government Regulation?, by Joan R Villalbi, Montse Cleries, Susana Bouis, Víctor Peracho, Julia Duran and Conrad Casas, Injury Prevention, 2010;16:408-410.
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/16/6/408.abstract
And in depth look at the pit bull ban in city of Pawtucket RI shows that in the same time period where pit bull fatal and maiming attacks have been skyrocketing across the country, those same types of attacks have plummeted in Pawtuckett.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2013/09/dramatic-decline-in-attacks-by-pit-bulls-since-pawtucket-pit-bull-ban.html
In addition cities and municipalities across the US have reported that BSL works, enforceable and affordable.
https://blog.dogsbite.org/2010/06/cities-with-successful-pit-bull-laws.html
LOL!
Explain; do not just ‘lol’ like a teenager and then bolt.
Explain.
“Mr Borchardt tried to have family pets banned in his home town” – this is the kind of complete nonsense we’ve come to expect from pit bull promoters. Borchardt is a dog lover with dogs of his own, which rather damages your credibility, or it would, if it weren’t already in a shambles for so many other reasons. No, what Borchardt attempted to do in his home town is to regulate responsible ownership of specific types of dangerous dogs – namely those of a type which was created to torture animals for sport, and has a track record of sudden, random, violent, relentless and unprovoked attacks unlike any other, the type you can not identify, namely pit bull type dogs.
‘Sudden, random, violent, relentless, unprovoked’…. It makes a decent person shudder.
And they have the sheer nerve to compare THAT to the bite of their favourite whipping-boy, the Chihuahua.
I’ve physically seen many of the disgusting emails they’ve sent. The ones he’s chosen to put out there publicly at least…the ones so vile,I’ve seen them and they are assuredly from other people. Some even former friends sadly.
It’s typical of you and others to assume he’s yanking anyone’s chains. After every attack,you all want your “proof”. You refuse to face facts that these dogs are indeed killing and maiming. The dead do not lie. The doctors,ER attendants,first responders, do not lie…they know what they see coming in. Talk to the funeral directors,they know why many of those caskets have to be closed and no viewings! While you consistently DENY, human beings and other small pets DIE
pitbull advocates don’t give a hoot about victims. Nice try. Ask anyone to google the Pitbull Protest in Grand Rapids Michigan. They laughed and danced on the victims memorial like the scum of the earth.
Hi Joanie- Are you still auctioning off dolls covered in blood to represent children attacked by dogs on ebay?
Personal attack again. Will this help your cause? Will this present YOU in a positive light, as a Pit Bull Advocate?
Again, not personal. Factual and goes to the credibility of the person speaking Lesley. I am horribly sorry if that upsets you in some manner.
I don’t do upset. As I think you can pretty well surmise.
Whatever else it is, truth or otherwise, it IS a personal attack.
Perhaps YOU could come out from behind your ‘ColoRADogs’ persona, and show us all who YOU really are?
🙂
He manages a pit rescue. Actually I think it’s a 3rd party middle man for pit bull adoptions as last time I recall he said he had no pit dogs but advertised them on his “rescue” site.
When you are lobbying for laws and trying to sway votes, I’d call that political. Jeff has been a vocal supporter of BSL, and yeah, I understand his reasons. It’s tragic what happened to his son. It’s not MY fault. It’s not MY dogs fault. Nor is it the fault of the millions of other “pit bull type” dog owners who have dogs that haven’t hurt anyone.
He will source “DBO” for his statement. Well, they aren’t a reliable source either as has been proven over and over.
Freedom of speech is one thing. Paying a paper to print lies that are NOT supportable is something else altogether. Something Denver doesn’t seem to give much care about.
It’s sad to me that Colorado (Denver and Aurora in particular) are so backwards. I used to be so proud of my home state…I have a tough time saying that these days.
‘(DogsBite.org) is not a reliable source either as has been proven over and over’.
Please provide PROOF of what you are claiming!
It is simply not good enough to make such spurious remarks without showing everyone here what you mean. DogsBite.org will ALWAYS put any error that it has made, right. It PRIDES itself on accuracy. Do you not understand that?
Now let us see your PROOF.
I do not understand how police report victims accounts and death records of the 31 people killed this year by dangerous dog breeds, 27 of them being by Pitbull and pitbull mixes can be called unfounded. Anyone in their right mind, who does not have a stake in pit bull advocacy monetarily or a personal story because of their sole pitbull experience, knows that pitbull and pitbull mixes have long been a very unstable breed of dog. I applaud the people of Aurora Colorado for taking a stand against these dogs and their owners who often bully the victims and the victim’s families. Keep the ban and save lives! We are wholeheartedly sorry for the loss of Daxton Borchardt and wish to prevent further death from this breeds.
So area we which is why we want to stop focusing on pseudo solutions.
Pseudo solutions? You act as if you have total control over all of the pit pit mixes and other proven dogs. You can’t possibly control the actions of foolish and irresponsible breeders, dogfighters, irresponsible owners and dog rescues who don’t keep up with their dogs, criminals who actively train them to protect illegal operations, and other dangerous situations. You cant determine which dog from these breeds will snap and turn on their owners neighbors, dog park visitors, pet shop patrons, and which ones won’t. UNTIL YOU COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO THESE DANGEROUS SITUATIONS. UNTIL A VIABLE OPTION IS DISCOVERED. A BAN, THAT SYSTEMATICALLY WORKS WHEN ENFORCED, is the only protection. way to go AURORAS! STAND FIRM TOGETHER TO PROTECT YOUR BABY HUMANS!
psuedo aliases pft! come back when you have enough conviction in your views to own them?? alias equals fake?
spoken like a true colleen clone whatever your name is?? My question to you then,,, what about victims of non pitbulls?? are they not as dead as pitbull victims?
Yes, they are just as dead. However, there are 10 times as many people killed by pit bulls and Rottweilers, so if you want to reduce deaths, it makes sense to focus on the breeds that cause the most deaths.
Wouldn’t it make better sense to enforce leash laws, licensing laws, and make sterilization affordable to all. Inspect and license breeding operations, offering licenses according to stringent background checks just as you would a liquor license for ALL dogs.(Pit bulls are not the only dogs being overbred. There is a huge glut of Chihuahuas and smaller designer “pocketbook” dogs in the shelters out there, put down by the thousands because they’re not being adopted.) Perhaps, rather than to reduce deaths by dogs, you could eliminate them. Anyone who has animals should be responsible for any damage his animal inflicts, just as we should our minor children. My neighbor’s cow got out of the fence last week and was hit by a truck. His insurance paid for a new truck, as the owner’s truck was totaled, because it was his cow and he was responsible to keep it in. This is not rocket science. If the liability laws were enforced equally across the board you would not need breed discriminatory legislation. You would eliminate the question of breed identification, the vague language in most BSL ordinances and consequently the legal fees the town incurs in defending their actions.
Your comment, “Anyone who has animals should be responsible for any damage his animal inflicts”
Time and time again we see pit bull owners get away from the damage their pit bulls inflict. Pit bull owners are getting away with murder.
How many? How many have you actually followed up on to find out if they have taken responsibility? And what kind of responsibility are you speaking of? Financial? Legal? Do you want everyone who owns a pitbull, or a mix, or one of the many blocky headed dogs that look like a pitbull to go to jail if their dog bites anyone regardless of the circumstances? I have seen and applauded headlines that an owner was charged and convicted with second degree murder. The owners of over 5 million pitbulls in the US were glad he went to jail, because we know what it is to be responsible for our pets. Most of us also are parents, and we mourn every time we see that a child has been killed, but we raise our children and our pets to respect each other, and we supervise them. We know where they are, and they stay where they live.
You are basing a stereotype on fewer than 1/3 of 1% of the known pitbulls in the US. Yet you really want to regulate pitbull owners, if you are saying you just want them to be fiscally and legally responsible. There are laws that require all animal owners to be responsible for their pets, just as we are for our minor children. There are leash laws and dogs at large laws that need to be enforced. Most counties in the states require dogs to be licensed, and to be licensed they must be current on their shots. It is less expensive to license if the dogs are neutered, so there is incentive there. Most incorporated communities have limits on how many dogs are permitted in a household, and have annual census to ensure that it is enforced. That discourages backyard breeders. It is now a federal crime to abuse an animal, which includes leaving a dog outside rain or shine with no human contact. If these existing laws were enforced indiscriminately, all pet owners would be held responsible.
You point me to owners of pits who have publicized agreement that a pit owner is held responsible for the death or damage caused by his beast. Where are these comments? Youtube is full of reported deaths and horrific attacks, and pit owners consistently defend the breed and show no genuine empathy. Many commend the deadly work of the dog.
See above response. Add this: Why would you want to deprive the victims of non-pitbull bites of this protection by insisting on BSL for pitbulls instead of breed neutral legislation, which can be achieved simply by enforcing existing laws?
Answer my question. Don’t evade the issue of you not supporting your claims by asking me completely different questions. You’re an insincere inquirer.
How much do you research these few Youtube reports? Do you ever see any followup, any resolution to any of the reports of attacks you view or read of? Do you ever go in depth to read followups to the initial articles, to read of investigations into the attacks, the details beyond the headlines? You have seen a few graphic accounts, and you are using Youtube as a source. i have no idea how many you have seen, as that kind of violence would turn the stomachs of most. Do you think that sensational garbage is designed to inform the public, or to sell copy?
There are over 5 million pitbulls and mixes currently in the US. How many have you read of this year? Have you ever read of the hero pits, those that saved their families, or the therapy dogs, the service dogs, or do you just have your alerts set to pitbull maulings? There are many superstar pits, like those that made it out of Michael Vick’s stable, overcoming years of torture in order to make him money at fighting. Could you be forgiving enough to love another human after the abuse they went through? 47 loving family dogs out of the 51 became family pets, great family dogs and therapy dogs, and spokesmen against dog fighting. So, except for the few you have read of, well over 5 million pits have good, responsible owners and the dogs are loving family members. Do some actual research and support your own claims. I am a responsible owner, just as everyone is that I know that owns an animal. And I will ask you once again, of the 35 fatalities this year, there were 4 that were not ascribed to pits. Would you deny those victims the protection that breed neutral legislation would offer them, or do you think only pitbull owners should be held accountable? Because in pushing BSL and only BSL, you’re letting all other irresponsible owners off the hook, as well as giving citizens a false sense that they are safe because there are no pitbulls in town.
I will add one more thing, which should be obvious to one who uses the word “obfuscate”. If you are educated enough to look that word up in the dictionary, you should be educated enough to understand our justice system, which does not convict any criminal merely on the basis of a few headlines by some hack reporters. Why would you base your own determinations on them?
Don’t add one more thing, I haven’t read the other insincere comments. You never addressed my one question. You’re what’s called an insincere objector/inquirer.
Unfortunate that you haven’t read them. I suspect you fear to read anything that does not support your opinion, because your opinion is inarguable.
Just because your pit bull licked your face or sat when you told him doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous.
all dogs can be dangerous in the wrong circumstance so pls save your factless claims for family dinners unless your own family is sick of your fanatically ranting too as i suspect?
which question hasn’t been answered?? do you have a comprehension issue Marissa?
lynnf1954 – same old crap — obfuscation through inundation with questions. SCRAM
Pit bull advocates have no desire to fix the pit bull problem.
Pit bull advocates deny there is a problem… because the problem is them. Pit bulls don’t lie about what they are relative to other breeds. People want to gain significance off the bad-dog-rep-really-a-good-dog culture. See how dependent pit pushers are on the dog being bad. Why would they want the bad rep to go away, then pit culture goes away because the dog would have nothing to distinguish it. Currently it’s the biggest, badist, meanist, and that’s the attraction. They can’t get the recognition they want if they openly acknowledge that to honest policy makers. Pit owners are lazy, insignificant people without an identity apart from pit culture.
Yep, the pit bull dog identifies them. I’ve met many pit bull owners. Have not been impressed with them at all.
I was shocked at the level of violence and tenacity the pit bull dog exhibits when it “snaps”. Not any more, I’ve learned to expect it.
of course we deny there’s a “pitbull” problem because the problem isn’t pitbulls it’s dangerous dogs in general?? save your rants for kkk we all know your a fanatic?
that’s because we want to fix the foamer problem and stop all deaths and we’re not basing our actions on lies and mis information created by clifton and promoted by lynn??
What you consider to be “foamers” are not killing, pit bulls are and pit bull owners are okay with this.
wow you know some big words!! google mis information and there’s pics of lynn and clifton?
wow you know that word and yet you can’t seem to answer a simple question, “what about victims of non pitbulls?”
Go compare the fatalities of different breeds at Wikipedia if you don’t like the meticulous records at Dogsbite.org or Merritt Clifton’s outstanding record keeping. Pit type dogs kill and bite more than all breeds combined. The damage they do to their victims has been attested to by the people that have to sew them back together and reconstruct their bodies for the rest of their lives. Normal dogs don’t eat off body parts of their owners or others and refuse to leave the scene while you’re stabbing them or trying to break their spinal cord with whatever can be located before the victim dies. Hope I wowed you again. If not, here’s a link to allow you to keep up with the maulings:
Here’s that link: https://dangerousdognews.wordpress.com
Meddler Patrick Malone, you mean you want to add pit victims to “victims of non pitbulls”?
All you’re saying pit pusher Patrick Malone is that you want to ramp and rev up the death count by adding the serial killer of the dog world to the normal dog bite problem. Your smarts are so awesome, you’re really wowing me.
Pit bull advocates have no desire to fix the pit bull problem.
Marissa be saying “research” !! blink blink!! what’s that??
It’s cruel to ridicule the disadvantaged.
your a loud noise based on no substance?? answer Lynn’s question what about victims of non pitbulls?
wow you’ve betting getting lessons on foaming from lesley?? you prove your claims and then we’ll respond?? so far it’s accusation after accusation and generalization that’s all you foamers have because the facts don’t support your claims and even if they do how do dogs affect a judicial proceeding??
but isn’t that a problem with judicial process Gabi, how do dogs affect the outcome of a legal proceeding??
Smaller breed dogs are more dangerous to children and babies then a PitBull! I have own several of them thru out my life and never did any of them bite or attack a child or person! Right now I own 1 Staffordshire Bull Terrier and she has never attacked anyone and she has been around my grandkids since they were in my daughters belly and now and never harmed them! I am always with my dog and grandkids because I am a responsible owner! Stop blaming the PitBull for all the dog bites and attacks you just don’t hear about the other dog bites and attacks because of their breed and people don’t want them killed just the PitBull! And that is so very wrong when other breeds are guilty also but media never speak about it! Proud Staffordshire Bull Terrier Owner ( PitBull)!!!!!
Published: Sat, October 18, 2014
Pregnant woman’s arm left ‘HANGING by a THREAD’ after she’s attacked by her own devil dog
BRAVE soldiers scaled a razor-wire fence to save a pregnant woman whose arm was left “HANGING by a THREAD” after she was savagely mauled by her own devil dog.
“The dog is a mastiff or Staffordshire bull terrier cross. It’s huge. Like a small horse.
Not a PitBull! A Mastiff or a Great Dane are the size of a small horse not a PitBull!
More than likely it is a big pit bull or a pit bull/mastiff mix. Pit bulls are commonly crossed with mastiffs to make them more dangerous and advertised as “protective”.
of course it is or you wouldn’t be here spewing your propaganda like you own the place?
Mary – are you blaming Terry Holts’ mastiff-supersized pit bull for that attack (or one like his anyway)?
No Gabriel Barros is doing the blame game I just said that it couldn’t be a PitBull because I never seen one that was the size of a small horse! All I said that it might have been a mastiff or a great Dane because they are large dogs like small horses. I wasn’t blaming anyone I was just commenting and saying how I felt! Scroll up and read what Gabriel Barros wrote!
It’s almost always a pit bull or pit bull “mix”. Pit bulls killed 16 of the 18 children killed by dogs in 2013.
Interesting. This happened in the UK. Do you live in the UK, Gabriel? Or do you just set your scans for any stories regarding pitbull type dogs? This is agonizing for this poor woman, and apparently there have been complaints about the aggressiveness of the dog prior to this incident. I hope she recovers and that her child survived this trauma.
This is hardly a good advertisement for BSL, as pitbulls are outlawed in UK. However, this could have happened with any large dog. The victim is a small woman, obviously has not been in control of her dog and should have sought help with the animal’s behavior prior to this terrible incident.
There are over 5 million pitbulls and their crosses in the US currently. How many have you read of? less than 1/3 of 1%.
Pit bulls are outlawed in the UK and they have been practically wiped out, but the few that remain are still attacking, maiming and killing. A 6-month-old baby in England was recently murdered by an illegal American pit bull terrier and the coroner (medical examiner) rebuked the parents, saying they had “paid he ultimate price” for choosing to own a dangerous dog.
oh well here we are mr. knucklehead chiming in with his typical retorict, porpaganda laiden mis infotrmation directly from the source!! yeah I know Juno,, aussie mind your own business!! lol!! pls adorn us with some more of your wisdom, Jock?
Really? I don’t know of any children killed by any “small dog” this year. I believe most, if not all were killed by pit bulls and pit mixes. Hmmmm.
Because they never get reported because people don’t say anything when it comes to smaller breed dogs attacking or mauling or killing someone! I personally was attacked by a small dog and I never reported it! And it wasn’t a nip neither! I have never been bitten by a PitBull or attacked by a PitBull ever! Responsible owners raise well balanced and socialized PitBulls! Responsible owners take full responsibility for their PitBulls actions unless they are drug dealers or dog fighters they don’t care! We do that is why we make it very plain with signs stating that we own PitBulls and that they are on our property! No one should be on our property regardless of who they are unless they are with us the owner/owners of the house and PitBull/PitBulls period!
You’re funny.
No just keeping it real!
Your comment, “Because they never get reported because people don’t say anything when it comes to smaller breed dogs attacking or mauling or killing someone!”
Your comment does not sound real, not even close. HUE HUE HUE
But it is true! People are not going to report a dog bites from a small breed dog ! People are not going to report that a small breed dog mauled someone! They would report a PitBull or large breed dog of biting or mauling or attacking quicker than a smaller breed dog! And yes smaller breed dogs can kill children and babies because they are highly jealous you just don’t hear about it like you do when IT comes to larger breed dogs! PitBulls are not vicious animals they are made that way by the people who owns them or not properly training them or socializing them or having them fixed! PitBulls are very loving and caring and compassionate and protecting dogs! If you never had one as a family member but just as a cash cow then you are no better than the others who abuse and over breed these dogs just to get money or to fight them just to get money! These dogs just want to love and be loved not abused or left chained outside all day everyday not good for any animal! PROUD PITBULL MOTHER!!!!
I AM VERY PROUD TO OWN A STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER AKA PITBULL SHE IS MY BEST FRIEND AND MY PROTECTOR! SHE HAS NEVER HARMED ANYONE OR ANY OTHER ANIMAL! OTHER BREEDS OF DOGS HAVE ATTACKED HER AND THEY WEREN’T PITBULLS, ROTTIES, OR GSD’S OR KIA’S !
THEY WERE LADS , BOXERS , GOLDEN RETRIEVERS AND GREAT DANES BUT NOT ONCE DID I REPORT THESE DOGS BECAUSE I DIDN’T BLAME THEM I BLAMED THEIR OWNERS FOR THEIR ACTIONS!! THEIR OWNERS WERE IRRESPONSIBLE AND ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN!! NO MORE DOG PARKS FOR US!!
Pit bull advocates say pit bulls are NOT human aggressive. According to pit bull advocates you’ve trained your pit bull to attack humans.
If a freaking dog is your “best friend,” you should be under the care of a psychiatrist because it isn’t normal!
GO TWIRL SOMEWHERE!
Mary, there is a difference between a dog bite and a pit bull mauling or killing. I know this, you know this, everyone knows this.
As far as the gentler larger breed dogs, it’s very rare they maul or kill. That is something pit bull dogs do. If you really want to be “compassionate and protect dogs”, you’d not advocate for pit bulls. They were bred to kill other dogs. I don’t think you realize that pit bulls were bred for dog aggression and gamenss. They are not like other dogs.
Your comment, “PROUD PITBULL MOTHER!!!!”
That says it all Mary. Enjoy your life of ignorance.
PitBulls weren’t born this way they were trained to be aggressive by dog fighting scum bags and drug dealers! And people who don’t socialize their dogs! These people are irresponsible and scum and these dogs and people are the victims in the end and its not the dogs fault it’s the owners and how they raised them! Your picture to answer your question!
Mary, pit bulls are born fighters. It’s been their purpose for over a century.
Canine Behavioral Genetics: Pointing Out the Phenotypes and Herding up the Genes
An astonishing amount of behavioral variation is captured within the more than 350 breeds of dog recognized worldwide.
Inherent in observations of dog behavior is the notion that much of what is observed is BREED SPECIFIC AND WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAINING OR MOTIVATION. Thus, herding, pointing, tracking, hunting, and so forth are likely to be controlled, at least in part, at the genetic level. Recent studies in canine genetics suggest that small numbers of genes control major morphologic phenotypes. By extension, we hypothesize that at least some canine behaviors will also be controlled by small numbers of genes that can be readily mapped.
considering do fighting has been outlawed for over 30 years coupled with the fact that not all APBT’s were bred for fighting your typically strecthed here?
Pit bulls, like all dogs, are a result of their breeding and pit bulls are bred for one purpose and one purpose only — to attack and kill other pit bulls!
really Jim?? so what about wait pulls and the many other activities pitbulls are bred for?? your exposing your fanatical persona to the world at large Jetro
Of the over 5 million pitbulls and their mixes currently in the US, how many have you read of? Fewer than 1/3 of 1%. You will never read of the other pitbulls who do nothing newsworthy. They are the family members, therapy dogs, service dogs, and working dogs. You can choose to live with a fallacy, not documented by one credentialed expert in the field, and you ironically call one whose experience negates your own opinion ignorant. That’s rich! HUE HUE HUE!
Gabi victims of non pitbulls are just as dead as victims of pitbulls not that there’s any actual factual evidence any pitbulls were even involved?? how many dogs involved in fatal attacks were DNA tested?? NONE that’s how many so actually you can’t prove anything?? stories are not facts it seems funny for the queen of ignorance to tell anyone else to enjoy their ignorant life as you demonstrate quite emphatically there’s no joy in being even half as stupid as you?
We’re not talking about “dog BITES,” genius. We’re discussing dog attacks in which the person (usually a child or senior citizen) is either killed or left mutilated and scarred for life!
I am talking about countries where they don’t report this stuff to the news or the police because of where they live they handle this kind of stuff themselves and they don’t want no one in their business! They handle it the way they want to because they see it as a form of justice understand even if we don’t like it we don’t hear about it but it happens!
YOUR A BREEDER ! YOU BREED FOR PROFITS AND YOU ARE A MONEY HUNGRY CASH COW!!
I’m not a breeder Mary. That’s a stupid accusation. Where did you get that I’m a breeder? Of what?
we’re funny!! lol!! Gabi phone a friend by a clue do something before the whole world knoews your a fanatical nutter?
You’re truly a joke. You didn’t report it because you would not have been attended to, you would have been laughed at. As for small dogs “killing someone” and it not being reported, how would you know that if it’s not being reported? You’re not only dumb, you’re a fraud that is easily caught!
Hey I was attacked by a small dog but never by a PitBull you dumbass and I am not a fraud! The dog belonged to my neighbor and the dogs got loose and tried to bite and attack some children on my street and the police and animal control were called to take them and they tried to attack them genius!
Okay, Mary, calling you a “fraud” was too harsh. I apologize. Please forgive me. How about you taking back calling me a “dumbass” mainly because you’re too nice and too smart to be resorting to that kind of name calling. I may be one, but as nice as you are, I’m confident your vocabulary is bigger and better than that. Fair?
I too am sorry for the name calling but when I get going on this subject I lose it! But I am sorry for calling you a dumbass. We are bigger and better and don’t need to lower ourselves to immaturity levels..
Society & Animals Journal of Human-Animal Studies
Managing the Stigma of Outlaw Breeds: A Case Study of Pit Bull Owners
Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy
Managing the Stigma of Outlaw Breeds: A Case Study of Pit Bull Owners (2000)
In the face of this stigma, respondents resorted to using a variety of interactional strategies to lessen the impact of this perception or prevent it from occurring.
These strategies included passing their dogs as breeds other than pit bulls, denying that their behavior is biologically determined, debunking adverse media coverage, using humor, emphasizing counter-stereotypical behavior, avoiding stereotypical equipment or accessories, taking preventive measures, or becoming BREED AMBASSADORS.
Trying to reply test
Mary, sorry for calling you a “fraud” — it was too harsh. Please forgive me.
You are forgiven..
You are delusional. Every child attacked and seriously injured or killed by a dog is reported. In fact, children killed by dogs other than pit bulls are more widely reported because they are so unusual. The most widely-reported dog attack fatalities involving children in recent years were: a husky that murdered a newborn in McKeesport, Penn.; the retriever-mix that killed, and partially ate, the baby in South Carolina, and the big, ugly mastiff monster that killed the 1-year-old child in Nevada on the child’s 1st birthday. The most-reported dog attack fatality in England in recent years was the baby killed in December 2012 by the Jack Russell terrier.
hmmm maybe because your not interested in seeing any if you want i can drop you a link to a page choc-a-block with non pitbulls victims? but i won’t because your obviously not interested?
if you want to kill pitbulls it makes sense to focus on one breed but if you actually want to improve safety and stop all dog related deaths you’d focus on owners?? but we all know community safety is not your focus killing pitbulls. in fact killiong all pitbulls is your aim!!
not if you want to stop all deaths??
How did my response toLl Pits get erased? Was it because I called out pit advocates bad behavior on foamer talk and other pro pit sites? Check out how nutters treat victims at foamer talk.
The media never airs other breeds of dogs that bite or attack just PitBulls because they to are against the PitBull breed! I own a Staffordshire Bull Terrier and everyone calls her a PitBull and a killer! She never killed anybody or any other dog in her 6 yrs of life! If they are raised and trained and socialized properly this wouldn’t be happening! Also teach your children to respect all animals and their space and parents need to be more responsible with their children and all dog breeds! Same with dog owners they need to be more responsible! Banning and BSL laws don’t help it makes things worse!!
This is absolutely true. I once worked as a journalist and every month, a man with sunglasses, an earpiece, a gold tooth, and an Armani suit would walk into my editor’s office and slip her a stack of $100 bills. I figured he was an advertiser who liked to put on a show. I later learned that he was the “executive director” of the local Labradoodle Mafia and we were getting our “incentive” to keep quiet about all the deaths and severe injuries caused by these so-called “family dogs” like Labradoodles. Believe me, it was really hard to sit on the dozens and dozens of catastrophic mauling incidents involving pointers, collies, dachshunds, and shih tsus. You would be astonished to know how many there are. The cuddly dog lobby spends billions and billions to keep these stories out of the press, but some of them are pretty grim. It’s high time the public knew the truth. I would urge any victim of a corgi or basset hound mauling — assuming they survived — to come forward and tell your story here. How many limbs did you lose? How long were you in a coma? What was it like inside the life flight helicopter?
Priceless!
The “media AIRS” all dog attacks and those that do NOT involve pit bulls (which are few and far between) are AIRED even more because they are so unusual.
A Staffordshire Bull Terrier is a pit bull renamed in order to be accepted in the American Kennel Club. Read John P. Colby, the nations number one fighting dog breeder who introduced the dog into the mainstream population after years of only selling to dog fighters.
According to city officials, Aurora’s pit bull laws have resulted in a 93% REDUCTION in pit bull euthanasia. Pit bull attacks are down 73 percent. Citizen complaints about pit bulls have been cut in half.
“According to city documents, before the ordinance was enacted in 2005, up to 70 percent of kennels in the Aurora Animal Shelter were occupied by pit bulls with pending court disposition dates or with no known owner. That number is now only 10 to 20 percent of kennels.”
https://www.aurorasentinel.com/news/city-lawmakers-uphold-auroras-ban-pit-bulls/
A 2014 study published in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science found that Denver’s dog euthanasia rates fell by 77 percent after the city enacted its pit bull law: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10888705.2014.856250?journalCode=haaw20&#.UyeYrs7HiA
As someone who thinks reducing the number of dead animals by 77% or 93% is is generally a GOOD thing, I urge Aurora to vote NO on 2D.
Don’t be fooled by the emotionally-based arguments trotted out by pit bull lobbyists. No logical and compassionate person would argue for the repeal of a law that has so dramatically reduced the unnecessary killing of pets. Pit bull lobbyists are not animal advocates — they are people who wish to maintain a supposed “right” to keep and breed pit bulls unrestricted, often for self-interested or financial motives.
AURORA, CO
Aurora passed a breed ban on “pit bulls” and seven rarer breeds (e.g. Dogo Argentinos) effective 2006. The most recent statistics from Aurora demonstrate that the annual total of dog bites, including severe dog bites, has not decreased. The bites are primarily inflicted by non-banned breeds and types of dogs. Statistics also indicate that severe bites have not decreased, and non-banned breeds of dogs have been overwhelmingly responsible for those—putting lie to the oft-repeated claim that banning “pit bulls” reduces severe bites.
Perplexingly, after passing their ban, Aurora changed the way they tally dog bites—along with some other poor data collection procedures that make their numbers extremely difficult to compare from year to year. In 2011 discussions about the breed ban, city officials carefully ignored the city’s collected data on dog bites; possibly this was due to the data’s flaws, but more likely, the numbers were just plain embarrassing. The data shows that citizens of Aurora are no safer from dog bites today than they were before the breed ban was instituted.
In 2006, Aurora began including dog attacks on pets as dog bite incidents. Previously, the city only tracked attacks on humans. That’s why the number of dog bites appears to be higher post-2006.
Sorry. Where you hoping I didn’t know that?
In 2014, Aurora city officials stated, in no uncertain terms, the following outcomes of the pit bull ban: 93% reduction in pit bull euthanasia. 73% reduction in pit bull attacks. 50% reduction in complaints about pit bulls, and a dramatic reduction in the percentage of shelter kennels occupied by pit bulls (where before pit bulls placed a “tremendous burden” on city staff). That’s directly quoted from Cheryl Conway, spokeswoman for Aurora’s animal care and control. https://www.aurorasentinel.com/news/city-lawmakers-uphold-auroras-ban-pit-bulls/
Nevada Ames, where did Merrit Necia go. I notice you backed your rebuttal up with reliable sources. Pit pusher Merrit Necia just made it all up and slithered away when he was confronted with the truth. People outside the issue would find it hard to believe that these sociopathic-type pit pushers don’t have any qualms lying. Pit pushers Terry Holt, Mary, and esp. that old snake in the grass, lynnf1954 are examples. Terry Holt hasn’t returned since I uploaded a Houma, Louisiana, a supersized killer pit that looks like his own.
Denver enacted its breed ban in 1989. As mentioned above, in 1998, a Denverchild succumbed to injuries inficted by a dog identified as other than a pit bull.It is no surprise that Denver has not seen any appreciable difference in the number or severity odog attacks compared to cities without breed bans.
Breed bans endorse the profoundly mistaken notion that the breed of dog is the driving force behind an attack. Attempting to identify the breed of dog involved in an attack and then “classifying” the inci-dent to be a result of a breed-specific behavior will never prevent dog attacks. It offers no useful infor-mation. We need to hold dog owners responsible or humanely controlling their dogs, and we need toeducate parents/dog owners about dog safety, and the importance of supervising their young children when interacting with dog
The City of Denver continues to squander publicresources deending its breed ban against legal challenges led on behalf of the City’s responsible dog owners. In 2008, responding to public outcry From 1994-1999, 39 children were admitted to a single Denver hospital (Children’s Pediatric) for injuries associated with dogs bites. One of these children died. Of the 38 non-fatal incidents, 82% were not reported in the media at all. Denver offcials have never discussed–correctly, in our opinion–banning the breeds/types of dogs that were alleged to be involved in the 38 cases. Nor have they considered banning the breed/type of dog dentified in connection with the 1998 fatality. In fact, Denver authorities continue to dedicate public resources to enforcing their pit bull ban and defending it from legal challenge, while citizens continue to suffer the same type of dog attacks asthey did prior to the ban
You’re a con just exhausting the reader with voluminous filler that is not relevant. Denver has maintained it’s ban because it works. It has been a model for other cities nationwide, and continues to provide an example of the fact that BSL, when enforced, WORKS. If word gets out that laws aren’t enforce, there is necessarily an impact on the relevant breed’s records. You’re talking about “stuff” that isn’t even comparable to the fatalities and brutal attacks (limbs eaten off, scalps ripped off, faces needing reconstructive surgery for life) by those who survive fighting/killing dog attacks. These are not normal dogs. They don’t even compare to traditional “dangerous breed” dogs. That’s why you need an entire ban (and surely the one-bite rule cannot work, because it’s too likely to be the last bite). Pit bull type dogs were breed to kill their own kind. Unfortunately, they just kill indiscriminately. They are so destructive, they should prove to be self-destructive.
Why don’t you become a group dedicated to the rescue, advocacy and outreach to a group of humans and their innocent pets victimized by pit pushers and their pit-type dogs?
Pit bull advocates are only interested in pit bulls. They hate pit bull attack victims the most.
and if you were really invested in your opinion and that’s all they are , you’d be commenting under your own name and not an alias, do you really expect anyone to take any note of anything you have to say, atleast own your opinions even if they’re wrong, they’re yours?
^^This poster is a fake profile.^^
It’s simple cops and medics are not dog breed id experts?? it’s not rocket science dude?? , oh and if you want people to rake you seriously try using your name?? blink blink
Not care if people like YOU take me serious, blink blink. I dont put my name out because PEOPLE LIKE YOU TAKE AFTER YOUR PITBULLS AND ATTACK ME. NO THANKS. It doesnt matter what breed it is to me. As long as it fits the mold, strong, thick jaw, tenacious wont let go when hit in the head with a bat, uh….you get the picture, they need to be regulated. ANY ANIMAL THAT IS BIG ENOUGH, AGGRESSIVE, BUILT LIKE A TANK, HAS A HISTORY OF ATTACKING PEOPLE. Go ahead, lump them all in there. Lions, T recession ;), pitbulls, rotties, american staffordshire terriers, american bulldogs, wolves and mixes, pit derivatives, etc.
OK FOR YOU PUBLIC THAT ARE NEW TO THIS BANTER……..
notice how breed legislation advocates, who care about people first, use statistics and people’s real life testimonies as proof to back our positions, while dangerous breed anti BSL advocates use insults, personal attacks, name calling and intimidation when commenting on posts. This behavior sheds light on the type of people who own and defend the breed. Whenever ANYONE DEFENDS AN ANIMALS LIFE OVER A HUMANS, YOU KNOW THEYRE A LITTLE NUTTY IN THE HEAD. When they attack and threaten and mock, they cross over into a special category that we call nutters. That word alerts our fellow humanitafians to the type of person that we are dealing with. They have tons of secret facebook pages where they steal photos from bsl advocates personal pages, post those photos, mock and call them names. Many of these pages even list the victims and insult their parents, talk ugly about the deceased and mock their attempts to warn others of the potential dangers that these breeds can bring. Foamers, Foamer Talk, anything Pitbull advocacy related just type the name in and search facebook. Faces of bsl apologists pops up from time to time. Take a look at nutter behavior, youll be apalled.
Now, back to the nutter that im conversing with…..
Yes, BSL works in places where the laws are enforced. No not all people who break the law are caught, thus still some attacks, although greatly reduced. Yes, all dogs can bite but not all do. No chihuahuas, coconuts, poodle, and dachshunds among others are not killing people. Yes, anything (not just an animal) can kill an unattended infant or young baby. Yes, I want animals that are capable of and have a history of attacking and killing people legislated. No, I dont believe that your dog has NEVER SHOWN AGGRESSION, if you have one of these breeds. Yes. Its BREEDS, not BREADS;). YES, I love people more than animals. NN ox im not afraid of nutter intimidation.
Bring it. Prove who you really are. Show the nice people reading this your true nature.
one last no.
No, not all pitbull and other dangerous owners are nutters. Many of them are nice people and only have their own benign experiences with their dogs. They just cant predict which ones will snap and which ones wont, and they cant control irresponsible ownership of dangerous dogs. Thats why BSL and the laws placed individuals protect society. They work when enforced and when they are broken, the law breaker is heavily punished. Also, part of BSL can dictate descriptions, dna, and characteristics of dangerous breeds.
Way to go Aurora and silent majority, keep it up!
J Am Vet Med Assoc. 2013 Dec 15;243(12):1726-36. doi: 10.2460/javma.243.12.1726.
Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite-related fatalities in the United States (2000-2009).
Patronek GJ1, Sacks JJ, Delise KM, Cleary DV, Marder AR.
Author information
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To
examine potentially preventable factors in human dog bite-related
fatalities (DBRFs) on the basis of data from sources that were more
complete, verifiable, and accurate than media reports used in previous
studies.
DESIGN:
Prospective case series.
SAMPLE:
56 DBRFs occurring in the United States from 2000 to 2009.
PROCEDURES:
DBRFs
were identified from media reports and detailed histories were compiled
on the basis of reports from homicide detectives, animal control
reports, and interviews with investigators for coding and descriptive
analysis.
RESULTS:
Major co-occurrent factors for the 256
DBRFs included absence of an able-bodied person to intervene (n = 223
[87.1%]), incidental or no familiar relationship of victims with dogs
(218 [85.2%]), owner failure to neuter dogs (216 [84.4%]), compromised
ability of victims to interact appropriately with dogs (198 [77.4%]),
dogs kept isolated from regular positive human interactions versus
family dogs (195 [76.2%]), owners’ prior mismanagement of dogs (96
[37.5%]), and owners’ history of abuse or neglect of dogs (54 [21.1%]).
Four or more of these factors co-occurred in 206 (80.5%) deaths. For 401
dogs described in various media accounts, reported breed differed for
124 (30.9%); for 346 dogs with both media and animal control breed
reports, breed differed for 139 (40.2%). Valid breed determination was
possible for only 45 (17.6%) DBRFs; 20 breeds, including 2 known mixes,
were identified.
CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE:
Most
DBRFs were characterized by coincident, preventable factors; breed was
not one of these. Study results supported previous recommendations for
multifactorial approaches, instead of single-factor solutions such as
breed-specific legislation, for dog bite prevention.
Yes, this report actually tells us we can predict who is going to bite. Past history is a great predictor of the future. Nearly every one of these attacks could have been prevented, as the circumstances of the dog and the setting were examined.
This “study” has pit bull propaganda written all over it. People should be ashamed to let that garbage into the AVMA records.
“Delise KM, Cleary DV,” HUE HUE HUE
Yes the “study” was created and funded by the pit bull lobby who was bragging about getting it into JAVMA on their website. Way to go pit bull breeders.
Perhaps you would like to share Merritt Clifton’s credentials in the field, or those of Colleen Lynn? HUE HUE HUE
This study is disconcerting. A factor that this study fails include is the stability of the breed type. It has been seen in other overbred breeds an overt an unpredictable aggression.
What also concerns me is the vague description of dogs not properly socialized with humans. I have seen the example of dogs crated during the day while owners work as not socialized properly with people. Last I checked this was a recommended training tool.
Human error exists and happens everyday without death by dog occurring. When one breed group is dominating this category splitting hairs is not going to stop this from occurring. I hate to make human analogies concerning dogs but it seems as though you are blaming normal interactions with dogs as somehow provoking them to kill. So, by this train of thought you better be the best trained behaviorist to identify the subtle cues that not even other dogs can see prior to an attack or you have been the key contributing factor. Too many studies trying to prove that the circumstances warrant the behavior which simply isn’t true in stable Companion dogs.
1) What is a “breed group”?
2) What is your source for “the stability of the breed type”?
3) What other breeds (or breed groups, I get confused since you use both interchangeably) have “overt an unpredictable aggression”?
4) Why are you 50% more likely to be hospitalized in Denver than the rest of the state due to dog bite?
First, let me tell you that my information and opinion are derived from my years as an Animal Control Director. I am not affiliated with any group. I have adopted out, fostered and owned more pit bulls than most rescues. I embrace the positive and negative traits in this breed group and was not ashamed to provide follow up training for pit bulls that included bite stick training.
I took on the term breed group following suit of this description of many mollessor breeds that have been bred individually or in different variations ( mixes) to produce the best fighters, the biggest bullies and the back yard garden variety pit bull.
When I refer to breed groups in relation to other breeds I am referring to GSD, Rottweilers, St. Bernard’s and other breeds that held the opinion that they were “dogs that will turn on you”.
All of those breeds when over bred due to popularity established unpredictable aggressive behavior. The lovers of these breeds did not deny there was an issue or blame irresponsible ownership nor did they factor in whether or not their dogs were indoor or outdoor dogs. They realized their breed of choice had become unstable and took action that corrected the issue.
As for Denver, breed bans are not designed to reduce dog bites. The breed ban looks to reduce catastrophic maulings and deaths. That was its intent and received the desired result.
I would also like to add that there is a dig fence between a draconian ban or breed restrictions.
It is unheard of for lovers of a breed that is being overbred to encourage an increase in ownership. It goes against the very economics of supply and demand. It also goes against matching the right owners with the right dog. It is this mentality that is perpetuating the deaths of over a million pit bulls a year in shelters. I ask, do you think that one million new owners equipped to own pit bulls is available year after year?
I want to reiterate that I have loved this breed but acknowledge that we have a problem that needs to be solved. I believe at this point BSL is necessary. I also believe that lovers of the breed should be at the table contributing to what those restrictions should be. There is middle ground and we all need to work together.
Awesome. Gotcha by IP finally. Thanks!
There is something satisfying about feeling like you are catching someone being deceitful only to find they were being truthful. It will restore your faith in humanity. Stay Safe!
Are you against laws that treat all dogs equally, encourage registration and proper treatment and actually reduce serious bites? I am. Still waiting for you to tell me how Denver has such a high serious bite rate if BSL works…
Define serious bite?
🙂
You’re lying. Director where? Another country? I’m curious, as you’re not paid by any search of publicly funded institutions in the US.
A liar I am not. Credible I am. As for working out of the Country, never have. I am a true Patriot. I am paid by no employer. I am retired but seriously considering returning to help bridge this vicious divide.
If you had credentials you would post them.
yes i no it doesn’t matter what bred/type it is you just want to kill all dogs, your not only a coward but your a fool too, oh and FYI wanker i don’t even own a pitbull but don’t let the facts get in the road of a good rant!!
Pit bulls kill thousands of beloved pets every year in this country. People who advocate for BSL don’t want to kill all dogs. In fact, they want to protect people’s pets by banning the breed that keeps killing them. Advocates for BSL are the actual dog lovers here, not pit bull advocates.
Pit bull aggression, the pit bull’s grip n’ rip behavior, and other dog fighting behaviors are not “trained”, it is not learned, it is behavior selectively bred into pit bull dogs by dog fighters for over a century.
Canine Behavioral Genetics: Pointing Out the Phenotypes and Herding up the Genes
An astonishing amount of behavioral variation is captured within the more than 350 breeds of dog recognized worldwide.
Inherent in observations of dog behavior is the notion that much of what is observed is BREED SPECIFIC AND WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAINING OR MOTIVATION. Thus, herding, pointing, tracking, hunting, and so forth are likely to be controlled, at least in part, at the genetic level. Recent studies in canine genetics suggest that small numbers of genes control major morphologic phenotypes. By extension, we hypothesize that at least some canine behaviors will also be controlled by small numbers of genes that can be readily mapped.
You’re talking about using a real name Bull Pitts ?? How can we “rake” you seriously ?? blink blink
Q: Does BSL reduce dog bites?
A: No. BSL has not succeeded in reducing dog bite-related injuries wherever in the world it has been enacted. An analysis published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association explains one reason that BSL could not be expected to work even if particular breeds could be identified as high risk. The authors calculated the absurdly large numbers of dogs of targeted breeds who would have to be completely removed from a community in order to prevent even one serious dog bite-related injury. For example, in order to prevent a single hospitalization resulting from a dog bite, the authors calculate that a city or town would have to remove more than 100,000 dogs of a targeted group. To prevent a second hospitalization, double that number.[3]
• Denver, CO enacted a breed-specific ban in 1989. Citizens of Denver continue to suffer a higher rate of hospitalization from dog bite-related injuries after the ban, than the citizens of breed-neutral Colorado counties.[4]
• A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior, compared medically treated dog bites in Aragon, Spain for 5 years prior to and following enactment of Spain’s “Law on the legal treatment of the possession of dangerous animals” (sometimes referred to Spain’s Dangerous Animal Act) (2000). The results showed no significant effect in dog bite incidences when comparing before and after enactment of the BSL.[5]
• The Netherlands repealed a 15-year-old breed ban in 2008 after commissioning a study of its effectiveness. The study revealed that BSL was not a successful dog-bite mitigation strategy because it had not resulted in a decrease in dog bites. [6]
• The Province of Ontario in Canada enacted a breed ban in 2005. In 2010, based on a survey of municipalities across the Province, the Toronto Humane Society reported that, despite five years of BSL and the destruction of “countless” dogs, there had been no significant decrease in the number of dog bites.[7]
• Winnipeg, Manitoba enacted a breed ban in 1990. Winnipeg’s rate of dog bite-injury hospitalizations is virtually unchanged from that day to this, and remains significantly higher than the rate in breed-neutral, responsible pet ownership Calgary[8]
Bans and/or strict regulation HAVE REDUCED OR ENDED – in very community they exist – 1) serious dog attacks resulting in mauling or death (but not all nips or minor bites); 2) the number of dogs dying in shelters due to euthanasia; 3) instances of dog torture and abandonment as sadists are attracted to these poor dogs who should not be bred at all and have no place as pets in modern society. If you won’t keep the ban in Aurora to protect the public – please do it to help reduce the suffering and death of dogs.
Denver is still ranked in the top 10 cities in the country for dog bites. That’s with 4000 dogs who had no history of violent behavior killed.
BSL is not intended to reduce dog bites. It’s intended to reduce maulings, maimings and killings by dangerous dog breeds such as pit bulls. If BSL does that, than it is effective. The dog bite question is a red herring designed to take focus off what BSL is really intended to do. And that is not end all dog bites. Just brutal, vicious mutilations and killings caused by pit bulls. Nice try though.
and if it worked it’d still do nothing for victims of non pitbulls but don’t let yourself be distracted by non pitbull victims now susan you never have in the past as colleen freely admits BSL is about killing pitbullsd which in theory if all your numbers are right should of lowered the death toll?/ but it hasn’t has it?? more deaths this year and yet you all still try and sell your Bsl line and you wonder why people are recognising your propaganda as exactly that and identifying you all as the fanatics you are, thick skinned to boot, merrit must have skin like a rhino and i can’t imagine Colleen doing anymore media interviews having been shamed and made to look like the fool she is everytime she does one!! lol!1 keep it coming nutters!! lol!!
BULL PITTS is a BALD FACE LIAR. Denver has absolutely obliterated it’s pit fatalities. Look at Council Bluffs, Iowa (conspicuously absent from the list), clean pit fatality record by strong enforcement. Miami Dade — recently affirmed they wanted to continue to ban pits, then the law is circumvented when a pit advocate like dog catcher Kathleen Labrada is allowed to continue to circumvent the will of the voters by refusing to enforce the ban on pit bulls — Three children killed in Florida in less than a month this fall. Labrada should be fired and a crew put in place that will enforce the voter’s will. Pit bull bans work perfectly, but not when you hire pit advocates to enforce the law. It’s a fraud upon the voters the way government is seemingly splitting the baby by refusing to enforce bans. PEOPLE, SEE TO IT THAT BSL IS ENFORCED… don’t be fooled by the animal control services you outsource. Watch these opinionated minions like a hawk. Animal people are nuts.
if Bull pits is a liar how about you drop a link to your proof!! oh that’s right you don’t deal with proof just name calling and I’m assuming Bull hjsas been blocked and banned from commenting in true foamer style you get a person blocked and then smear their goood name? your a hate filled propaganda spewing ppitbasher !!
This is an example of the bald face lying this unscrupulous group will resort to. Being a liar goes hand-in-hand with pit advocacy. The frenzied back slapping for mindless entries is nothing but an appeal to the ignorant herd to jump in with us, “we’re the many in control, here watch us push this baby’s face into this scary-looking pit.” I think Aurora will fall to pit bulls soon, if not this year. I think societies are more violent, and suburbia is younger, full of people raised on violence, rap culture, social media abuse. Pit gore fits with all of that and is really just a reflection of society. It’s fashionable to downplay the gory maulings… just put them behind you, one by one and console yourself with the lie, “it’s the bad owner, not the bad dog, my brother has one and he just loves him, don’t knock pits, and on and on.” Aurora is very familiar with violence, pits will accessorize that violence quite fashionably. Everybody can hug and cry and get on TV about the little messes.
and here we have it ladys and gentlemens this is an excellent example of a foamer in their element!! spewing venomous lies like there’s no tomorow,, keep up the good work Marissa you are a legend among advocates!!
“Bites” are not the same as “maulings” and “killing”. Any dog can bite. Pit Bulls kill. And maim.
seeing as they removed my friend terrys response I’ll respond again?? what’s going on sentinel are you bowing to the foamers??,, the reason fake bananie is because cops are dog breed experts, medics are not dog breed experts, witnesses generally are not dog breed experts,, victims to date have not been dog breed id experts??? it’s not rocket science dude, statistics based on flawed data is flawed statisitics?? oh and FYI you’d be more convincing if you weren’t hiding behind a fake account???
Oh and Sentinel you go right ahead and delete my reply to if that’s what the foamers want?? be aware i’ve copied it and i’m sharing it on all my fb pages and groups and they’re just going to keep posting it untill you leave it there?? ban us all if you want?? that would be the behaviour typical of a foamer org??
I’m not hiding. BSL works.
Explain: Denver residents are 50% more likely to be hospitalized from dog bite than the state average (source: Colorado Department of Health and Environment, Injury Hospitalization Dataset)
The definition of a foamer is a railway enthusiast. So no, to answer your question, the Sentinel is not bowing to railway enthusiasts.
once again i’ll answer your question seeing as the sentinel keeps removing our responses??? what’s going on sentinel???
it’s simple whatever your name is,, cops are not dog breed id experts, medics are not dog breed id experts, witnesses such as neigbors etc are not dog breed experts, owners are not dog breed id experts, and victims are not dog breed id experts?? there’s been no confirmation of any of the breeds/types of dogs involved in any attacks were actually APBT?? oh and fyi as terry and collleen said if you want to be taken seriously try using your name and own your opinions??
OK, when pit bull people set out to breed their pit bulls, they have no problem calling them what they are, and the public has no problem identifying them when they buy them. When pit bulls turn on their owners, the owners seem to know what they are. When Huffington puts flower hats on pits does anybody get confused as to what the breed is? When a pit latches onto your dogs neck and kills it, you get a very good look at the dog, same as when it latches onto you. You know it is not an Afghan or a beagle. You know it by its behavior, and its M.O. Let’s get real here. Pits are a FAD dog, there are far too many of them. People know what they look like. Police know what they look like. Even when they try to mix them with labs, you can recognize the pit, esp by the predatory way it acts.
Find the Pit Bull is an excellent tool to demonstrate the difficulty of identifing a purebred American Pit Bull Terrier. Click here to take the test yourself.
A former Ohio dog warden, Tom Skeldon, who was called as an “expert” on behalf of the City of Toledo in the matter of Toledo v. Tellings testified that there is really no way to tell if a dog is or is not a pit bull, and the determination is made by animal control officers’ subjective judgment. Toledo v. Tellings, 2006 WL 513946 (Ohio App. 6 Dist) March 2006
[Breed bans] carry with them too much potential for arbitrary or improper enforcement: inaccurate breed identification by officials and difficulty enforcing breed bans against mixed-breed. Source: AnimalLaw
[W]e conclude that the subjective identification of pit bulls may often include both non-pit bulls or dogs which are not vicious…[laws] based upon that identification process, we conclude that they are unconstitutionally vague. Toledo v. Tellings, 2006 WL 513946 (Ohio App. 6 Dist) March 2006
Nearly every one of the dogs in the Find a Pit Bull (unless its a lab or a toy dog) fall into the pit bull breed type category which is broad & inclusive, not narrow. Mixes of pit bulls or the several breeds in that “find a” are also verifiably iffy dogs that should be viewed with great caution. Pits are mixed by dog fighters with several breed types. 99% of the dogs that flood shelters and run the streets attacking people are not pedigreed dogs.
yes we already no your opinion fataaw but considering your not a dog expert they count for nothing as with all foamers your all noise no content, the fact is not one dog involved in any fatal attack has been DNA’d and confirmed to be an APBT?? that’s a fact something which is obviously extremely unfamiliar to you and most foamers?
You’re laughable to jurists. The testimony of the owner of the dog as to the dog’s breed — without credible refutation other than the ridiculous Terry-Holt-off-the-street-denies-owner’s-claim — is the best evidence. DNA testing is commonly sought by people that are looking to know the breed of their unpapered dog. It’s so unreliable it’s absurd, because pit type dogs — along with the majority of unpapered dogs — return results with every conceivable breed in the book showing up. I won’t waste my money on my mixed breed for fear he will turn out to be part pit. (I accuse the 14lb. Chihuahua mix of being part pit because of his great teeth, his serious grip&shake, oh I shudder to think… there’s so many pits running around screwing over the place [pardon the pittiful pun])Visual inspection is accepted in the case law. Because Toledo reverses itself today, is a pretty good indicator it will reverse itself tomorrow when the public outcry causes the wind to blow in the opposite direction. Case law is notorious for reflecting social trends.
visual identification of dog breed is reliable. Even when the dog is mixed-breed.
From the ASPCA:
“The population of dogs coming into the sheltering population in Richmond, VA, may be different than elsewhere, but at least at the Richmond SPCA, with a specific look and type, staff were quite good at breed identification—correctly identifying 96% of the dogs in the study as having at least 25% of the breeds noted above.”
you keep telling yourself that babby and more and more people will come to the realization that you have no proof of anything ,, just junk science nonsense statistics and mis information all force fed to you by the buiggest science whore of them all, keep using this moron as a source because frankly everyone knows he’s so full of it he burps turds!! lol! you are all funny without really trying to be funny!!
“””I am surprised the Sentinel has any dealing with such a man, he freely admits to murdering pitbulls with anti freeze on public forums, he makes rude and sexually suggestive comments to 12 year old girls, and he lies about the dogs that killed his son?? they were boxer mixes according to the organization that adopted them to Sussan iwicki?? oh and sentinel i’m expecting you to delete my comment AGAIN so i’ll be copy and pasting it to my foamer page and exposing your foamer tendencies if this sort of thing continues??”””
How about you share what that study actually studied? Hint: it wasn’t a breed ID study.
It absolutely studied breed ID.
No, it did not. The study was designed “to see what impact a DNA analysis that would identify breed mixes would have on adopter choice”. They controlled for people who didn’t know the dogs’ breed versus those that did. That is all. The actual studies on visual ID have shown that “expert” visual ID is unreliable.
It also found that people who knew they were getting a pit bull mix were more likely to adopt the dog than those who didn’t.
Your comment, “It also found that people who knew they were getting a pit bull mix were more likely to adopt the dog than those who didn’t.”
Thought nobody could identify a pit bull. Apparently, pit bull advocates are WRONG, we can identify a pit bull and according to the study, “correctly identifying 96% of the dogs in the study as having at least 25% of the breeds noted above”. HUE HUE HUE
Again, the purpose of the study was not to see if shelters could identify for breed. Period. If they were studying for breed identification, they wouldn’t have used a pool of 91 dogs of which only 4 weren’t “pit bulls” as well as lumping dogs into the pit bull category that aren’t pit bulls at all.
Regardless, it shows that people can identify a pit bull.
“correctly identifying 96% of the dogs in the study as having at least 25% of the breeds noted above”. HUE HUE HUE
Furthermore, since we’re talking about Aurora, let’s talk about their breed ID stats… 76% of the dogs that their animal control initially identified as pit bulls had no pit bull DNA whatsoever. They were 24 for 102 by the city attorney’s admission.
If your pit dog can’t be identified as a pit, you got nothing to worry about whether BSL exists or not. The whole breed ID argument is easily dealt with by competent judges who are accustomed to obfuscation through nonsensical arguments such as this one. The 1989 Yakima Washington pit bull ban case thoroughly addresses this circular, devious argument.
BSL is not just about pits, it is about all dogs! Every decade the media has made a different breed the poster child of so called “vicious breed”. If you allow BSL then you have opened the door for any and all dogs to be illegal.
The pit nutter mantra, “all dogs bite”.
It’s pit bull advocates who make BSL about other dogs and drag down other breeds. BSL is about pit bulls and fighting breed dogs, NOT other breeds. It’s your people who involve other breeds of dog.
Wendy, to write: “Every decade the media has made a different breed the poster child of so called “vicious breed” is to make a blatantly false, unsupportable statement. The media is chargeable with bias, not designating “vicious breed” status. Currently, the media is bias in favor of pit bulls because they have been so bullied and maligned for reporting pit bull attacks. Often now, when they know it’s a pit bull involved, they refuse to name the breed. If it’s not a pit bull, the breed is given. In the law, there has always been “dangerous breed dogs.” The pit bull type dog and it’s brutal killing and mauling record has instigated the newer concept of banning entire breeds. These dogs weren’t bred to be pets, they were bred for bloodsport. Those activities have been outlawed, so the instrument of those activities should be sterilized into extinction.
It’s estimated every 9 days someone is killed by a pit bull.
Where’s all those fatal Golden Retriever attacks?
No, because any and all dogs don’t maim and kill regularly like pit bulls do. When other breeds kill it’s an anomaly; when pit bulls kill it’s continuation of a pattern.
Find the Pit bull shows a lot of closeups of heads, not whole body types. Let me show you a photo of ten headlights and you tell me which one belongs to a Subaru.
you do whatever you want to do, i really don’t see what headlights and dogs have to do with each other?
So we will force you sneaky killer dog lovers to pay for DNA tests on your dogs, as if those bloody paw prints leading back to your house aren’t obvious. Remember when you’re all crying “fowl” that you are the ones who forced our hand.
The problem is, they are going off of a descriptive term, not a breed. There is no breed in the world named “it bull”. It just doesn’t exist. So saying “fact: pit bulls kill more humans and animals than all breeds combined” makes no sense, because…pit bull isn’t a breed. the city I live in, you have to register an American Bulldog(with papers and pedigree) as a “pit bull”. It makes no sense at all. The mutts are the problem, most of the “pit bulls” you see are not APBT, they are mutts mixed with all kinds off bulldog and mastiff breeds to get a certain look. ABPT are not 80+lbs.
A “pit bull,” is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
It still isn’t a breed lol! It just isn’t. You cannot have laws that say the “breed” known as….when there is no breed named that! All of those breeds, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier those are all BREEDS. Now, my city’s law isn;t that specific, it just says “pit bull” it doesn’t name specific breeds, such as those listed above. What you posted doesn’t prove that there is a breed named pit bull. A reference, or a descriptive term isn’t a breed. and what you posted wasn’t the Kennel club saying that there is a breed called pit bull. If that is what you are implying.
They’re all basically the same fighting breed dog. You people call them pit bulls you have fan pages devoted to “pit bulls”. Hmmmmm.
Not me, I actually am one of the people (in my city)that has attempted to make an effort to educate people on the different breeds. I mean, they are making people register their American Bulldog’s as “pit bulls” even when they have UKC papers adn pedigree proving otherwise! It makes no sense! asnd my dog is by no means an ABPT. He is a bulldog mix, he is over 90lbs, def not APBT. American Bully is an actual breed, too.
Should someone with a car that “looks” like a Ferrari have to pay the same insurance rate as someone who actually has a Ferrari? Come on. I mean if a Toyota hit you and the cop wrote it up as a Honda, and you pointed it out and he said…”well, they look the same so it doesn’t really matter” wouldn’t you want that to be corrected?
You can “educate” all you want. None cares. Even the law which I show you defines pit bulls. Most pit bull owners change the use of the word “pit bull” when it suits them.
You can’t have fan pages and game-dog forums devoted to “pit bulls” and then turn around and claim they are different. If you ever wonder what a pit bull looks like, go to those pages and you can see for yourself.
But you are missing the point, since when is a descriptive term okay to have in a law? Where will that end? Where is the due process? You are given no opportunity to defend the face that you do not own a “pit bull”. Laws cannot be based off of speculation, that makes no sense. Many places agree with that and have proven so by banning any enactments of BSL in their respective state. It fixes nothing, changes nothing. Just like gun laws. The majority of gun crimes are not committed by legal gun owners. If a “pi bull” bites someone, is it because there were no restrictive laws? No, it is because the person who had the dog, never should have had one! Of any breed! We have BSL in my city and dogs get lose and bite all the time, and it is never from those who actually are responsible law abiding owners. It never is. The bite reports do not reflect that “pit bulls” bit more in my city, at all. And, all it takes is someone to say “pit bull” and that is what they document as the breed. there is no identification by anyone with real knowledge on the breed (APBT).
Your comment, “But you are missing the point, since when is a descriptive term okay to have in a law?”
You are missing the point. The law already defines what is considered a pit bull dog. You can’t have it both ways…calling a pit bull a pit bull, then when it suits you call it something else.
The game is up. Nobody believes you. Dog fighters have been changing the names of pit bulls for almost a century. Same dog different names. Possibly some slight variations but still a pit bull.
We don’t see Border Collie breeders doing it. Why do you think that is? 😉
Your comment, “Where is the due process?”
Dogs don’t get “due process”. If a dog is found to be a menace and the owner can’t/won’t control their dog, then it is put down. If a dog is found to be a “pit bull” and the city/county/state bans pit bulls, then it is either shipped out of the area or put down.
Your comment, “I am not for taking a bully breed to a dog park. I not about saying it is all in how you raise em or whatever. People need to know what kind of dog they are getting, with any breed.”
I respect your caution. Why take the chance of making “pit bulls” get more bad publicity. Other pit bull owners have made the mistake of taking their DA pit bull to the dog park only to make more enemies. Then they blame it on “small dog” or some other dog “started it but my dog finished it”. That does not help pit bulls.
Another thing I’d like to point out. Border Collies don’t need AKC papers to be considered a Border Collie. So the whole registered pit bull thing does not apply.
Dude I have a half pit half doberman. Are you saying it’s BAD to have the mixedbreed? Dog, yes we call him dog cause we have no better name for him, is a really nice pitdoberman mix! He only play bites.
Is this Merrit Cleton person real? The FB page is sanitized and if you google Merrit Cleton, Merritt Clifton comes up (the two would most definitely oppose each other). By the amount of page likes on the Merrit Cleton fb page, there should be more seen in a google search, but there isn’t. Something is not right.
Dan Saeger””Something is not right”” not right in what way?? what evidence do you have that Mr Cleton is not real,? pls explain how you sanitize a fb page as i’d like to sanialize mine too? how is the amount of likes a persons facebook page has have anything to do with a google search??
Dan Saeger, Terry Holt is giving you the good ole grip and shake till you go away. If you were face to face with him and his pit, he’d just sic his pit on you, accidentally of course.
considering i don’t own a pit that’s going to be pretty difficult on my part nutter but don’t let the facts get in the road??
Terry – If you can answer my question(s) truthfully, I’ll decide if you own a pit, since pit owners have lots of interesting names for their “pets”. What kind of dog do you own, Terry? We want just facts.
sorry to disapoint you Marisa but i own harlequin dane cross neopolitan mastiffs?? and you can decide anything you want because no-one is taking any notice of your fanatical rants?
So you own a supersized pit bull. Pit Bull fraud-author Ken Foster speculated in his Youtube interview about the March 2014 mauling of a four year old Houma, LA, breeder’s child. He speculated killer stud 135lb. Nikko was supersized through increasing the Mastiff. You gotta German Mastiff (Dane) crossed with a French Mastiff. A French mastiff just killed a child family member. Mastiff’s belong in zoos, not strutted, one in each hand, in public parks and neighborhoods, like walking cows down the sidewalk. Get a real identity, like an occupation. If you have one, what do you do with your dog-cow during the day? So, what’s the pit bull picture/moniker that goes with your name? Is that dog dead like Jeff Daniel’s Bella he still misleads his YouTube video viewers about?
well once again Maryann you’ve topped yourself, so a harlequin great dane is a mastiff?? LOL!!! and a NEO mastiff is a “french Mastiff?? and both are oversized pitbulls?? lol!!! My profile pic is the perfect example, that dog would be seized for being a “pitbull” under BSL whereas it’s not a pitbull?? it’s one of my dogs, a neo mastiff dane cross, and you’ve proved my point by assuming it’s a pitbull?? and once agaim thank you for demonstrating to all the “normal” people how a pitbashing fanatic thinks?? you are the main feature on my foamer page thank you for all the great stuff you post it makes our job easier!! oh and FYI i’m a pensioner, disability, i have emphacina, oh and FYI neo mastiffs are not french!! lol!! blink blink
If you can call me Maryann, I can call an Italian Mastiff a French one. The only difference is the invisible country line. In any case I corrected my original remark, but you haven’t corrected any of yours because yours are intentional lies whereas mine is an admitted mistake. Your other mastiff is absolutely a German Mastiff, aka a Great Dane (Harlequin adds nothing to it, good grief man, you don’t even recognize a pit bull). PEOPLE I challenge you to compare the bull dog in Terry Holt’s moniker with the bull dog called Nikko that killed four year old _______ in Houma, LA in March 2014. Mastiff bull dogs kill little girls eating popcorn with their mom. Took a dozen bullets to stop that crazed dog being bred and sold by the little girl’s father. Here’s a link to the story and a picture of the dog you can compare with Terry Holts.
Pit bull advocates have no interest in the truth or in fixing the pit bull problem.
Yep, that’s a pit bull.
How do you know it’s not a pit bull since you and your people claim “nobody can identify a pit bull”.
Terry, not every sentence is a question. Please learn about periods.
please write your own blogs if you’re so good?
doesn’t adding a question mark make them a question?
No, it’s just a way to harass a man named Merritt Clifton who tracks dog on dog attacks and dog on human attacks by breed.
Pit bull advocates hate him.
Pitbull advocates hate a fraud. Clifton has no credentials in animal behavior, has not published one peer reviewed bit of information. His methods of gathering information are substandard and biased. Yet he promotes these amateurish articles under the guise of an expert, creating hysteria among the ignorant.
Pit bull advocates hate anything that’s not a pit bull. That is all.
See above response from me.
another gem form the Gabi vault, between you and the nutter poisoning and stabbing and shooting and/or throwing acid on innocent family pets people are seeing you all for what you are?? fanatics and we all know fanatics are dangerous look at ISIS for instance?
From what I’ve personally seen and comment’s I’ve read I believe pit bulls and their owners behave like terrorists.
Your comment, “Pitbull advocates hate a fraud.”
Pit bull advocacy is all about fraud. Promoting a fighting breed dog. The first thing that comes to mind is the “nanny dog” myth. Then there’s the ncrc, dog fighting, changing the definition of gameness and many other low life scumbag things.
You make vague accusations and generalizations, Gabriel, and make no effort to educate yourself beyond that which Colleen Lynn spoon feeds you. When you have specific sources, called citations, to document those accusations and generalizations you may be credible. At this moment you are just laughable, just as your little friends.
Your denial only shows what pit bull advocacy truly is…a stinky turd that needs to be flushed.
lol
denial ?? what are you actual accusing Lynn of?? you are a unit aren’t you?
yeah you know a fraud,, lori k wilson, darrin stephens etc etc
You could care less about “credentials in animal behavior” or you would consider them. Who needs credentials in animal behavior to risk a strange pit waddling up to your baby carriage to eat your kid. The propaganda your cult generates such as the pit is a “nanny dog” promotes that dangerous risk-taking, and when the pit takes the baby by the throat, you say the opposite: “Children should never be left alone with any dog.” You belong to a frenzied group of virtual criminals (they are at the core of this movement). The complete lack of regard for the facts about the fatalities and horrendous maulings by these beasts, the misrepresentations, the stupid argument that breed has no meaning isn’t even mind boggling anymore. The writings are for honest inquirers. Not one of them can prove to be honest if they have not looked at the 100s of cases at Dogsbite.org, Cravendesires blog, or Merritt Clifton’s website. If the volumes of credible reporting, citations of sources does not impress the person who really wants to know, then I say they just aren’t interested in truth, but looking for a herd to follow.
I am interested in documented truth, from reliable sources such as published authorities in animal behavior and the CDC. Merritt Clifton has no published work, nor has Colleen Lynn. Much of the peer reviewed material they cite is cherry picked, taken out of context to prove their opinions. I’m sorry that I don’t fit your imagined profile of a pitbull owner. My children were raised with pits and pit mixes that I adopted for over thirty years and there were no violent incidents. My grandchildren now love the current rescues, and only God could help anyone who tried to harm them if my dogs are nearby.
There are over 5 million pitbulls and their mixes in the US currently. How many have you read of this year? Fewer than 1/2of 1%. Hardly enough to base a stereotype on.
You still haven’t answered my one question… still just babbling on: PUBLIC notice lynnf1954 statement about her pits and pit mix rescues. Notice how she states one thing, then the opposite: “No violent incidents”, but her 30 years of pits and pit mixes are so violent “only God could help anyone who tried to harm [her Grandchilren].” You will read list of triggers for pit bulls at Dogsbite.org. A pit pusher like lynnf1954 will list the most ridiculous reason why pits attack and kill or rip the throats out of people, especially children. I’ll get the list and be right back.
First, you have posed no question to me, only presented a diatribe. Were you to ask one which is not baited and wished for a dialogue, I would be happy to oblige. However, that will never happen, as you like to twist words. My animals have never had to be violent for my children or grandchildren, but they are protective. that is their nature, and in fact loving and protecting children is the breed standard set by the UKC. You choose to read violence into an idiomatic expression. Is English your first language?
Please don’t use dogsbite as a source. They are not reliable and have no credentialed associates in animal behavior. Find some peer reviewed studies published in animal related journals, or CDC statistics if you want facts. As for “pit pushing”, I never had to push pits. The dogs I took were in the most need, just as my foster children. No dog attack is unprovoked. You might not know the provocation, or recognize the warning signals. And of course, no child would if he had not been exposed to dogs, nor should he ever be left unsupervised with a dog until he is old enough to respect the dog and understand the consequences of disrespecting the dog.
Who could find my question in your maze of verbage.
lynn blabbers on a lot and makes little sense. I only read about 20% of her comments anymore.
that’s ok because we don’t read any of yours we simply flag them as spam
Why do you flag my posts? I said nothing wrong.
every you said about pitbulls is a lie and you know it?
Please be specific because I don’t want to lie about anything.
everything is specific?
Ah, so you didn’t ask one. You just flung accusations. You should read back what you’ve written on this site. I have been respectful and exercised common sense here, and you have flung baseless negative stereotypes and blathered on about pit pushers and how criminal they are. I guarantee that my comments have been much more respectful and fact based than your vitriol, yet I am the bad guy here? Perhaps you should look in the mirror. I would never dream of treating another human being like that.
As you and your little friend Gabriel have nothing of substance to say, it is not a conversation, so I will be signing off. You have nothing of value to contribute and I don’t have time for fools.
You act like a pit bull around my throat. GET OFF and go sniffing for my original reply to you if you’re sincere about NOW wanting to answer my quesiton. In any case SCRAM, you nut. You’re every honest participant’s nightmare in a forum like this.
spoken like a true troll is there an actual point hiding in your head somewhere?
wow and now the age old foamer trick of accusing advocates of doing, exactly what they are doing?? nice try Marissa fanatic for sure all noise no content as usual?
the fact that you can’t find “your” question in “lynn’s” response kind of highlights your shortcomings in actual debate?? “your” question can’t be found in Lynn’s comments?? strange? considering it’s “your” question ?? it would be in your comments wouldn’t it?? Maryann deadfern?
Now Terry, you’re supposed be addressing answers to questions about your supersized pitbull (a German Mastiff crossed with a French Mastiff & your denial of owning a pit bull, including answering for the pit bull moniker that represents the name Terry Holt that is attached to it. You’re not supposed to be deflecting and dodging your own problems by poorly addressing lynn1954’s own deflections. People, this is the typical mindset and fraudulent tactics of a pit pusher, male or female, big pit, small pit, no pit. Pit people are the pits, their ways are sleazy.
wow ‘m not sure what you were trying to say there your ranting and raving like someone in dire need of some sort of mental medication??
and you wonder why no-one listens to your tripe filled rants based on nothing more then your absolutely baseless opinion?? get a life?
Marissa try googling Debunking Merrit Cliftyon !! he’s a science whore, he’s not an expert!! he’s an investigative journalist well he used to be! now he’s a hack a hater a foamer,, if he’s so legit why hasn’t even one of his articles been submitted for reveiw by his peers?? because he’s a lying hate filled hack a science imposter? and anyone quoting him as a source is either a fanatic or just plain mentally impired much like Merrit?
wow really Gabriel? and you know and can prove this or are you just being a slanderous troll like most foamers?? proof ?? Gabbi!!
Are you real Dan Saeger?? i googled seached you and found nothing ?? do you exist??
I don’t believe Marisa is either. Whomever she is posing at, though, is a very angry and unhappy individual. I am sorry for her unhappiness, but feel no need to share it just because misery loves company. Life events can sometimes beat us down if we do not have a faith to lean on. I’ll be praying for her.
she talks and bashes exactly the same as the deadshit maryann deadfern
16 children beat down by pit bulls last year. None of them will have the opportunity to get up.
Then some of your pit bull advocates desecrate a memorial to people killed by dogs set up in Grand Rapids, MI. Pit bull advocacy is an endevour for the morally bankrupt.
“””I am surprised the Sentinel has any dealing with such a man, he freely admits to murdering pitbulls with anti freeze on public forums, he makes rude and sexually suggestive comments to 12 year old girls, and he lies about the dogs that killed his son?? they were boxer mixes according to the organization that adopted them to Sussan iwicki?? oh and sentinel i’m expecting you to delete my comment AGAIN so i’ll be copy and pasting it to my foamer page and exposing your foamer tendencies if this sort of thing continues??”””
Okay, now we have to swab for DNA on our injured and dead kids after a dog attack? Let me tell you something,though I’m sure you have a pitbull to roll or a dogfight awaiting. If the attack victim is literally shredded, ONLY a mossoler could have done it. Pits are by far the most prevalent of the mossoler breed. They’re everywhere, and wildly affordable, if not even FREE. Yeah, maybe it was a Tibetan mastiff. But although I’m not a betting man I would lay my money On the pits.
looking at the amount of likes on your nonsense propaganda post i’d say dogbite fakes are out in force, it’s simple you like a post as a guest and then you log in and like again good trick only fools the sentinel thoufgh cause we all know your tricks?
I think there is a good chance that you are a fake profile, too.
i have personally seen atleast 2 instances where beatbox showed his true colors, once threatening to poison a neighbors pitbull with anti freeze and once where he told a 14 yr old girl to smear her privates with peanut butter and lett her mauler lick it off for a thrill?? not a nice person?
I have to admit that I haven’t seen these things you claim. Do you have proof?
so what about the other 4?? how does BSL help them?? how will BSL prevent similar deaths in the future?
It’s not realistic to try and prevent all dog bite deaths. I think you can reduce the remaining deaths by educating people about safety around dogs. Most of the non-pitbull deaths are of infants and small children. People need to keep their children away from large dogs and supervise their children around smaller dogs. The difference between pit bull attacks and other dog attacks is that pit bulls are bred to attack large animals (ie bulls). They kill adult humans, which most other dog breeds don’t do.
Any large dog breed is capable of killing a person. Children are susceptible because they are smaller, often the same height as the mouth of the dog, so the injuries will be more severe. Yes, children and dogs in the same location need supervision, and they need raising.
It’s more realistic to attempt to prevent all dog bites than to concentrate more laws on pitbulls and whatever you choose to call a pitbull this week. Nearly every town has leash laws, laws about the confinement of he dogs, animal abuse, etc. If they were enforced indiscriminately, all animal owners held responsible for their pets, you could eliminate dog attacks. Make sterilization affordable for all dogs, inspect and license breeding operations, limit the number of dogs per residence with out a special permit, enforce the federal animal abuse laws. Don’t try to tell me it is easier to just reduce the incidents by eliminating pitbulls, when you have perfectly enforceable laws on the books right now that you don’t enforce.
When you are jogging down the road, or your kid is going to school, there is no reason in the world to know some kind of weird stuff about negotiating with somebody else’s dangerous dog or dogs that are trying to go for your throat. F##k that! That freaky dangerous dog is for the owner to know about, to keep locked up on the owner’s property. Everybody does NOT have to be involved with pit bulls or know some maneuvers when they are up in your face. Pit bull people need to be sure the dogs are being placed with people who can seriously manage them in light of PUBLIC SAFETY. As for me, I don’t even want to look at your pit bull. It seems pit bull people even taunt and make fun of peoples’ well founded repulsion for these dogs. Experience is a thorough teacher.
what a load of garbage we want to stop all dog bite related deaths try as you me there’s no excuse for ignoring victims of non banned breeds like you do.
Among the many problems associated with breed specific legislation and its enforcement against pit bulls are the issues associated with identification. “Pit bull” is not a breed, but rather a generic term used to describe the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier. However, the physical traits and characteristics shared by “pit bulls” are also shared by approximately twenty-five (25) other breeds that are not typically classified as bully breed dogs. Obviously, this causes great difficulty in identification and allows for discriminatory and subjective actions by animal control officers.
Find the Pit Bull is an excellent tool to demonstrate the difficulty of identifing a purebred American Pit Bull Terrier. Click here to take the test yourself.
A former Ohio dog warden, Tom Skeldon, who was called as an “expert” on behalf of the City of Toledo in the matter of Toledo v. Tellings testified that there is really no way to tell if a dog is or is not a pit bull, and the determination is made by animal control officers’ subjective judgment. Toledo v. Tellings, 2006 WL 513946 (Ohio App. 6 Dist) March 2006
[Breed bans] carry with them too much potential for arbitrary or improper enforcement: inaccurate breed identification by officials and difficulty enforcing breed bans against mixed-breed. Source: AnimalLaw
[W]e conclude that the subjective identification of pit bulls may often include both non-pit bulls or dogs which are not vicious…[laws] based upon that identification process, we conclude that they are unconstitutionally vague. Toledo v. Tellings, 2006 WL 513946 (Ohio App. 6 Dist) March 2006
I have found that if the media or a cop says a particular dog is a pit bull, then so does the CDC and all of the sheep in this country that believe ever thing the media tells them and that a cop will say. Not at all scientific, particularly when you consider that news stories will sometimes start with one breed of dog being identified, but then the breed changes for dramatization of the story in an attempt to sell more papers or to get people to “Tune in at 11:00!!!!!” Americans are always much more interested in drama than in facts, and the media has made great use of this knowledge.
Pit bull is a broad, not a narrow category and can and should include molosser breeds that are used (have been used, & are traditionally bred) in dog fighting, as well as their intermixes. That of course includes APBT, reg or not, Amer bull terrier (derived from pits), Staffordshire terrier, pit bull, bull terrier, presa, tosas, cane corso, the latter 3 because they are mixed wi pits to make a bigger dog which is no less dangerous. Pit mixes, commonly with labs, are also dangerous dogs, because of the concentrated genes from pits. What is dangerous about these dogs? It is not that they have no charm, are not at times amusing. It is that they have great prey drive and attack wo warning, and their attacks are to kill the prey.
Go on craigslist and search for pit bull and see what comes up. Or, you could just say “If it walks like a duck, acts like a duck, and looks like a duck, it’s a pit. Oops, I mean, duck.
if you truly legitimately believed anything your were saying? you wouldn’t be hiding behind a fake profile? do you honestly expect people to take you seriously banana especially with a fake name like that??
Ma’am, or sir, your statement is a lie. That picture of pitbulls is a big fat fuckimg lie. I’ve a half pit half doberman dog. He is the sweetest dog in the world, and only play bites. Not ALL pit bulls are bad. Only the ones that hurt people are the abused an forced to fight ones. I say here should be no ban. the dog abusers that abuse pit bulls and force them to fight are the true reason fo all these attacks from pit bulls.
27 deaths due to Terrier attacks. (Pit Bull isn’t even a real breed, it is a generic term)
Statistics are not fully known, but there are an estimated 5 million such dogs in the U.S.
Hmmmm
That makes the fatal attack rate…. 0.00054%
If you want to ban my dog, you better find a hell of a lot more to base it on.
Your words are loaded and your understanding is tainted. If you were in prison for embezzlement for 10 years does that make you a murderer? No! But 9 times out of 10 the average american will assume if a person went to prison for a long period of time that they have been guilty of homicide. Strange how that works…. The media of all things are liars and have been found to be the deception kings! Dont blame the breed, blame the person holding the leash.
Jeff Borchardt would wish to save OTHERS from the agony of the loss of his only child.
Those who would attempt to suppress him, are, as always, the teeming and organised masses of the Pit Bull protectionists, who will hear NO criticism and suffer NO revelatory truths about the dogs that they so misguidedly push onto the public as ‘normal pet dogs’.
It is NO exaggeration for ANYONE to both investigate, claim and further reveal the truth about these dogs, namely that they do indeed KILL more people per annum than all other breeds or types of dogs COMBINED.
The names of the dead for this year so far are ALL searchable, using your own search engines. If anyone can ADD to this list of the American dead from dog attack for 2014, I CHALLENGE YOU TO DO SO.
This is not an issue of ‘let’s keep things in Colorado’. This is an issue that affects ALL of America. ALL of it. You are ALL suffering losses, whichever State you come from. And it is NOT just the deaths; it is also the numerous mutilating maul injuries perpetrated on the faces and limbs of fellow-Americans, to say nothing of the thousands of innocent pet animals, livestock and wildlife that are either slaughtered or left grievously injured by these blood sport dogs.
Do not mock the dead. Do not pretend that they did not live. Do not turn away from them. Do not believe that a tragedy is something that happens to a stranger and could never happen to you. These are AMERICAN PEOPLE, and they are DEAD BECAUSE OF PIT BULLS.
In loving memory – As Fall ends, and Winter draws in, we remember the victims of Pit Bull attack in America who did not live long enough to dream of Christmas 2014.
As we remember, we also sadly acknowledge that more names will join our list of Remembrance before this year is over. For them, the hands of the clock are approaching Midnight, and their Fate in the jaws of the most dangerous dog in the world, closes in.
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In January 2014, Christina Burleston, 43, of Texas perished in the jaws of two Pit Bulls. Betty Clark, 75, of Texas was also killed by two Pit Bulls. Little Kara Hartrich of Illinois also passed in her fourth year, after being attacked by family ‘pet’ Pit Bulls.
In February 2014, Je’vaeh Mayes, 2, of Texas was killed by a Pit Bull, alongside Braelyn Coulter, 3, of North Carolina who was killed by a family ‘pet’ Pit Bull.
In March 2014, little Mia Derouen, 4, of Louisiana was slain by a family ‘pet’ Pit Bull. Dorothy Hamilton, 85, of Texas was killed by two Pit Bulls. Joining them was 3 year old Christopher Malone of Mississippi, who was killed by family ‘pet’ Pit Bulls.
In April 2014, sweet John Harvard, 5, of Alabama was cruelly taken by a Pit Bull. Petra Aquirre, 83, of Texas also perished in the jaws of an American Staffordshire Pit Bull Terrier.
In May 2014, 20 year old Katie Morrison of Alabama was killed by 3 Pit Bull dogs, joined by Kasii Haith, 4, of Delaware who was slain by 3 Pit Bulls. Rita Pepe, 93, of Connecticut was also killed in May by a Pit Bull.
In June 2014, the Pit Bull dogs took a break from their ‘work’.
In July 2014, Logan Shepard, 7, of Florida was killed by 2 family ‘pet’ Pit Bulls, alongside 7-months-old Jonathon Quarles Jr of Ohio who lost his life in the jaws of 2 Pit Bulls.
In August 2014, Cindy Whisman, 59, of Ohio was slaughtered by her own ‘pet’ Pit Bull. She was joined by 6 year old Joel Chirieleison of Florida, who lost his life in the jaws of 2 family ‘pet’ Pit Bulls. Deriah Solem, 22 months, of Missouri was also slain by a family ‘pet’ Pit Bull. Also dying needlessly in August, was Javon Dade, 4, of Florida, killed by 2 Pit Bull dogs.
In September 2014, David Glass, 51, of Mississippi was slaughtered by a pack of Pit Bull dogs, and 75-year-old Alice Payne of Arkansas was killed by her ‘pet’ Pit Bull.
In October so far, 2014, an as-yet unnamed 59 year old man from California lost his life in the jaws of 4 Pit Bull dogs.
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So far in 2014, Pit Bull dogs have killed 23 out of the 31 American people slain by dogs. Of the 23, TWELVE were innocent young children. Of those 12 children killed by Pit Bulls, SEVEN of them were killed by family ‘pet’ Pit Bulls (Kara, Braelyn, Mia, Christopher, Logan, Joel, and Deriah).
Other types of Fighting Breed dogs such as Cane Corsos and Bull Mastiffs, killed FOUR Americans (we remember you, Klonda Richey & Craig Sytsma), including 2 children killed by Bull Mastiffs (we remember you, Raymane Robinson & Kenneth Santillan).
ALL other breeds and types of dogs COMBINED, have killed 4 Americans so far during 2014 (we remember you, Annabell Martin), 3 of which were children (we remember you, Summer Sears, Holden Garrison, & Nyhiem Wilfong).
As it has been for YEARS, 2014 will be yet another halcyon year for the Fighting Breed dogs, with Pit Bull dogs extracting the worst toll of all.
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We await the sad outcome for the rest of October, and the approaching inevitable losses for November and December 2014.
To see what the anti pit bull groups are like, just look at the icon above. Right Lesley?
You need very much to understand that this is not about ‘hate’; this is about knowledge and it is about EMBRACING TRUTHS. Are YOU personally happy at all the Americans being killed by Pit Bulls?
When you are ready to converse decently, we will do so.
It is absolutely about embracing truth! We agree on that. peer reviewed truth with empirical data and reviewed by experts in the field.
I prefer to let the dead and the mutilated speak.
Their voices are so much LOUDER than ‘experts in the field’.
🙂
if your hearing dead people Lesley? it’s worse then we thought you best get yourself off to a doctor darl? just saying! blink blink
So are you letting the deaths from other breeds and Not Pit Bulls speak also Lesley???
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/28/4…-/5889227/ in the attack, a large shepherd mix, and another dog, a Labrador retriever mix, …
https://www.wfla.com/story/25359134/girl-recovering-from-dog-mauling a chocolate lab, is in a 10-day rabies quarantine
GoodPooch Truth Bites – Fall River Coalition for Animal …
http://www.franimalcoalition.com/doc8.shtml
The headlines screamed: another ghastly ‘pit bull’ attack in Ontario.
…. A Labrador Retriever attacked the girl while she was petting it at a
pet expo. … Marie, Ontario, a child was bitten severely in the face
by a non-descript “small dog”
http://www.melbourne-petminders.com.au/dangerous-dog-attacks/
Another 83-year-old victim was killed by either a German
shepherd/Labrador mix or a … An 18-day-old child was killed in an
attack also involving a pit bull terrier/golden Lab mix. Golden
retriever: One dog responsible for an attack was rabid.
experts are made by TV ratings…there are few real in the field of any except for the accounts of real deaths… real maulings and if you don’t like the facts and can’t remove your blinders and at least look at reality, there may well be even more stringent restrictions in place…. not an outcome one seeks but by the whining and sniveling and mob insults the pit apologists continue to heap on reason and rational curbs for the well being of the community.
Said by McHeinous who is the worst when it comes to wishing injury or death upon children and an innocent disabled child.
How about you try HARD not to embarrass the Pit Bull Advocacy OR yourself, and quit the personal attacks? It makes you look so very ignorant and unworthy.
Grow up, man.
Please.
Lesley, I’m pointing out the sick minds of BSL advocates. You know that McHeinous has wished harm on an innocent and disabled child. Those comments have been made in the Facebook group you were once an admin of. In fact, you left the group because of the personal attacks on you from other members and due to the “frothing extremism” and “embarrassing nonsense about ‘asbestos bridges’, etc.
That has nothing to do with Joanna. Nothing at all. PLEASE try not to get confused with all the different scenarios, personal intrigues, and the boring daily minutiae of a large diverse group of Facebook users.
Joanna is a sweet person; the thought of her harming a child is absolute anathema to anyone but those who WANT to imagine such things.
I expect you can produce random sliced-up sentences from anyone’s account; take them out of context and make that person look bad – I see it all the time on those ludicrous ‘hate pages’ that you all love so much.
To give you an example, and one personal to ME, something I said was removed from a wider range of posts, where I had said that I could not keep arguing with such and such a person (a pro-Pit Bull person of rather lowered intellect), as it ‘felt like kicking puppies’. Within a couple of days, that comment of mine had been taken, cut and pasted, and presented as though I was making a new hobby out of maliciously kicking puppies. See how that works?
It really is so tedious, so childish, so immature, so amateur, so utterly pointless.
Her own words in these screenshots that were not taken out of context nor “sliced-up”.
https://foolishfolliestoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/mcginn2.jpg
I can’t make much sense of that. It looks to ME like something she posted when she was upset about some horrific Pit Bull being rehomed or adopted? We all post things in haste sometimes; how sad that such an obvious explosion of angst should be held against her and called out as a viable wish for the death of a child.
I can only tell you, to suggest that she is wishing such a thing IN REAL TERMS on any child, is utter nonsense.
Foolish Follies exists to humiliate and hurt people – I’ve looked at it a few times myself – some of the comments from your people are often absolutely appalling. Yet we do not bother to screenshot such sickness. It makes one wonder WHO is the most desperate of our two divided factions. WHO is it that NEEDS to make such accusations and accumulate such things?
Desperate and angry people, that’s who.
perfect example of the feeble minds of joanna,lesley,jaloney,denis,boof head etc? constantly wishing harm on people
There’s a reason why pit bulls are the dog of choice for criminals and other sociopaths.
Yep, there have been studies on it.
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
Volume 21 Number 12 December 2006
Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors
You really need to get a life. Following around victims of vicious attacks and taking screenshots of every comment they make so you can try to prove something about their character. Meanwhile you completely ignore how bad it makes your own character look that you have a collection of screenshots dedicated to specific people. Are you perfect? Have you always been polite and never gotten emotional and said something mean? I’m guessing you’ve said your fair share of cruel things, especially since you obviously enjoy tearing other people down. So maybe you should just focus on the issue of people and animals being mauled, dismembered and killed, pretend you are a grownup and stop making character assassinations like some sort of dirty politician.
denials and ignorance and lies rule your world Lesley get a life?
In my opinion…if you used the words “felt like kicking puppies” to describe something, you must actually know what it feels like to kick puppies. Don’t ya think?
we know exactly how it looks Lesley you demonstrate it for us on a daily basis?
more blah blah bull shite try sticking to some facts instead of the la la land chronicles which flood your mind constantly obviously?
Lesley you post that as if there are millions being effected by dog bites and attacks. That simply isn’t true. It is truly sad to hear of ANYONE that get injured or killed by ANY dog or animal, but you pit bull dog haters take it way too far. Trying to ban a breed of dog (s) that are truly sweet and very loving. Trained and treated the right way they are just dogs. Regular dogs. That is EMBRACING THE TRUTH. Try it sometime. It will truly open your eyes.
I include this response originally given to ColoRADogs, as replies have a nasty habit of being deleted. 🙂
Jeff Borchardt was also sent a message saying ‘let’s use Dax’s head as a football – he don’t need it – he dead – LMAO’.
And those kinds of messages are NOT rare.
The hatred for those who dare to speak the truth, is intense and it is GHASTLY.
Neither Jeff Borchardt or Colleen Lynn offer ‘disinformation’. Let the dead and the mutilated speak for themselves.
Pit Bull dogs and their heinous owners are utterly out of control. They refuse to understand the dogs, they refuse to embrace the horrific failings of the dogs, they turn away from those killed by them by pretending that there is no such thing as a Pit Bull (yet when one does something vaguely ‘heroic’, it is a Pit Bull), they blame the victims both dead or alive, they rescue Pit Bulls that are NOT salvageable, preferring to throw thousands of dollars at man-biting Pit Bulls rather than supporting the VICTIMS of these animals, they claim over and over again that Chihuahuas are more dangerous than Pit Bulls because they simply will NOT understand the differences between a bite and a Band-Aid and a mutilating injury that may leave you in a body bag or on a life-flight helicopter; they openly promote these child-killing dogs as ‘nanny dogs’; they bombard towns and cities that are trying to protect the members of the public by either introducing or KEEPING Pit Bull specific legislations, and most importantly of all, they absolutely REFUSE to countenance the TRUTH that Pit Bull Legislation is not ‘racist’ or ‘breedist’, not when it is PIT BULLS that are doing by far and away the most damage, including causing human fatalities, of all the dog breeds or types in America today!
SOMETHING HAS TO GIVE. We cannot keep soaking up these deaths as though they were meaningless. Faulty cribs have been recalled for less deaths than this!
Since WHEN has it become acceptable for a person to own a dog that is of a breed KNOWN to be highly dangerous and to cause more fatalities than all other breeds of dogs combined, and to INFLICT that dog on a whole community, and the family home that may contain innocent children in it.
It is absolutely clear that change will not come from within. These wilfully obstinate and devious people will NOT face any facts, and they will continue to wreak havoc until they are stopped by a combination of public outrage and legislative means.
Jeff Borchardt’s message in that newspaper is a means of communicating the TRUTH to the public that quite frankly should be a whole lot MORE outraged than it is at the moment.
This is not just about Colorado or any other single area; this is about America, and how Americans are being slaughtered and mutilated by a DOG, a creature that is supposed to be a pet, a companion, and a comfort to us.
23 dead Americans so far this year 2014, KILLED BY PIT BULLS – 12 of them American children – 7 of those children killed by ‘pet’ Pit Bulls. ALL OTHER BREEDS AND TYPES OF DOGS COMBINED HAVE KILLED 4 AMERICANS.
FACT.
Hi Thomas- Nice to see the name change again.
I am exactly who I am. I am NOT ‘Thomas’. (????)
Personal attacks may be your normal remit, but they do you a disservice in this arena.
Thank you.
No personal attack. The postings are cut and paste from Thomas McCartney.
Those are MY words and phrases; every single one of them. I have NOTHING to do with that person you mention. Nothing at all. Again, personal attacks do nothing for you.
Please go to my Facebook page and see for yourself. That which I have used formed part of a larger post which included a picture of an angel in the snow, commemorating the dead of America from Pit Bull attack so far in 2014. See ‘photographs’. MY work; no-one else’s. Own the truth, please; face facts.
Sorry Lesley. You are a wordsmith, and though i don’t share your view on Thomas, it is incredibly unfortunate that you in particular would be confused with him. I cherish your gift and that you use it to such a good end. Thank you.
lol!!! another fake it’s probably jaloney talking to herself as they often do?
wordsmith!! lol!! hate words yeah, smart word?? NO
Yes, they are hate words. We hate seeing children killed by pit bulls. We hate seeing grandmothers killed by pit bulls. We hate seeing young women killed by pit bulls. We hate seeing women with their arms torn off by pit bulls. You have a problem with that?
we’ve learnt all our personal attack techniques fro a true master ,,, YOU
ColoRADogs, Just another of his many Sybilike Personalities maybe?
pratice what you preach foamer?
These [people really don’t have a clue do they. If Lesley is Thomas I will eat my laptop
Oh the Ninja is real alright. She’s also not even in the United States. There are folks in England and other places that ALSO seem to think they have some right to tell US how to live..when they have a problem as big, or bigger than the US with dog attacks.
She’s buddies with Thomas/Lori though. And the cut/pastes are files I think they all keep..just to drag out and post to try to make their points.
Please do desist from such awful lies. I have NOTHING to do with that person. And have not for a LONG time. Those posts are my OWN work. Can we please stop this silly childish finger-pointing? If would be fine if it was true, but it isn’t. TRY and stay on track.
Hey, don’t worry about it. They are trying to get you off track with red herring and strawman tactics. Don’t let it happen. I wouldn’t care if you were this other person. Hell, now they’ll claim I am too probably 😉
Well, one does like to thought of as an original – I know you are right, although these poor wretches do tend to believe their own myths and lies. It goes with the territory, for sure. Oh well 🙂
MERRITT CLIFTON
DOG ATTACK DEATHS AND MAIMINGS, U.S. AND CANADA, 1982 THROUGH 2007 (UPDATED YEARLY)
Merritt Clifton’s study is a medley of newspaper articles that present a very biased and inaccurate overview of dog bites. It is more of an incomplete tally of severe bites than a study.
Media as only source of data
Clifton’s only source for his findings is the media, and he focuses on cases that required “extensive hospitalization.” This term is never defined in his article. It might mean stitches, or it might mean amputation.
it doesn’t take einstine to see the similarities in the posts of this/these persons, you all honestly think people are stupid, we’re on to you ,, they’re on to you, hence bsl is falling down world wide and we couldn’t be happier!!
They say when dealing with the mentally ill, to just ignore them. Act like their comments don’t exist. When they quit getting attention, they will go away.
And there are FAR FEWER maulings and deaths in UK BECAUSE OF THEIR BAN which as of Monday 10/20/14 will be much more stringent than it has been which will include minimum fines of 20,000BPS which is at today’s exchange rate $32,185.60….and prison time. Unless restrictions are in place in US localities, and enforced promptly, you may want to consider that as the bodies pile up around your doors, there will be an even worse set of consequences demanded by a public that will no long even listen to your lies and propaganda…. not one that real dog lovers are happy to contemplate.
I’m not certain where you fabricated your information from, but hospitalizations have skyrocketed in the UK from 4,611 in 07-08 to 6,312 in 12-13. In case you are as iffy at math as you are at telling the truth, that’s more. 37% more to be more precise.
I think you may have misunderstood Joanna’s post. She is talking about American Pit Bull Terriers, which are of course a BANNED BREED in the United Kingdom. Attacks from them are pretty rare, although sadly when they DO attack, they usually cause a death.
But, admittedly there is a HUGE problem of enforcement of the banned American Pit Bulls in the United Kingdom. Added to that problem, there are numerous long-legged Staffie Bulls on the streets that are clearly American-style Pit Bulls being fobbed off as ‘Irish Staffordshire Bull Terriers’ (not a recognised breed in the United Kingdom, and nothing less than a common savage Pit Bull).
Britain also has a bizarre glut of traditional Staffordshire Bull Terriers as well (Pit Bulls), carrying out numerous disfiguring attacks on people; they have been the ‘weapons’ dog of choice for the underclass for a few years now. As they get rescued, become unwanted, birth pups without a home, so too do they end up in Shelters where the British versions of the American bleeding-heart Fur-mommies think they will take some home and heal them with love and kisses. Say no more.
Without enforcement, BSL is obviously not as good as it ought to be. There is a hard-core of lawless people in the United Kingdom who openly parade American-style Pit Bulls on the streets. Seizure does not take place often enough, not until someone has been killed. But they are learning. A 6-month old child was killed by an American Pit Bull a couple of weeks ago. People are very angry. They are learning again, the full horrors of American Pit Bull dogs.
Inasmuch as America has an horrific glut of unwanted Pit Bulls, so too does the United Kingdom with its Staffordshire Bull Terriers and violent crossbreeds. The Shelters are full of them. People do not want them. They are persistently advertised on the television, on animal programmes, on veterinarian features.
Between these two types, the illegal American style Pit Bulls, the fake Staffies (the Irish Staffords), and the LEGAL Staffordshire Bull Terriers, it would not surprise anyone in the United Kingdom if hospitalisations for serious dog maul injuries are increasing.
Perhaps you misunderstood. She said “And there are FAR FEWER maulings and deaths in UK BECAUSE OF THEIR BAN”. That is not true, as is evidenced by the 37% increase in hospitalizations. 6312 is more than 4311, unless they teach you a different kind of math over there.
You’ve taken a HUGE leap of faith, there, my dear.
Increased hospitalisations are not necessarily down to the BANNED BREED, the AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER.
As I thought I had explained so eloquently, their attacks are infrequent, unlike the attacks from the LEGAL STAFFIE BULLS.
So, let me reiterate again…. An increase in hospitalisation cases due to dog attack injury is NOT INDICATIVE of BANNED AMERICAN PIT BULL DOG infiltration into our society. When a BANNED BREED AMERICAN PIT BULL DOG ATTACKS OR KILLS, it is called out for what it is, and it is EUTHANISED.
The attacks which you refer to are almost CERTAINLY caused by LEGAL STAFFIE BULL TERRIERS, and in news reports they are NAMED AND PHOTOGRAPHED AS LEGAL STAFFIE BULL TERRIERS.
We have had a recent child death from a BANNED AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER attack, as I explained. There was a huge hue and cry about it; the dog was euthanized. Without AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER BANS, there would almost certainly be a HUGE increase in deaths and hospitalisations, in ADDITION to the hospitalisations from the LEGAL STAFFIE BULLS.
So your ban isn’t working?
Like Denvers?
Q: Does BSL reduce dog bites?
A: No. BSL has not succeeded in reducing dog bite-related injuries wherever in the world it has been enacted. An analysis published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association explains one reason that BSL could not be expected to work even if particular breeds could be identified as high risk. The authors calculated the absurdly large numbers of dogs of targeted breeds who would have to be completely removed from a community in order to prevent even one serious dog bite-related injury. For example, in order to prevent a single hospitalization resulting from a dog bite, the authors calculate that a city or town would have to remove more than 100,000 dogs of a targeted group. To prevent a second hospitalization, double that number.[3]
• Denver, CO enacted a breed-specific ban in 1989. Citizens of Denver continue to suffer a higher rate of hospitalization from dog bite-related injuries after the ban, than the citizens of breed-neutral Colorado counties.[4]
• A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior, compared medically treated dog bites in Aragon, Spain for 5 years prior to and following enactment of Spain’s “Law on the legal treatment of the possession of dangerous animals” (sometimes referred to Spain’s Dangerous Animal Act) (2000). The results showed no significant effect in dog bite incidences when comparing before and after enactment of the BSL.[5]
• The Netherlands repealed a 15-year-old breed ban in 2008 after commissioning a study of its effectiveness. The study revealed that BSL was not a successful dog-bite mitigation strategy because it had not resulted in a decrease in dog bites. [6]
• The Province of Ontario in Canada enacted a breed ban in 2005. In 2010, based on a survey of municipalities across the Province, the Toronto Humane Society reported that, despite five years of BSL and the destruction of “countless” dogs, there had been no significant decrease in the number of dog bites.[7]
• Winnipeg, Manitoba enacted a breed ban in 1990. Winnipeg’s rate of dog bite-injury hospitalizations is virtually unchanged from that day to this, and remains significantly higher than the rate in breed-neutral, responsible pet ownership Calgary[8]
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
A new national survey commissioned by Best Friends Animal Society reveals that 84 percent of those polled believe that local, state or federal governments should not infringe on a person’s right to own whatever breed of dog they choose.
This survey*, conducted by Luntz Global, is consistent with a growing trend by many state and local governments that have repealed breed discriminatory provisions and enacted behavior-based, breed-neutral dangerous dog laws. Of the 850 polled, 59 percent were dog owners. Only four percent of those polled believed the federal government should dictate what breed of dog a person could own, while six percent supported state government restrictions and 11 percent local government limits.
Supporting the survey is the fact that 17 states have passed laws that prohibit cities and counties from banning or restricting dogs because of breed. Even the American Bar Association passed a Resolution 100 in August, 2012 calling for all political subdivisions to repeal breed discriminatory provisions.
Britain introduced the Dangerous Dogs Act in 1991, outlawing several breeds of dogs including types of pit bull, and thousands were impounded and put down. The law was changed in 1997 to give the courts discretion to allow a dog with a good temperament and that posed no danger to the public to be kept subject to tight restrictions.
However, with dog attacks still a significant problem there and countries such as the Netherlands and Italy having repealed their breed-specific legislation, there is now a debate about what should be done in Britain.
Lord Redesdale, who spoke to The Age from London, introduced a private member’s bill proposing to remove the emphasis on selected breeds and introducing greater punishments for irresponsible owners. However, without the support of the British government the bill is doomed to failure, but Lord Redesdale believes the publicity would encourage a rethink of the legislation.
Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/victoria/good-dog-bad-dog-20111206-1oh1q.html#ixzz391DTxMuX
Britains dangerous dog act of 1991 prohibited four fighting breeds: the american pit bull terrier, the japanese tosa, fila brasiliero, and dogo argentine, which they kept in the 1997 amendment. All existing dogs were grandfathered in, so any impounded and put down at the time would have been owner surrenders. Any put down afterwards would be ones that attacked, or from owners who chose not to register or comply with the act. They did not ban staffordshire terriers, which in the u.s can be duel registered as american pit bull terriers. It is from these that the majority of attacks to both dogs and humans occur. Also they’ve had deaths from related american bulldogs and bullmastiffs. The new heavy fines and jail sentence should help, but not to attacks on dogs.
So the law was not only useless, it increased serious attacks resulting in hospitalizations by 37% just in the last 7 years? I’m not sure what your point is.
National survey shows majority of Americans polled support freedom to choose dogs, regardless of breed
A new national survey commissioned by Best Friends Animal Society (https://www.bestfriends.org) reveals that 84 percent of those polled believe that local, state or federal governments should not infringe on a person’s right to own whatever breed of dog they choose. This survey, conducted by Luntz Global, is consistent with a growing trend by many state and local governments that have repealed Breed Discriminatory Legislation (sometimes known as Breed Specific Legislation or BSL) and enacted behavior-based, breed-neutral dangerous dog laws.
If you asked Americans if they would like the freedom to walk the streets without being attacked by dangerous dogs, they would probably support that too. There have to be some limits to protect society. There is a reason why you aren’t allowed to keep a pet tiger in your apartment.
(Just in case it vanishes)….
If it is being called a Pit Bull by its owner, by the victim’s family, by attending ACOs, by attending cops, by neighbours of both victim and owner, by pathology reports at post mortem from the vets…. did you want it to be the ubiquitous Chihuahua? Or some sort of vague ‘mutt’ or ‘mongrel’, or maybe a Lab Mix? Yes, we have ALL seen your ‘Lab Mixes’…
A Pit Bull Fighting Dog is NOT ‘just a dog’. Depending upon your stance, it has been DELIBERATELY re-shaped into MORE than a dog, or LESS than a dog. It is an animal that has been deeply removed from its origins as companion animal over hundreds of years; originating in England, the Bulldog and the (extinct) English White Terrier.
It has been bred-for-purpose over oceans of time, and is STILL being bred for NOTHING but heart-stopping and sudden violence, and a violence that is nigh-on impossible to stop once it commences. The dog that has been created by MAN to KILL other dogs. The dog that is no longer permitted (legally) to fight other dogs – robbed of its purposeful work, WHY is anyone surprised when a Pit Bull dog switches its astonishingly ferocious genetics on in the face of an innocent child, or a pregnant woman, or a tiny pet dog on a tram, or a disabled man in his wheelchair, or a woman out for an evening walk, or an elderly greyhound trying to leave a dog park with its owner, or a little boy playing on his bike outside his own home?
A dog that cannot guard effectively (too violent), cannot herd (will attack and mutilate livestock), cannot retrieve (hard mouthed and greedy), cannot work the earth (is not a terrier but a Fighting Bulldog), cannot be given any degree of trust with the safety of its owner (they randomly attack and KILL the owners that they love); cannot ‘nanny’ any child with a heartbeat (they kill more children per annum than all other dog breeds or types)… It is good for NOTHING but the violent activities of yesteryear – dog-fighting and bringing down large livestock in the open field for butchery. It is a confused, voracious Fighting Bulldog from days gone by, and it has NO place in polite civilised society, except perhaps as a fancy, a speciality, an Extreme Breed dog requiring specialist permits to own one.
It is also VERY good for those with the inclination to take a gut-wrenching gamble of the very worst kind; those people who think they can HOPE and DREAM their Pit Bull Fighting Dog into a trusted, loyal and loving family pet. And of course, every Pit Bull dog is a lovely family pet until or unless…. Some gamble! Gambles that are made on the faces and throats of the innocent children in the family, and by the safety and happiness of all those who must live around that animal!
We need to remember the days when children were able to play outside without fear of Pit Bull attack. When a little boy or girl could ride their bike without attracting a savage maul or worse from a Pit Bull. When a woman could take a walk in her neighbourhood, when a jogger could run without a Pit Bull taking him down like prey, when miniature donkeys and Alpaca could be left in the paddocks without their owners finding them in the morning with their throats torn out, their lips eaten, their legs shredded to the bone, their ears removed, and some of them still ALIVE in that condition, when people could sit with their little old pet dogs on their own porches, and know that no Pit Bull was going to come bursting through the fence and decapitate the harmless little dog. We need to remember what a dog IS.
And if it needs crating, if it needs containment, if it needs muzzling, if it needs putting into a room when you have visitors, if you have to watch it for every SECOND it is around your child (and so you should be), if it attracts so much unease and dislike, if it has become SO unpopular that it needs hordes of protectionists and hundreds of fake ‘hero Pit Bull stories’, if a MILLION OF THEM DIE IN SHELTERS ANNUALLY, UNWANTED, then it is NOT a ‘pet dog’. It has become the elephant in the room, only THIS elephant is America’s man/child/woman-killing Canine.
People need to set their sights higher, want better things for their children, be safer in their own homes, choose NORMAL dog breeds. These dogs are not like other dogs; they are not supposed to BE like other dogs. People forget this. At their own peril.
Potential for skewed population due to breed misidentification
The study author does not explain how breeds are identified, but the reader supposes that the breed is taken off either license or citation paperwork. This means that, in the case of a license, the owner decides what a dog’s breed is. In the case of a citation, an animal control officer probably decides what a dog’s breed is.
This naturally leads to a serious question about identification accuracy, especially since most dogs are not purebred. For instance, animal control officers may have been inclined to over-identify troublesome dogs as “pit bulls” because the category is broad and vaguely defined, and because Ohio’s state law at the time gave animal control more tools to deal with problematic “pit bulls” than with other types of problematic dogs, thus encouraging them to declare dogs “pit bulls.”
Barnes also observes that “some owners license a HR [high risk] dog such as a Pit Bull as another breed, such as Boxer” to avoid the automatic designation of “vicious” that Ohio placed on pit bulls. Obviously, this suggests that Barnes’s population may be skewed due to the effects of BSL; some dog owners were intentionally misidentifying their dog’s breed, and Barnes has no ability to correct for this problem. This means that data for the other breeds tallied by Barnes may actually have been data for pit bull mixes that were intentionally recorded by the owners as a different breed.
Barnes also includes two “breeds” that aren’t recognized by any reputable kennel club—the “Ahra” and the “Terripoo.” It is not clear what an Ahra is, but Terripoo might be a mix of poodle and terrier, so the latter, at least, should have been included as a “mixed breed.”
30 popular myths and random amount of Foamer sayings
July 26, 2014 Dogs, Foamer, humor, Pit Bulls, Uncategorized
Myth #1: It’s the owner not the Foamer
Myth # 2: It’s impossible to identify a Foamer
Myth #3: Human-aggressive Foamers were “culled”
Myth #4: Fatal attack statistics about Foamers are false
Myth #5: The media conspiracy against Foamers
Myth #6 Foamers are unpredictable
Myth #7: Foamers are experts and their word is the truth. The ONLY truth
Myth #8: Foamers are the most popular people in America
Myth #9 Foamers pass all mental health and psychiatric tests
Myth #10 Punish the deed not the breed (of Foamer)
Myth #11 Foamers are usually successfully employed
Myth #12 Foamers were once known to be important people
Myth #13 Foamers will be perfectly okay with you having a different opinion
Myth #14 There’s no need to heavily medicate a Foamer before letting them mingle in public
Don’t forget to attend our ‘Million Foamer walk’ on random streets and imagine anyone really cares about your flyers.
Myth #15 Its not an attack if the Foamer is not frothing at the mouth
Myth #16 There is no bad Foamers… Just really horrible decisions
Myth #17 I ‘ve seen toddlers more aggressive than Foamers
*giggles*
Myths #18 FSL (Foamer specific legislation) would never ever work. EVER.
Myth #19 Foamers are the Best babysitters ever… (please, in all seriousness, never leave your child with a Foamer.)
Myth #21 A Foamer is the sweetest person ever.
I really have to seriously question #9. I think that maybe they are under a “special doctor’s” care. It just seems to me that some days their meds just haven’t kicked in yet or the thorazine has worn off a little too soon.
^^That right there is the mental state of pit bull apologists.^^
You think it’s funny to make fun of people like Jeff Borchardt, whose son was killed by pit bulls? That makes you a sociopath, in my opinion.
Foamer= Train enthusiast. How did we get on trains now?
MEDIA BIAS: THE PIT BULL PAPARAZZI
A study by the National Canine Research Council reveals biased reporting by the media, its
devastating consequences for dogs and the toll it takes on public safety.
Consider how the media reported four incidents that happened between August 18th and
August 21st:
August 18, 2007 A Labrador mix attacked a 70-year-old man sending him to the hospital in critical condition. Police officers arrived at the scene and the dog was shot after charging the officers. This incident was reported in one article and only in the local paper.
August 19, 2007 A 16-month old child received fatal head and neck injuries after being attacked by a mixed breed dog. This attack was reported two times by the local paper only.
August 20, 2007 A 6-year-old boy was hospitalized after having his ear torn off and receiving severe bites to the head by a medium-sized mixed breed dog. This attack was reported in one article and only in the local paper.
August 21, 2007 A 59-year-old woman was attacked in her home by two Pit bulls and was hospitalized with severe injuries. This attack was reported in over two hundred and thirty articles in national and international newspapers, as well as major television news networks, including CNN, MSNBC and FOX.
“Clearly a fatal dog attack by an unremarkable breed is not as newsworthy as a non-fatal attack by a pit bull” says Karen Delise, researcher for the National Canine Research Council. People routinely cite media coverage as “proof” that pit bulls are more dangerous than other dogs. Costly and ineffective public policy decisions are being made on the basis of such “proof”. While this biased reporting is not only lethal to an entire population of dogs; sensationalized media coverage endangers the public by misleading them about the real factors in canine aggression. (Animal Farm Foundation & National Canine Research Council)
DOG BREED POPULATION VS. BITE FREQUENCY
Breed No. of Fatal Attacks Number Registered Percentage
Chow Chow 12 240,000 .705%
German Shepherd 67 800,000 .008375%
Rottweiler 70 960,000 .00729%
Great Dane 18 128,000 .01416%
Doberman 14 114,000 .012288%
St. Bernard 10 72,000 .0139%
American Pit Bull 60 5,000,000 .0012%
Statistics of registered breeds taken from AKC, A.D.B.A and UKC and number of fatal attacks
data is from the CDC study.
Citing pit lobbyist Delise and the pit bull breeder group NCRC as a credible source just doesn’t cut it.
using dogbite as a source!!! for what propaganda?? how about Jeff uses some reputable sources which have not been exposed to be nothing more then a pitbashing organization that uses Merrit Clifton junk research as scientific statitistics? what a joke!! Colleen freely admits BSL is about killing piutbulls, she also states clearly that she hoped by killing pitbulls the bite stats would fall but they havn’t it’s quite the contrary as the death toll surpasses previous numbers alrerady this year?? If Daxton’s friends truly cared about community safety Jeff wouldn’t be telling everyone they’re perfectly safe so long as there’s ne pitbulls around which couldn’t be further from the truth?? Grow a pair Sentinel and kick this moron Bogart to the street!1 he is directly through his actions adding to the death toill and the anquish of victims and citizens alike?? I am sorry if I havn’t fullfilled Jeff’s perception of a “pitnutter”” you see I don’t even own a pitbull and it’s the same with a lot of pitbull advocates!! we don’t receive money from the pit fighters as Jeff regularly claims we simply want to stop all deaths and not the pitbull related deaths and if Jeff was concerned with community safety as opposed to wanting revenge against a a breed/type of dog because of the 2 dogs that killed his son, a death that has raised a lot of questions about not only the dogs but the baby sitter too, any one who reads the whole story surrounding what happened to Dax would be asking questions many things don’t make sense but the only ones that really know what happenede that day are Dax and Sussan and Dax is dead and Sussan is lying clearly having changed her story several times much like Colleen talking about her attack, both of which are very suspicious??
Every mainstream national organization that is involved in canine/human interactions is opposed to laws targeting specific breeds of dogs. An at-least partial list of these organizations include:
American Dog Owners Association
American Humane
American Kennel Club (AKC)
American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA)
American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)
American Working Dog Federation
Association of Pet Dog Trainers
Best Friends
Center for Disease Control
Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)
International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants
International Association of Canine Professionals
National Animal Control Association
National Animal Interest Alliance
National Association of Dog Obedience Instructors
National Canine Research Council
No Kill Advocacy Center?
what about victims of non pitbulls Lrsley, if you hear the voices of the dead why don’t you hear them ,, well luckily we’ve complied them all for you on this page not that you’d be interested though?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/WHAT-ABOUT-US-Colleen/1536066023275834?skip_nax_wizard=true&ref_type=logout_gear
Terry, I would like to know what you are doing to help the victims of non pitbulls ?
No pit bull advocate cares about victims, canine or human. they only care about their pit bulls dogs. Even that is in question. By promoting pit bulls, a fighting breed dog, they cause more harm than good.
American Bar Association (ABA) urges repeal of all breed-specific laws
Posted on August 7, 2012 by admin
On Monday, August 6, 2012, the American Bar Association (ABA) House of Delegates, meeting at the 2012 ABA convention in Chicago, approved a resolution urging “all state, territorial, and local legislative bodies and governmental agencies [. . .] to repeal breed discriminatory or breed specific provisions.”
This comprehensive recommendation is accompanied by an extensive report detailing the legion of problems associated with breed specific regulation, including significant questions of due process; waste of government resources[i]; documented failure to produce safer communities[ii]; enforcement issues connected with identifying the dogs to be regulated or seized[iii]; and infringement of property rights.
The complete resolution and accompanying report can be read by clicking here.
The American Bar Association (ABA), founded in 1878, considers itself to be the world’s largest voluntary professional organization, with some 400,000 members. In addition to being dedicated to accrediting the nation’s law schools and providing practical resources for legal professionals, the ABA prides itself in working to improve the administration of justice.
In addition to urging repeal of all breed specific regulations, Resolution 100 endorses “breed-neutral dangerous dog/reckless owner laws that ensure due process protections for owners, encourage responsible pet ownership and focus on the behavior of both individual dog owner and dogs[.]“[iv]
With the passage of Resolution 100, the ABA adds its name to the long list of national organizations opposed to breed specific regulation, including the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and the National Animal Control Association (NACA), the association of animal services professionals charged with enforcing the nation’s animal ordinances.[v]
SOURCES: American Bar Association (ABA). Resolution 100. (August 2012). [Text of Adopted Resolution and Report] Accessed at: https://www.abanow.org/2012/06/2012am100/
Cassens-Weiss, Debra. Annual Meeting of the ABA House of Delegates. (August 6, 2010). Pit Bull Bias? ABA House OKs Resolution Urging Breed-Neutral Dog Laws. ABA Journal. Accessed at: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/pit_bull_bias_aba_house_oks_resolution_urging_breed-neutral_dog_laws/
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Sure, more law suits for lawyers. It’s another source of income.
Canine Behavior and Genetics
By Dr M Malini DVM
Canine Behavior
1. Genes do not cause anything. They don’t cause breast cancer; they don’t cause aggression; they don’t cause blue eyes or
floppy ears. Saying that genes cause problems is a device used by those who a) dont know any better or b) are seeking a
quick-and-dirty way to reduce an incredibly complex concept to a sound-bite for the masses.
2. Aggression per se is not a problem. There isn’t a single living being who doesn’t owe his, her, or its existence to the
willingness of his, her, or its ancestors to display aggression. Sperm compete with each other, developing mother and fetus fight
over scarce resources, as do developing young from moment of conception until death possibly years later. Without a willingness to
display aggression, none of us would be here. To me that means that the probability of any DNA associated with aggression in any
dog breed being relegated to that relatively small amount that separates one breed from another is extremely low. The principle of
conservation of energy would seem to guarantee that aggression is simply too fundamental and important a characteristic for
survival in all living beings for that DNA associated with it to be distributed that way. It seems far more likely that all the “recipes” for
aggression reside in that large lump of genetic material we share with at least the bulk of animal life if not all living things.
3. No agreement exists on the definition of normal aggression, let alone problem aggression. A dog who attacks a serial killer
trying to off his owner is a hero; a dog who attacks the local minister is a killer. Some owners think a dog has a right to bite a child
who kicks the animal; other people believe that no dog should ever bite any human under any circumstances. Some clients come to
me because their dogs bit someone else after biting only family members for years. Other comes for exactly the opposite reason:
the dog is now biting them as well as everyone else.
4. Even if we could agree on a definition of problem aggression and isolate what will surely be the multiple genes associated with
it, the most we could do would be to attribute that particular behavior to a particular dog in a particular situation. That is, behavior only
has meaning in context. Behaviors may be described as, for example, dominant or subordinate, but the dogs cannot be except in
that particular situation.
5. Police, shelter workers, insurance company reps, medical personnel and others who may be involved in dog bite cases often
have little or no knowledge of normal dog behavior. Because of this, they often don’t get any kind of meaningful history because they
don’t know the right questions to ask. Consequently, in order to say anything meaningful about the attack, we need a decent history.
Without it, the most we can do is guess which is, unfortunately, more often the case than not.
6. In volume VII, No #4 1994 of the interdisciplinary bond journal, Anthrozoos, theres an interesting article entitled “Dog on a
Tightrope: The position of the dog in British society as influenced by press reports (1988 to 1992)” by Anthony Podberscek. Although
theoretically dated as research articles go, the material is a fine example of the old saying that the more things change, the more
they stay the same. Podberscek contends that “the media, public, and government response to dog attacks is an overreaction to the
generally held ideal that the dogs position in society is as a loyal and faithful companion,” a relationship based on what those of us
in the bond arena refer to “disneyfication.” Because of the ideal arises from myth rather than recognition of normal canine behavior,
the dogs relationship to us is highly unstable. Podberscek also points out that, even though rottweilers and GSDs were involved in
numerous attacks, both of these breeds were eliminated from Britains Dangerous Dogs Act which only named four breeds: “the
type known as Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino, and Filo Braziliero.” The fact that the latter two breeds didn’t exist in
the UK and there was only one Tosa in the country at that time makes it clear that this law was not about protecting the public from
dog attacks. I agree with Poberscek that the reason these dogs were targeted and the far, far, more numerous rottwieler’s and
GSD’s were not was because the former were associated with drug dealers whereas the latter were associated with the police work
and as guardians of estates and places of business. Thus the banned dogs became the symbol of what the media and public
hoped to do to the drug dealers lock them up, muzzle them, or put them down.
It seems to me that 10 years later, the parallels between breed bans and ethnic cleansing and the fact that those viewed as
minorities in certain areas may still be over-represented among drug dealers and dog fighters suggest that this projected
symbolism remains alive and well.
7. Relative to the medias penchant for seeing a pit bull every time they report a dog attack, it reminds me of a phenomenon in
psychiatry known as “semantic contagion.” A corollary of this is medicine is”meetingitis.” What happens is that, as soon as
someone starts writing or talking about a problem, people start to see it everywhere. Years ago everyone was having nervous
breakdowns, then they were all schizophrenics. Now everyone’s depressed. My dentist is so susceptible to this that I always make
sure not to schedule an appointment with him for the week after he returns from a meeting because I knew that, regardless what
problem I went in with, Ill come out with the one he heard about that week. I used to work for a veterinarian who did the same with
medical diseases and I know the same thing happens with behavioral problems. In spite of the fact that no agreed on definition for
separation anxiety exists (either), its surprising how many dogs now have this problem. Given the tendency for the human mind to
work this way, it wouldn’t surprise me if the same thing happens in the media when it comes to pinning breed labels on dogs.
Granted some unscrupulous journalists undoubtedly will refer to a biting dog as a pit bull or pit bull type even if the animal is
obviously a ShiTzu if it might increase the chance the wire services will pick up the article. However, I think that, aside from whatever
breeds a person happens to know from personal experience, most people recognize relatively few purebreds. Rather they lump
dogs in often highly nonspecific, arbitrary groups such as “yappy little dogs” or “squashed nosed ones.” Hence the person who
looked at the Boston terrier and said, “Is that a mini-pit bull?”
8. In keeping with disneyfication, the human-animal bond is often reduced to a public relations or marketing device. In reality, the
nature of the human-canine relationship plays a critical role in canine aggression. In spite of the fact that owners often express
shock when their dog bites them or someone else, a complete history of the dog and its relationship reveals a scenario that more
often than not unfolds like a Greek tragedy. The question is rarely if these dogs will bite, but merely when, who, and where. Just as
its virtually impossible to change a dogs or humans behavior without changing their physiology and vice versa, its also impossible
to change their relationship without changing the other two. What those who seek to ban breeds and even ultimately the entire
domestic canine species fail to recognize is that humans and dogs co-evolved for thousands of years. We are as physiologically
and behaviorally dependent on them as they are on us. At the same time that we think were training them, they’re training us. At the
same time as theyre enhancing (or undermining) our health, were doing the same to them. Behavioral ecologist Ray Coppinger
refers to dogs as parasites. I would agree that they do function as physical parasites, but we even the ante by emotionally
parasitizing them by projecting our most intimate and sometimes neurotic and totally self-serving symbolism on them, unmindful of
the stress this may create. (Although some dogs are becoming highly skilled emotional parasites, too.)
9. Because of the physiological and behavioral effects of domestication, the ideal human-canine relationship should mimic that
between a mature adult animal and a pup. The term used for the parental role is leader rather than parent to distinguish this
relationship from primate parenthood. This is necessary because primate parenthood is initially highly reactive, a form of adult
response that communicates subordination in canines. Unfortunately, many people erroneously associate leadership with
(reactive) dominance and dominance with the ability to win fights. The net result is that aggressive dogs often don’t recognize
human leadership because their owners don’t communicate it. Instead they see their owners as competitors or pups. This
relationship then affects how they related to other people, too. In my experience, owners and others don’t communicate leadership
to dogs either because they don’t know how or because they don’t want to be leaders. (We also happen to live in a society in which
the lack of human role models is rampant with those championed as “leaders” actually being energy-squandering folk who lack
sufficient leadership skill that they have no choice but to dominate by force. The true leader isn’t the individual who wins the fight, but
rather the one who possesses so much presence he or she need’nt fight at all.)
Myrna Milani D.V.M.
TippingPoint, Inc.
Charlestown, NH
I am curious about this post and my question is a little off topic — but did this vet really says that genes do not cause eye color? Certainly in humans there are 2 genes that are important determinants in eye color OCA2 and HERC2. Is that an old reference you used? To say genes do not cause one to have blue eyes strikes me as a little odd. I know that eye color is very complex and it is not just one gene but all the human genome mapping has increased the understanding. May I ask how low ago was this said?
From what I have seen – the pit bull apologists are much quicker to name-call, put down, and make insinuations.
I can’t find any citations for the following breeds. Can you point me in the right direction to find that info? You say “pit bulls” but none of the bully breeds show up in my searches for recent fatalities.
American Bulldog
American Pit Bull Terrier
American Staffordshire Terrier
English/Standard Bull Terrier
Miniature Bull Terrier
Olde English Bulldog
Staffordshire Bull Terrier
You have SERIOUSLY go to be kidding me.
All those dead Americans, and you refuse to do your OWN work on your OWN Search Engine to prove what killed those people?
You have been given the names. Now use them. Show some humanity, and quit being so lazy.
Good lord.
American Bulldog–0
American Pit Bull Terrier–0
American Staffordshire Terrier–0
English/Standard Bull Terrier–0
Miniature Bull Terrier–0
Olde English Bulldog–0
Staffordshire Bull Terrier–0
Do you have different information?
Search craigslist, you’ll find lots of pit bulls listed there.
I wasn’t aware Craigslist tracked dog bite fatalities. Can you point out that section to me?
Pit bull breeders and frustrated pit bull owners are always trying to unload their pits. Craigslist is just another outlet.
Thanks. What does that have to do with my question?
A “pit bull,” is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
So you can’t actually provide breed specific citations?
Pit bull advocates celebrate pit bulls as one breed. You can’t have it both ways dude.
That is a citation. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
Do you have no record of any of those breeds causing a fatality? I’ve read the courts opinion. It cited no fatalities by breed.
If you can’t figure it out, I can’t help you anymore than I have. Good luck!
Aren’t we talking about a breed group that encompasses all of those? A breed group designated “pit bull”!
So easy peasy. Show me the deaths relating to any of those breeds specifically.
You can decide for yourself. There are pictures online of almost all of the offending dogs involved in human fatalities. You can determine yourself if these dogs meet your criteria for this breed group. You will have to rely on physical characteristics.
No worries. “I can’t answer your question” would have been easier, but whatever works.
the thing is if you really cared and it wasn’t about murdering as many pitbulls as you can you might not be attacking people calling for a stop to all the deaths by dogs and not just the attacks by pitbulls?
As I’m sure a quick conversation with anyone of the families of those victims of non pitbull who you and your foamer kin totally ignore showing little to no concern for them as compared to the passion and commitment that you protest the victims of pitbulls or more specifically pitbulls themselves??.
unfortunately for you but fortunate for pitbulls your eagerness to both ignore victims of non pitbulls and constant manipulation of the facts and obviously staged performances all at the hand of the maestro queen culleen?
Whom openly admits bsl is about killing pitbulls and it was “hoped” that by killing as many pitbulls as you can would cause the bite numbers to fall, but it hasn’t obviously as bsl is being repealed world wide as studies indicate it doesn’t lower the instances of dog..
bite..
the depth of the hatred displayed by pitbull haters, ie foamers is distressing to say the least with many many disturbing cases whereby pets have been mercilessly murdered some cowardly like with sneak around tactics involving anti freeze, razor blades, glass, poison, and guns baseball bats and een cars escalating recently with a manson style knife attack in front of many witnesses including families and young children including the abusers own children..
when your whole hate revenge and hate driven murder pplot falls down don’t go blaming the advocates because honestly you have brought it on your selves with your lies, and violent tendencies and regular displays which by the way, are the kicker,,,
just sayin?
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Aug 29, 2007 – 25 press release, the National Canine Research Council completed a study that it says demonstrates the media’s bias against pit bulls when it …
The Truth About Pitbulls
http://www.dontbullymybreed.org/
Pit Bulls are not an aggressive breed of dog. … Due to media bias and frenzy, the public has been mislead into thinking Pit Bull attacks are of epidemic …
The media takes its lumps over reporting about pit bulls – Fetch
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Jul 18, 2010 – In fact, pit bull supporters in general seem to think the media has …. the dog’s breed in the headline is racial discrimination against that breed.
Pit Bulls and the Media – Dogs – Blogs – Times Union
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May 9, 2012 – The media is always quick to spread the news when a pit bull … The fear is not based on any sort of reality, but rather completely on media bias. ….. run by a dog bite victim who still holds a grudge against all bully breeds.
Media Bias – Punish the Deed, not the Breed!
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In most cases we have found that the media reporting on canine related stories are extremely biased against pit bull type dogs. Example stories. Dog attacks …
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Aug 29, 2012 – On the Coast associate producer Matthew Lazin-Ryder looks into whether the media is biased toward reporting pit bull attack stories — while …
Is there a media bias against pit bulls? | The Happy Pit Bull
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Sep 1, 2012 – I believe the reason is a biased view against Pit Bulls, or any bully breed for that matter. The media perpetuates fear and the Pit Bull is …
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Sep 9, 2010 – Pit bulls, however, were only involved in about 20% of the dog bites in the … In Denver’s case, the apparent media bias of its newspapers and …
Advocacy Overdrive – Stop Verbal Violence Against Pit Bulls
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Pit bull bias – Ombudsman Radio-Canada
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Sep 18, 2013 – … story and that the media has created the bias against these dogs. … of the inherent bias CBC journalism displays against pit bulls, and cite …
Scientific Studies
Some food for thought before we delve into this complicated subject, stated elegantly by an expert on dog attack statistics:
There are many studies and data related to dog bites and dog attacks. However, dog attacks on humans occur in the course of complex interactions between two sentient beings and occur in the most uncontrolled and unscientific settings, involving dozens of variables and circumstances which cannot be measured accurately.
For these reasons, there is no “science” behind any of the studies conducted on cases of dog attacks.—Karen Delise (NCRC website, Dog Bite Statistics: Science or Junk Science?)
Dog Attack Statistics: A Primer
by J. Thomas
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”—Benjamin Disraeli
Journalists who wish to use dog bite statistics in their articles must be familiar with proper interpretation of those statistics and must also have a fundamental understanding of the flaws that are inherent in the most popular dog attack studies available today. Unawareness of these flaws almost certainly guarantees misinterpretation of the numbers. Many journalists have already fallen into the traps presented by these studies, either by drawing their own incorrect conclusions or by perpetuating another journalist’s mistakes.
Where do the numbers come from?
There is no uniform dog bite reporting procedure, nor is there a national agency charged with collecting such data. Dog bite data is collected and reported haphazardly. Animal control departments, hospitals, law enforcementagencies, and state health agencies may all collect different types of data, or none at all.
For example, when this author contacted Jim Schuermann, Staff Epidemiologist (Zoonotic and Vectorborne Diseases) of the Infectious Disease Epidemiology and Surveillance Group of the Texas Department of State Health Services, in March 2005 to inquire why the state of Texas no longer tracked dog bite statistics, he replied:
I’m sorry to report that this program has been discontinued. There was never a legislative mandate which required animal control agencies to submit reports on Severe Animal Bites. Although the Zoonosis Control Division highly encouraged all animal control agencies to voluntarily submit these reports, we would receive only 500 to 600 reports a year, and none of the major metropolitan areas (Amarillo, Brownsville, Dallas, El Paso, Fort Worth, Houston, Laredo, Lubbock, or San Antonio) participated. As I’m sure you can imagine, without data from these cities the information we did manage to collect was severely limited in scope. We completed a program review and realized that the information collected could not be proven to be scientifically representative of the entire state and that analysis of the small data set we did collect did not reliably reflect statewide trends.
Because fatal dog attacks are so rare, they are slightly easier to track, and the CDC attempted one major study using fatal dog attack statistics (see below for analysis of the study). However, because fatal attacks represent an infinitely small fraction of all attacks, they cannot be considered representative of all dog attacks.
Several studies have attempted to gather dog bite information from news articles and other news media; in fact, Merritt Clifton’s often-referenced dog attack “study” relies entirely on news media. This is a particularly unreliable source of information about dog attacks, as shall be explained next.
First, not all dog attacks are covered by the media, and it is unclear what criteria is being used by the news media to decide whether or not to report a particular attack. If all dog bites were reported, approximately 915 dog bites would be featured in the news every day. To date, no one is tracking all of these dog bites.
And second, the news media frequently misidentifies breeds and types of dogs. Breed identification is next to impossible, especially in the case of mixed breed dogs (the majority of dogs in the U.S.). It often consists of a wild guess based on appearance, not DNA testing or any truly scientific method of identification. Journalists may record a dog’s breed based on statements from a victim, a neighbor, an animal control officer, a police officer, or a dog owner—none of whom may be experienced with breed identification. Journalists may also make a wild guess based on their own visual assessment of the dog. News media also tends to identify dogs as “pit bulls” even when they are not pit bulls. Corrections, if they are made, are usually obscure. Thus, breed-specific data from studies that rely on media sources to identify breeds must be considered non-scientific and unreliable.
“Animal control officers across the country have told the ASPCA that when they alert the media to a dog attack, news outlets respond that they have no interest in reporting on the incident unless it involved a pit bull. A quantitative study by the National Canine Resource Council of dog-bite reportage in a four-day period proves that anti-pit bull bias in the media is more than just a theory — it’s a fact.
August 18, 2007 — A Labrador mix attacked a 70-year-old man, sending him to the hospital in critical condition. Police officers arrived at the scene and the dog was shot after charging the officers. This incident was reported in one article in the local paper.
August 19, 2007 — A 16-month-old child received fatal head and neck injuries after being attacked by a mixed-breed dog.This attack was reported on twice by the local paper.
August 20, 2007 — A six-year-old boy was hospitalized after having his ear torn off and receiving a severe bite to the head by a medium-sized, mixed-breed dog. This incident was reported in one article in the local paper.
August 21, 2007 — A 59-year-old woman was attacked in her home by two pit bulls and was hospitalized with severe, but not fatal, injuries. This attack was reported in over 230 articles in national and international newspapers, as well as major television news networks including CNN, MSNBC and Fox.
This is a ridiculous comment. Animal Control does not call the media concerning dog attacks they simply respond to questions after the media picks up a story. Many pit bull attacks do not receive media attention even when severe. In all honesty after 25 years as a Director of Animal Care and Control I am not sure if they listen to police scanners to find these stories or have another method.
Lesley what about the victims of non pibulls?? here is a page about non pitbulls victims if your interested that is?
https://www.facebook.com/pages/WHAT-ABOUT-US-Colleen/1536066023275834?skip_nax_wizard=true&ref_type=logout_gear
Pit bulls have long been discriminated against in the companion animal world. They are deemed “dangerous dogs” simply because of what they look like and the violent “history” and “behavior” that supposedly courses through their blood.
What’s more, since breed identification can be inaccurate, many pit mixes or bully-like breeds are often immediately thrown into the “pit bull” stigmatization, decreasing the chance of their adoption and increasing their euthanasia rates.
In fact, dogs that fall under the “pit bull” breed designation have a staggering 93 percent euthanasia rate in the U.S. alone, with over 80 percent dying in shelters before their second birthday.
These statistics are truly unbelievable and what’s even more absurd is the fact that we have allowed this to happen, that as a society we have perpetuated so many misunderstandings about these dogs, who are, in actuality, very loyal and loving companions with the right guardian by their side, just like any dog
Pit bulls as other dogs require special management due to their inherent traits good and bad. It is the denial and failure to manage the dogs that has caused an increase in maulings. Yet, this isn’t due to irresponsible ownership if new owners were denied key components of the breed of dog they were getting. Form follows function so the way they look matters.
Unwarranted fear of “pit bulls” has brought about highly discriminatory laws called breed specific legislation (BSL) which has banned or severely restricted pit bull guardianship in a number of towns across the U.S.
However, now it looks like some states might finally be realizing just have futile and downright wrong BSL really is.
According to the Huffington Post, six states are “considering bills that would put an end of laws restricting dog ownership by breed.”
Hooray! Pit bulls (and us animal lovers) may soon get to celebrate!
The six states considering BSL repel bills include Maryland, Vermont, South Dakota, Missouri, Utah, and the state of Washington. If their bills pass, these six states will follow in the footsteps of 17 others that have “already passed laws that stop localities from discrimination against dogs by breed,” reports the Huffington Post.
Pit bulls have long been discriminated against in the companion animal world. They are deemed “dangerous dogs” simply because of what they look like and the violent “history” and “behavior” that supposedly courses through their blood.
What’s more, since breed identification can be inaccurate, many pit mixes or bully-like breeds are often immediately thrown into the “pit bull” stigmatization, decreasing the chance of their adoption and increasing their euthanasia rates.
In fact, dogs that fall under the “pit bull” breed designation have a staggering 93 percent euthanasia rate in the U.S. alone, with over 80 percent dying in shelters before their second birthday.
These statistics are truly unbelievable and what’s even more absurd is the fact that we have allowed this to happen, that as a society we have perpetuated so many misunderstandings about these dogs, who are, in actuality, very loyal and loving companions with the right guardian by their side, just like any dog
I have fought for these dogs my entire career. You mention how many pit bulls that are euthanized annually. No one can place a million dogs of the same breed year in and year out. The pit bull comminty is the first breed group to encourage more people to own the breed instead of less. Fewer people seeking them eventually means fewer births. Other breed groups have faced this issue of unpredictable aggression due to the indiscriminate over breeding of dogs. I don’t agree with BSL completly but the unintended consequence of fewer dying in shelters in a wonderful thing!
Q. What position do the leading animal-related organizations take on BSL? All of the following national organizations oppose BSL: American Animal Hospital Association, American Dog Owner’s Association, American Humane Association, American Kennel Club, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, American Veterinary Medical Association, Association of Pet Dog Trainers, Best Friends Animal Society, Canadian Kennel Club, Humane Society of the United States, International Association of Canine Professionals, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, and National Association of Obedience Instructors. In addition, many state and local-level veterinary medical associations and humane organizations oppose BSL.
Responsible pet ownership is key to prevention
All dog owners have an unequivocal responsibility for the humane care, including providing a license and permanent id, spaying or neutering their dogs, providing training, socialization, proper diet, and medical care, and not allowing a pet to become a threat or a nuisance.
An increased awareness of these responsibilities may be reflected in the increasing percentage of the investigations that arise from all DBRF’s that result in criminal prosecutions of the owners and caretakers (compiled as part of NCRC’s exhaustive investigation of each reported case[4]).
Pit bull proponents flood any publication that allows victims a voice with complaints. This is standard operating procedure. They are terrified that victim’s stories might be heard by Aurora voters. No other breed/type of dogs requires this level of advocacy.
We welcome stories along with the circumstances of what happened. That is how we prevent them from happening again.
Oh, Dear Lord, where shall we start? I have about 787 American stories logged right now, that’s only going back to 1/1/2014. I haven’t included the pet and livestock tragedies though… It could get a little lengthy if we did that. Maybe if we took out the dozen or so stories from dogs that weren’t pits or their derivatives we could shorten it up? Rolls eyes… Like, follow the news, dude. Just set a google alert for dog attacks in the press and stop living in denial!!
If breed is not one of the factors why is it that every single time I’m looking at a horrific mauling, maiming, dismemberment or fatality story about people and/or their pets being savaged, the perpetrator is most often a pit bull then? The risk is real. The dogs aren’t normal and were never intended to be family pets from the get go. The task they’ve been created to perform is so abhorrent, it’s illegal in every state of the Nation. They won’t all attack, but we can NOT tell the ones that will from those who won’t.
The pit bull advocates say all dogs bite and blame the owners, but that’s not what happens in real life. Addressing all the reckless owners of pit bulls has been a long tried, and most often failed, prospect which in the end, requires victims. Not dog bite victims, but pit bull attack victims. They’re not one in the same. A dog bite victim needs a bandage or a stitch, a pit bull attack victim needs a life flight to the nearest trauma ward to be reconstructed. You will never stop dogs from biting but we can stop pit bulls from maiming and/or killing people, their pets, livestock and wildlife. We shouldn’t be ending bans and BSL, we should be strengthening them and creating national restrictions, spay/neuter ordinances, mandatory insurance requirements, leash and containment statues. Phasing the dogs out of their companion animal status wouldn’t just save lives, it would help the dogs themselves. No pit bull ever suffered from not being born.There are a lot of things that could be done to mitigate the risks but first one must admit there are risks. The statistics bear that out when you’re not in complete denial.
I hope the good people of Colorado will see through the thinly veiled, deceptive propaganda from the collective “Pit Bull Lobby” and keep their Ban in place and well enforced. Save yourself the heartbreak, learn from what’s gone on in Ohio since they repealed their ban a couple years ago. It’s been a nightmare for them with attacks, mutilations and killings… Just awful. The risk isn’t worth it.
Hi Suzanne- Did you know that cities in Colorado who do not have breed bans enjoy bite rates that are half or more those of cities who do have BSL. Stated another way, BSL cities bite rates are 2-3 times that of non-bsl cities. That is hospitalizations from bites. you can look at it on the CDPHE site.
Bite rates are not the issue. You know this, yet you conflate it anyway. Obfuscate much?
Because of course people that are hospitalized with serious injuries don’t count right? Same old same old. we are actually trying to get dangerous dog laws and owner responsibility laws that protect ANYONE who is attacked, bitten, maimed, mauled or killed. The crazy thing to me is this..if laws were breed neutral and protected EVERYONE, they would also count for pit bulls..and if, as you all contend, no other dog ever did anything wrong, it would NEVER affect them..so why is it such a horrible thing to you to hold ALL dog owners, regardless of breed, responsible for the actions of their dogs?
So… Basically, what you’re saying is, because your breed of choice is the most aggressive and dangerous, every other breed should be maligned and thrown under the bus with it? I’m not really seeing an issue with all these “other dangerous dogs”. What I see are fighting breeds mauling, maiming and killing people and their pets. We have a very breed specific problem that you would like us all to share? I don’t get it….
We have NEVER contended that other breeds or types of dogs do nothing wrong. What a ridiculous statement. ALL serious attacks and human fatalities are covered by us. We hate them ALL! But you cannot get angry and impatient simply because it is PIT BULLS that are doing the majority of serious attacks and are responsible for nearly ALL of the human fatalities! If something IS specific; if it is one breed/type of dog that is ABSOLUTELY causing most of the harm, then breed specific legislation is absolutely right!
I don’t believe that “all dog owners” need to be penalized because pit bulls kill things. I also don’t believe that “all dogs” are causing the same kind of injuries and deaths that pit bulls are. I would like to see pits phased out as companion animals and END 75 – 85% of the most horrific attacks and egregious injuries. THEN, we can deal with the band-aid bites of most dogs… It’s not that I don’t care whether or not a lab causes a child to have stitches, of course, I do. But, for me, it’s more about pit bulls and other powerful fighting breeds, removing faces, tongues, mandibles, arms and legs and killing people. How’s that so hard to understand? All dog owners don’t need to be held all that responsible, pit bull, rotti, akita, et al, owners, on the other hand, most assuredly do. It’s not a level playing field, so stop trying to make a beagle bite equal a disfiguring mauling by a pit bull. Stop trying to normalize violent attacks by dogs, they’re not normal.
Your claim that DBO or the facts in Jeff’s ad are preposterous. Have you tried reading the news lately? News media stories are MULTI-sourced. You depend on them for every aspect of your life but suddenly they are all false when they report the very real epidemic of pit bulls attacking, mauling and killing humans, domestic pets and livestock at alarming rates? You discredit thousands of people across THE WORLD because you, yourself, haven’t experienced the devastation of pit bull attack on someone you care about? Isn’t that a little like saying I’ve never been in a plane crash, therefore they don’t exist
Hi Lisa- Yes we have. Actually our entire board is comprised of scientists so we are quite good at sussing out good data verses bad, along with having peer reviewed research papers published in some of our board members names. We do have someone in our group who was attacked by two rotties, another breed these groups look to ban. They were young, intact and at large. It was reckless ownership and not the dogs who do not posses a moral compass. We are not the people you are going to be able to bait nor are we uneducated in science, epi, public health or behavior. Please go look at our webpage for yourself.
Which of the people on the list of American dead killed by Pit Bulls, are actually NOT dead and/or were NOT killed by a Pit Bull or Pit Bulls. Please do tell us. And please do tell us if you can ADD to the list of the dead for 2014 so far. Roaming Rottweilers that attacked someone are ghastly, but please let us STICK with the subject in hand. Let us talk about the 7 American children who were killed by their ‘pet’ Pit Bulls this year, not by roaming, rampant, intact, stranger Pit Bulls.
We are sticking to the subject. What we are not doing is being baited into the usual vitriol. Things are not simple in this discussion Lesley and we won’t insult our community by lowering ourselves to the usual conduct that your group brings. The data exists and one only has to google it to find it. Hysteria does not protect public safety.
Dead Americans are not ‘hysteria’.
They are FAR more real than any ‘data’ you can provide.
You cannot deny the dead.
Can you?
why not you deny the victims of NON pitbulls and they’re dead too are they not Lesley?
You are really off base here. The topic is, was, and always has been the fact that pit bulls kill, and at far higher rates than any other dog. If you refuse to address that contention, you”re not even in the conversation.
if you had any proof, actual DNA etc you’d have a point but your being brain washed by a half smart overly medicated nutcase?
if you had any proof, actual DNA etc you’d have a point but your being brain washed by a half smart overly medicated nutcase?
Awww, they won’t answer them question. Screwed either way.
The dead cannot be denied, Jim.
They were denied their rights to safety, to life, to home and all that home means – love, warmth, promise of a future, family. Old women, babies barely 6 months old, trusting toddlers, merry little boys, adorable little girls, teenagers, pregnant women, the disabled, young, old, black, white, rich, poor, beautiful or homely – they all lost the ONE thing that they ever really owned. Their precious lives.
In the jaws of a known dangerous breed of dog. NEEDLESSLY.
They would have no-one to hear their lamentations, if good people did not speak up.
good people are speaking up and they’re saying your wrong and you know instead of listening to dead people try snapping back to the real world with us!! all breeds/types of dogs can and have killed americans and that’s a fact you seem to gloss over despite the ever rising death toll?? and we’re the nutters Lesley??
good people are speaking up and they’re saying your wrong and you know instead of listening to dead people try snapping back to the real world with us!! all breeds/types of dogs can and have killed americans and that’s a fact you seem to gloss over despite the ever rising death toll?? and we’re the nutters Lesley??
Q: What position do legal, animal-related, and non-animal related organizations take on BSL?
A: All of the following organizations do not endorse BSL:
American Animal Hospital Association, American Bar Association, American Dog Owner’s Association, American Humane Association, American Kennel Club, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, American Veterinary Medical Association, American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior, Association of Pet Dog Trainers, Australian Veterinary Association, Best Friends Animal Society, British Veterinary Association, Canadian Kennel Club, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Federation of Veterinarians in Europe, Humane Society of the United States, International Association of Canine Professionals, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, National Association of Obedience Instructors, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (UK & Australia), United Kennel Club, and the White House Administration. In addition, many state and local-level veterinary medical associations and humane organizations oppose BSL.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
Q: What position do legal, animal-related, and non-animal related organizations take on BSL?
A: All of the following organizations do not endorse BSL:
American Animal Hospital Association, American Bar Association, American Dog Owner’s Association, American Humane Association, American Kennel Club, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, American Veterinary Medical Association, American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior, Association of Pet Dog Trainers, Australian Veterinary Association, Best Friends Animal Society, British Veterinary Association, Canadian Kennel Club, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Federation of Veterinarians in Europe, Humane Society of the United States, International Association of Canine Professionals, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, National Association of Obedience Instructors, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (UK & Australia), United Kennel Club, and the White House Administration. In addition, many state and local-level veterinary medical associations and humane organizations oppose BSL.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
what question was that??
what question was that??
which of the victims of the NON pitbulls are not dead Lesley?? typically using descriptive adjuectives and false compassion for victims to mask you real wish death to all pitbulls! your a joke and people are om to your sick psychological games, colleen traned you well, you do know she’s not a dog expert?? she’s a media person a spinner you know takes things and puts her own spin on them to try and convince people she’s right?
Caroline Zambrano examines the influence of the media when it comes to reporting on Breed Specific Legislation (BSL).
In the headline news…
“Pit Bull Attacks Mourners” BBC News Online, 15 January, 1998.
“Pit Bull Attacks Oakland Woman” San Francisco Chronicle, United States, 12 March, 2001
“Three Pit Bulls attack two-year-old Ottawa boy” CTV.ca (Canada), 2 February, 2005.
“Pit Bulls in three attacks” The Courier-Mail, Queensland, 3 May, 2005
As Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) began to spread more than a decade ago from Europe to the rest of the world, so did stories of dog attacks in the international media.
Dogs Life wonders if the media had refrained from publishing news of only Pit Bull attacks and disseminated pictures of children playing amongst these breeds, would Australia be targeting specific breeds in controlling dangerous dogs today?
In Australia, breeds banned from importation are the American Pit Bull Terrier or Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino and Fila Brasileiro.
Many organisations and individual dog owners in the country argue that the media plays a big role in creating a misconception about breeds. International animal behaviour experts encourage the public to educate themselves better on the facts behind dog attacks.
Endangered Dog Breeds Association (EDBA) president Linda Watson said the media is not reporting the truth about dog attacks so dog lovers need to do their own research about certain breeds.
Since it started in 2001, the EDBA works with more than 200 members to provide the public with evidence, advice and alternatives to BSL and also to counter misinformation and hysteria about dog breeds and dog attacks promoted by the media and other anti-animal welfare organisations and governments.
“The media sensationalise dog attacks and at the moment seem only to publicise those involving Pit Bull type dogs or dogs they can convert into Pit Bulls,” Watson said. “Dog lovers need to educate themselves and understand particular breeds. Targeting breeds is unfair and irrational.”
Leading experts from around the world who have years of training studying the Foamer community compile their data yearly to help us accurately keep track of Foamer incidents nationwide except for Canada and Mexico (our budget isn’t that big). This agency is known as the CFC – The Center for Foamer Control.
Our experts have sent informative questioners through out the states to medical and mental health professions to help gather Non Foamer interactions with Foamers data.
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Each question is scientifically proven to help understand the rising levels of insanity in the Foamer community and the threat they pose to our community and to the National Security.
According to the CFC (Center for Foamer Control) they stopped recording Foamer attacks by gender and instead of recording “Foamer man” and “Foamer woman” they simplified it to just “Foamer”.
The CFC reports that with the growth of the population it makes sense that the percentage of Foamers would grow slightly. As troubling as that might seem at first glance, the CFC assures us that it’s normal.
According to these charts from 2011 to 2013 it seems as if the Foamer population hasn’t grown much:
In conclusion, The CFC concludes that there will always be Foamers and that means Foamer attacks are always possible. Foamer Education is the best way to avoid or lesson your irritation when having the unfortunate Foamer interaction.
Tips for avoiding Foamer attacks:
Never feed the Foamers
Leave Foamers alone while they are eating.
Do not approach stray Foamers.
Never leave children, dogs,cats and the elderly alone and unsupervised with Foamers.
Please make sure Foamers are S/N and up to date on their vaccinations.
When a Foamer is approaching, don’t yell and run. Stand perfectly still, don’t make eye contact and pray they just don’t see you.
Don’t be part of the problem! Be proactive and help keep the Foamer population down. FBL (Foamer breed legislation) are being enacted daily nationwide!
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10 Common Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
10 Common Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
No other dog has had so much media coverage in the last 15 years as the Pit Bull. It’s tough not to be emotional one way or the other about these canines, especially if you’ve owned one or two or three, or if you or a loved one has been involved in a bad incident involving a Pit Bull. One side says Pits are dangerous and should be banned. The other side says they are loving, safe dogs and it’s the owners who are to blame for any “bad” Pits. What is the truth? Somewhere in between.
“Pit Bull” can refer to either the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) breed or a type of dog who has Pit Bull traits. It’s all muddled at this point with Breed Specific Legislation, which bans or restricts some breeds, lumping Boxers and Dalmatians in with pits and other bully breeds (such as the American Staffordshire Terrier. Most Pit Bulls on the street are mixes though there is still breeding of the APBT. Responsible breeding produces a stable, talented dog while breeding for dog fighting must, of course, be stopped.
It gets more confusing when trying to identify just how many Pit Bulls are responsible for dog or human attacks. When you see the term “Pit Bull” in the press, it can refer to any type of dog. More often than you’d think, a dog who attacked someone and is labeled Pit Bull, is actually a mutt or a different breed altogether. Even if a picture is attached and it looks like a Pitbull, it could be any number of mixes which produce similar characteristics.
Really, when you think about it, condemning a dog based on his physical traits is declaring his guilt based purely on his appearance – this is what BSL is about.
But there are the sensible people who honestly feel that Pitbulls, and any dog that resembles one, are a danger to society. Often, these folks don’t know much about dogs and certainly not much about Pits. But they are being bombarded with almost all bad press about these dogs. It is evident that the media fuels misconceptions about Pits and stirs up the public. And the statistics behind the fury are less than accurate. Even the Center for Disease Control, which puts out many of the stats, states that dog bite and dog attack data cannot be gathered accurately.
But, still, the section of society that does not feel safe with Pit Bulls has a right to be heard. And, considering the bull they are fed about Pits, it’s no wonder they don’t believe the Pit Bull supporters.
Below are 10 common misconceptions about Pit Bulls which both support and contradict the general views of either “Pit Bulls are dangerous” or “Pit Bulls are just like Golden Retrievers.” Just as it’s tough to be unemotional about these dogs, it’s also tough to be unbiased (especially when the author of this article owns three of them) but a valiant effort has been made.
10 Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
1. All Pit Bulls Are Bad – Dogs do not have a conscience; they cannot be “bad.” Pit Bulls react to their world based on their breeding and training. You can’t breed a dog to fight other dogs for almost 200 years and expect those instincts to vanish.
2. All Pit Bulls Are Good – No dog is not innately “good.” They simply act as their instincts and owners tell them to. To try to sell the Pit Bull to the public as a fluffy bunny does a disservice to the public, to potential Pit Bull owners and to Pits themselves.
3. Pit Bulls Are Human Aggressive – Since Pits were bred to fight dogs in a ring, the owners had to make certain they would not turn on them when they went in to stop the fight. Imagine a dog, so riled up from fighting and very aggressive, who was able to then turn it off when his human appeared in the pit. When a Pit Bull attacks a person, there are always other factors involved, such as protection of food. Any dog may bite if provoked.
4. Pit Bulls Can Cause More Damage Than Other Dogs – Sorry, Pit Bull lovers but this is sometimes sadly true. Myths such as the locked jaw have been disproved but a Pit Bull’s traits make him naturally more driven. Consider these: tenacity (they often fought til death in rings), gameness, prey drive, a compact, strong, muscular body (pits can pull up to 7,000 pounds) and centuries of fighting instinct. But, there are too many factors involved in dog bites, such as the size of the animal and where the bite occurred, to make a blanket statement. In their favor, a Pit Bull will likely listen and obey better than other dogs if properly trained.
5. An Aggressive Pit Bull Cannot Be Rehabilitated – This was disproved by the Michael Vick case where some 50 pit bulls were rescued from a fighting ring. Of those, 49 dogs were rehabilitated. Some went to shelters such as Best Friends and many are well-loved family members today. The testing used to determine these dogs’ ability to fit into society was exhaustive and excellent and successful.
6. Anyone Can Own a Pit Bull – Pit Bulls are different from other dogs and their owners need to be told the facts before rescuing or purchasing one. A dog lover who has had Bichons all her life will be sorely surprised unless she does her homework and understands the bully breeds. Pits need a lot of structure, a very pronounced human alpha, training, exercise and lots of attention. The owner needs consistency, time, energy and maybe some muscle.
7. Pit Bulls Will Always Fight Other Dogs – Some Pits are so dog aggressive that they should be the only dog in the house. They also should not go to dog parks or areas where dogs run off-leash. Any Pit Bull could get into a fight with another dog. Any dog could. But breaking up a Pit Bull fight is much harder than a tiff between a Shiba Inu and a Sharpei Inu. If you have a Pit Bull, learn about his body language and the signs that he is getting ready to fight. This will prevent many incidents.
8. Pit Bulls Are Lovers Not Fighters – Since it’s been established that they can be fighters, what about lovers? Absolutely! Pit Bulls give more kisses than any other type of dog (it’s proven!). They love humans and human interactions. They feed off positive attention. These dogs are loving, friendly creatures. And they are the kings of clowning.
9. Pit Bulls Are Badly Behaved – Any dog who has this much energy and motivation coded into his DNA can cause problems if he doesn’t get enough attention and exercise. Pit Bulls put their whole hearts into destruction – of couches, beds, pillows, or your $200 boots. But all they need is to have that energy redirected. Pit Bulls are highly trainable but they do need to be trained. Their intelligence, focus, gameness, loyalty and desire to please makes them one of the most teachable dogs.
10. Compromise is Unthinkable – Unfortunately, both sides of the Pit Bull debate are often stubborn about their views and solutions. For those who think BSL is wrong, they need to be realistic about how to end it. For those that think Pit Bulls are dangerous, they need to recognize that banning Pits tears loved pets away from their families and what they propose will not stop all dangerous dogs. Giving in a bit on both sides, such as allowing muzzling of Pit Bulls in public places in exchange for no BSL, may prove the only hope. Pitbulls are like other dogs yet they’re also unique. Their gameness, focus, desire to please and boundless energy
can be seen as either productive or unproductive traits. The trick is to utilize these characteristics in focused play and work, such as agility, weight pulling, rescue work or nose work.
Well said, Lisa.
Of course pit bull advocates what to pull the ad hiding the truth is the only way they can survived, When the truth is told and their myths are destroyed there is nothing left for them to cling to. Put public safety first always !!
Absolutely! Always put public safety first! that is our point. We don’t want to hide the ad. We question why they have not registered as a campaign in Aurora as required by law and why they are asking for Colorado dogs to suffer for what two boxer mixes ( vet record, not our opinion) did in Wisconsin. Jeff could not get BSL passed in his community. Shouldn’t he be focusing there still or better yet, if he truly believe the hysteria like Colleen, why do they live in areas where these dogs are allowed? Where is Jeff in all this? We’d love to hear from him and not have people speak for him.
Dear Pit Bull Lobby
Why have you built the whole foundation of your campaign on myths victim harassment and threats.
How can you ignore the list of fatalities, daily attacks and attacks that bring a fatality every 12 days on average.
How can you oppose Breed Specific Regulation in the form of spay/neuter while shelters are overrun with your breed of choice.
How can you find time to harass victim…s when you have so much work to do with “Your” over breeding problem.
Pit bull owners are responsible for the over breeding and shelter over population which must be controlled by euthanasia, not safety advocates. There is no way to adopt your way out of this problem “You” have created and any attempt only brings more danger to the public.
When will “You” take responsibility ??
Dear Dennis how can you keep spouting this absolute garbage and think people are buying your story, repeating the same fruitless activities expecting a differrent outcome is a sure sign of craziness!! pls Dennis keep them coming, we love you!! you make our task so much easier with your constant displays of “how to be a true foamer” ? lol! blink blink
Dennis, not all pit bull owners are responsible for the shelters being overpopulated. Most of us good owners have our dogs spayed and neutered. Blaming every owner of these dogs is total bull. To blame us for creating the problem is wrong as well. You can blame the dog fighters and the back yard breeders. THEY are the one’s that are creating this mess. Go after them instead of decent people who are great owners and take care of their pets.
I have had the very good fortune of living in a jurisdiction of 13.5 million people which has banned the breeding and importation of pit bulls since 2005. In this 9-year period during which the United States has seen a significant and troubling rise in serious dog attacks due to the proliferation of the pit bull type dog, we have had exactly ZERO serious maulings resulting in death or major disfiguration where I live. This is absolute proof that pit bull regulation works to save life and limb. Another benefit of our sane and reasonable dog legislation is that dog fighting has virtually disappeared. No contenders, no dog fights — it’s just that simple. Anyone who truly cares about ending animal cruelty understands that the only way to end dog fighting is to spay/neuter the pit bull blood lines out of existence. I urge the people of Colorado to speak up against this fringe special interest group who are insisting on the right to own high-risk, unstable breeds capable of doing great damage to humans, domestic animals and livestock.
Which jurisdiction and what were the bite rates before? Dog fighting does not disappear. It is a placebo effect. Well documented.
Bite rates are irrelevant. Anyone interested in public health and safety is deeply concerned about MAULING rates — deaths, disfigurements, amputations. If you will not acknowledge this basic fact of *degree* of damage then we have nothing to debate. (And you also do not seem to have a basic grasp of the term “placebo effect”.)
Like in Denver, where according to the Colorado Department of Health and Environment you are 50% more likely to be hospitalized from dog bite than the state average?
Nice try. That claim is based on an estimate of Denver’s population as ~650,000 people. In reality, Denver hospitals serve a population of over three million. Denver also has only level-1 trauma centers in the state, meaning that the city’s hospitals accept life flights and transfer admissions from a wide area including outside of the state.
In order to accurately assess the outcome of Denver’s pit bull law, you need to look at dog bites according to where the attack actually took place, not where the admitting hospital is located.
Let’s see a comparison of incidents occurring within Denver city limits as opposed to incidents in areas where pit bulls aren’t restricted, and then we’ll talk.
So your position is that the Colorado Department of Health and Environment is lying? I find it more likely that you are. Here is the quote from their dataset:
Residence and occurrence data
Residence data, unless otherwise noted, are for events that happened to individuals who were reported as being residents of Colorado. Occurrence data are for events that took place in Colorado regardless of residence of the injured person. Statistics with occurrence data will be designated “Colorado Occurrences” in the title. All the rates presented in the reports are based on hospitalizations involving Colorado residents. County or region specific data include only hospitalizations involving residents of those counties or regions.
Thanks for proving my point: “Occurrence data are for events that took place in Colorado regardless of residence of the injured person.”
The data you’re talking about does not differentiate between areas affected by pit bull restrictions (BSL) and areas that aren’t affected.
The Denver metro area’s population is well over three million. BSL only affects people living within the Denver city limits, a population of about 650,000. Denver hospitals admit people from all over the metro area, not just people living in the city limits. In fact, the population likely to use a Denver hospital is much greater outside the city limits. Denver hospitals also get transfers and life flights from well outside the metro area.
Therefore you cannot look at rates of hospital admissions for dog bites because Denver hospitals freely admit people from outside of a BSL-affected area. You have to look at the address where the attack took place. Is there a higher rate of attacks within the BSL-affected area or isn’t there? This information wouldn’t be hard to obtain, but pit bull lobbyists don’t seem to want to discuss it. Gee, I wonder why.
You are adorable. “County or region specific data include only hospitalizations involving residents of those counties or regions.” I’d suggest looking at the data. Sort it by County. The data is by RESIDENCE. It’s not hard, you just have to think for yourself, use Google, and stop quoting a blog. Here, I’ll help: https://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cohid.dphe.state.co.us%2Fscripts%2Fhtmsql.exe%2Finjurycustom.hsql%23main
Look, this isn’t hard. The data tells you where the admitting hospital is located and where the patient resides. It does NOT say where the dog attack took place nor how severe the attack was, which are the most important pieces of information — and arguably the ONLY information — you need to determine if severe dog attacks in a certain region are going up or down after that region adopts a pit bull law.
The Colorado Department of Health and Environment has not issued any statements about Denver’s pit bull laws. You are playing fast and loose with the data and hoping not to be called out on it. If you can’t (or don’t want to) show me a simple, direct comparison of dog attacks by severity and location (BSL affected versus non-affected) and you lean instead on data where this crucial information is conspicuously absent, then I’d say that speaks for itself.
1) The Colorado Department of Health and Environment dataset, when queried by County, shows inpatient hospitalization data by county of residence.
2) Again, if reading that on their site isn’t enough for you, explain how 10,000+ persons were hospitalized (according to YOUR interpretation) in counties with no hospitals.
3) I never said they issues a statement. They issue facts. I disseminate those facts. Those facts are based on easily demarcated searchable information.
I’m really trying to help you out here. Go to the dataset. Select all counties. That’s it. You are obviously are arguing the fact without ever looking it up yourself. Click the link. Or don’t. Saying the state health department is lying about their data collection shows how little you actually care about public safety.
I’m obviously not the first person who couldn’t get this to sink in for you.
Let’s try again. In order to show that restrictions on pit bulls are responsible for a 50% increase in dog bite hospitalizations in a region (as you claim) then you need to demonstrate two things:
1) A rise in attacks based on where the attacks occur. Not where the admitting hospital is located and not where the victim sleeps at night (their residence), but the location where the actual incident took place.
2) An evidenced mechanism by which a pit bull restriction (as opposed to any number of other causes) is clearly responsible for an increase in dog attacks. Here’s is the elephant in the room. You’re arguing that restricting pit bulls somehow makes labradoodles and corgis way more dangerous yet you’ve done absolutely nothing to support your claim.
Also, BSL is not meant to address dog bites in general or even dog bites that need medical attention. It is meant to address the tiny percentage of attacks that do severe, life-altering or life-threatening damage. According to a number of peer-reviewed studies, not to mention even a cursory search of dog attack records, the vast majority of severe and deadly attacks involve pit bulls. Willfully conflating dog bites with severe, sustained attacks is like howling about housecat bites in a conversation about whether people should be allowed to have a pet cougar.
I challenge you to use a database such as LexisNexis to categorize dog attacks over any given time period by breed and severity and see what we find out about pit bulls.
Shall we?
Fine. You won’t look at the Department of Health and Environments Data. I will bow to your superior intelligence if you can tell me where the hospitals in Bent and Broomfield Counties are. If I believe you, 3.700 people were hospitalized there.
1) Look here. Click on county of residence. Select counties of your choice to compare to Denver: https://www.cohid.dphe.state.co.us/scripts/htmsql.exe/injurycustom.hsql#main
2) Denver is about 50% higher in hospitalization rate, not outpatient, than the state average. Your labradoodle argument is moot, unless you think Denver somehow has had a random influx of rabid labradoodles.
I’ve actually looked at your sources. You could at least try looking at mine. I will not place news over verifiable statistics.
The data you’re blathering about is a red herring. It cannot be used to prove the point you’ve thus far failed to prove: it does not contain information about the location of the attack. You also need proof that the pit bull law is the cause of any difference in dog attack rates, and not any other obvious reason (for example, more dogs per capita, greater dog/human population density, higher rate of dog-human interactions per capita, etc.)
The data does not have any of this information (very convenient for you!) so you might as well be using average low temperature records from Madagascar to prove a point about Denver’s pit bull law.
You also have yet to explain (let alone substantiate) a mechanism by which a law targeting pit bulls somehow makes other dogs more dangerous. There are many reasons to explain a higher rate of dog bite hospitalizations in a major city. You have to do away with them to show that the pit bull law is the culprit. Again, the data you’re using is silent on this matter.
Let me try to make this even simpler. A person can be a resident of Denver city limits and go to a Denver county hospital for an injury, yet be attacked by a dog in any one of the Denver metro’s densely populated surrounding areas which are not affected by pit bull laws, or anywhere else in the state, right? Duh.
So you need to know where the attack happened — did it happen in a place where pit bulls have been restricted, or not? Not what hospital the victim was admitted to, and not where the victim sleeps at night. Where. The. Attack. Happened.
Get it?
So here we are, back at the beginning of a vapid and tiresome circle: Let’s see a comparison of incidents occurring within Denver city limits
as opposed to incidents in areas where pit bulls aren’t restricted, and
then we’ll talk.
So your position is that Denvers population density is in constant, massive flux, and that residents of any given county are far more likely to be outside of where they live, in areas with no BSL, to be attacked and flown to areas with hospitals. But news reports are always accurate. The reasons n health depatrments track data like they do is to determine the best locations for said hospitals.
I’ve been consistent in my argument. You change yours every time I point out an inconsistency in your “Logic.” The same way eliminating one brand of car will not reduce car theft in the long term. You’re not dealing with the problem.
That’s exactly your problem. You keep regurgitating the same laughably faulty argument over and over and over. The data does NOT show that Denver’s rate of dog bite admissions is abnormally high for a major city. Nor does it suggest in any way that Denver’s pit bull law resulted in an abnormally high rate of serious dog bites. Your data does not include the location of the attack. It does not tell us which attacks happened in areas with a pit bull ban and which did not. Without that information, you can’t draw any conclusions about the effect of a pit bull law on the rate of dog attacks. PERIOD.
Also the CDHE points out that injury rates are much lower in counties that aren’t densely populated. Did you miss that little detail? Of course Denver will have a higher rate of dog attacks than the state average. It’s densely populated and most of the state isn’t.
I’ve ended this argument exactly the same way I started it (literally!) by demanding 1) data that actually addresses where dog attacks take place and 2) a substantiated mechanism by which a pit bull ban supposedly makes other dogs more dangerous. I’m still waiting.
Ok Kory.
1) The CDHE does report abnormally high data in sparsely populated counties.
2) Ask someone who has taken courses in statistics.
3) Ignoring the cause of the problem does.
Major US cities tracking hospitalization have an average incidence rate of 2.7 per 100,000. Denver is 3.8 Try math, it’s neato.
Thanks. Go back to traffic enforcement.
Look, this is very simple. So simple. You need two things:
1) Proof that there are more dog attacks in a region where pit bulls are restricted than in a comparable region without pit bull laws. Two demographically similar regions where the presence or absence of a pit bull law is essentially the sole difference between them. In order to demonstrate this, you need to know where the attacks occurred. The data you have shown does not include this information and it does not compare similar regions. It is irrelevant.
2) Evidence that the pit bull law is directly responsible for an increase in severe dog attacks. You’re basically proposing that when pit bulls are restricted, other dogs bite people more often and more severely. Really? OK, so how is that supposed to work?
Get it now? Don’t come back unless you have evidence-based answers to #1 and #2 instead of the same old regurgitation, red herrings, and straw men I’ve seen thus far.
“Nevada Ames”
It’s because that where the hospitals are.
Me: You’re lying.
“Nevada Ames”, No it’s where the hospitals are.
Me: Actually read the website.
“Nevada Ames” Ok, now it’s because people are being hurt outside of where they live.
Me: Unlikely, as that goes against the normal gathering of empirical data.
“Nevada Ames” Denver has a higher rate because of the population density.
No, it doesn’t. Changing your tactic because you’re wrong doesn’t work. Lying doesn’t work. Population density has little to no effect on serious attacks. In fact, residents of densely populated cities have generally slightly lower rates of serious bites, It’s likely due to the lesser rate of large dog ownership among condo and apartment owner/ renters. Don’t insult us with your fabrications.
Stop wasting my time. From the beginning, I have asked for only two crucial pieces of information from you, and gotten bupkiss.
1: Evidence that a region where pit bulls aren’t allowed experiences
more dog attacks against a comparable region without BSL. Not
hospitalizations, not victim residences, but actual attack incidents.
You need to know where the attacks happen or you don’t have squat. A significant percentage of dog bite victims are attacked outside of
their homes, therefore you need to know the location of the attack and not the residence of the victim. Are you seriously telling me that residents of Denver never go outside the city limits and never encounter dogs in the surrounding areas where the vast majority of the 3+ million people in the metro area live?
2: Evidence that the pit bull law (as opposed to other causes) is directly responsible for an increase in dog attacks. You have completely evaded this critical issue altogether.
That’s really all there is to it. If you don’t have #1 and #2, then you lose. It’s really that simple.
Wow. You got me. Hospitalizations from dog bite should not factor into this argument.
1) Council Bluffs, Sioux City, Aurora, Denver, Great Britain, Omaha (not a ban, restrictions), Miami Dade County, Australia, Denmark…….
2) See above. The preponderance of correlation speaks for itself. You have zero correlation. Zero.
Stick to being an anonymous warrior while the public pays your salary. It’s much more safe.
Also, re: #2. Please prove that BSL is effective in preventing serious dog bites (as opposed to other factors)
Back at you. I would have thought they required basic understanding of statistical logic to be a lawyer.
I believe even some pit bull attack victims have been life flighted to Denver.
if you truly beleive what your saying why the fake alias?? you expect us to take you seriously?? lol!!
If you honestly wanted to stop dog fighting you’d make it harder to own a pit bull. Mandatory licensing, muzzling in public, spay/neuter, and background checks.
You don’t advocate for any of this. Instead you push pits on anyone with lies and propaganda making it much easier for any dog fighter to posses and use the pit bull dog for its original purpose.
another thoroughly invested nutter, i note suspiciously you fail to mention the “name” of your jurisdiction (for obvious reasons, it doesn’t exist) as I am confident your full of it because put quite simply BSL has not and does not work and is being repealed world wide even the american bar association has come out against it?? (but now you’ll tell me they’re getting paid by diog fighters?)
A bite is not what makes a dog dangerous “all dogs bite”. It is their capability to severely maul and kill that makes them dangerous. On average so far this year in the U.S. someone has been killed by a pit bull every 12 days. Many of these dogs were well trained and had never shown signs of aggression before. The only common in these severe and fatal attacks is breed. If you ignore breed danger you are ignoring the source of the problem and fatalities and severe mauling will continue.
Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to May.25, 2013.
By compiling U.S. and Canadian press accounts between 1982 and 2013, Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, shows the breeds most responsible for serious injury and death.
Study highlights
Pit bull type dogs make up only 6% of all dogs in the USA.
The combination of Pit Bulls, rottweilers, their close mixes and w…olf hybrids and other Pit Bull Type Dogs:
84% of attacks that induce bodily harm.
75% of attacks to children.
87% of attack to adults.
72% of attacks that result in fatalities.
80% that result in maiming
2014 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
Updated after each fatality following fact finding research
31 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
by Breed:
23 by Pit Bull / Pit Bull Mix
3 by Bullmastiff / Mastiff Mix
2 by Rottweiler
1 by Cane Corso
1 by Shepherd Mix…
1 by Catahoula Leopard Dog
By age:
17 Children
12 Adults
By State:
TX – 6 deaths
AL – 3 deaths
OH – 3 deaths
FL – 3 deaths
NC – 2 deaths
MI – 2 deaths
AZ – 1 death
CA – 2 death
CT – 1 death
DE – 1 death
IL – 1 death
LA – 1 death
MS – 2 death
NJ – 1 death
MO – 1 death
AR – 1 death
Names and ages of the deceased:
Christina Bell-Burleson – 43 – Houston, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.05.14]
Betty Clark – 75 – Canyon Lake, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.06.14]
Kara Hartrich – 4 – Bloomington, IL – 2 Pit Bulls [01.17.14]
Annabel Martin – 89 – Corona, CA – 3 Rottweilers [01.26.14]
Klonda Richey – 57 – Dayton, OH – 2 Mastiff Mixes [02.07.14]
Je’vaeh Mayes – 2 – Temple, TX – Pit Bull [02.17.14]
Braelynn Coulter – 3 – High Point, NC – Pit Bull [02.24.14]
Summer Sears – 4 – Tallassee, AL – Shepherd Mix [02.26.14]
Kenneth Santillan – 13 – Paterson, NJ – Bullmastiff [02.28.14]
Raymane Robinson, Jr. – 2 – Killeen, TX – Bullmastiff [03.01.14]
Nancy Newberry – 77 – Phoenix, AZ – Pit Bull [03.14.14]
Mia DeRouen – 4 – Houma, LA – Pit Bull [03.25.14]
Christopher Malone- 3 – Holmes County, MS – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
Dorothy Hamilton – 85 – Kaufman, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
John Harvard – 5 – Riverside, AL – Pit Bull [04.06.14]
Petra Aguirre – 83 – San Antonio, TX – Pit Bull Mix [04.11.14]
Katie Morrison – 20 – Phenix City, AL – 3 Pit Bulls [05.03.14]
Nyhiem Wilfong – 1 – Caldwell County, NC – Rottweiler [05.04.14]
Kasii Haith – 4 – Kent County, DE – 3 Pit Bulls [05.07.14]
Rita Pepe – 93 – Branford, CT – Pit Bull Mix [05.25.14]
Holden Garrison – 10 wks – Davisburg, MI – Catahoula Leopard Dog [06.09.14]
Logan Shepard – 4 – Riverview, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [07.19.14]
Jonathan Quarles – 7 mo – Dayton, OH – Pit Bull [07.20.14]
Craig Sytsma – 46 – Metamore Twp, MI – 2 Cane Corso [07.23.14]
Cindy Whisman – 59 – Madison Twp, OH – Pit Bull [08.04.14]
Joel Chireieleison – 6 – Fanning Springs, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [08.07.14]
Deriah Solem – 22 mo – St Charles County, MO – Pit Bull Mix [08.09.14]
Javon Dade – 4 – Miami, FL – Pit Bull [08.13.14]
David Glass Sr.-51-Benton County, MS – 3 Pit Bulls [09.20.14]
Alice Payne – 75 – Cave City, AR – 1 Pit Bull [09.26.14]
Juan Fernandez – 59 – Modesto, CA – ? – [10.14.14]
Non – Bite Related Canine Deaths
Demonta Collins – 13 – Augusta, GA – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.10.14]
Davon Jigget – 17 – Fulton County, Ga – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.11.14]
Ryan Brown – 15 – Fayette County, TN – Killed by pan thrown by brother when attempting to break up dog fight [08.08.14]
On average so far this year someone has been killed by a pit bull every 12 days. Some of these pit bull attacks were from the family dog that was well trained and had never shown signs of aggression before. The only common in these severe and often fatal attacks is not abuse or lack of training it is breed. Choose the breed of dog you trust the lives of your loved ones with wisely.
I’m sorry, but generally I have seen atrocious comments from both sides. Poorly thought out comments, comments wishing harm or bashing victims is NOT representative of true advocacy, but then again posting on social media about how one can get away with poisoning dogs, or satirical posts condoning “taking a pitbull to have it euthanized” or “put a pitbull on the bbq” day I’m sure isn’t representative of anti advocacy (sarcasm)! I think Leslie Lescomb can be on board with that, as she has participated and continues to participate on these hate pages. You are only as good as your word, and by the company you keep, so bless all of you misinformed people who have gotten on the bandwagon. You all truly are a bunch of gems!
What on EARTH are you dribbling on about? What ‘hate’ pages?
Okay, I get it.
Hate page = Facebook Pages that tell the truth about Pit Bulls and their owners.
Perhaps you call them ‘hate pages’ simply because you HATE the truth about Pit Bulls being revealed.
Yes, I think that must be it.
Actually that would be the pages Leslie that you are quite active on. PPMR ring a bell? Exposing the truth about pitbulls (ie adopt a pitbull and have it euthanized day)?! Is THAT exposing pitbulls for what they are Leslie? Is that being PROACTIVE in coming up with a solution that helps keep everyone safe????? You are nothing but a sham along with all of the other minions.
Hi…my name is Justin Clinton. I’m only 10 years old
Hi…my name is Justin Clinton. I’m only 10 years old. I am a regular kid…I love football, baseball and riding my skateboard. I can’t wait until I’m bigger, so I can get a real footb…all uniform and play for my school!….But, I am only 10 years old. I make really good grades in school, my Mom said I could grow up to be anything in the world! I wanna be a pro football player or a fireman…who knows? I may cure a disease or be President one day, but I’m only 10 years old. I guess one day I can be a Dad, have a wife and a couple of kid’s…man I would play with them all day!…But I’m only 10 years old. I will always be only 10 years old because of me getting killed by the dogs. See..my friend lives down the street and he has 2 dogs that we play with all the time…they are pit bulls…but they love me and I love ’em back! One day, after school… I grabbed my skateboard and took off to see my friend. I was riding by his house and the dogs were trying to come play with me I guess…they busted through the fence gate. Next I was knocked off my skateboard..Hard! Then I just remember they were all over me on that quiet oil top road where no one could hear me screaming. My neck! My chest! They are killing me…and I am only 10 years old! I think I went to sleep for a little while, ’cause when I woke up they were dragging me into the woods…I am so cold. Then one of our neighbors grabbed my skateboard and was hitting the dogs…they ran away. She picked my head and shoulders up in her arms and she was crying…did they hurt her too? There is a lot of blood on her! I saw her eyes and that’s the last thing I saw…but…I’m only 10 years old!!! I’m supposed to see a lot more stuff!! My proms, graduation, my bride, my kid’s….but my life slowly fades from me…and I’m only 10 years old…I didn’t even live long enough to get that football uniform…I thought those dogs were my friends…what did I ever do to them? Well…I need to go now, I have to watch over my Mom and Dad and sister…oh no.. they are crying again…I have a big job to do, watching over them. I don’t mind…but I am only 10 years old!
Nice of the Sentinel to give the ad MORE FREE space. by reprinting it here.. Considering the paper’s editorial stance against repeal, this isn’t journalism: it’s advocacy. Who can trust the paper’s reporting?
Perhaps the reason for the article is the Sentinel felt bullied into changing or pulling it. It’s all good; it will spur anyone uninformed or unaffected to research the topic and come to their own conclusion.
Nanny Dog ?………. There has never been a time since 1844 when any breed other than pit bull led the U.S. over a 10-year interval in dog attack fatalities.
Pit Bull — the only type of dog that has to have its own defense and myth building team. And don’t forget your break stick please ………
Thanks for the non-statement. One would hope you had better for the people of CO?
Dude, you’re part of the pit bull problem. Like it or not, it’s the truth.
From Sept 11, 2001 to Nov 13, 2007 there was 11 fatalities due to Alligator attacks . That is 11 fatalities in a span of 2,254 days this averages out to be one fatality every “205 days”. From Jan 17, 2014 to March 25, 2014 there was 11 dog …bite fatalities in a span of 67 days this averages out to be one fatality every “6 days”. 81% of these dog bite fatalities were caused by pit bull type dogs. Why do most people realize the danger with alligators and not understand the danger with fighting breeds ? Why is one of these pictures more shocking to most than the other ? Don’t You think its time to stop the blame and the myths and look at the danger ?……………………
Never confuse a pit bull advocate for a animal welfare advocate it just simply does not add up.
The animals killed included about 12,000 dogs, 8,000 cats, 6,000 hooved animals, and 17,000 other small domestic animals, primarily poultry.
The seriously injured included about 12,400 dogs, 4,000 cats, and 1,700 hooved animals. Few small mammals and poultry survived reported dog attacks.
Pit bull…s inflicted 99% of the total fatal attacks on other animals (43,000); 96% of the fatal attacks on other dogs (11,520); 95% of the fatal attacks on livestock (5,700) and on small mammals and poultry (16,150); and 94% of the fatal attacks on cats (11,280).
About 30,000 pit bulls were involved in attacks on other animals, many of them killing multiple other animals.
There are about 3.2 million pit bulls in the U.S. at any given time, according to the annual ANIMAL PEOPLE surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption via online classified ads.
Thus in 2013 about one pit bull in 107 killed or seriously injured another animal, compared with about one dog in 50,000 of other breeds.
Complete details of the year-long epidemiological survey that produced these estimates will appear in the January/February edition of ANIMAL PEOPLE.
Merritt Clifton has added the following clarifying comments: The forthcoming ANIMAL PEOPLE study is taking an epidemiological approach to estimating the dog attack & pit bull attack tolls on other animals precisely to address the underreporting factor. Figuring out how to compensate for non-reporting is among the most common problems in epidemiological research, and we have used standard methods for doing it.
More info will posted here as it becomes available. In the meantime, there are many interesting articles to be found at the web site – Animal People CBS News
Well this has been lovely and we’d love to stay for more of the usual banter but the night is beautiful and the outdoors is calling. We sure hope that Jeff and Colleen will see fit to address these things personally instead of sending their army to do their work. Our offer stands to discuss this with them publicly. What Colorado knows though is when there is an issue, it will not be people from out of town who run to their aid, it will be local people. I am sure the editor of the Sentinel is enjoying the web hits from this post. Have a spectacular night everyone and remember. Local people decide local issues.
We are no army. We are many individuals from all walks of life. What unites us is our knowledge of the dogs you huddle so protectively around, and our sorrow at the preventable toll they extract on human beings and all other animals that they encounter. I do agree though, that local people should decide local issues. However, this subject is immensely contentious, and this platform offers us ALL the opportunity to speak freely. Even though we may not be Coloradoans/eans/ians, we are human beings, and this is a small world.
well there’s the first true thing you’ve written, Lesley from England: you are, indeed no army. You’re a sad hatefilled obsessed bunch of about 10 people, using multiple profiles to spam the comments of every article on the subject of pit bulls with your drivel and lies. You’re on the losing edge of history: your noise just demonstrates that you’re the extinction burst of the BSL movement. How do I know this? Not just the many states that now outlaw BSL. Not just the many cities that are repealing their BSL. Here are some numbers: The DBO FB page has 3600 “likes”. The ColoRadogs FB page has 6500. One of the major pit bull rescue organizations, BADRAP, has 206,000 “likes”. Hector the Pit bull (a dog saved from Michael Vick’s torture shop) has 195,000. Oh, and just for fun: the STOP Dogbites.org FB page has 4500 “likes”… lol. Really, you should use your energy to promote measures that actually protect public safety: the ones that ColoRadogs (and other local groups who know their communities) propose.
I would say by what’s happened in other countries the eventual likelihood is bans or extreme restrictions including sky-high fines and prison. It is actually up to the pit bull owners and the pit bulls themselves – each day the dogs keep attacking, makes more victims and witnesses that spread word of their tragedy, news coverage and facebook likes aside.
Multiple profiles are not permitted on Facebook. I can only speak for myself, but I have a personal dislike of fake profiles. Your claim is repellent and incorrect. I am admin for a private group of Pit Bull Victims/Survivors. Please be assured that we are FAR FAR more numerous than ten souls. And that is just ONE group.
You are going to HAVE to face up to one awful hideous fact. Those dogs that you so badly WANT to behave themselves and to stop killing and mutilating other living creatures…. they aren’t going to stop. YOUR DOGS ARE WITH US. You defend the indefensible, and you place hopes onto dogs that are not capable of suppressing their genetic inheritance, and who will continue, in ever-increasing numbers, to be constantly in the news for their horrifying attacks. Soon, and this time is coming, America WILL reach saturation point. Soon, everyone will have a negative Pit Bull dog story. And change WILL come.
People who gloat when BSL is refused or repealed, are those who spit on the graves of the dead. There is nothing to be proud of, doing that.
As for your desperate clawing at numbers. Are you really so vacuous that you believe NUMBERS of likes for a Facebook page = the number of decent people of America who are sick to death of Pit Bulls, or who are soon to become sick to death of Pit Bulls?
I am glad you mentioned BadRap. I hope that anyone who reads my posts will look into the hideous death of Darla Napora and her unborn child. I would also like to remind you that BadRap are also asking people to stop quoting the Nanny Dog myth, in view of the amount of children mauled or killed by Pit Bulls.
I can feel your anger. I can smell your desperation. I would feel likewise, should I have had the misfortune to be fatally attracted to dogs that kill people, rather than people.
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SHERYL BLAIR, Tufts Veterinary School symposium – Animal Aggression: Dog Bites and the Pit Bull Terrier The injuries these dogs inflict are more serious than other breeds because they go for the deep musculature and don’t release; they hold and shake. Colleen Hodges, Veterinary Public Health spokeswoman Some families think that they can raise a loving pet if they treat a pit bull like any other do…g. They may not realize that the dog was bred to fight and that some of these dogs may have fighting in their genes. They are tough, strong, and tenacious. They are much more capable of inflicting serious damage, and some of them do. I would not recommend pits as a family dog.
MICHAEL W. FOX, veterinarian, animal behaviorist “I spent 20 years studying the behavior of dogs and it’s not in their nature. Man, has created a monster, If you wish…These dogs were selectively bred to fight, they have greater propensity to fight than other animals, which is brought out in training.” “They can attack people, and because the attitudes of Pit Bulls it is more likely they will attack people. The worry is the power of the dogs jaw…to bite and not let go. It’s quite sufficient to crush right through a child’s arm or leg.”
ARTHUR HERM, veterinarian, animal control He said he disagrees with those people who believe they can train aggressiveness out of dogs, and added he believes aggressiveness is “inherent” and “genetic” in all dogs while pit bulls “seem to have more of that.”
KATHRYN HAWKINS, DVM After seeing another dog die from a pit bull attack, I feel compelled to write. The opinion that pit bulls are “mean because of the way they are raised” is often not the case. A Both of the dogs I took care of that died were attacked unprovoked by pit bulls that were in families that raised them responsibly. Just as a retriever is bred to hunt birds — an instinct you can’t stop — many pit bulls have a genetic tendency to attack other animals. When they do, they are extremely powerful and don’t quit. I have never been bitten or growled at by a pit bull — they are very friendly. But when the instinct to attack another animal occurs, they cause serious damage, or death. They don’t bite people any more often than other breeds but when they do, it’s bad. The aggressiveness toward other animals and damage they do is not because of “the way they are raised” — it is usually due to a genetic instinct not in the control of the owner.
BONNIE V. BEAVER, BS, DVM, MS, DACVB, Professor and Chief of Medicine, Department of Small Animal Medicine and Surgery, College of Veterinary Medicine, Texas A&M University Executive Director, American College of Veterinary Behaviorists By its origin, a pit bull is a fighting dog that takes very little stimulous to initiate aggression, and it will continue to fight regardless of what happens. Pit bulldogs have been responsible for about 70 percent of the deaths of humans killed by dogs since 1979. The AVMA warns veterinarians to be careful about supplying behavioural evaluations of dogs for insurance purposes. “It’s risky for veterinarians,” said Dr. Beaver, explaining that there are many situations in which a dog may behave aggressively, and temperament tests can’t rule out the possibility of aggression. “You don’t have temperament tests that can identify all possibilities.”
TRISH KING, Director, Behavior & Training Dept. Marin Humane Society “There is no direct eye contact or very little direct eye contact. It is very quick and over with. Which is one reason why with pit bulls and rottweilers, we have problems. Because they’re bred to do direct eye contact and so they are off putting to other dogs and actually scary to other dogs.” The fourth undesirable characteristic – arousal or excitement – is actually the most problematic. Many bully dogs cannot seem to calm themselves down once they get excited. And once they get excited all their behaviors are exacerbated. Thus, if a dog is over-confident and has a tendency to body slam or mount, he or she will really crash into the other dog or person when he’s aroused, sometimes inadvertently causing injury. He may begin to play-bite, and then bite harder and harder and harder. When you try to stop the behavior, the dog often becomes even more “aggressive.” In this way, play can turn into aggression fairly quickly. Research on the brain has shown that excited play has exactly the same chemistry as extreme anger. This allows a play behavior to switch quickly into aggression. And, once the dog has become aggressive a few times, the switch is much easier.
MELANIE PFEIFFER, veterinary assistant Working in a veterinary hospital, you are exposed to all kinds of animal trauma. One of the more common ones is dog fights. I can honestly say that in three out of four cases, an American pit bull terrier is involved. Many times, we are able to save the life of the afflicted, but yesterday, we were not.
KEVIN COUTTS, Head Dog Ranger, Rotorua, New Zealand There was concern among dog authorities about American pitbulls being allowed into New Zealand as they were dangerous, unpredictable animals, Mr Coutts said. “A lot of people in this town get them because they are a staunch dog and they will fight. They are perceived as vicious … It’s frustrating they were ever allowed in the country … we can’t go back now though,” Mr Coutts said. COUTTS’ comment on a pit car mauling This sort of thing happens when people own this breed of dog and then don’t look after them.
JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a “hair-trigger” attack response. “The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets,” he said. “The only way to keep them is in a working environment.” He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of “dominance, sub-dominance”, in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.
ALEXANDRA SEMYONOVA, animal behaviorist You will also not prevent the dog from being what he is genetically predisposed to be. Because the inbred postures and behaviors feel good, fitting the body and brain the dog has been bred with, they are internally motivated and internally rewarded. This means that the behavior is practically impossible to extinguish by manipulating external environmental stimuli. The reward is not in the environment, but in the dog itself! As Coppinger and Coppinger (2001, p. 202) put it, “The dog gets such pleasure out of performing its motor pattern that it keeps looking for places to display it.” Some dogs get stuck in their particular inbred motor pattern. As pointed out above, this kind of aggression has appeared in some other breeds as an unexpected and undesired anomaly – the golden retriever, the Berner Senne hund, the cocker spaniel have all had this problem. The lovers of aggressive breeds try to use these breeding accidents to prove that their aggressive breeds are just like any other dog, “see, they’re no different from the cuddly breeds.” But a cuddly breed sometimes ending up stuck with a genetic disaster does not prove that the behavior is normal canine behavior. All it proves is that the behavior is genetically determined. “These dogs aren’t killers because they have the wrong owners,
Aww come on now Dennis. Cut and pasting Tommy Boy’s posts. At least be original. SMH
It’s just fine the way it is and doesn’t need to be re-written.
Sadly even well trained and loved pit bulls that have never shown signs of aggression have killed members of their own family. Some have even passed temperament tests. The only true indicator of a killer with dogs is breed type. I wish they were all vicious all the time it would make it much easier to spot the killer but that is not how it is. Many of these dogs have been great loving pets until t…he day they kill. Herding breeds herd with little to no training, pointers point with little to no training so we should not be surprised when fighting breeds do what they have been selectively breed for centuries to do. A dog is a result in appearance and behavior of breeding. Training is only a enhancement of those natural traits derived from selective breeding. I cannot tell you what dog will be the next killer but I can tell you with a 93% accuracy based on this years stats it will be a pit bull type dog that is responsible. Choose the pets you trust your families life with wisely.
well i was wondering when you’d chime in with your 2 bobs worth dennis, typical dribble you usually bring, no proof Dennis, cops,medics,victims and average citizens are not and i repeat as you seem to have comprehension issue, are not dog breed experts dennis? i hope i didn’t use too many big words for you dennis??
Dennis has been spending too much time in the Banta Inn. Dennis you are so wrong. These dogs are not bred to be Killers. Fighters have made it so they have no choice. Pit bulls owned by a majority of the public have no problems at all. They are good family members and live good lives. I feel it is very sad to see that you and your fellow dogs haters feel this way about any breed of dog. As someone who used to live in Tracy myself, somehow that doesn’t surprise me. Banta was the poor side of town when I was there. Could it be you, as a dog hater, the one living in the ghetto and in a mobile home? Or is it just one of those hovels they call a house there? As you can see, it is not a very nice thing to be “labeled” just because you care about a certain thing or live a certain place. Maybe you and your hater friends should take a good look in the mirror and do some serious soul searching. You all are bullying up on defenseless animals and there is something really wrong with that. There really is and you know it. I also know you were or are a truck driver right? How would I know that? I remember you from a long time ago Dennis. I believe we have met. I never forget a face.
In 30 years of rescuing and adopting pitbulls and pit mixes, I have never had bloodshed. I have raised my children with them, as well as their friends, several foster children, numerous rescued cats. Every one of them came from neglectful or abusive situations and responded to and with love and affection. I now have two pits and a chow that are integral members of my farm and family. They herd the poultry that free range on the property and my grandchildren, and deter predators. There are well over 5 million pits and mixes in the US right now. How many have you read of in the news? Fewer than 1/3 of 1% of these dogs make the news. The remaining 99.997% are family members, service dogs, therapy dogs and working dogs. You’ve based an inaccurate stereotype on a tiny percentage of these dogs, based on the opinions of biased people, not experts. Read some peer reviewed material from credentialed people in the field.
As to correct identification of the offending dogs, here’s an interesting study. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24299544
Recently Denmark made it’s Ban on 13 pit bull type dogs permanent across the country.
The Ban on pit bulls in one King County city will remain.
Enumclaw, WA. Bans pit bulls and the Enumclaw City Council was looking at an ordinance to end the ban.
After more than an hour of public comments were heard, the city council voted unanimously to keep the ban.
The Burlington City Council upheld an ordinance that bans pit bulls after hearing feedback from members of the community Monday Oct.6th in Burlington N.D.
LaFayette, Tennessee enacted a highly restrictive pit bull type dog BSL requiring it be registered with AC, a short leash, muzzle, confirmed kennel, photo, sign, no resale or transfer within the city.
Carroll County, Miss. recently enacted a pit bull Ban as well with all grandfathered pit bull type dogs having to be leaches, muzzled, kenneled with liability insurance.
Reynoldsburg, Ohio & Yakima WA both recently reaffirmed their pit bull type dog BSL Bans and kept them in place.!
FORT THOMAS, Ky, A 26 year ban on owning a pit bull in the city of Fort Thomas was kept in place Aug.4th after attempts to have it over turned were rejected by city council.
Over 700 Cities, Towns & 40 Counties in the US currently have BSL against pit bull type dogs as do over 40 other countries.
In the Prov. of Ontario in Canada Pit Bull type dogs have been banned in all 444 cities and towns in Ontario.
Country’s,
Cities, county’s, Provinces, Military Services & Towns where Pit
Bulls type Dogs are Banned or severely restricted:
https://www dot scribd dot com/doc/56495216/Estimated-U-S-Cities-Counties-States-and-Military-Facilities-with-Breed-Specific-Pit-Bull-Laws
Animal Planet
Pit Bulls Already Banned in a Dozen Countries
By Terrence McCoy Wed., Feb. 27 2013
Pit bulls have been banned the world over as well as over 700 cities, towns and counties in the US alone.
The prohibition on the pit bull type dog wouldn’t be anything unusual.
In 1989, Miami may have been one of the first communities to ban pit bulls — but it sure hasn’t been the last, raising questions as to whether it’s only a matter of time before every municipality imposes some sort of regulation on the animal.
Already, more than a dozen countries have banned pit bulls, making it, quite possibly, the most regulated and feared dog in the canine world.
Composed from various online resources, here’s a breakdown of the bans and regulations:
Countries that have enacted regulation on pit bulls (or some deviation):
**In 1991, Singapore prohibited the entry of pit bulls into the country.
**In 1993, the Netherlands banned pit bulls.
**In 1997, Poland enacted legislation enforcing pit bull owners to display “clear warning signs” and keep the animal behind reinforced fencing.
**In 2000, France banned pit bulls. The goal was to let the breed “die out.”
**In 2001, Germany banned pit bulls.
**In 2001, Puerto Rico banned pit bulls.
**In 2003, New Zealand banned the importation of pit bulls.
**In 2004, Italy banned pit bulls.
**In 2009, Australia prohibited the imports of pit bulls.
**In 2009, Ecuador banned pit bulls as pets.
**In 2010, Denmark banned pit bulls and pit bull breeding.
**In 2014, Venezuela will ban pit bulls.
Nationwide, a ban on pit bulls is also far from exceptional.
Cities that have laid down some sort of legislation:
Sioux City, Iowa
Council Bluffs, Iowa
Independence, Missouri
Royal City, Washington
Denver, Colorado
Springfield, Missouri
Youngstown, Ohio;
Melvindale, Michigan
Livingston County, Michigan.
About one pit bull in 107,000 will kill someone this year, compared to
about one other dog in 1.4 million.
About one pit bull in 5,800 will disfigure
someone, compared to about one other dog in 130,000.
About one pit bull in 107
will kill another animal, compared to about one other dog in about 50,000.
MIKE JOYNER –
“As a judge in Environmental Court who has had to deal with numerous cases of dog on dog and dog on human attacks, I can without any bias say that pit bulls are a dangerous breed. The facts speak for themselves. You cannot argue against the data.
My wife owns a doggie daycare and I have dealt with every possible breed. In the six years she has been opened there have been over 1600 dogs that have been through the doors with the exception of the pit bull. Her liability insurance company will not insure her if she takes pit bulls, and as much as I love ALL dogs I do not trust pit bulls around children or other dogs.
I have been on the bench for several cases where a pit bull attacked a child and literally pulled the scalp off of a 12 year old girl’s head. It was a neighbor’s dog and she had pet it a week before the incident, which occurred in her own backyard with the pit bull jumped the fence and attacked her without any provocation or warning. I have had numerous cases where a pit bull attacked another dog and held it down or shook it until it was dead…even in the presence of the owner of the pit bull who could do nothing to separate the dogs.
“Knowing what I know I would be negligent if I promoted pit bulls as pets to any family with children or neighbors with pets.”
Yeah, What’s wrong with children getting their faces ripped off and adults being permanently maimed and losing limbs? Don’t you know none of that is important, what is important is me and my fetish for fighting breeds of dog.
When will people stop caring about their own lives and self preservation, don’t they realize that Pit bull Owners are far more important than whether or not a child is maimed, mauled or killed. Plus, I get a massive sense of misguided feel good feelings from thinking I am doing something positive even if it is responsible for many animals and humans being regularly maimed, mauled and killed.
Can’t you see how important I am, if you could tell how important I am as much as I could, you would agree with me.
Show me verifiable proof that Pit bull Owners are not sociopathic narcissists. Prove to me that Pit bull Nutters are capable of empathy or caring about another human being other than themselves.
So a Pit bulls life is seen as an important living being, but the numerous and regular Pit bull attack victims, whether it be man, woman, child or animal, their life is not seen as important at all.
—> Oh, brother, the mindset of the average pit bull owner is a scary place!”
Yes, all these nutters should be allowed to let their pit bulls roam. Here are the New Safe Rules According to the Pit Crowd, that we all should follow:
1.Do not own and love a normal pet dog: Eventually it will be ripped apart, usually while you are walking him on his leash, usually right in from of your eyes by one of our pit bulls. The heartbreak is your own fault for owning a dog, cat, horse, goat, etc.
2. Do not get a pet thinking you will just keep it in your yard or home. Our pit bulls have the right to come through pet doors, open windows, climbed over fences, tore boards out of fences to get to your pets and kill them. This has happened several times. It was the fault of the person who chose to sit in their own living room.
3. If you don’t already, do not have children. They too are our Pit Bulls’ favorite target and they have killed 36 kids in the
last two years and mauled too many to even count, they will have their faces torn off, scalps torn off, and will face a horrible life of bullying and being picked on by cruel people. If you are stupid enough to have children, the heartbreak is your own fault for keeping Pit Bull bait.
4. Health Insurance does not and should not pay for how our Pit Bulls savage you, We Pit Bulls owners never have Insurance because it’s not fair to make us carry it. If you try to make us pay, we will terrorize you until you stop.
5. Do not ride your bike off your property anymore. Our Pit Bulls have a right to run at large. If they maul or kill you for biking in their space, it’s your own fault.
6. Do not go walking anymore. See Rule 5 above.
7.Keep your car in the garage so you do not have to go outside to get in it.
8. Do not wear perfumes or colognes. If our Pit Bull doesn’t like that particular scent, it has a right to kill you.
9. Women that are on their monthly “period cycle” should just stay home until it is over. Our Pit Bulls don’t like that smell. Your boss will understand if you need to miss a week out of every month at your job.
10. And if you decide to be brave, ignore our advice and go out into the World of the Pit Bull anyway, make sure you don’t carry a gun. Keep in mind that if you shoot a Pit Bull, you and your family will be subjected to weeks of threats and insults and terrorization by Pit Bull Owners who will find a reason to blame you for their dog attacking.
Insurance companies refuse to insure homes with ‘aggressive’ dog breeds
By CNN September 26, 2013
Owners of certain breeds of dog nationwide are being faced with a nearly impossible dilemma – keep your pet or keep your homeowner’s insurance.
Susie Salazar says that her insurance carrier dropped her because of her pit bull.
Several prominent insurance companies are making moves to drop or cancel coverage for people who own certain dog breeds that they classify to be more vicious than others.
Those companies, which include American Family Insurance and Shelter Insurance, classify several breeds, including pit bulls, doberman pinschers, German shepherds and rottweilers, as vicious enough that they are refusing to insure their owners or their homes.
“Based on sound actuarial and underwriting principles, we choose not to insure individuals with breeds known to exhibit vicious tendencies,” a Shelter Insurance spokesman told CNN in a statement.
One of those people fighting the system is Colorado resident Susie Salazar, who says American Family dropped her policy of 17 years over the fact that she owns a pit bull.
“We were informed that you have a pit bull in your home and we have to drop your coverage,” Salazar says American Family told her, according to KUSA. “You treat them the same way you treat your kids.”
In response, an American Family spokesman told KUSA that the company simply made a decision to no longer insure homes that have certain types of dog breeds.
According to the Insurance Information Institute, dog bites account for one-third of all homeowner’s insurance liability claims. That put insurance companies nationwide on the hook for $490 million in dog bite claims last year alone.
That’s no comfort to Indiana resident Brad Reinke, whom Shelter dropped after 7 years because he owned a dog of a breed they didn’t want to deal with.
JOHN FAUL, animal behaviorist
Faul said they were dangerous and a threat to life. He said the pitbull was bred to be absolutely fearless and had a “hair-trigger” attack response.
“The cardinal rule is that these dogs are not pets,” he said.
“The only way to keep them is in a working environment.”
He said the only relationship one could have with the pitbull was one of “dominance, sub-dominance”, in which the dog was reminded daily of its position.
ANDREW ROWAN, PhD, Tufts Center for Animals
“A pit bull is trained to inflict the maximum amount of damage in the shortest amount of time. Other dogs bite and hold. A Doberman or a German shepherd won’t tear if you stand still.
A pit bull is more likely to remove a piece of tissue. Dogs fight as a last resort under most circumstances. But a pit bull will attack without warning. If a dog shows a submissive characteristic, such as rolling over most dogs wills top their attack. A pit bull will disembowel its victim.”
“A study by Dr Randall Lockwood of the US Humane Society found that pit bulls are more likely to break restraints to attack someone and that pit bulls are more likely to attack their owners, possibly as a result of owners trying to separate their dogs from victims.”
Jørn Våge, Tina B Bønsdorff, Ellen Arnet, Aage Tverdal and Frode Lingaas, Differential gene expression in brain tissues of aggressive and non-aggressive dogs
The domestic dog (Canis familiaris), with its more than 400 recognised breeds [1], displays great variation in behaviour phenotypes.
Favourable behaviour is important for well-being and negative traits such as aggression may ruin the owner-dog relationship and lead to relinquishment to shelters or even euthanasia of otherwise healthy dogs [2,3].
Behavioural traits result from an interaction of both genetic and environmental factors. Breed specific behavioural traits such as hunting, herding and calmness/aggression are, however, evidence of a large genetic component and specific behaviours show high heritabilities [4-8].
ALAN BECK, Sc.D
However, Alan Beck, director of the Purdue University School of Veterinary Medicine Center of the Human-Animal Bond, favors letting the breed go into extinction.
“This breed alone is a risk of serious public health factors,” Beck said. “We are keeping them alive against their own best interests.”
Beck said while he does not advocate taking dogs from current and caring owners, he does feel that it has become more of a social and political issue for people than a health one.
“If these dogs were carrying an actual disease, people would advocate euthanizing them,” Beck said. “This breed itself is not natural.”
“It has this sort of mystique that attracts a population of people. Of course, most of these dogs are never going to bite, as champions of the breed will tell you. But most people who smoke don’t get cancer, but we know regulations help reduce a significant risk.”
“I know you’re going to get beat up for this. But they just aren’t good dogs to own. That’s why so many of them are relinquished to shelters. There are too many other breeds out there to take a chance on these guys.”
MERRITT CLIFTON, journalist, Animal People editor
There are very few people, if any, who have written more on behalf of dogs over the past 40-odd years than I have, or spent more time down the back alleys of the developing world observing dogs in the habitats in which normal dogs came to co-evolve with humans.
But appreciation of the ecological roles of street dogs & coyotes, exposing dog-eating and puppy mills, opposition to indiscriminate lethal animal control, introduction of high-volume low-cost spay/neuter and anti-rabies vaccination, introduction of online adoption promotion, encouraging the formation of thousands of new humane societies worldwide, etc., are not to be confused with pit bull advocacy.
Pit bull advocacy is not defending dogs; it is defending the serial killers of the dog world, who kill, injure, and give bad reputations to all the rest. Indeed, pit bull advocacy, because it erodes public trust in dogs and people who care about dogs, stands a good chance of superseding rabies as the single greatest threat to the health, well-being, and human appreciation of all dogs worldwide.
STANLEY COREN, PhD
“A dog’s breed tells us a lot about that dog’s genetic heritage and makeup. Genetics is a strong determinant of personality. In the absence of any other information, we can make a reasonable prediction about how the dog will behave based upon its breed.” p 84
“When we crossbreed, we lose some of that predictability, since which genes will be passed on by each parent and how they will combine is a matter of chance. Fortunately, there is some data to suggest that we can still make predispositions without knowing much about its parentage.
John Paul Scott and John L Fuller carried out a series of selective breeding experiments at the Jackson Laboratories in Bar Harbor, Maine. By happy chance, their results revealed a simple rule that seems to work. Their general conclusion was that a mixed breed dog is most likely to act like the breed that it most looks like.”
Since when does the Sentinel bow to a mob rule? What has happened to a once-proud tradition of maintaining the TRUTH of a situation. Has the SENTENEL turned into a wussy wimpy paper, worthy of only lining the bird cage or wrapping fish? If you think this is ‘bad’ you should see how the Pit ‘apologists’ rip into victims when they have the daring to speak out about the horrible truths.
Health care professionals see the results of the pit bull craze, and responsible citizens are advised to listen to the physicians on the front lines rather than a fringe special interest group.
Quote from Dr. David Billmire, Director of the Division of
Craniofacial and Plastic Surgery at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital:
“When I started my career, the most common dog-bite injuries were from German shepherds and occasionally retrievers. These injuries were almost always provoked, such as food-related or stepping on the dog, and in almost every instance, the dog reacted with a single snap and release––essentially a warning shot. There were no pack attacks. Starting about 25 years ago, my colleagues and I started to see disturbingly different types of injuries. Instead of a warning bite, we saw wounds where the flesh was torn from the victim. There were multiple bite wounds covering many
different anatomical sites. The attacks were generally unprovoked, persistent and often involved more than one dog. In every instance the dog involved was a pit bull or a pit bull mix.”
These are the losers disrespecting victims of pitbulls at a recent canine victims memorial in Grand Rapids Michigan. These people routinely run at the scene of an attack and mock, belittle, and denigrate victims. You don’t want to attract these types to your community. They are sociopathic mean-spirited people that come from the bottom of the barrel in all respects.
That kind of hysteria is certainly on par with what so many of your friends seem to be like Joanie. We have definitely compared the psychology of Westboro with those of Colleen Lynn. It’s very similar in both hysteria, misinformation and need for both berating and publicity. Again, much like you selling dolls covered in fake blood on ebay. We don’t think that those people should have done that. It was disrespectful. But it does not give you a pass on your own behavior.
admins seriously?? THIS PICTURE IS RELEVANT HOW??? ADMINS????
ADMINS THIS IS RELEVANT HOW??? ADMINS???
what you fail to see or comprehend is that surgeon has based his opinion on the belief that dog breed identification and confirmation had been done where as we all know that no dogs have been DNS’d to confirm breeds, coupled with the fact that dog bite stats have not been kept in places that have BSL how you can claim to know anything is beyond me amd by all means continue to do so as it akes our task so much easily achieved thank you
Remove the ban and people, mostly kids will die,hundreds of people will receive life changing attacks which unlike other normal dog bites will involve years of plastic reconstruction.
In 2014 35 people have been killed by dogs. 31 of them by pit bulls.
This is a FREEDOM Of Speech issue. Few Denver citizens know that pitbull type dogs have continued to kill the most people and pets and again this year they have killed many adults and children including family members and neighbors who had the unfortunate experience of encountering a neighbors suddenly vicious pitbull that managed to break through their fencing. A 59 year old man died days ago in Cailifornia. He came home and found the neighbors pitbulls had broken out of their fenced yard made of steel and were attacking his 90 year old mother. The poor man died a horrible death and his mother is in a coma. Lions attack like this, DOG’s Don’t. A free press doesn’t bow down to the criticisms of special interest groups. The canine fatality victims memorial Out of the Blue was also protested by pitbull advocates who wanted the memorial to censor the type of dog that had killed the majority of the victims: Pitbulls. Censorship is for third world countries. When pitbull advocates have to censor the truth from public newspapers, television news programs, and public displays to promote their dogs and laws pertaining to their bully breeds, you know there is a problem. Any Newspaper that bows down to bully breed advocates and asks people to CENSOR truth and water it down so its not so TRUTHFUL in appearance is going to lose readers. Why not let the readers decide? Newspapers run ads for questionable weight loss and beauty treatment techniques but they want to bow down to the well organized pitbull advocates who pressure local governments by bringing in “advocates” from around the world to give the FALSE appearance that everyone is pro pitbull. The majority of citizens still care about the safety and well being of their children, neighbors and family members. They don’t want the dogs that suddenly change from dogs into unstoppable killing machines that maul like lions in their neighborhoods.
Hay Brian, what you mean by this?
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-XAvicRSJyEA/VEC_kN5yn-I/AAAAAAAAAX4/4v4q6cqBa-Q/s1600/10653825_736430703078536_4060218989445790483_n.jpg
They are vile bullies. There is no community that wants to attract these low life disgusting degenerates.
This is the disgusting, immoral show of disregard for the victms of pitbulls shown by bully breed advocates recently at ArtPrize Out of the Blue dog fatality memorial in Grand Rapids Michigan. They do not care about victims. The internet is full of survivors begging for help as the pitbull owners that were responsible for disfiguring and disabling maulings can’t be found or are uninsured renters. People are losing their homes, ruining their credit and losing their businesses to pay huge medical and plastic surgery bills that are not covered. VOTE No and remember that the “supposed” advocates that showed up at the canine victims memorial had pitbulls for sale on their personal faceboook pages even when the dogs are overbred like flies.
admins this pic is relevant how???
Do you want to hide the disgusting lack of morals of pit bull lovers? Or, how little the deaths of victims mean to them? Why are you afraid to have this picture shown? Because people of Aurora don’t want the pit bull dogs, nor people like this, the pit bull apologists, in their community. Aurora…stand up to this threat. KEEP THE BAN!!!
Why are you arguing about whether this should come to a vote, and why are you stating categorically that the people of Aurora don’t want pit bulls in their community? They will determine that when they vote.
As for the morals of pitbull advocates, I think you don’t want to go there unless you would like some copy and paste action here displaying the outrageous comments on some of your own sites. I just was told yesterday that I must have an intact male pitbull because I couldn’t get a man. The response was to the posting of a link to an empirical study refuting a myth he was promoting. It is obvious to all that when you have no concrete evidence to back up your stereotypes you stoop to character assassination. Although this is what you just did, it is not meant specifically for you. It seems to be the pattern for all DBO participants.
Yep, that’s an example of the stinky turd that is pit bull advocacy, aka. “BULLY breed” advocacy.
Its an easy vote, Ask yourself do you want to allow backyard breeding, raise taxes to house and euthanize overbred pitbulls, increase gang-related violence that goes up when pitbulls come into an area, lower property values, and inhumanely euthanize more dogs.. Grant money is earmarked across the country to offer free and no cost spay and neutering to pitbull owners but they sill fail to spay and neuter more than any other dog owners. And they want owners of horses, pets, and farm animals to pay the price when the pitbulls continue to slaughter other animals with regularity iftem in front of horrified children. Oh and you want the noise of pitbull advocates from outside the local area to band together their voices from across the globe to dictate your local laws? Oh and you also want to divert the resources of the police and put them in harms way when they have to back up animal control and shoot pitbulls. And you want to subsidize the costs of public insurance that victims often need to utilize to pay their huge medical bills. You want to take the risk that you or one of your children will lose a body part and be disfigured so they can have the self esteem booster of growing up looking like an war victim? You want to risk that you or a child will spend months in and out of hospitals, and have to endure as many as 50 or more surgeries because a nice pitbull suddenly went haywire? You want to take the risk that your son will be castrated by a pitbull attack as has happened in other communites, so he can rely on sex hormones to try to look normal when he reaches puberty and never live a sex normal life? You don’t want to consider the fact that pitbulls were made popular by breeders and dog fighters after dog fighting was illegal and they want pitbulls in every nook in cranny so they can protect their sadistic sport? Pitbull bans are not to stop bites, so don’t let the biased unfactual “research” phase you. Pitbull bans are effective, intelligent, and humane safety measures that protect humans, pets, and pitbulls. Look at these people disrespecting the dead victims of pitbulls. These are not the kind of people you want to attract to your community. They have no hearts, commons sense, decency or respect.
These are published, peer-reviewed studies and city records quoted from city officials. Not one of these originated from a source with obvious conflict of interest. By no means is this an exhaustive list, but it shows that the “equal treatment for pit bulls” viewpoint is not supported by a true facts-based analysis:
“Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict
regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites.” https://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx
“When bite rates were determined by breed, Pit Bulls were 5 times more likely to bite than all other breeds combined.” https://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA381425&Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf
“More severe bites and injuries were observed in attacks from the pit-bull and Rottweiler breeds.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22235708
“More than 30 different offending breeds were documented in the medical records. The most common breeds included pit bull terriers (50.9 percent), Rottweilers (8.9 percent), and mixed breeds of the two aforementioned breeds (6 percent).”
https://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Abstract/2009/08000/Pediatric_Dog_Bite_Injuries__A_5_Year_Review_of.28.aspx
“A retrospective review was performed at two urban children’s hospitals from 1996-2005 of all dog attacks presenting to the plastic surgery service. Charts were reviewed with analysis of patient demographics, injury site, operative
intervention, and dog-specific data…57% of dogs were deemed to be
of a dangerous breed (Pit Bull or Rottweiler).” https://aaps1921.org/abstracts/2008/P13.cgi
“Significantly more pit bull injuries (94% vs 43%) were the consequence of unprovoked attacks.” https://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/88/1/55.short
“Of the 199 US dog bite fatalities for which breed is known, pure breed pit bull and pit bull cross breeds were most frequently involved.” https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/7/4/321.short
“It is remarkable that five out of eight fights which led to the death of the victim involved the clearly over-represented group of fighting dogs. Three lethal injuries were caused by American Staffordshire Terriers, one death was caused by a Bull Terrier, and another dog died after a fight with a Pit Bull Terrier.” https://www.azs.no/artikler/art_agressive.pdf
“In attacks where guide dogs were injured, dogs belonging to bull breeds were the most common aggressors (41.5 per cent)…Most injuries to people occurred in
attacks involving an aggressor belonging to a bull breed (52.6 per cent).” https://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/166/25/778.abstract
“During the one-year period between June 1986 and June 1987, 14 people were killed by dogs in the United States. Ten of those 14 deaths are attributed to pit bulls. Thus, 71% of the deaths during that period were attributed to a type of dog
that accounts for 1% of the US dog population…Most breeds do not repeatedly bite their victims; however, a pit bull attack has been compared to a shark attack and often results in multiple bites and extensive soft tissue loss (3,10). Although the teeth of dogs are not very sharp, they can exert a force of 200 to 450 psi. Pit bulls
inflict more serious bite wounds than do other breeds because they tend to attack the deep muscles, hold on, and shake.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3238616
“This breed has an intensity and duration of attack not seen in other dogs. This leads to severe injuries and, in some cases, death of the victim (human or animal).”
https://veterinaryrecord.bmj.com/content/168/5/133.abstract
“Dog bite injury hospitalization (DBIH) rate in Winnipeg relative to Brandon (a city without BSL) was significantly lower after BSL in people of all ages…Conclusions:
BSL may have resulted in a reduction of DBIH in Winnipeg, and appeared more effective in protecting those aged <20 years.”
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389
“OBJECTIVE: To analyse population-based data on hospitalisation caused by dog bite injuries after changes in legal regulations on dog ownership, including
breed-specific regulations…RESULTS: There has been a significant
decline in hospitalisation caused by injuries from dog bites.”
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/20805621/?i=3
“Since the ban has been in place, bites are down 73 percent from pit bulls,” said Cheryl Conway, a spokeswoman for the city’s animal care division. She added that the dogs placed a tremendous burden on city staff. According to city documents, before the ordinance was enacted in 2005, up to 70 percent of kennels in the Aurora Animal Shelter were occupied by pit bulls with pending court disposition dates or with no known owner. That number is now only 10 to 20 percent of kennels.
“There hasn’t been a human mauling in many years. Complaints and requests related to pit bulls are down 50 percent. Euthanasia of pit bull dogs is down 93 percent.”
https://www.aurorasentinel.com/news/city-lawmakers-uphold-auroras-ban-pit-bulls/
“According to statistics taken from the Springfield-Greene County Health Department…for the three-year period beginning in 2004, there were 42 "vicious" animal attacks recorded in the jurisdiction covered. After passing the local
ordinance banning or strictly controlling the ownership of pit bull or pit bull types, the number of attacks has dropped dramatically. For the five-year period from 2007-2011, there was a total of 14.” https://www.news-leader.com/story/opinion/readers/2014/03/25/sb-pull-pit-bull-protection-bill/6887605/
“Between 2009 and 2010, there were 233 reported incidents involving pit bull attacks against people and other dogs in Anne Arundel County. In that same time frame, the next closest breeds, German shepherds and Labrador retrievers, caused just 93 incidents combined. According to Lt. Glenn Shanahan of Anne Arundel County Animal Control, pit bull terriers lead all other breeds in the county by at least two to one when it comes to attacks over the last five years.
“The numbers say what they say. We’re not making it up,” Shanahan said. “It’s demonstrably overwhelming.” https://severnapark.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/pit-bull-incidents-outnumber-other-dog-attacks-2-to-1-2
In regards to the myth that visual identification of pit bulls is not possible or reliable, a DNA test study funded by the ASPCA showed that 96% of 91 dogs visually
categorized as pit bulls or pit bull mixes, when DNA tested for breed, were indeed pit bulls or pit bull mixes: https://aspcapro.org/blog/2013/09/25/bully-this%E2%80%94-results-are-in%E2%80%A6
As a lifelong animal advocate. I’m urging Aurora to vote NO on Proposition 2D, a measure to remove the city’s restrictions on pit bull dogs.
Per the city’s own data, euthanasia of pit bulls dropped by 93 percent since the law went into effect. Pit bull attacks are down 73 percent. Complaints about pit bulls have been cut in half. https://www.aurorasentinel.com/news/city-lawmakers-uphold-auroras-ban-pit-bulls/
It’s a similar story in Denver, where pit bulls have been regulated since 1989. A 2014 study published in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science found that Denver’s dog euthanasia rates fell by 77 percent after the city enacted its pit bull law. Instead of drowning in a flood of unwanted pit bulls, Denver shelters are able to save almost every homeless dog that comes through the door. https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10888705.2014.856250?journalCode=haaw20&#.UyeYrs7HiA
In cities where pit bulls aren’t regulated, they make up one to two thirds of all dogs in shelters. It’s estimated that more than one million of them are euthanized every year. But thanks to its pit bull law, Denver appears to be killing fewer pit bulls than any other major city.
Preferring to keep lawmakers and the public in the dark, pit bull lobbyists circulate an image of pit bulls that’s all sweetness and light. Amongst themselves, however, they readily admit that these dogs are risky. Organizations including the ASPCA admit that aggression toward other animals is typical for pit bulls. Pit bull fanciers have praised the breed’s “gameness” for decades — gameness being a euphemism for “won’t let go no matter what.” The vast majority of deadly dog-on-dog attacks involve pit bulls.
Pit Bull Rescue Central and many other groups quietly recommend “break sticks” to all pit bull owners. A break stick is a tool designed to pry open a pit bull’s jaws in the event of an attack. No other dog requires special jaw-prying tools.
Pit bull lobbyists even promote a “crate and rotate” strategy to keep a pit bull from killing the other pets it lives with. “Crate and rotate” turns homes into supermax prisons where only one pet can be allowed out of its cage at a time.
Let’s break that down: Pit bull lobbyists are asking Aurora to remove proven effective regulations on pit bulls, while fully acknowledging that pit bulls are “typically” aggressive to other animals, require physical force and special tools to stop their attacks, and cannot even be trusted with their own housemates.
Are you kidding me?
Don’t confuse pit bull lobbyists with animal lovers. Pit bull lobbyists are not animal advocates. They are members of an extraordinarily self-centered special interest group bent on deregulating pit bulls regardless of the astronomical costs to humans, animals, and pit bulls themselves.
A yes to proposition 2D is a yes to more pit bull attacks, more pit bull problems, and more dead pit bulls. Vote NO on 2D.
That is impressive.
Those who pretend to be ‘pit bull advocates’, but are against pit bull bans, are mercilessly ignoring the fact that banning pit bulls is GOOD FOR PIT BULLS. It dramatically decreases PIT BULL DEATHS. Here’s an example of what happened when the Netherlands lifted its pit bull ban. It was putting down about 30 pit bulls yearly during the ban. Now that the ban is lifted, thousands are being euthanized every year because no one wants them — including the so-called pit bull lovers. Even if these people don’t care about the many human and non-pit-bull animal deaths, they should care about (and acknowledge) how good a ban is for the pit bulls themselves.
https://17barks.blogspot.nl/2012/06/pit-bulls-and-shelter-bankruptcy.html
Absolutely ridiculous that we have to sit here and have a discussion with a bunch of whiny, over-entitled “people” who are essentially complaining that they have to contain their monsters. Oh please, why can’t we continue to maul and kill people? We LOVE our dogs. If you were truly dog or animal lovers, you would fight FOR breed specific legislation. Pit bulls are the NUMBER ONE KILLER of domestic pets. Over 40,000 have died to these beasts.
For decades people have been listening to pro pit bull bile about responsible ownership. By now, hasn’t it sunk in that it ain’t going to happen? Responsible does not belong in the same sentence as pit bull owners. Responsible people don’t introduce dangerous animals into the community or their households. Responsible people don’t put the public’s lives at risk because they want what they want when they want it, despite the wiseness of it. No other breed has organized crime backing it. No other breed has to lie and threaten victims and those who speak publicly. No other breed disbelieves stories in the media showing full details of victims’ names and stories. No other breed is used to commit murder on a regular basis by thugs who claim they “love” dogs. No other breed is so non-compliant with spay and neuter laws.
Pit bull owners are the epitome of a dumbed-down America. Don’t bother to do any research, throw tantrums when challenged rather than try to figure out workable solutions, hide within the masses and their perpetuated myths rather than advocate responsibly for TRUE causes and fail to contribute to society in any meaningful manner.
you really aren’t real smart are you?? honestly do you expect people to take any notice of a coward hiding behind a fake name?? seriously?? I’m not having a go?? I’m serious? do you really expect people to read a word you so other then to be amused by how stupid you are?
The American Veterinary Medical Association, Center for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Animal Control Association, the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, the American Kennel Club, the National Association of Dog Obedience Instructors and the International Association of Canine Professionals, have all emphatically stated Breed Bans are not the answer. All these associations against an organization whose sole purpose is hating a particular breed of dog, dogsbite.org. For myself, I will go with the science and not the hate.
Personally I’d go with the reality of all the children killed, maimed, and scarred by pit bull type dogs. If a breed ban doesn’t solve the problem then require a permit and very expensive insurance to own one and also pass and enforce laws targeted at irresponsible owners.
The dead would disagree.
The mutilated, the broken, the heart-sore, the bereaved, the devastated, the pet owner with nothing but memories, the farmer with his prized stock flayed and decimated, the parents at the gravesides of their children… no, they would disagree.
And their testimony is a thousand, a MILLION times more powerful than ‘science’. Science moves all the time, that is the nature of science.
DogsBite is not about ‘hate’ – it is about EDUCATION and HONEST REVELATION.
When it is ONE particular type/breed of dog doing the PREDOMINANCE of damage, then it IS BREED SPECIFIC, and BREED SPECIFIC BANS OR COMPLIANCE LEGISLATIONS MAKE PERFECT COMMON SENSE.
We need to keep thsee killers off our streets and out of our neighborhoods.
Taking all the nuance out of an issue and making every argument black or white, is great for raising funds for your .org, but it isn’t doing anything to educate people about the problem. There is a large group of well reasoned people, vets, scientists, police and politicians who seek out the truth in this highly contentious issue. We’re caught in the middle of a hysterical few and a group of knuckleheads. The hysterical few will inset that every single pit bull, defined by up to 26 different breeds, and their owners are hell bent on destruction. The knuckleheads are bad owners who want the image of a tough dog to fill some shortcoming in their sad little lives. And they make their dogs aggressive, no matter the breed. There are also a large group of people who know so little about dogs that they are not fit to be an owner of any dog whatsoever. Their dogs are not socialized, their dogs are not trained, they do nothing to get the dog’s respect, and those dogs will make their own rules. All of these factors creates a lot of confusion and anger on all sides. Yes, nearly every pit bull will never harm anyone. This is a fact. By an overwhelming majority this is the norm, good, gentle family dogs. So this isn’t a black and white issue. This is an issue badly in need of less hysterical rhetoric and well reasoned ideas. I find it concerning that the most hateful rhetoric is not aimed at the knuckleheads who train their dogs to be aggressive, rather, most of the nasty rhetoric is aimed at good, loving dog owners. Unfortunately so is Breed Specific Legislation.
Pit Bulls are comprised of 26 breeds??? Name those breeds, sir. And do NOT include Boxers, Boston Terriers or Pugs, thank you very much. Those dogs are not Fighting Bull Breed dogs. Also, you seem rather old-fashioned in your thought-processes.
You are surely aware that the days of the Pit Bull as the canine icon of the underclass is coming to an end? You are aware that these dogs have entered middle America; that wealthy and famous people have now jumped onto the bloodied Pit Bull bandwagon as well? That your idea of the thug with the canine sidearm is now not always the case?
We are seeing more and more women owning Pit Bulls. Older women, women who believe they are Animal Rights people, young girls, married women with children who have bought into the Nanny Dog myth – these dogs have infected ALL areas. Nearly every Shelter is full to the gunnels with these dogs and their mixes; people WANT normal dogs, but they are being coerced into ‘the sweet Pittie, the poor bait dog who just wants love’ and they are ALSO being blatantly LIED to by Shelter workers – calling Pit Bulls and their very obvious Pit Mixes things like ‘Lab X’ and ‘Terrier Mix’.
You seem to be possessing of very little understanding of Fighting Breed dogs, I am sorry to say; instead latching onto that tiresome and invalid argument that a Pit Bull dog has to be TAUGHT to fight and kill in order to do those things. The dead of America and those mutilated by loving pet Pit Bulls that had never shown aggression and who most CERTAINLY had never been taught to fight or been mistreated, would beg to differ.
With regards to BSL – we had a Pit Bull in our own family which had to be made BSL compliant or she would have lost her life. It was NOT hard. We were given MONTHS to make arrangements. She had to be spay/neutered. She had to be registered at the local Police Station. She had to be microchipped. She had to wear a muzzle and a leash in public. It was NOT HARD. My family were (and are) good dog owners. It was the BAD dog owners, the ones who flouted the legislation and how refused to make their dog(s) compliant, they were the ones that had their dogs seized. They hollered to the tree-tops about how unfair it was, how blood was on EVERYONE ELSE’S HANDS, but the blood of those dogs was on THEIR hands.
You cannot claim that ‘nearly every Pit Bull will never harm anyone’. Impossible to claim. We see SO often, owners who have sustained Pit Bull attack injuries who deny that the dog carried out that attack – we even had a couple who blamed a COUGAR on the injuries that their pet Pit Bull had inflicted on their bodies. Time and time again, we read of a Pit Bull attacking a stranger, a dog, a cat, and what does the Pit Bull owner do? He grabs his dog and he RUNS AWAY. There goes yet another attack from yet another Pit Bull that didn’t get reported/named and shamed. One should also ask… where are all the old pet Pit Bulls? Not very many of them around. I wonder why.
I can tell you why. Most of them will not live long enough to make old age, due to increasingly erratic and concerning behaviour, if not outright shows of aggression.
Or maybe a space-ship descends and takes all the ageing population of Pit Bulls to new worlds?
A mystery. Or not.
Most people experienced in dogs cannot tell the difference between all of these breeds. Let alone someone in a very stressful encounter with a dog. As it turns out, many dogs are not properly IDd. Since the ONLY information that comprises these lists are witnesses who don’t know the difference between all these different breeds, here is a list of what are identified as “pit bulls” or “Pit Bull Type Dog”: American Bulldog, American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Bull Terrier, Mini Bull Terrier, Olde English Bulldog, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Cane Corso, Dogo Argentino, Flia Brasileiro, Presa Canario, Boxer, Thai Ridgeback, Alpha Blue Blood Bulldog, Black Mouth Cur, Catahoula, Dogue De Bordeau, Ca De Bou, Patterdale Terrier, Bull Mastif, Boerboel, Alano, Espanol, Even a labrador has been called a pit bull by a police officer who shot him while sitting in a van. And here’s a quote from Thomas McCartney – “Mindy M Wrong that dog type Rhodesian ridgeback is a pit bull type dog just by another name, 6 of one half a dozen of another.” So many breeds are grouped into this category and are often purposely used to skew stats.
Nothing to copy and paste?
still nothing to cut and paste? crickets…
“You cannot claim that ‘nearly every Pit Bull will never harm anyone” Yes I can with absolute 100% certainty. There are millions and millions and millions of these dogs (26 different breed and a combination of mixes, see my comment below) and the attacks are merely a fraction of the total number of these dogs. Which, in simple mathematic terms, nearly every single one of these dogs will never harm anyone.
Ludicrous attempts by money motivated pitbull advocates to censor TRUTH. Would the paper ask Mothers Against Drunk Drivers to soften their ads and not tell the truth? Pitbulls have been the top killers of humans and pets for decades. Any paper that even considered censoring this truth because of public noise would never again be a trusted news source.
This is the sympathy pitbull advocates give to the parents of dead children, mothers, fathers and grandparents at canine victims memorial. These people are so duped by the propaganda and so energized by belonging to this cult of selfishness that allows anyone to enter, they completely forget that that they are trampling on the memories of deeply traumatized families that had loved ones painfully and savagely torn apart. They can’t think about anything but themselves, pitbulls and making money off the dogs. Could you imagine an NRA advocate showing off guns at a Sandy Hook memorial. These selfish and uncaring “advocates” have shown how low they will go to censor truth. Keep them out at all costs. https://woodtv.com/2014/09/28/pit-bull-owners-protest-at-dog-attack-artprize-entry/
ADMINS HOW IS THIS PICTURE RELEVANT TO THE SUBJECT MATTER WE ARE DISCUSSING??? ADMINS?? HELLO??
Why does the Colorado Department of Health and Environment say you are 50% more likely to be hospitalized (not treated and released) from dog bite in Denver than the rest of the state if bans work?
Here’s the deal with Denver COUNTY – per the website itself, those statistics are by county hospital release numbers. Denver county is roughly the same size as the city of Denver which has a very small land area with the highest population density of the entire state. The high population density Denver metropolitan area includes six surrounding counties – Adams, Arapahoe, Broomfield, Denver, Douglas and jefferson although the federally defined MSA includes TEN surrounding counties.
In addition, Denver county is the only county to have have both the largest level one trauma center and a level 2 pediatric trauma center which will receive serious injuries including the most serious dog maulings from the contiguous counties WITHOUT BREED BANS, and also a good portion of southern colorado rural counties WITHOUT BREED BANS.
The seriously mauled victims from Longmont CO. humane society’s program to adopt out “rehabilitated” aggressive pit bulls into that community would likely be transported to Denver County hospitals.
https://tablet.olivesoftware.com/Olive/Tablet/DenverPost/SharedArticle.aspx?href=TDP%2F2014%2F07%2F14&id=Ar00212
That’s why their hospital release rates per capita are higher.
Here’s the deal with your response: It’s a lie. The statistics compiled by the Colorado Department of Health and Environment are clearly stated to be collected by county of residence. If you disagree you may want to let them know they list 10,350 persons as being hospitalized since 2000 in counties with no hospitals.
i find the suppression of the first amendment to be much more disturbing than these savage maulings. shame on the denver post for buckling to the shrill rantings of pit bull zealots for printing FACTS.
Hi Dawn! What suppression exactly? What the Denver Post addressed was that it is actually an issue campaign and under CO law, groups need to file as such. We all have to follow the rules. It has nothing to do with first amendment rights.
paragraph 3
“After the ad ran, an employee with the Post’s advertising
department asked Borchardt if he could revise the ad to make it “not so
in your face” going forward. In email correspondence obtained by Sentinel, the employee wrote Borchardt that the Post
had received “a ton of hate mail and complaints” in response to it.
Borchardt said Post advertising officials told him they would refuse the
ad unless he modified he because of the complaints from pit-bull
proponents.”
The Post should be deeply ashamed of their anti First Ammendment stance to succumb to the interest of pitbull fanatics. They would never think of asking MADD mothers against drunk drivers to dilute and change an advertisement. Shame on the Denver POST!
He is running and issue campaign along with DBO and not filing as such which is required of Colorado law. Please understand CO law before you speak.
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press” Now please explain what this ad has to do with the First Amendment…
Jeff also said we did not respond to the Sentinel for a statement which was patently false. Exactly where would be the credibility when it comes to his statement? He can most certainly post the email the Denver Post sent him. Until then, you’ll have to forgive us if we take the statement with a grain of salt.
Testing.
oh and woah and behold the golden one chimes in with an absolute gem!! lol!!! when you have a fraud using lies promoting another fraud to the detriment of average americans for no other reason then hate?? it’s aptly labbelled “hate speech” , it’s something your fluent in??
go back and read the First Amendment. It has nothing to do with ads published in privately owned newspapers.
interesting response. i’m not aware of any publicly owned newspapers. so, i say kudos for your ingenious attempt at deflection, karen delise would be impressed. as for the “ad”, it is not like dr rima laibow claiming to have a cure for ebola. jeff’s ad is bare bones. it doesn’t state pit bulls are different or more dangerous. it states a simple and irrefutable fact: pit bulls kill more people and animals than all other breeds combined. the less is more approach is probably what really scares the pit bull industrial complex.
you get a hearty LOL for accusing me of “deflection” for suggesting you read the First Amendment after you claim it means something it doesn’t and then meandering (or shall I say “deflecting”?) into a different subject.. Do the words “Congress shall make no law” ring a bell? At all? Bueller?
using dogbite as a source!!! for what propaganda?? how about Jeff uses some reputable sources which have not been exposed to be nothing more then a pitbashing organization that uses Merrit Clifton junk research as scientific statitistics? what a joke!! Colleen freely admits BSL is about killing piutbulls, she also states clearly that she hoped by killing pitbulls the bite stats would fall but they havn’t it’s quite the contrary as the death toll surpasses previous numbers alrerady this year?? If Daxton’s friends truly cared about community safety Jeff wouldn’t be telling everyone they’re perfectly safe so long as there’s ne pitbulls around which couldn’t be further from the truth?? Grow a pair Sentinel and kick this moron Bogart to the street!1 he is directly through his actions adding to the death toill and the anquish of victims and citizens alike?? I am sorry if I havn’t fullfilled Jeff’s perception of a “pitnutter”” you see I don’t even own a pitbull and it’s the same with a lot of pitbull advocates!! we don’t receive money from the pit fighters as Jeff regularly claims we simply want to stop all deaths and not the pitbull related deaths and if Jeff was concerned with community safety as opposed to wanting revenge against a a breed/type of dog because of the 2 dogs that killed his son, a death that has raised a lot of questions about not only the dogs but the baby sitter too, any one who reads the whole story surrounding what happened to Dax would be asking questions many things don’t make sense but the only ones that really know what happenede that day are Dax and Sussan and Dax is dead and Sussan is lying clearly having changed her story several times much like Colleen talking about her attack, both of which are very suspicious??
What a hideous post. Paragraph breaks are your friend.
Again, please provide DETAILS of where DogsBite is not trustworthy?
There are a lot of frothing accusations and teenage hysterics flooding your post – but very little of substance.
All in all, pointless. Just your OWN inane ramblings. And a lot of ugly name-calling/blethering. Calling a bereaved parent a ‘moron’, for example.
But do bring on some PROOF of how DogsBite is untrustworthy.
wow,, Lesley was that you saying that we should stick to sobject and not be drawn into name calling etc blah blah, the minute someone asks you the hard questions to which you have nothing but lies>>
just to give your brain time to keep up there’s your paragraph !, talk about an absolute hypocrit? I suppose you’ll get me blocked now Lesley?? modus operandi straight out of the foamers handbook??
there is a movement manifesting itself now with the sole purpose of invoking a class action against the pitbashers, 17 burps, criven desyre, and the rest of their mottly crew including Daxtons which will seek damages from these bashers for the promotion of such activities as stabbing dogs, anti freezing dogs (the nutters death method of favor), we will be seeking to have compensation for dog owners who have lost pets to this type of behaviour that daxtons and dog bite promotes.
Good lord.
I am not jesting here; please PLEASE get some help. And soon.
Stabbing dogs? Please provide proof of ONE stabbed Pit Bull (and believe me, that would have been all OVER the internet).
Anti-freezing dogs? Please provide proof of ONE poisoned Pit Bull (which again would have been all OVER the internet).
You have gone quite quite mad. I feel both embarrassed and sorry for you.
🙁
https://www.inquisitr.com/1497171/man-stabs-pit-bull-puppy-over-20-times-before-tossing-the-dog-in-the-woods/
there you go folks!! Lesley is obviously deaf dumb and mute as well as being a liar considering she has commented on the Clara pitbull stabbing incident articles, and it’s a well known fact that anti freeze is the foamers poison of choice with them bragging about it’s successfull use on all their hater site of which I’d reckon young Lesley liar Luscombe is an admin?
Pit bull isn’t even one breed of dog and each town, shelter and person can’t even uniformly agree on what breeds and mixes constitutes a pit bull in this country. Pit bull is an overused, inaccurate term. Dogs in shelters are labeled by sight. It’s a guessing game and the labeling is used to make it easier for the shelter staff and adopters but it is certainly not accurate and condemns some dogs before you even get to know the dog. The only breed of dog that has pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. The majority of dogs that kill are mixed breed dogs and even the CDC has stopped determining breeds in a mixed breed dog that kills. DNA testing isn’t accurate enough. Why do people still blame a pit bull when it’s not even one breed of dog or uniformly agreed upon in this country as to what pit bull means? When news reports say pit bull it could mean an American Pit Bull Terrier, a boxer mix, a mastiff mix, and many breeds of dogs that may cause a dog to have some type of block head. Totally unfair to keep on persecuting dogs that no one can even agree on what is a pit bull in this country. The human is the cause for fatalities. Focus on the human and stop blaming a dog for being a dog.
Re: Letter to the editor, Breed-specific language ‘inherently flawed and does not work,’ Burnaby NOW, Sept. 10, 2013.
Dear Editor:
DogsBite dot org advocates on behalf of victims of serious dog attacks. The United States-based 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization also tracks U.S. dog bite fatalities, dog bite injury studies, jurisdictions with breed-specific laws and appellate court rulings that uphold these laws.
Statistical data from DogsBite dot org is cited in the peer-reviewed scientific medical study, Mortality, Mauling, and Maiming by Vicious Dogs, published in the Annals of Surgery in April 2011.
The study’s conclusion:”Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites.”
The amicus brief DogsBite dot org submitted in the landmark case, Tracey v. Solesky, helped move Maryland’s highest court to modify common law.
In April 2012, the Court of Appeals declared pitbulls “inherently dangerous” and attached strict liability when a pitbull attacks a person. This liability extends to landlords when a tenant’s pitbull attacks a person.
The Maryland Court of Appeals went as far as pointing out in their decision – concerning the opposing brief written by the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, which sought to eliminate a financial remedy for the young mauling victim – the following:”Some are similar to the arguments made in the appellant or amicus’ briefs filed in the present case by supporters of pitbulls.
In light of Maryland’s situation, we find those particular arguments unpersuasive. We have fully reviewed and considered all the briefs.”
Research and statistical data from DogsBite dot org has exceptional credibility with appellate court justices, surgeons and medical practitioners, attorneys who champion and represent dog mauling victims, the many local, national and international news agencies which have cited our data, parents and activists and of course the victims themselves.
Colleen Lynn
Founder and President, DogsBite dot org
Austin, TX
Dog bite website defends its credentials
Re: Punish aggressive behaviour of individual dogs, not the breed, Opinion, Sept. 18
The co-authors of the article falsely state Vancouver Sun columnist Stephen Hume “bases his facts and statistics on data that is neither peer reviewed nor published in scientific publications, and is therefore unreliable.”
The co-authors then cite DogsBite dot org as one source of Hume’s data.
Both authors ignored the peer-reviewed scientific study Hume wrote about in his article: Mortality, mauling, and maiming by vicious dogs, by John K. Bini, MD, et al., published in the Annals of Surgery in April 2011.
Pit bull injury data from DogsBite dot org is cited in several areas of this study. Hume indisputably relied upon peer-reviewed data and Dogs-Bite dot org data has been published in a peer-reviewed scientific publication.
The pair next state: “This American-based group is run by an attack victim whose only agenda is to exterminate what it considers to be ‘dangerous breeds.'”
DogsBite dot org is a tax-exempt public charity organization with a board of directors, advisers and volunteers with the following mission: “A national dog bite victims’ group dedicated to reducing serious dog attacks.”
Hume got it right.
Colleen Lynn President and founder, DogsBite dot org
credentials!!! your as big of a joke as the alleged dog expert Colleen (don’t let the facts get in the road of a good story Lynn!! name one expert that actually supports DBO veiws?? you can’t because there are none?? so go back to your copy and paste infection campaign and pollute every blog you find with your lies and mis information Thomarse but know this!! you are directly contributing to the death toll through your lies deceipt and fear mongering??
Rubbish, Merritt Clifton & Colleen Lynn of Dogsbite dot org compile dog attack incidents reported by the mainstream media where all aspects of said attack including confirming it was a pit bull type dog is done by first responders, animal and dog experts who are actually there, their stats are impeccably researched and compiled to accurately reflect the reality of the danger that is the pit bull type dog.
Merritt Clifton & Colleen Lynn of Dogsbite dot org amasses data from mediareports of dog attacks, media reports are a traditionally well respected, bona fide source for epidemiologists and historians of every subject on earth.
Researchers in 39 countries had uncovered the same data Clifton et al have, and arrived at similar conclusions about pit bulls.
If Clifton is a fraud, how come insurance companies and 35 other countries that ban pit bulls in some jurisdictions and who did not rely on Clifton’s statistics all came to the same conclusions? Cooper is trying to suggest that only “epidemiologists” have the right to speak on this issue. But as Merritt says, it is actuarial tables that are important, and therefore Cooper is barking up the wrong tree.
Sadly one does not even have to search for the many attacks of these savage mutant undog’s on humans and pets, there are literally hundreds of new incidents every day carried out by these disgusting creatures, here is another.
These are all major daily newspapers and network TV station accurate factual reports with direct access to Doctors, ER’s Animal control officers, Police, the victims family, witnesses, the guilty pit nutters, all in news reports from major city newspapers and TV stations, as legit therefore as it possibly can be.
There is only one breed that has every been or is a threat to public safety and that is the pit bull, the sooner they are exterminated the sooner tragic attacks like the one below will be ended.
Ban the breed and end the deed.
using dogbite as a source!!! for what propaganda?? how about Jeff uses some reputable sources which have not been exposed to be nothing more then a pitbashing organization that uses Merrit Clifton junk research as scientific statitistics? what a joke!! Colleen freely admits BSL is about killing piutbulls, she also states clearly that she hoped by killing pitbulls the bite stats would fall but they havn’t it’s quite the contrary as the death toll surpasses previous numbers alrerady this year?? If Daxton’s friends truly cared about community safety Jeff wouldn’t be telling everyone they’re perfectly safe so long as there’s ne pitbulls around which couldn’t be further from the truth?? Grow a pair Sentinel and kick this moron Bogart to the street!1 he is directly through his actions adding to the death toill and the anquish of victims and citizens alike?? I am sorry if I havn’t fullfilled Jeff’s perception of a “pitnutter”” you see I don’t even own a pitbull and it’s the same with a lot of pitbull advocates!! we don’t receive money from the pit fighters as Jeff regularly claims we simply want to stop all deaths and not the pitbull related deaths and if Jeff was concerned with community safety as opposed to wanting revenge against a a breed/type of dog because of the 2 dogs that killed his son, a death that has raised a lot of questions about not only the dogs but the baby sitter too, any one who reads the whole story surrounding what happened to Dax would be asking questions many things don’t make sense but the only ones that really know what happenede that day are Dax and Sussan and Dax is dead and Sussan is lying clearly having changed her story several times much like Colleen talking about her attack, both of which are very suspicious??
Pit bull is not a breed of dog but a generic term inaccurately used to describe dogs and it varies from town to town, person to person and shelter to shelter what people consider a pit bull to be. The only dog that has pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. But boxer mixes, all sorts of dogs with some type of block head and hundreds of breeds mixed in these dogs get lumped into the term pit bull. Totally inaccurate and after 25 years of this stupidity, why are we still blaming mainly mixed breed dogs and calling them all pit bulls? The human is the cause for a dog to bite or kill and the majority of dogs that kill are mixed breed dogs each year, on average 30 to 33 out of 72 million mainly mixed breed dogs in this country who are a result of indiscriminate breeding of dogs.
Pitbull advocates are never deeply sorry about the victims. See them laughing, protesting truth, attempting to censor and disrespecting a memorial for victims of canine attacks in Grand Rapids Michigan recently because they did not want the breed of dog that killed acknowledged at the memorial. Could you imagine the NRA protesting a Sandy Hook memorial and demanding that it parents should not talk about what types of weapons killed their children. this is a huge first amendment issue. The G.R. Police Dept had a civic duty to insure that the memorial was not blocked by pitbull protestors.. The Klu Klux Klann is protected and those who want to save lives are blocked by wimpy newspapers and governments that fail to do their jobs. Shame on the Denver Post for attempting to bow down to political pressure and be a part of this horrid censorships. https://woodtv.com/2014/09/28/pit-bull-owners-protest-at-dog-attack-artprize-entry/
Don’t speak for me or any other person please. Mainly mixed breed dogs kill. So what’s your point? I want fatalities reduced but I know the mixed breed dog isn’t the problem.
Pit bull is not one breed of dog. It’s not an accurate term for any dog.
Just for you all that are not aware Thomarse Mcartny is a troll he goes from blog to blog using numerous fake profiles completely overwhelming blogs with his dogbite issued propaganda! despite numerous complaints he continues to pollute articles making it near impossible for normal folk to have their say and if you do get to comment he floods the page and pushes your comments off, he’s not expert he’s a troll, a colleen Lynn foot soldier, one of a dozen or so people including boof head bogart that use fake profiles and fear and revenge driven propaganda in order to try and kill all pitbulls and that’s a fact
The Pit Nutters exposed credo:
Media manipulation is their watchword, their attempts to give their mutants a make over can not hide the evil in their eyes nor the moral stench that exudes from their being, pit bulls are one of satan’s more natural creations, a set of horns and pitchfork would have been a far more appropriate visual reality presentation then the cute pitty poo farcical misrepresentations they present to the public.
when all else fails the old fall back position of ranting in coherently! lol!! your a wealth of material for my foamer pages thomarse!!
Colleen Lynn foot soldier, gee that is very flattering and quite a compliment, i like that a lot 🙂
A troll is someone who posts on an issue that they have no real opinion on just to get a rise out of other posters.
Clearly i have very strong passionate views on this issue and am the opposite of a troll, you have now been hereby educated.
My Bill is in the mail.!
you best be patting your self on the back because i reckon no-one else is going to?? your funny Thomarse!!
That’s over 4,000 pit bull type dogs put to death in US animal shelters today as well as killed in dog fighting as is the case EVERY day of the year 365 days a year.
Oh yes indeed and today the world is a better and safer place for it being so…..Sigh……….it is so gratifying as well to know these mutant undogs will no longer be farting rainbows, green house gas emissions don’t you know.
That is what your pit bull type dog advocacy is accomplishing, how does that make you feel?, to be the shill of dog fighters as you provide them with the means to their end.!
Oh! Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!
Remember, Mom said don’t play ball in the house.!!
Pork Chops and Apple saaaaaaaaauce.!!!
Cindy: You cheated.
Bobby: I did not. And besides: You didn’t see me.
Cindy: I did too!
Myth #1: It’s the owner not the T-rex
Myth # 2: It’s impossible to identify a T-rex
Myth #3: Human-aggressive T-rex’s were “culled”
Fatal attack statistics about T-rex’s are false
The media conspiracy against T-Rex’s
T-rex’s are not unpredictable
T-Rex’s do not have a locking jaw, they just eat you alive
T-Rex’s used to be the most popular dinosaur in America
T-rex’s pass the American Temperament Test
Punish the deed not the breed (of dinosaur)
T-rex’s originally were “nanny dinosaurs”
T-rex’s were once known as nanny dino’s.
T-Rex’s will lick you to death.
There’s no need to muzzle and leash your T-Rex in the Doggy Park.
Don’t forget to attend our ‘Million T-Rex March’ on The White House. President Obama loves T-Rex’s and he thinks everyone should own one. Except him.
Its not an attack if the T-rex is wagging its tail.
There no bad T-rex’s…only bad owners.
I’ve seen chihuahuas more aggressive than my T-Rex.
*giggles*
TSL has been proven not to work in Denver
Best babysitters ever….NOT
MY T-rex is the sweetest dino ever.
T.Rex’s make the BEST Therapy Dinos ever. And are wonderful as Guide-Dinos for The Blind.
velociraptors bite more than T-rex’s.
Let’s set up a T-rex kissing booth for our kids.
Let’s bring a T-rex into school and let the children read books to a perfectly trained T-rex
Let’s bring our T-rex to the walk for the victims of T-rex’s in Houston to show them they don’t have to be afraid of T-rex’s
wow Thomarse has broken out the old favorite the “trex” analogy!! pmsl!!! Thomarse thank you so much for proving our point!!! IF THE ADMINS DON’T REMOVE THIS POST AND STOP THIS MORON FROM FLOODING THIS DISCUSSION WITH HIS COLLEEN LYNN PROPAGANDA, I’LL PERSONALLY STATRT A CAMPAIGN INCLUDING PETITIONS ETC TO CAUSE THEM TO ACT!!!!! REMOVE THIS FOOL SO WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION??? WHO AGREES WITH ME??
Parents need to teach their brats proper kindness and respect around t-rex. ANY dinosaur has it’s breaking point when TERRIFIED!!
Good news, T – Rex went extinct and no longer prey on communities.
T-Rex’s are as safe as any other dinosaur. You guys are just racist.
more kids are injured falling down, so what are we going to ban falling down next?!!!
My T-Rex smiles at me every time I walk in the door. He even lets my two year old ride his tail. Was this T- Rex neutered??? This wouldn’t happen if he was. Do not spew your hate towards MY T-Rex! Responsible T-Rex ownership 101. WE ARE WINNING. OUR T-REX’S ARE WINNING. SUCK IT HATERS
My T-rex pulled a baby from a burning building. He is the best nanny t rex god ever made. He wouldnt hurt a fly.
My T – Rex is an ambassador for the breed. He passed his T – Rex Good Citizenship test performed by my best friend and passed with flying colors. I bring him to dog parks and he is a perfect angel. He even loves cats!
my t-rex is gorgeous and sweet but would defend me to the bitter end
It isn’t my T-Rex you need to worry about; it’s ME. They might have culled the man-biters out of HIS lizard-lineage, but they let them live in MY ancestors! Grrrrr!
sorry to have to report this but
my T-rex just killed my Dino dog, it had always been sweet and had never bit anyone before.
The -Rex will be going to the flintstone dinosaur rescue farm for unstable dinasaur’s
My t-rex is tattooed on my *#@!
omg did you vagazzle it too!?
My T Rex lets my 5 year old put press on nails on him.
My t rex only wants to love and kiss you all over . Lmbo
see you later i am off to see the T-rex fights tonight.
The owners need to wash the T-rex’s before the fight so that proves they are safe? right???
T Rex’s are not fighting dinosaurs!!!!!! Please educate yourself about the bread!
blame the deed not the bread
my great grandaddy JP Colby bred game T-rex in the 1920’s
all your fat over weight pigs have nothing on a real all american game bred T-rex.
Darn Dino mommys
Hey now…educate yourself guys.
My T-Rex likes coconuts!
you’re all just racist against T-Rex’s!!!
please leave t~Rex’s alone my family had bred them for years and the only time i was bitten was by a pibble.
educate yourself you hater,I hope get mauled by a chihuahua.
t-rex make the best nanny dinosaur, its all how they are raised don’t you know.
I will be posting this at the dinosaurs love kids and kids love dinosaurs.
don’t you know the famous dinosaur barney?
president roosevelt had a dinosaur and fred flintstone.
helen keller had 25 of them.
wiggle tails?
educate yourself its haters like you that give dinosaurs a bad name.
come over to my house and meet my t-rex
awww you really hurted my feelings, Im going to go eat worms!!
My brontosaurus bites and my T-Rex never does. In fact the T-Rex is scared of him!
T-rex only bite if they’re trained to
my vet says t-rex is the only dinosaur that doesn’t bite
I have 8 t-rex and I’m a vet tech
I’am a vet tech too and i have a therapy dinosaur, it reads to kids at schools
64 kids crawl all over my t-rex, and he’s never shown aggression
Get the FACTS!!!
there’s no such thing as a t-rex
people are so quick to label anything 20 ft tall with a 5 foot neck and muscular as a so called “t-rex”
all dinosaurs have teeth
Their are over 30 types of dinosaur mistaken for a T-Rex, not only that, their is a media conspiracy against them. T-Rex attack stories sell.
My T-Rex saved my life; he roared at a bit of smoke & we evacuated the house. Last week I read that a T-Rex killed a child; that is SO rubbish – there is no such thing as a T-Rex! Get educated! I’m so done with this – I’m going to feed my T… I mean my Giant Lizard. Goodbye!
t-rex aren’t real. nothing is real.
omg u ppl r so ignorent!!!!!!! i had a terradactle an that little basturd was way meaner than my t-rex!!!!!! only ppl who fight t-rexes make them mean an bite so dont judge the hole bread just cuz a few buttwipes train there dinos to attack i raise my t-rex with love an he kisses us all the time!!!!!! U PPL R RACIST AN U MAKE ME SICK!!!
t-rex built this great nation
ROTFLMAO!
You haters only have 153 likes. Our T-Rex breeders club has 4000! TAKE THAT, HATERS!!!
It’s a nannysaurus!
Pit bull is not one breed of dog. It’s not even anything except a label for millions of dogs that might have some type of block head. The only dog that has pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. All kinds of mixed breed dogs get called pit bulls. Again. Not a breed of dog but a generic term. Dogs get called pit bulls by sight. No accuracy. Just guessing. Each town, each shelter, each person has a different idea of what a pit bull is. That is why bans are ridiculous and maybe if it gets repeated for another 50 years, these facts might sink in. This has been going on for 25 years and some people still can’t get it. They are mainly mixed breed dogs that kill. Mixed breed, meaning many breeds in that dog that killed. Also meaning that the human is the key factor in reducing dog bites.
Save Mickey the gator!!!
An alligator named Mickey killed a pit bull in FL and now he is being unfairly hunted. Eyewitnesses said the pit bull tried taking Mickey’s bone. Where were the parents? This is not Mickey’s fault!
He was just doing what alligators do.
Blame the hater, not the gator!!!
I’m so tired of ignorant people saying bad things about certain reptiles based on the way they look.
I bet you don’t even own one, because if you did you would see they are the sweetest things. My gator protects my children and my pit bull!
I’ve had alligators for years! The children climb on them and the alligators slurp them lovingly.
One even lets my 2 year old brush it’s teeth!!
We found our newest baby gator at a “kiss the alligator” event.
There are so many misunderstud alligators out there – all they need is love, people!! Just last week, my oldest gator saved my grand kids from bees! You people are all haters, get yourselfs a REEL pet and stop spreading lies!!
A children’s book I’m working on – “Want Me to Wash Your Back?” Hoping to dispel some of the unfair gator myths.
Gators are a great source of fun in the bathtub.
Some go on to become service gators, helping the elderly and disabled to bathe when they cannot care for themselves.
It’s clearly reptileism, Poor Ripples
It’s all in how you raise them.
Cecil my Gator would just lick you to death.
My Cecil is a Certified Serpent Good Citizen.
All the man eating gators were culled.
Our other gator “Huggy” with our daughter Modeen.
He is a rescue gator. When the kids were small, they used Huggy as a trampoline.
He is so mellow, he never even flinched… he wouldn’t hurt anyone.
Once they accidentally set him on fire with a flame thrower. and he didn’t even bite them very much at all.
Huggy our gator on vacation with us in the grand canyon in 1996. He loves getting dressed up and having his nails painted to match his wardrobe.
We took him everywhere with us until he accidentally ate an usher at the movie theater. (It wasn’t his fault, he was startled by that MGM lion roaring at the beginning of the picture.)
This kind of thing ticks me off.
Very sad BUT the kid was obviously taunting the gator with bait on a stick before this happened. If the parents had taught this kid some manners, this might not have happened.
Daily Mirror: Crocodile eats 11-year-old boy alive as he fishes with his parents
Gator isn’t even a bread.
if your not a computer Thomarse answer me this?? do you ever have any thoughts that don’t originate in someone else’s mind??
Kitty Karry-All Is Missing
[Cindy’s doll has gone missing and she blames Bobby]
Greg: Come on, Bobby, you can tell us.
Bobby: What?
Peter: Where did you hide Cindy’s doll?
Bobby: I didn’t hide it, like I told Mom.
Peter: Honest?
Bobby: Honest.
Greg: Would you swear to it? The sacred oath?
Bobby: Even the sacred oath.
Peter: Boy, that proves he didn’t take it. No sir!
[In girls’ room]
Marcia: Are you sure Bobby took her?
Cindy: Sure I am, he said he hated Kitty!
Jan: I heard him say it lots of times.
Cindy: And she doesn’t even have her bottle, she’ll starve to death!
Marcia: Come on. (takes Cindy’s hand)
Cindy: Where are we going?
Marcia: We’re gonna get that doll back.
Jan: Yeah. (They leave for boys’ room)
[Back in boys’ room]
Peter: If Bobby didn’t take it, Cindy shouldn’t say he did.
Greg: Right. Come on, she can’t accuse him and get away with it. (They leave for girls’ room)
what the!! ?? mmmk?
Tom, do you think your weird and off topic references to a 70’s show further your cause and opinion?
we’re tired of your copy and paste tyraids so that makes us even?
Pit bull is not one breed of dog. It is not any breed of dog. It’s a label. Not an accurate term to describe any dog. It’s a term of endearment or a term used to instill fear or hate.
first he talking about dinosaurs and now mickey pls admins do something about this fool Thomarse Mcartny before he floods this blog with his copy and paste crap??
More then 70,000 attacks by pit bull type dogs last year against people, pets and livestock of which over 45,000 deaths in those attacks with the number likely double this year that Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.
With a human being usually am child killed every 7 days this year, what about those numbers do you NOT understand??????
Pit bull is a label for dogs. Not an accurate dog type.
The Myth:
“There’s no such breed as a pit bull.” “Pit bulls aren’t a breed; they are just a ‘type’ of dog.”
The Reality:
The term “pit bull” in lower-case letters refers to three closely-related breeds. The original breed was the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, a dog bred for pit fighting in the 18th and 19th centuries in the UK.
After importation to the U.S. in the late 19th century, they continued to be used for fighting, but were bred to be taller and heavier.
These larger cousins were then registered in the UKC as “American Pit Bull Terriers” (1898) and in the AKC as the “American Staffordshire Terrier” (1936). Note that these are identical breeds under two different names, and many individuals hold conformation championships in both registries.
In addition, some of the original, smaller dogs were reimported from the UK and were recognized in the AKC as the original “Staffordshire Bull Terriers” (1935).
A recent ASPCA study revealed that 93% of shelter workers were able to properly identify a “pit bull,” meaning one of the three closely-related (or identical) breeds above (click here to see the study).
The American Pit Bull Terrier is actually one of the purest and oldest of registered breeds. The second-largest national kennel club in the world, the UKC, was originally founded in 1898 for the express purposed of registering fighting pit bulls.
For approximately the first 50 years, a pit bull not only had to be purebred, but had to win 3 dog fights in order to be registered with the UKC. Today, these dogs’ descendants compete to win prizes in conformation, weight pull, and other sports.
Thousands have earned the title of UKC Conformation Champion.
Verdict: The three “pit bull” breeds, including the American Pit Bull Terrier, are just as purebred as St. Bernards, Schnauzers or Dalmatians
The only breed of dog with pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. Pit bull is not a term for any particular type dog but just a label or generic term used to group block headed dogs of various sizes into a lump and either blame them for everything or as a term of endearment depending on who is doing the labeling.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY A PIT BULL
The legal definition of a pit bull is a class of dogs that includes American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American bulldog and any other pure bred or mixed breed dog that is a combination of these dogs, dogsbite dot org says. Weight and shape can vary significantly among pit bulls from 35 to 100 or more pounds.
Dogsbite dot org also says scientific proof of a dog’s breed is not required to enforce breed-specific laws nor is it required to properly identify a dog breed. “Misidentification tricks and theatrics were constructed by pro-pit bull and animal welfare groups and endure today for one class of dogs only: pit bulls,” it says.
More than 700 communities nationwide have enacted pit bull ordinances and several have claimed on dogsbite dot org that their legislation has made their communities safer.
The Myth:
No one can correctly identify a pit bull. Fighting breed advocates claim that most people shown a collage of dog photos online can’t tell which one is the pit bull.
The Reality:
A recent ASPCA study in Virginia revealed that 93% of shelter workers were able to properly identify a “pit bull,” meaning one of the three closely-related (or identical) breeds above.
Many pit bull advocate groups post a collage of dog pictures online and ask the public to “identify the pit bull”.
What the public does not know is that the majority of dogs pictured are shot from camera angles deliberately designed to mislead. In addition, they show heads only, so size cannot be considered—this would not be the case when seeing the dog in real life.
They also feature many rare breeds that are related to pit bulls, but which are extremely uncommon in the United States (e.g., the Dogue de Bordeaux, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, and Ca de Bou).
And one of the dog breeds that is included is an American Staffordshire Terrier which is the exact same breed as the American Pit Bull Terrier, but registered with another organization.
It should also be noted that many humane societies offer discounts on spaying/neutering of pit bulls. If pit bulls are so difficult to identify, then how do shelter workers identify who qualifies for the discount?
There are also many pit bull rescues with the term “pit bull” in the organization name. How do these groups know which dogs to rescue?
Tell me the numbers of fatalities for these breeds over the last 30 years: American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American bulldog.
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IDENTIFY A PIT BULL
The legal definition of a pit bull is a class of dogs that includes American pit bull terrier, American Staffordshire terrier, Staffordshire bull terrier, American bulldog and any other pure bred or mixed breed dog that is a combination of these dogs, dogsbite dot org says. Weight and shape can vary significantly among pit bulls from 35 to 100 or more pounds.
Dogsbite dot org also says scientific proof of a dog’s breed is not required to enforce breed-specific laws nor is it required to properly identify a dog breed. “Misidentification tricks and theatrics were constructed by pro-pit bull and animal welfare groups and endure today for one class of dogs only: pit bulls,” it says.
More than 700 communities nationwide have enacted pit bull ordinances and several have claimed on dogsbite dot org that their legislation has made their communities safer.
The Myth:
No one can correctly identify a pit bull. Fighting breed advocates claim that most people shown a collage of dog photos online can’t tell which one is the pit bull.
The Reality:
A recent ASPCA study in Virginia revealed that 93% of shelter workers were able to properly identify a “pit bull,” meaning one of the three closely-related (or identical) breeds above.
Many pit bull advocate groups post a collage of dog pictures online and ask the public to “identify the pit bull”.
What the public does not know is that the majority of dogs pictured are shot from camera angles deliberately designed to mislead. In addition, they show heads only, so size cannot be considered—this would not be the case when seeing the dog in real life.
They also feature many rare breeds that are related to pit bulls, but which are extremely uncommon in the United States (e.g., the Dogue de Bordeaux, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, and Ca de Bou).
And one of the dog breeds that is included is an American Staffordshire Terrier which is the exact same breed as the American Pit Bull Terrier, but registered with another organization.
It should also be noted that many humane societies offer discounts on spaying/neutering of pit bulls. If pit bulls are so difficult to identify, then how do shelter workers identify who qualifies for the discount?
There are also many pit bull rescues with the term “pit bull” in the organization name. How do these groups know which dogs to rescue?
Please pick out a dog show to attend. Any dog show. They are held in every state, every weekend . They are all judged on a visual identification system.
Every dog show ever held has been judged on a visual identification system. Judges not only identify breeds but also minute deviations from breed standard. Watch the judges work.
Humans are capable of this and do it all the time. You can pick out a Poodle or a Pug, Irish Setter or Wolfhound, Corgi or Chihuahua but you have difficulty identifying a breed that you state is anywhere from 5% to 40% of the dogs in America?
The material that I have linked to is very clear that the ASPCA is telling us that their shelter volunteers can correctly identify pit bulls 96% of the time.
Here’s the point: The NCRC uses the DNA when it is convenient to do so. It knows full well that the test does not test for “pit bull” and will often pick it up as other breeds, but it does not tell its readers.
It then uses the mix of other breeds to declare the dogs not pit bulls. Then it uses this sham of an experiment as cited research in their fatality reports to prove they can’t identify pit bulls.
so admins aren’t going to do anything about your copying and pasting your crap thomarse well your not the only one that can copy and paste?
Pit bull isn’t a breed of any dog. It’s a label, used inaccurately to describe dogs. The only breed of dog with pit bull in its name is a purebred dog, called the American Pit Bull Terrier. The majority of dogs in the USA are mixed breed dogs of all shapes, sizes and breeds in them resulting from indiscriminate breeding of dogs.
J Am Vet Med Assoc. 2000 Sep 15;217(6):836-40.
Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998.
Sacks JJ1, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R.
Author information
Abstract
OBJECTIVE:
To summarize breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks during a 20-year period and to assess policy implications.
ANIMALS:
Dogs for which breed was reported involved in attacks on humans between 1979 and 1998 that resulted in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF).
PROCEDURE:
Data for human DBRF identified previously for the period of 1979 through 1996 were combined with human DBRF newly identified for 1997 and 1998. Human DBRF were identified by searching news accounts and by use of The Humane Society of the United States’ registry databank.
RESULTS:
During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half of these deaths. Of 227 reports with relevant data, 55 (24%) human deaths involved unrestrained dogs off their owners’ property, 133 (58%) involved unrestrained dogs on their owners’ property, 38 (17%) involved restrained dogs on their owners’ property, and 1 (< 1%) involved a restrained dog off its owner's property.
CONCLUSIONS:
Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficulties inherent in determining a dog's breed with certainty, enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises constitutional and practical issues. Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning dangerous dogs. Many practical alternatives to breed-specific ordinances exist and hold promise for prevention of dog bites.
PMID: 10997153 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]
Dog Breed Identification: What kind of dog is that?
“Mom always said I have my father’s ears.”
While many people like to know “What kind of dog is that?” just to satisfy their curiosity, dog breed designations have also been used in an attempt to predict future behavior, match pets to families, find lost dogs, and even to restrict the ownership of certain types of dogs.
Dogs come in all shapes and sizes, and frequently without pedigrees to describe their heritage. The breeds of dogs with unknown or mixed-breed lineages are frequently guessed based on their physical appearance, but it is not known how accurate these visual breed assessments are.
We conducted a national survey of dog experts to compare their best guesses for the breeds of dogs in a series of photographs. These visual assessments were compared to DNA breed profiles for the dogs.
More than 5,000 dog experts, including breeders, trainers, groomers, veterinarians, shelter staff, rescuers, and others completed the survey. You are invited to view pictures of the 100 dogs in our study, their actual DNA breed results, and what our survey responders guessed their breeds were.
See the results >>
This study is being conducted by Dr. Julie Levy with the assistance of Merial Veterinary Scholar Kathleen Croy and is made possible by a grant from the National Canine Research Council.
Tagged as: breed, canine, DNA, dog, dogs, research, survey
Richard Polsky, Ph.D. provides expert witness services to attorneys in the United States and Canada and news about dog bites and related animal behavior issues in the following geographical locations: Alabama, Alberta, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, British Columbia, California, Canada, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Ontario, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Quebec, Rhode Island, Saskatchewan, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Vermont, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia, Wisconsin, Wyoming.
Q: What is the trend in BSL? There is a growing awareness that BSL does not improve community safety and penalizes responsible dog owners and their family companions. Both the Netherlands and Italy have repealed their BSL in recent years. From January 2012-May 2013, three times as many American communities have either considered and rejected a breed- specific ordinance, or repealed an existing one, as have enacted BSL. Massachusetts, Nevada, Connecticut , Rhode Island, and South Dakota have recently enacted state laws that prohibit their towns and counties from regulating dogs on the basis of breed. Seventeen states now prohibit BSL. The Obama Administration has announced its opposition to BSL, stating that “research shows that bans on certain types of dogs are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources.”[10] – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.2jYRPnMe.dpuf
Family dogs were rarely involved
76.2% of the DBRFs in this study involved dogs that were not kept as family pets; rather they were only resident on the property. The distinction between a resident dog and a family dog[2] was first proposed years ago by NCRC Founder Karen Delise. Dogs are predisposed to form attachments with people, to become dependent on people, and to rely upon their guidance in unfamiliar situations. While it is extremely rare that dogs living as either resident dogs or as family pets ever inflict serious injuries on humans, dogs not afforded the opportunity for regular, positive interaction with people may be more likely, in situations they perceive as stressful or threatening, to behave in ways primarily to protect themselves.
Breed was not one of the factors identified
The authors report that the breed of the dog or dogs could not be reliably identified in more than 80% of cases. News accounts disagreed with each other and/or with animal control reports in a significant number of incidents, casting doubt on the reliability of breed attributions and more generally for using media reports as a primary source of data for scientific studies. In only 45 (18%) of the cases in this study could these researchers make a valid determination that the animal was a member of a distinct, recognized breed. Twenty different breeds, along with two known mixes, were identified in connection with those 45 incidents.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/dog-bite-related-fatalities/#sthash.Q7fANfbe.dpuf
Dog bite-related fatalities are extremely rare Dog bite-related human fatalities have always been exceedingly rare, though they can attract the kind of publicity that creates an impression that they are more prevalent than they actually are. The annual total of such fatalities has risen and fallen with no discernable trend, while the canine population in the U.S. has continued its steady increase. The chart below shows the number for some common and uncommon injury related fatalities for 2010 (2010 is the most recent year which CDC fatalities are available). (Sources for this graph)[3] – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/dog-bite-related-fatalities/#sthash.Q7fANfbe.dpuf
You’re an idiot. The National Research Council is A FOR PROFIT PIT BULL ADVOCATE/SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP. Like taking facts about smoking from Phillip Morris.
Does Breeding Impact a Dog’s Behavior?
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By Nicole Pajer
Over the years, domestic dogs have been bred to showcase certain appearances. Through this process of selective breeding, a variety of breeds —from the tiny Chihuahua to the towering Great Dane — have been created. According to a recent study, selective breeding of domestic dogs not only alters the way a dog physically looks, but also drives major internal changes in canine brain structure.
Scientists from the University of New South Wales and the University of Sydney conducted a one-of-a-kind study, which revealed that in the process of breeding domestic dogs, the position of the canine skull has shifted as well. This is a result of humans selectively breeding for different skull lengths to create various breeds.
To determine this, Michael Valenzuela from the University of New South Wales and a team of researchers performed MRI scans on the brains of two English springer spaniels, as well as eleven euthanized dogs, which were donated to the study by a local pound. The batch of donated dogs included a range of breeds, such as an Akita cross, mastiff cross, Staffordshire bull terrier, Shih Tzu cross, greyhound, Maltese, Jack Russell terrier, Australian cattle dog, and a pit bull mix.
The MRI brain scans revealed that the dogs with the shortest skulls — the Shih Tzu cross, pit bull mix, and Akita — showed a significant reorganization of the location of the brain through breeding. In these short-snouted breeds, the cerebral hemispheres of the brain were rotated forward by up to 15 degrees. In addition, the brain’s olfactory lobes, which work to process smell, had shifted position in these breeds, moving from the front to near the back of the skull. According to Valenzuela and his team, the brains of these short-snouted dogs do not sit inside the skull cavity in the same manner as the brains of longer nosed dogs, whose brains appear to be closer to those of the domestic dog’s early wolf ancestors.
Valenzuela says the study reveals “strong and independent correlations between the size and shape of a dog’s skull, brain rotation and the positioning of the olfactory lobe. As a dog’s head or skull shape becomes foreshortened — more pug-like — the brain rotates forward and the smell centre of the brain drifts further down to the lowest position in the skull.” The study’s co-author, University of Sydney associate professor Paul McGreevy, stated that the study’s findings strongly suggest that one dog’s world of smell may be very different than another’s, and that this change alone could affect how domesticated dogs perceive their environments. The authors noted that this might in fact alter a dog’s personality and behavior, and they encourage people to be responsible when selectively breeding dogs.
Valenzuela and McGreevy plan to conduct future research as to how exactly these changes in canine brain positioning affect a dog’s brain function and what the impact is on its behavior.
Read more: https://www.cesarsway.com/training/socialization/Does-Breeding-Impact-a-Dogs-Behavior#ixzz38utBT26Q
The CDC stopped trying to identify breeds in fatalities after 1998 because it was inaccurate in mixed breed dogs that killed of which the majority of fatalities each year are caused by mixed breed dogs.
Inaccuracy of Breed Labels Assigned to Dogs of Unknown Origin
Victoria Voith, PhD, DVM, DACVB, and colleagues from Western University of Health Sciences originally compared the breed identifications assigned by adoption agencies to dogs of unknown parentage with DNA breed analysis of the same dogs. They found low agreement between the two. Their findings, first published in 2009, are presented in the following two documents:
Two separate, additional studies conducted at the College of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Florida, further confirm the unreliability of visual breed identification used by dog adoption agencies, animal control (lost and found), and in regulation. Click below to read NCRC’s two whitepapers discussing the significance of the findings in each, and to view the poster associated with the first study.
Observers Don’t Agree on Breed Identifications
In a second paper published in 2013, Dr. Voith and her colleagues surveyed more than 900 people in dog-related professions and services and showed that respondents frequently disagreed with each other when making visual breed identifications of the same dog, and that their opinions may or may not have correlated with DNA breed analysis.More than 70% of the study participants reported that now or at one time, their breed descriptors were used in record keeping. The results of the survey call into question the validity of a variety of data that has been collected over the decades pertaining to breed identification of dogs.
Reliabiltiy of DNA Breed Identification
We take very seriously the reliability of the studies on which we report and understand that there are those who are skeptical of breed identification obtained through DNA analysis. And indeed, it is important to note that DNA identification is not 100% accurate when analyzing mixed-breed dogs, nor do the companies who conduct the analyses claim it to be so. At the time Dr. Victoria Voith conducted the first of these studies, the accuracy of the Mars Wisdom Panel® used in the studies was reported to be 84%, for identification of breed in F1 crosses (offspring of 2 different registered purebreds). Accuracy is currently reported to be 90%. The Mars Wisdom Panel®, is specifically intended for mixed-breed dogs. The test was developed by analyzing more than 19 million genetic markers taken from 13,000 dogs.
We can say with confidence, that this documented rate of accuracy for DNA analysis is much higher than that achieved by looking at the dog for at least 2 reasons:
•In Genetics and the Social Behavior of the Dog, a seminal work on dogs and the significance of documented pedigree, John Paul Scott and John L. Fuller showed that that even F1 crosses very rarely have much physical resemblance to either of their parents’ breeds.
Understanding how a dog’s appearance is determined by its DNA helps explain why the DNA test is better than a visual breed identification. Visual identification is based upon the observation of a handful of variable breed-associated physical traits, such as coat color, body size, skull shape and whether the ears or erect or floppy. These physical traits are found in many different breeds and are controlled by approximately 50 of the roughly 20,000 genes that create a dog. Sometimes, a breed may exhibit a certain physical trait because all the members in the breed have exactly the same version of the gene that encodes the trait.
If this trait is recessive (for example like the trait associated with long fur), only dogs with two of the same version of the gene will exhibit long fur. If one of these dogs is the ancestor of a mixed- breed dog, the mixed-breed dog may contain both the DNA for the recessive version of the trait (long fur) and the dominant version of the trait (short fur). However, the long-haired recessive appearance will not be observed because the dominant short-haired DNA would determine the visual appearance of coat length (making it short). Subsequently, the visual identification of breed would inaccurately specify short-haired breeds based upon the visual observation of short hair.
The DNA test would be able to detect the recessive version of the gene for the long hair along with the dominant version of DNA for the short-hair and the DNA test result would use that information to determine the breed. The DNA results might report both long-haired and short-haired breeds in the dog’s ancestry even though the dog only has short-hair. Coat length is not the only trait that can be “hidden” from visual observation due to dominant and recessive patterns of genetic inheritance in dogs.
Although the genetic test may not assess every gene or even each physical attribute of a dog, the regions of the genome that it uses to assess breed take into account much more information than visual observation. The DNA test is better than visual breed identification because it takes into account the pattern of genetic variation at many different regions across the dog genome to generate a “genetic snapshot” of a mixed-breed dog’s ancestry. The resulting genetic evidence for what breeds make up a mixed-breed dog may or may not agree with visual observations, but they do agree with what scientists have discovered from two decades of sequencing and studying genomes.
While breed identification by DNA analysis is more accurate than visual breed identification, it’s important to remember that neither identifies genetic markers influencing specific traits, or predicts behavior of any particular dog. Each dog is an individual, and its physical and behavioral traits will be the result of multiple factors.
Implications for Veterinarians and Other Dog Professionals
It is customary in our society to look at a dog and guess its breed or breed composition. In fact, our reporting on dogs (for example: in a veterinarian’s record-keeping, when licensed or when admitted to an animal care and control agency) will usually require these guesses. Statistical compilations of these guesses then make their way into official or academic reports that influence how we view – even how we may feel we ought to regulate – different “breeds” of dogs.
An article by two veterinarians and an attorney published in November 2012 in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) has considered the implications of these undisputed findings for veterinary practice, and recommends that veterinarians stop attempting to assign breed labels to mixed-breed dogs whose parentage they do not know. Click on the thumbnail for NCRC’s summary of the JAVMA paper
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NCRC has developed a series of posters that further illustrate the problem with visual breed identification. The photos on each poster (below) were obtained from the Mars Wisdom Panel® website, along with the DNA analysis of each dog pictured. Look at each picture, then compare your guess with the DNA analysis at the bottom.
German Shep. Visual ID Poster Visual ID poster Labrador Visual ID Poster – “Pit Bulls”
Breed labels assigned to dogs of unknown origin are usually inaccurate. We need a different and more effective way of identifying and thinking about the many dogs of unknown parentage in our midst.
Read and Learn.
Expand your understanding with these additional resources:
The Relevance of Breed in Selecting a Companion Dog, Janis Bradley
Video Interview with Janis Bradley
Breed Labeling Dogs of Unknown Origin, Amy Marder, V.M.D., CAAB and Bernice Clifford, CPDT
Breed Specific or Looks Specific, Kristopher Irizarry, Ph.D.
Video Interview with Dr. Kristopher Irizarry
Don’t Let Liability Hysteria Keep You From Sending Good Dogs Home, Bonnie Lutz, Esq.
Breeds and Behavior, by Janis Bradley, The Bark, April/May 2011.
Canadian study shows no difference in suitability as pets between “pit bull” dogs and other kinds of dogs, MacNeil et al
It’s Not Just Semantics, Words Do Matter, by Pamela J. Reid, Ph.D., CAAB.
Swedish Study found no link between modern breeds and their traditional work.
(You can view pictures of all 100 dogs in the study, their actual DNA breed results, and what survey respondents guessed their breeds were here: https://sheltermedicine.vetmed.ufl.edu/library/research-studies/current-studies/dog-breeds/dna-results/)
Given the findings of Scott and Fuller, Dr. Victoria Voith, and the earlier Maddie’s® Shelter Medicine Program survey, the results were unsurprising. The 5000+ responders were only correct – that is, named at least one of the breeds detected by DNA analysis – less than one-third of the time. And no profession did much better than any other. Every profession’s responses, in total, were correct less than a third of the time.
In addition, from the variety of guesses associated with almost all of the dogs, it is clear that these experts did not agree with each other when they looked at the same dog.
To date, we are not aware of any survey or controlled study that has returned a result different from that obtained by Dr. Voith and the two surveys conducted by the University of Florida’s College of Veterinary Medicine. Nor do we expect to. These results corroborate the work that Scott and Fuller published almost 50 years ago. They are in turn supported by the reports of geneticists that a remarkably small amount of genetic material exerts a remarkably large effect on the size, shape, etc. of a dog.[v]
These uncontroverted reports argue that it is long past time for dog experts to accept the inescapable limitations of visual breed identification of mixed breed dogs of unknown origin. One step in the right direction is a new report by two veterinarians and an attorney that has appeared in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association. These authors recommend that veterinarians will better serve their clients and their clients’ pets if they describe these mixed-breed dogs without assigning a breed, adopting a “single non-breed based term to describe all dogs of unknown parentage.”[vi]
This sound advice for veterinarians is also applicable to animal sheltering, animal control, and public policy. We have placed an entirely unwarranted confidence in shelter intake data, adoption policy and practices, dog bite studies, bite reports and news accounts that either presume to predict a dog’s future behavior based on breed, or to relate incidents to breed. Visual breed identification did not only become inaccurate as a result of the surveys mentioned above, or even when Scott and Fuller published Genetics and the Social Behavior of the Dog back in 1965. Rather, these findings call our attention to what has always been the case.
What Dr. Voith pointed out to the American Veterinary Medical Association in 2009 bears repeating:
“The discrepancy between breed identifications based on opinion and DNA analysis, as well as concerns about reliability of data collected based on media reports, draws into question the validity and enforcement of public and private policies pertaining to dog breeds.”[vii]
A study by Dr. Victoria Voith showed that 87.5%
of dogs that were identified by DNA were not labelled correctly by the adoption agency. Click here
to see a poster of ‘Comparison of Adoption Agency Breed Indentication and DNA Breed Identification of Dogs’ by Dr. Victoria Voith. This poster is a great visual tool to gain insight into how there is little correlation between a shelter staff breed mix guess, regardless of experience, and the DNA the DNA analysis.
Many people have preconceived ideas about what breed of dog would suit them and their lifestyle. This can stem from family experience, media, marketing and myths. In this link, Janis Bradley discusses the relevance of breed when a person is searching to purchase a pet. There needs to be a shift in how we as a community, and how shelter protocols continue to create unrealistic expectations of how a dog ‘should’ behave based on a breed label.
If breed labelling is inaccurate, why do we do it?
Many Australian shelters and pounds advertise a dog by its breed. This advertising has a high probability of being inaccurate and can lead to a false misrepresentaion. But, it can also decrease the chances of the dog being adopted. For example, not everyone is looking for a Terrier mix, but many people may be looking for a small, friendly and loyal dog. So what is being suggested by the experts? Do not guess a breed. Advertise the dog for its qualities and merits to optimise its chances of finding a home and finding its perfect match. Improved human-canine matches also decrease the likelihood of the dog being resurrendered to the shelter. Inaccurate breed guessing can also have fatal consequences for dogs that visually appear similar to the dogs that are included in breed specific legislation. The National Canine Research Council state that dog breed identification is no basis for shelter policy and Animal Farm Foundation encourage shelters to assist potential adopters to view each animal as an individual, regardless of current software requirements. Please click on the poster to download your free copy.
What is Breed Specific Legislation?
The National Canine Research Council defines breed specific legislations (BSL) as:
“Breed-specific legislation is a law or ordinance passed by a legislative body pertaining to a specific breed(s) of dog, and/or to any dogs that appear they may be mixes of those breeds. The most drastic form of BSL is a complete ban; but BSL also includes any laws or governmental regulations that impose other requirements or limitations on specific breeds or mixes: mandatory spay-neuter, mandatory muzzling, special liability insurance requirements, special licensing, property posting requirements, enclosure requirements, breed-specific pet limit laws, sale or transfer notification requirements, and prohibitions in government and military housing. BSL, in all of its forms, results in the destruction of many pet dogs.”
The Australian Government, Department of Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry has banned the importation of the Japanese Tosas, Dogo Argentino, Fila Brasileiro and the Perro de Presa Canario or Presa Canario and Pit Bull Terrier or American Pit Bull.
Click here to view the state by state legislation
Click here to view the changes in Victorian legislation
In Australia in 1927, there was an import ban on the German Shepherd which lasted up to 1974. It was based around the ideology that this particular breed was a sheep killer. The assumption was that if the German Shepherd mated with the Dingo, it would produce a ‘super sheep killer’. It was not scientific based, just like breed specific legislation. While Australia was banning the importation of the German Shepherd, in 1928 this same dog breed became the world first civilian seeing-eye dog in the United States. His name was Buddy, and a statue of this dog can be found out the front of The Seeing Eye Dog headquarters in Morristown, New Jersey.
Click here to see Buddy
The Australian Veterinary Association (AVA) does not support breed-specific legislation for dog bite prevention, because experience in other countries has shown that such legislation has failed to reduce the frequency of dog bites. Since there is NO registered breed called the Pit Bull, there is no DNA test to identify a dog as a Pit Bull or Pit Bull cross. The breed that the media and legislation refer to as the Pit Bull is the American Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Bull Terrier, American Bulldog and English Bulldog.
A blanket ban for the ‘Pit Bull’ is based on the assumption that all ‘Pit Bulls’ are aggressive. Many Australians assume that when they purchase a Labrador Retriever it will be just as obedient as the Guide Dog. It is the intense training that produces the end product in both the fighting dog and the Guide Dog, not the breed. The media and some Shelter Directors continue to release misinformed and uneducated opinions that have caused myths, opinions and has influenced politicians into passing legislation that kills innocent dogs and does not make the community safer.
Karen Delise, Founder and Director of Research at the National Canine Research Council is the author of The Pit Bull Placebo. It has taken more than twenty years of reserach to create an accurate report on the media, myths and politics of canine aggression. It includes a history on breed demonisation, common myths of the Pit Bull like the lock jaw, canine aggression and the real reason for dog attacks. This book is highly recommended to all people that seek answers to understanding dog bite prevention. Please click on the link to download your free copy.
Brad Griggs, Director of Canine Services International specialising in canine aggression and lecturer at the National Dog Trainers Federation in Melbourne Australia, says that “In my professional experience, breed consistently proves to be a poor predictor of aggression”. He also adds that “While the animal management community is forced by poor legislation to enforce laws that focus on breed instead of individual temperament, the public is lulled into a false sense of security that dog bite prevention starts and ends with a handful of breeds.”
In 2003, Italy revoked BSL and replaced it with legislation that made the owner accountable and in 2009, Italy scrapped the dangerous list of 17 breeds altogether and has since reduced the number of dog attacks dramatically. Click here to read about Italy
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Incorrect Breed Identification Costs Dogs Their Lives
February 2012
Is that “pit bull” on your shelter’s adoption floor really a pit bull? The results of a recent four-shelter study suggest chances are good that he’s not.
Four Florida shelters – Jacksonville Animal Care and Protective Services, the Jacksonville Humane Society, Marion County Animal Services, and Tallahassee Animal Services – participated in the study. Four staff members at each of the four shelters indicated what breed(s) they thought 30 dogs were, for a total of 16 observers and 120 dogs.
Of those 120 dogs, 55 were identified as “pit bulls” by shelter staff, but only 25 were identified as pit bulls by DNA analysis.
Additionally, the staff missed identifying 20% of the dogs who were pit bulls by DNA analysis, while only 8% of the “true” pit bulls were identified by all staff members.
These poor track records for correctly identifying breed is particularly important, say study authors, because in many municipalities, dogs identified as “pit bulls” are not offered for adoption or are subject to local breed bans preventing their adoption or ownership.
Even in areas without restrictive ordinances or shelter policies, pit bulls are usually stigmatized as undesirable. Labeling a dog a “pit bull” can result in difficulty finding him a home or even his death.
The study report was authored by Kimberly R. Olson, BS and Julie K. Levy, DVM, PhD, DACVIM, of the Maddie’s® Shelter Medicine Program, University of Florida and Bo Norby, CMV, MPVM, PhD, of the Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences, Michigan State University.
Among the authors’ conclusions were:
Because the observers’ identifications were so inconsistent, visual identification of breed is unreliable.
The safety of individual dogs is best evaluated by looking at the individual dog’s attributes, including personality, behavior, and history, not breed.
What’s Wrong with Breed-Specific Laws?
BSL carries a host of negative and wholly unintended consequences:
Dogs go into hiding
Rather than give up their beloved pets, owners of highly regulated or banned breeds often attempt to avoid detection of their “outlaw” dogs by restricting outdoor exercise and socialization and forgoing licensing, microchipping and proper veterinary care, including spay/neuter surgery and essential vaccinations. Such actions have implications both for public safety and the health of these dogs.
Good owners and dogs are punished
BSL also causes hardship to responsible owners of entirely friendly, properly supervised and well-socialized dogs who happen to fall within the regulated breed. Although these dog owners have done nothing to endanger the public, they are required to comply with local breed bans and regulations unless they are able to mount successful (and often costly) legal challenges.
They impart a false sense of security
Breed-specific laws have a tendency to compromise rather than enhance public safety. When limited animal control resources are used to regulate or ban a certain breed of dog, without regard to behavior, the focus is shifted away from routine, effective enforcement of laws that have the best chance of making our communities safer: dog license laws, leash laws, animal fighting laws, anti-tethering laws, laws facilitating spaying and neutering and laws that require all owners to control their dogs, regardless of breed.
– See more at: https://antibsl.com/bsl-facts#sthash.P7ENBy7I.dpuf
WHAT DOES HAPPEN UNDER BREED-SPECIFIC LEGISLATION?
Innocent people continue to be threatened, bitten, traumatized, disfigured, and killed—by non-targeted breeds and types of dogs.
Innocent dogs are killed because they look a certain way.
Millions of dollars are wasted and animal control resources stretched thin in order to kill dogs and not save people.
Abusive and irresponsible owners carry on with “business as usual.”
Good owners and their families are outcasts (if they keep their targeted dog) or devastated (if they give up their targeted dog).
Reason, science, and expertise gets ignored or, even worse, scoffed at.
Nobody learns anything about the real reasons why dogs bite and attack, safety around dogs, or responsible dog ownership.
Breed-specific legislation makes victims of us all.
“the U.S. had a grand total of 15 dog attack fatalities:
9 by pit bulls, 2 by Dobermans, four by unidentified
mutts.” ,, you see this is were i have the problem, you see BSL targets pitbulls and assuming this statements right then, that means even if BSL works a charm what about the 6 deaths involving non pitbulls?? doesn’t anyone care about them? just because it wasn’t a pitbull that killed them they’re still dead, So these 6 dead mean nothing and it’s perfectly acceptable for there to be deaths by dog attacks so long as they’re not pitbulls?? this is the massive big hole in the logic of BSL it only protects and or prevents victims of pitbulls not any other breed it’s as if they’re saying there’s an acceptable level of deaths by dog? Any law for it to work has to breed neutral as that’s the only way to stop all the deaths BSL on;y effectively is meant to stop pitbull bites??
Nice. Now only if it would sink in. These facts below about the inaccuracies of breed identification in dogs have been put out there over and over and over and over again. Maybe it will sink in this time. The only dog that has pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. Pit bull is not a term to use to describe a dog type. Block headed dog, mixed breed dog but not pit bull. Either its a purebred American Pit Bull Terrier or its a mixed breed dog or a purebred German Shepherd, etc. Pit bull is not an accurate term for any dog type.
What Is The Solution?
There are several dangerous dog laws out there that are geared towards owners and individual dogs with no mention of any breed. Owners need to be held responsible for their dog?s behavior – if an owner cannot properly train or socialize a dog, let alone an APBT, then that person should not have a dog. It is high time that dogs stopped being killed after biting another dog or a person, it is not hard to reform a biter and why should the dog have to suffer for the idiocy of their owner. Unless the dog has an irreversible medical condition causing the aggression, every and all biting dogs should be given a second chance. Humans need to step back and realize that dogs do not go out and seek little children to gnaw on, there is no feeling of malice being expressed by these dogs – in fact, MOST bites occur because of miscommunication between humans and dogs, why should the dogs be killed and not the people? If both made a mistake, both need to learn what is proper and appropriate and a dog is more than capable of being taught discrimination (say between a squeaky toy and a screaming child) and proper behaviors.
Stop calling dogs pit bulls.
The term “numbers needed to ban” (NNB) is coined to describe this statistical parameter. In the paper, the authors calculate several outcome scenarios based on statistics available from data published in the dog bite literature, such as emergency department visits due to dog bite injury, reconstructive surgery following a dog bite, and frequency of hospitalizations because of a dog bite injury. For all calculations result showed that the numbers needed to ban, based on a particular set of assumptions, were extremely high, therefore, indicating impracticality and implausibility of BSL.
In this writer’s opinion, the argument presented in this paper, using this kind of statistical analysis, is compelling. Nevertheless, the impact the science reported in this paper might have on an emotive real-world problem like dog bite frequency is dubious because of what the authors identify as a “perceptual gap” – that is, the gap between (a) what scientifically is correct and (b) what people believe due to their own biases and belief structures.
The authors believe this gap exists in part because of the widespread fear people have of certain types of dogs, created largely through the dissemination of misinformation about dogs and through highly publicized events in which people are severely attacked or killed by a dog. People feel the need to immediately control the problem, hence the knee-jerk reaction favoring the implementation of BSL. The authors conclude that BSL is based largely on fear, and that animal care professionals need to enlighten the public and policy makers about the widespread faulty beliefs that exist concerning the behavioral nature of certain breeds, and about the lack of effectiveness of breed-specific legislation in curtailing the dog bite problem. Expert Breed Specific Legislation
Stop calling dogs pit bulls please.
“Breed-specific” legislation (BSL) is, essentially, canine bigotry. More specifically, the term refers to regional laws that ban or regulate certain breeds of dog in the hopes of reducing attacks on humans.
Not only is BSL unjust, it just doesn’t work. Anywhere. And the stats prove it.
Because of this, many cities (and states and countries) have repealed their antiquated BSL laws over the years, but far too many cities and municipalities (including Denver and Miami) have them intact.
Legalized discrimination, much? These laws are based on nothing more than misconceptions, misinformation and fear.
So, here are ten facts about BSL, and what you can do to take action:
1. BSL Kills.
Because of these BSL (and widespread misinformation), pit bulls have almost no chance of survival in public shelters. In many regions, they’re killed immediately upon shelter admission, with no opportunity to find a new home. Their euthanasia rate, overall, hovers around a staggering 93 percent.
2. Dog Bite Fatalities are Extremely Rare.
Between 1999 and 2006, an average of 27 Americans died each year as a result of a dog attack, according to a Journal of the American Medical Association report. Meanwhile, estimates suggest an average of 40 to 50 Americans die each year from lightning strikes.
3. There’s No Evidence That Banning Breeds has Any Impact on Dog Bites.
Period.
Call them a purebred dog and its name if its a purebred dog. If its a mixed breed dog don’t guess. Call it a mixed breed dog and we will save these dogs a lot of heartache.
Stop calling dogs pit bulls. It is not an accurate term for any dog type.
. Fatal dog attacks are always media sensations and heavily reported. Yet we can only trust that 60% of the reports of breed identification from the media and involved animal control officials are accurate. And unfortunately, it is media reports rather than facts that spur the political decisions that lead to breed specific legislation. Based on this study, 20 breeds and 2 mixed breeds should face legislation rather than the few that are presently targeted.
The ugly truth about this study is that it points to human behavior as the cause of dog attacks on humans. Social responsibility cannot be legislated. Many of these dog owners had histories of animal mismanagement, yet the penalties or consequences were inadequate to change the behavior. It would have been interesting if the study had also looked at previous behaviors and histories of the parents of the young victims.
Whether programs for responsible pet ownership, bite prevention education, or dog related parent supervision education are widely effective has yet to be proven. Certainly breed specific legislation is not the answer. A recent Canadian study showed that there were no significant differences in the number of bite related hospital visits before and after communities adopted breed specific legislation.
Dr. Ken Tudor
Image: ado6 / Shutterstock
Fatal dog attacks in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article contains an incomplete list(s), which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding the list(s) with reliably sourced entries.
Fatal dog attack scenarios include escaped guard dogs and children wandering into their territory.
Fatal dog attacks in the United States are a small percentage of the relatively common occurrences of dog bites. While at least 4.5 – 4.7 million Americans (2%) are bitten by dogs every year, only about 0.0002% of these (less than 0.00001% of the U.S. population) result in death, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which published a special report on the subject in 2000.[1]
The second part of this article consists of an annotated list of individual U.S. dog-attack fatalities. The list is not meant to be exhaustive nor conclusive. It relies mostly on news reports as references, but at points it runs concurrent with studies reviewed in the first part and may include information from the studies at those points. Care has been and should continue to be taken that this information is verifiable in the sources and that any contradictions or other indications that the information might not be valid are addressed reasonably. Nevertheless, the reader should bear in mind that data from news investigations is generally less reliable than information from published scholarly studies, and that where specific breeds listed, they are rarely based on conclusive proof of ancestry.
The tables that follow the list summarize the data from the list by age group of victim(s), and by category of dog(s) involved. In addition to the main list, it is also important to ensure the continued accuracy of these two tables.
Stop calling dogs pit bulls. It’s not an accurate description for dog type. American Pit Bull Terrier is only if its a purebred American Pit Bull Terrier. There is no such thing as a pit bull dog type. Block headed dog of various head sizes and body sizes, yes. But not pit bull.
Understanding how a dog’s appearance is determined by its DNA helps explain why the DNA test is better than a visual breed identification. Visual identification is based upon the observation of a handful of variable breed-associated physical traits, such as coat color, body size, skull shape and whether the ears or erect or floppy. These physical traits are found in many different breeds and are controlled by approximately 50 of the roughly 20,000 genes that create a dog. Sometimes, a breed may exhibit a certain physical trait because all the members in the breed have exactly the same version of the gene that encodes the trait.
If this trait is recessive (for example like the trait associated with long fur), only dogs with two of the same version of the gene will exhibit long fur. If one of these dogs is the ancestor of a mixed- breed dog, the mixed-breed dog may contain both the DNA for the recessive version of the trait (long fur) and the dominant version of the trait (short fur). However, the long-haired recessive appearance will not be observed because the dominant short-haired DNA would determine the visual appearance of coat length (making it short). Subsequently, the visual identification of breed would inaccurately specify short-haired breeds based upon the visual observation of short hair.
The DNA test would be able to detect the recessive version of the gene for the long hair along with the dominant version of DNA for the short-hair and the DNA test result would use that information to determine the breed. The DNA results might report both long-haired and short-haired breeds in the dog’s ancestry even though the dog only has short-hair. Coat length is not the only trait that can be “hidden” from visual observation due to dominant and recessive patterns of genetic inheritance in dogs.
Although the genetic test may not assess every gene or even each physical attribute of a dog, the regions of the genome that it uses to assess breed take into account much more information than visual observation. The DNA test is better than visual breed identification because it takes into account the pattern of genetic variation at many different regions across the dog genome to generate a “genetic snapshot” of a mixed-breed dog’s ancestry. The resulting genetic evidence for what breeds make up a mixed-breed dog may or may not agree with visual observations, but they do agree with what scientists have discovered from two decades of sequencing and studying genomes.
While breed identification by DNA analysis is more accurate than visual breed identification, it’s important to remember that neither identifies genetic markers influencing specific traits, or predicts behavior of any particular dog. Each dog is an individual, and its physical and behavioral traits will be the result of multiple factors.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/breed-identification-1/#sthash.ABBc3tKN.dpuf
Remove the name pit bull from the language and these dogs will have a better future. The media loves the term pit bull for good and bad. Stop using it so much to describe a dog. It’s not accurate.
Inaccuracy of Breed Labels Assigned to Dogs of Unknown Origin
Victoria Voith, PhD, DVM, DACVB, and colleagues from Western University of Health Sciences originally compared the breed identifications assigned by adoption agencies to dogs of unknown parentage with DNA breed analysis of the same dogs. They found low agreement between the two. Their findings, first published in 2009, are presented in the following two documents:
Two separate, additional studies conducted at the College of Veterinary Medicine at the University of Florida, further confirm the unreliability of visual breed identification used by dog adoption agencies, animal control (lost and found), and in regulation. Click below to read NCRC’s two whitepapers discussing the significance of the findings in each, and to view the poster associated with the first study.
Observers Don’t Agree on Breed Identifications
In a second paper published in 2013, Dr. Voith and her colleagues surveyed more than 900 people in dog-related professions and services and showed that respondents frequently disagreed with each other when making visual breed identifications of the same dog, and that their opinions may or may not have correlated with DNA breed analysis.More than 70% of the study participants reported that now or at one time, their breed descriptors were used in record keeping. The results of the survey call into question the validity of a variety of data that has been collected over the decades pertaining to breed identification of dogs.
Reliabiltiy of DNA Breed Identification
We take very seriously the reliability of the studies on which we report and understand that there are those who are skeptical of breed identification obtained through DNA analysis. And indeed, it is important to note that DNA identification is not 100% accurate when analyzing mixed-breed dogs, nor do the companies who conduct the analyses claim it to be so. At the time Dr. Victoria Voith conducted the first of these studies, the accuracy of the Mars Wisdom Panel® used in the studies was reported to be 84%, for identification of breed in F1 crosses (offspring of 2 different registered purebreds). Accuracy is currently reported to be 90%. The Mars Wisdom Panel®, is specifically intended for mixed-breed dogs. The test was developed by analyzing more than 19 million genetic markers taken from 13,000 dogs.
We can say with confidence, that this documented rate of accuracy for DNA analysis is much higher than that achieved by looking at the dog for at least 2 reasons:
•In Genetics and the Social Behavior of the Dog, a seminal work on dogs and the significance of documented pedigree, John Paul Scott and John L. Fuller showed that that even F1 crosses very rarely have much physical resemblance to either of their parents’ breeds.
Understanding how a dog’s appearance is determined by its DNA helps explain why the DNA test is better than a visual breed identification. Visual identification is based upon the observation of a handful of variable breed-associated physical traits, such as coat color, body size, skull shape and whether the ears or erect or floppy. These physical traits are found in many different breeds and are controlled by approximately 50 of the roughly 20,000 genes that create a dog. Sometimes, a breed may exhibit a certain physical trait because all the members in the breed have exactly the same version of the gene that encodes the trait.
If this trait is recessive (for example like the trait associated with long fur), only dogs with two of the same version of the gene will exhibit long fur. If one of these dogs is the ancestor of a mixed- breed dog, the mixed-breed dog may contain both the DNA for the recessive version of the trait (long fur) and the dominant version of the trait (short fur). However, the long-haired recessive appearance will not be observed because the dominant short-haired DNA would determine the visual appearance of coat length (making it short). Subsequently, the visual identification of breed would inaccurately specify short-haired breeds based upon the visual observation of short hair.
The DNA test would be able to detect the recessive version of the gene for the long hair along with the dominant version of DNA for the short-hair and the DNA test result would use that information to determine the breed. The DNA results might report both long-haired and short-haired breeds in the dog’s ancestry even though the dog only has short-hair. Coat length is not the only trait that can be “hidden” from visual observation due to dominant and recessive patterns of genetic inheritance in dogs.
Although the genetic test may not assess every gene or even each physical attribute of a dog, the regions of the genome that it uses to assess breed take into account much more information than visual observation. The DNA test is better than visual breed identification because it takes into account the pattern of genetic variation at many different regions across the dog genome to generate a “genetic snapshot” of a mixed-breed dog’s ancestry. The resulting genetic evidence for what breeds make up a mixed-breed dog may or may not agree with visual observations, but they do agree with what scientists have discovered from two decades of sequencing and studying genomes.
While breed identification by DNA analysis is more accurate than visual breed identification, it’s important to remember that neither identifies genetic markers influencing specific traits, or predicts behavior of any particular dog. Each dog is an individual, and its physical and behavioral traits will be the result of multiple factors.
At least Thomas McCartney has met his or her match whoever that person is. Stop using pit bull as a term to describe a dog. The only dog with pit bull in its name is the American Pit Bull Terrier, a purebred dog. Call a mixed breed dog a mixed breed dog with a block head or a pointy snout or something other than pit bull or pit mix because it’s all inaccurate.
I was asked by a certain Pit protectionists (posted below, quite some way down; possessing a surname indicating the son of God) to prove that the dogs that killed those listed as being killed by Pit Bulls so far in America for 2014, were indeed Pit Bulls.
He had compiled his own short list, which he said showed that NO Pit Bulls had killed anyone. What he had done, in fact, was omitted the word ‘American’ from the title ‘American Pit Bull Terrier’.
Perhaps he would like to ask Braelyn’s mother, or John Harvard’s mother, or Mia’s mother, or perhaps Joel’s mother, if the dog(s) that killed their children were Spanish Pit Bull Terriers, or Indonesian Pit Bulls, or perhaps Outer Mongolian Pit Bulls, or possibly even Martian Pit Bulls. No, I don’t think he will ask those questions of those grieving mothers.
I think he will KNOW at the core of himself, that he made a vile accusation, and that he did the Pit Bull Advocacy of America NO favours whatsoever.
When someone dies in the jaws of a dog, we do not claim that something ‘other’ than that dog killed them. Not unless we are without humanity.
1. Christina Burleston~43 y/o~Houston TX~2+ Pit Bulls~01/05/14
https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Dogs-who-killed-homeless-woman-will-be-euthanized-5119426.php
https://www.khou.com/story/news/local/2014/07/24/12306484/
2. Betty Clark~75 y/o~San Antonio TX~2 x Pit Bulls~01/06/14
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Doctors-warn-of-public-health-problem-of-dog-5399554.php
https://dangerousdognews.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/2-arrested-in-fatal-dog-attack-of-betty-clark/
3. Kara Hartrich~4 y/o~Bloomington IL~2 or 3 Pit Bulls~01/17/14**
https://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/happy-little-girl-kara-hartrich-4-killed-family-pit-bulls
https://www.cinewsnow.com/home/Mother-speaks-out-after-daughters-deadly-dog-attack–258202511.html
4. Annabell Martin~89 y/o~Corona CA~2 x Rottweilers~01/26/14**
https://www.pe.com/articles/-742621–.html
5. Klonda Richey~57 y/o~Dayton OH~2 x Cane Corso/Mastiffs~02/07/14
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2555000/Cat-loving-woman-57-naked-mauled-death-neighbors-dogs.html
https://guardianlv.com/2014/02/ohio-woman-klonda-richey-mauled-to-death-by-dogs-lifelong-animal-lover/
6. Je’vaeh Mayes~2 y/o~Temple TX~1 Pit Bull~02/17/14
https://www.tdtnews.com/topic/?q=je%E2%80%99vaeh+mayes&l=25&sd=asc&app%5B0%5D=editorial&o=0
https://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/Local-Family-Mourns-After-Toddler-Killed-In-Dog-Attack-246222321.html
7. Braelynn Coulter~3 y/o~High Park NC~1 Pit Bull~02/24/14**
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/27/braelynn-rayne-coulter-pit-bull_n_4867127.html
https://www.news-record.com/news/local_news/article_5e9c686a-9dd2-11e3-8efe-0017a43b2370.html
8. Summer Sears~4 y/o~Tallassee AL~Mixed Breeds (tbc)~02/26/14
https://www.waka.com/home/top-stories/Tallassee-Child-Killed-In-Dog-Attack-Name-Identified-247664291.html
9. Raymane Robinson~2 y/o~Killeen TX~1 x Bull Mastiff~03/01/14
https://kdhnews.com/opinion/editorials/fatal-dog-attack-leaves-community-seeking-answers/article_43bf27a8-a746-11e3-bb6d-001a4bcf6878.html
10. Kenneth Santillan~13 y/o~Patterson NJ~1 x Bull Mastiff~03/01/14
https://www.northjersey.com/story-archives/dog-owner-in-fatal-paterson-attack-rebuffs-police-inquiries-on-attorney-s-advice-1.733647
11. Nancy Newberry~77 y/o~Phoenix AZ~1 x Pit Bull~03/15/14**
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2014/03/15/phoenix-pit-bull-mauling/6464157/
https://www.azfamily.com/news/Woman-dies-after-pit-bull-attack-at-Phoenix-home-250477461.html
12. Mia Derouen~4 y/o~Houma LA~1 x Pit Bull~03/26/14**
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2596316/Parents-refusing-talk-investigators-four-year-old-girl-mauled-death-130lb-pit-bull-belonging-mothers-boyfriend.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/family-pit-bull-kills-4-year-old-girl-article-1.1735814
13. Dorothy Hamilton~85 y/o~Kaufman TX~2 x Pit Bulls 03/31/14**
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/85-year-old-woman-mauled-son-pit-bulls-cops-article-1.1743550
https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2014/04/01/police-say-pit-bulls-killed-kaufman-woman/
14. Christopher Malone~3 y/o~Holmes Co MS~1 or 2 Pit Bulls~04/01/14**
https://www.msnewsnow.com/story/25123147/pit-bull-kills-3-year-old
https://www.wapt.com/news/2yearold-killed-in-pit-bull-attack/25257766
15. John Harvard~5 y/o~St Clair Co AL~1 x Pit Bull~04/07/14
https://www.abc3340.com/story/25176424/st-clair-county-child-killed-in-dog-attack
https://www.alabamas13.com/story/25205087/dog-euthanized-in-riverside-pitbull-attack-that-killed-5-year-old
16. Petra Aguirre~83 y/o~San Antonio TX~1 x AmStaff Mix~04/11/14
https://www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/article/Woman-83-mauled-to-death-by-neighbor-s-dog-5402519.php
https://www.expressnews.com/news/local/article/Woman-83-killed-by-neighbor-s-dog-5402479.php
17. Katie Morrison~20 y/o~Lee Co AL~3 x Pit Bulls~05/04/14
https://www.wrbl.com/story/25424243/smiths-station-woman-dies-after-pit-bull-attack
https://www.wtvm.com/story/25424023/update-a-phenix-city-woman-dies-from-dog-attack
18. Nyhiem Wilfong~1 y/o~Caldwell Co NC~1 x Rottweiler~05/05/14**
https://www.wsoctv.com/news/news/local/report-1-year-old-boy-dies-after-rottweiler-attack/nfpbt/
19. Kasii Haith~4 y/o~Kent Co DE~3 x Pit Bulls~05/08/14
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/08/4-year-old-killed-in-pit-bull-attack/8879683/
https://blacklikemoi.com/2014/05/mother-toddler-viciously-attacked-pit-bulls-toddler-dies/
20. Rita Pepe~93 y/o~Branford CT~1 x Pit Bull~05/25/14
https://wtnh.com/2014/04/14/93-yr-old-woman-mauled-pit-bull-branford/
https://patch.com/massachusetts/waltham/grandmother-dies-from-injuries-sustained-in-horrific-pit-bull-attack
21. Holden Garrison~10wks~Springfield T’ship MI~Catahoula (possibly Bulldog type)~06/08/14**
https://patch.com/michigan/farmington-mi/funeral-friday-for-infant-fatally-mauled-by-dog#.VEII95UtDIU
22. Logan Shepard~4 y/o~Riverview FL~2 x Pit Bulls~07/19/14**
https://tbo.com/news/crime/no-charges-in-death-of-riverview-boy-after-pit-bull-attack-20140729/
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/22/pit-bulls-maul-boy/12990665/
23. Jonathon Quarles Jr~7months~Dayton OH~1 x Pit Bull~07/20/14
https://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/07/21/police-grandmothers-pit-bull-kills-7-month-old-boy/
https://fox59.com/2014/07/21/infant-from-indianapolis-killed-by-dog-in-ohio/
24. Craig Sytsma~46 y/o~Lapeer Co MI~2 x Cane Corsos~07/23/14
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2718167/Undocumented-immigrant-couple-Dogs-killed-Michigan.html
25. Cindy Whisman~59 y/o~Butler Co OH~1 x Pit Bull~08/01/14**
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/babysitting-grandma-mauled-death-family-pit-bull-sheriff-article-1.1893155
https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/madison-township/sheriffs-deputies-investigate-fatal-dog-mauling-of-butler-county-woman
26. Joel Chirieleison~6 y/o~Gilchrist Co FL~2 x Pit Bulls~08/07/14**
https://www.gainesville.com/article/20140808/ARTICLES/140809579
https://www.ocala.com/article/20140808/ARTICLES/140809703
27. Deriah Solem~22months~St Charles Co MO~1 x Pit Bull~08/11/14**
https://www.ksdk.com/story/news/local/2014/08/11/deriah-solem-dog-attack-dies/13904037/
https://www.khou.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/11/girl-attacked-by-family-dog-dies/13906775/
28. Javon Dade~4 y/o~Miami-Dade Co FL~2 x Pit Bulls~08/13/14
https://www.local10.com/news/child-mauled-to-death-by-dog-in-southwest-miamidade-county/27455094
https://miami.cbslocal.com/2014/08/22/father-woman-charged-in-boys-mauling-death/
29. David Glass~51 y/o~Benton Co MS~pack of Pit Bulls~09/21/14
https://www.wmcactionnews5.com/story/26596381/dog-owner-charged-after-dogs-maul-kill-man
https://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/26597986/benton-co-man-dies-from-pit-bull-attack
30. Alice Payne~75 y/o~Independence Co AR~1 x Pit Bull~09/26/14**
https://www.kait8.com/story/26648950/elderly-woman-attacked-killed-by-pitbull
https://www.katv.com/story/26648414/woman-dead-after-dog-attack
31. Juan Fernandez~59 y/o~Stanislaus Co CA~4 x Pit Bulls~10/15/14
https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/10/15/modesto-man-dies-after-neighbors-pit-bulls-attack-him-while-he-defends-mother/
https://www.kcra.com/news/local-news/news-modesto/modesto-man-59-dies-from-pit-bull-mauling/29145306
Pit bull is not a breed of dog. There is no such thing as a pit bull advocacy of America. The majority of fatalities each year are by mixed breed dogs.
Well I tell you what Lesley, you tell this little seven year old girl that nearly had her face ripped off by a lab how BSL helps her??, how BSL will help stop similar attacks in the future??, how Bsl wouldn’t of stopped her attack and then you can tell WHY you think BSL is good?? and I’m sure her parents may well be interested in what you have to say??
https://www.wfla.com/story/25359134/girl-recovering-from-dog-mauling
Cite the American Pit Bull Terrier Statistics. Mock my name all you want. You posted 31 stories and still have not address my question.
The majority of fatalities are by mixed breed dogs each year. Pit bull is not a breed of dog. It’s an inaccurate label.
Pit bulls have killed more people in the first 14 years of the 21st century
(243 known fatal attacks) than in the previous 200 years of the 19th and 20th centuries combined (199 known fatal attacks).
See the list: https://www.fatalpitbullattacks dot com/
and non pitbulls have killed too Thomas?? what about them Thomarse?, what about their families Thomas?? check out these stories the victis are just as dead as pitbull victims??
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if you want t know why BSL doesn’t work just check out the stories of the victims of non pitbulls, we are not for any dog!! we are for stopping ALL deaths!!
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Pit bull is not a breed of dog.
Pit bull is not a breed of dog. Will that ever sink in? Not an accurate description for any dog.
Taking all the nuance out of an issue and making every argument black or white, is great for raising funds for your .org, but it isn’t doing anything to educate people about the problem. There is a large group of well reasoned people, vets, scientists, police and politicians who seek out the truth in this highly contentious issue. We’re caught in the middle of a hysterical few and a group of knuckleheads. The hysterical few will inset that every single pit bull, defined by up to 26 different breeds, and their owners are hell bent on destruction. The knuckleheads are bad owners who want the image of a tough dog to fill some shortcoming in their sad little lives. And they make their dogs aggressive, no matter the breed. There are also a large group of people who know so little about dogs that they are not fit to be an owner of any dog whatsoever. Their dogs are not socialized, their dogs are not trained, they do nothing to get the dog’s respect, and those dogs will make their own rules. All of these factors creates a lot of confusion and anger on all sides. Yes, nearly every pit bull will never harm anyone. This is a fact. By an overwhelming majority this is the norm, good, gentle family dogs. So this isn’t a black and white issue. This is an issue badly in need of less hysterical rhetoric and well reasoned ideas. I find it concerning that the most hateful rhetoric is not aimed at the knuckleheads who train their dogs to be aggressive, rather, most of the nasty rhetoric is aimed at good, loving dog owners. Unfortunately so is Breed Specific Legislation.
indeed well said
when i use the word “pitbull” i mean the term that foamers and media use, i am not referring an american pit bull terrier if i mean APBT, i say APBT, by pitbull foamers reffer to anything up to 30 breeds maybe even more
I know. It’s just that the term pit bull has been so overused that any dog with some type of block head gets called a pit bull and gets blamed for everything. The American Pit Bull Terrier is the only purebred dog that has pit bull in its name and anything else should be called something else and not a pit bull. If we never had the term pit bull used all over the place, I can only imagine things would have been easier for these dogs.
Thomas’s “stats” listed above compare purebred dogs to a large population of a number of breeds which is misleading. Most people assume pit bull is a specific breed in this case, but it is about 30 or more breeds. Plus nearly all the breed IDs are non scientific, mostly based on opinion. Even the CDC states that they go off of news reports when creating their breed stats. Interestingly, the Rotweilier, Mastifs, Boxer and any sort of mix, Lab, Rott that ‘looks like it could’ have pit in them is usually included in those pit bull ‘stats. And interestingly, I could have sworn that just last week Thomas McCartney said that Rhodesian Ridgebacks we’re just another name for pit bull. Hard to say, I’ve seen so many of these incendiary copy and paste posts under so many different names.
The following is a list of the top 10 dog breeds involved in dog attacks in the U.S. and Canada involving humans from September 1982 to December 31, 2013, based on a larger table compiled by Merritt Clifton, former editor of Animal People, an animal rights charity/news group. Clifton now is the editor of Animals 24-7.
A Bullmastiff is considered a pit bull type dog and a pit bull mix between a pit bull and a mastiff and is 40% pit bull.
Breed ****** Attacks doing bodily harm ****** Maimed ****** Deaths
1. Pit bull **********2792 ***********************677 **********263
2. Rottweiler *******514 ************************294 **********81
3. Bull Mastiff ******105 ************************61 ***********15
4. German Shepherd 102 **********************63 ***********15
5. Wolf Hybrid ******85 *************************49 ***********19
6. Akita **************68 ************************50 ************8
7. Boxer *************62 ************************29 ************7
8. Chow *************58 ************************39 ************7
9. Pit bull/Rottweiler mix 50 ********************15 ************15
10.Labrador ********50 *************************39 ************3
The report states that the numbers are compiled from press accounts dating to 1982. It only includes attacks by dogs of clearly identified breed type or ancestry, as designated by animal control officers or others with evident expertise, which have been kept as pets.
All accounts are cross-checked by date, location and identity of the victim, according to the report.
Attacks by police dogs, guard dogs and dogs trained specifically to fight are not included in the report.
Pit bull is not an accurate term for any dog Thomas. The American Pit Bull Terrier is a purebred dog and should only be called that. No dog should be called a pit bull. Call them a mixed breed dog if they are mixed breed or their accurate purebred name if they are a purebred dog. It will save a lot of block headed dogs some heartache being judged before you get to know a mixed breed dog or a purebred dog with a block head that is not an American Pit Bull Terrier.
Sadly one does not even have to search for the many attacks of these savage mutant undog’s on humans and pets, there are literally hundreds of new incidents every day carried out by these disgusting creatures, here is another.
These are all major daily newspapers and network TV station accurate factual reports with direct access to Doctors, ER’s Animal control officers, Police, the victims family, witnesses, the guilty pit nutters, all in news reports from major city newspapers and TV stations, as legit therefore as it possibly can be.
There is only one breed that has every been or is a threat to public safety and that is the pit bull, the sooner they are exterminated the sooner tragic attacks like the one below will be ended.
Ban the breed and end the deed.
Dogs are not humans, there is every reason to be threatened by a pit bull just because of what it is, no different then it would be to feel threatened by ANY bear, lion, tiger, wolverine, cobra etc. that you encountered, if they charged you then there would be justification to kill any of them if you were carrying, same thing with a pit bull, any pit pit bull.
You can no more be biased or prejudiced against any pit bull then you can be so against any bear, lion, tiger, wolverine, cobra etc. so that is an absurd argument on the part of the nutters.
That 6% of the dog population carries out 70%+ of the killings, mauling, crippling, disfiguring and dismembering attacks to such a disproportionate extent speaks for itself and to the genetic truth and reality that exists in any pit bull type dog, it is what it is and does what is in it’s DNA.This has been breed into them over 600 years and is their truth, they must therefore become extinct.
Any other dog will bite and run giving you a few stitches, a pit bull will not stop till you are DEAD.What about that do you not understand, the difference between another dog’s bite and a pit bulls mauling and dismembering, disfiguring and killing.
My Legislation Proposal to be enacted by all states,
cities and counties in the US & Canada.
All dogs must be:
Or all dangerous dogs must be:
Or all dangerous molosser breeds, including pit bull type dogs (American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire bull terriers, American pit bull terriers, American Bulldog, Bull mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, presa canarios, Japanese Tosa, cane corsos and their mixes and any dog generally recognized as a pit bull or pit bull terrier and includes a dog of mixed breed with predominant pit bull or pit bull terrier characteristics), as well as rottweilers, chow chows, Doberman pinschers, German shepherds, must be:
* Licensed
* All Pit bull type dogs Micro-chipped with any bite history in database for reference.
* Insured: All dogs must be covered by mandatory liability insurance of $100,000 min. generic and $500,000 after a skin breaking bite with insurance companies based on actuarial statistic’s determining said rate.
* Spayed/neutered (except for limited approved show dog breeders)
* All breeds involved in any bite incident must be kenneled in a locked five-sided enclosure with concrete bottom.
For all other dog owners language can be written that enclosure such as fences must be capable of containing your dog period, such generic language puts the onus on the owner, have the fines be so onerous that said owner will ensure this they make this so.
1,000 the first time, double the second time and permanent confiscation the third time with a ban on said person from owning any dog within city limits, this will create an effective outcome directly or indirectly.
* All dogs must be on leashes outside of home enclosure
* All molosser breeds must also be muzzled outside of home enclosure
* No transport of declared dangerous dogs for the purpose of re-homing. (Dangerous dogs must be dealt with where their history is known.)
* All of the rules listed above also apply to rescues: rescued dogs must be licensed and subject to inspection.
$1,000 fine for noncompliance
Elimination of the one-bite rule in all of the 50 U.S. states
Manslaughter charges for owner of dog that kills a human
Felony charge for owner of dog that mauls human, dog, or other domestic animal.
Pit bull is not a breed of dog. Has it sunk in yet? The more the term pit bull is thrown around it demonizes dogs that aren’t American Pit Bull Terrier purebred dogs and American Pit Bull Terrier purebred dogs shouldn’t be demonized either. Dog bites have to do with human failings. Not the dog.
We don’t group various shepherd type dogs and give them a slang name. Why do we do it with block headed dogs and call them pit bulls demonizing them? That started with the media 25 years ago.
Sources and Resources
Barnes, Jaclyn. “Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors: Implications for Risk Assessment.” Journal of Interpersonal Violence 2006.https://jiv.sagepub.com/cgi/content/ab…
Bradley, Janis. Dogs Bite: But Balloons and Slippers Are More Dangerous. James & Kenneth Publishers, 2005.
Bradley, Janis. “Dog bites: Problems and solutions.” Animals and Society Institute, 2006.https://www.nationalcanineresearchcoun…
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. “Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998.”https://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecr…
Clifton, Merritt. “Dog Attack Deaths and Maimings, U.S. and Canada, 1982 through 2007.” Self published.
Delise, Karen. Fatal Dog Attacks: The Facts Behind the Statistics. Anubis Press, 2002.
Delise, Karen. The Pit Bull Placebo: The Media, Myths, and Politics of Canine Aggression. Anubis Press, 2007.
National Canine Research Council.https://www.nationalcanineresearchcoun…
Statistics Help For Journalists.https://www.robertniles.com/stats/
Vicious Dogs Part 2: Criminal Thinking, Callousness, and Personality Styles of Their Owners, by Allison M. Schenk, B.A., Laurie L. Ragatz, M.S., and William J. Fremouw, Ph.D, A.B.P.P., Journal of Forensic Sciences, November 10, 2011.
Vicious Dogs: The Antisocial Behaviors and Psychological Characteristics of Owners, by Laurie Ragatz, M.A., William Fremouw, Ph.D., Tracy Thomas, M.A., and Katrina McCoy, B.S., Journal of Forensic Sciences, March 3, 2009.
Ownership of High Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors: Implications for Risk Assessment, by Jaclyn E. Barnes, Barbara W. Boat, Frank W. Putnam, Harold F. Dates, Andrew R. Mahlman, Journal for Interpersonal Violence, 2006; 21; 1616.
Views of College Students on Pit Bull “Ownership” New Providence, The Bahamas, by Tyrone J. Burrows Jr., William J. Fielding, The College of the Bahamas, Society & Animals, 13-2; 2005.
Dog Fighting Detailed Discussion, by Hanna Gibson, Michigan State University College of Law, Animal Legal and Historical Center, 2005.
Managing the Stigma of Outlaw Breeds: A Case Study of Pit Bull Owners, by Hillary Twining, Arnold Arluke, Gary Patronek, Tufts Center for Animals and Public Policy, Society & Animals Journal of Human-Animal Studies, Vol. 8 Number 1, 2000.
Dogmen: The Rationalization of Deviance, by Craig J. Forsythe, Rhonda D. Evans, Texas A&M University, Society & Animals Journal of Human-Animal Studies,Vol. 6 Number 3, 1998 .
Model Non-Breed-Specific Ordinances
Studies have shown that dog owner (mis)management is frequently the cause of dog bites. Dogs that are not properly socialized, trained, and contained are often implicated in dog bites. Furthermore, dogs have no control over their environment—but their owners do.
Consequently, dangerous dog laws should more properly be called dangerous dog owner laws, because the laws should focus on owner actions (and inactions) and owner responsibility (and irresponsibility). Dog owners are capable of—and should be held responsible for—safely controlling their dog, no matter what breed or type of dog they happen to own.
Following is a list of model dog control ordinances compiled from various sources, as cited.
Model Dog And Cat Control Ordinance (Appendix 2) and Model legislation for the identification and regulation of “dangerous” dogs (Appendix 4) from the American Veterinary Medical Association. Includes the following elements:
Model Dog and Cat Control Ordinance (Appendix 2)
Definitions
Licensing and Rabies Vaccination
Permits
Issuance and revocation of permits and licenses
Owner responsibility
Impoundment
Redemption
Adoption
Interference
Repeals
Severability
Applicability
Safety Clause
Model legislation for the identification and regulation of “dangerous” dogs (Appendix 4)
Actions allowed by authorized persons prior to hearing
Definitions
Hearing procedure
Requirements for owners of dogs deemed dangerous
Model Animal Control Law by National Animal Interest Alliance. A basic ordinance suitable for city or county level. Includes the following elements:
Definitions
Administration
Animal Control: Dogs
Animal Control: At-Risk Dogs
Animal Control: Dangerous Dogs
Animal Control: Cats
Animal Control: Exotic Animals
Animal Control Advisory Board
Cruelty, Abuse, and Neglect
Responding to the data: a guide to constructing successful pet-friendly ordinances by National Animal Interest Alliance. This goes hand-in-hand with the sample model animal control law and serves as a guide for those who wish to write their own legislation.
Proposed Dangerous Dog Act by the Association of Pet Dog Trainers. Suitable for state-level implementation. Interestingly, provides a scale by which a dog’s aggressive behavior can be measured to aid in the determination of dangerousness or viciousness. Includes the following elements:
Findings, Definitions, and General Provisions
Judicial Process
Severity Determination
Disposition of Potentially Dangerous or Vicious Dogs
Penalties
Miscellaneous
Investigators performed a retrospective review of emergency room records of a single tertiary pediatric hospital. Records of all patients who were evaluated for dog bite injuries between April of 2001 and December of 2005 were reviewed. All demographic, patient, and injury details were recorded. More than 30 different offending breeds were documented in the medical records. The most common breeds included pit bull terriers (50.9 percent), Rottweilers (8.9 percent), and mixed breeds of the two aforementioned breeds (6 percent).
https://journals.lww.com/plasreconsurg/Abstract/2009/08000/Pediatric_Dog_Bite_Injuries__A_5_Year_Review_of.28.aspx
Can one do the math and realize that pit bulls are the biggest offenders?
Alternatives
There are quite a few alternatives to BSL that promise public protection and bite reduction without as many drawbacks.
What BSL misses—the role of the owner in creating a safe or dangerous situation—these alternatives tackle head on.
View some model dog ownership laws.
Consider the role of proper containment in preventing dog bites.
Prevent dog abuse and dog fighting in your community.
Educate children and adults about safety around dogs.
Offer low-cost or free spay and neuter programs to encourage people to invest in their pets.
Offer low-cost or free training or a behavior helpline to encourage people to understand their dog’s behavior.
Regulate breeders to ensure that puppies start out on the right foot, behaviorally and health-wise.
Prevent violent, abusive, and irresponsible people from obtaining any more dogs.
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American Bar Association (ABA) urges repeal of all breed-specific laws
Posted on August 7, 2012 by admin
On Monday, August 6, 2012, the American Bar Association (ABA) House of Delegates, meeting at the 2012 ABA convention in Chicago, approved a resolution urging “all state, territorial, and local legislative bodies and governmental agencies [. . .] to repeal breed discriminatory or breed specific provisions.”
This comprehensive recommendation is accompanied by an extensive report detailing the legion of problems associated with breed specific regulation, including significant questions of due process; waste of government resources[i]; documented failure to produce safer communities[ii]; enforcement issues connected with identifying the dogs to be regulated or seized[iii]; and infringement of property rights.
The complete resolution and accompanying report can be read by clicking here.
The American Bar Association (ABA), founded in 1878, considers itself to be the world’s largest voluntary professional organization, with some 400,000 members. In addition to being dedicated to accrediting the nation’s law schools and providing practical resources for legal professionals, the ABA prides itself in working to improve the administration of justice.
In addition to urging repeal of all breed specific regulations, Resolution 100 endorses “breed-neutral dangerous dog/reckless owner laws that ensure due process protections for owners, encourage responsible pet ownership and focus on the behavior of both individual dog owner and dogs[.]“[iv]
With the passage of Resolution 100, the ABA adds its name to the long list of national organizations opposed to breed specific regulation, including the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and the National Animal Control Association (NACA), the association of animal services professionals charged with enforcing the nation’s animal ordinances.[v]
SOURCES: American Bar Association (ABA). Resolution 100. (August 2012). [Text of Adopted Resolution and Report] Accessed at: https://www.abanow.org/2012/06/2012am100/
Cassens-Weiss, Debra. Annual Meeting of the ABA House of Delegates. (August 6, 2010). Pit Bull Bias? ABA House OKs Resolution Urging Breed-Neutral Dog Laws. ABA Journal. Accessed at: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/pit_bull_bias_aba_house_oks_resolution_urging_breed-neutral_dog_laws/
NOTES
[i] See: Best Friends Animal Society’s Breed Discriminatory Law (BDL) Fiscal Impact Calculator.
[ii] See these additional NCRC Commentaries, as well: The Worldwide Failure of Breed-specific Legislation; Denver: Selective Counting and the Cost to People and Pets; Maryland’s Experience: the Public Record and the Tracey v Solesky Ruling; Miami-Dade County: No Positive Results; Dog Breed-Specific Legislation: The Cost to people, pets and veterinarians, and the damage to the human-animal bond (AVMA Convention, July 11 – 14, 2009 Seattle, Washington), and Sioux City Breed Ban Misses the Mark. Additional commentaries are accessible here.
[iii] See also: A Comparison of Visual and DNA Identification of Breeds of Dogs, by Victoria L. Voith, PhD, DVM, DACVB. Published in Proceedings of Annual American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Convention, July 11-14, 2009 Seattle, WA. (See also: Voith, V., Ingram, E., Mitsouras, K., & Irizarry, K. (July 2009). Comparison of Adoption Agency Identification and DNA Breed Identification of Dogs. Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science. 12(3). 253-262.) A poster illustrating the project, which was presented at ACVB/AVSAB July 2010 can be viewed here.
Also refer to “Dog breed identification is no basis for shelter policy,” an NCRC commentary on a study report and poster authored by Kimberly R. Olson, BS and Julie K. Levy, DVM, PhD, DACVIM, of the Maddie’s®Shelter Medicine Program, University of Florida and Bo Norby, CMV, MPVM, PhD, of the Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences, Michigan State University. The poster can be viewed here.
[iv] See also NCRC’s ‘Responsible Pet Ownership’ information. Click here to open these webpages.
[v] See also CDC and AVMA statements on this subject by clicking here. Click here to view the NACA statement regarding breed-specific legislation (which can be read under the section heading ‘Extended Animal Control Concerns’).
Also see this NCRC report summarizing a recent AVMA Task Force Report (AVMA Animal Welfare Division. (17 April 2012) The Welfare Implications of the Role of Breed in Dog Bite Risk and Prevention.) for additional reference: ‘Pit Bull’ Regulation Not a Basis for Dog Bite Prevention.
AMERICAN CANINE FOUNDATION
DOES BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION REDUCE DOG BITES AND
FATALITIES ?
In analyzing nonfatal dog bite injuries we find an increase in serious injuries each year. A
study was done by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and the Center for
Injury Prevention (view study here) which showed in 1994 that 333,700 patients were
treated for dog bites in emergency departments (EDs) and in 2001 there were 368,245
patients treated in EDS’s.
A study was done by the American Canine Foundation which shows that where breed
bans have been enacted dog bite incidents reports have increased. Based on current
dog data, banning ten breeds of dogs from a city will not reduce dog bites given the ratio
between mixed breeds compared to purebred dogs. Strong laws that penalize the
owners, regardless of the breed are what is needed.
These types of laws are valid, have merit and are not vague or capricious. ACF supports
laws that hold owners accountable for their dog’s behavior. Laws need to declare a dog
potentially dangerous when it menaces a human, or when they bite a human or
domestic animal. The owners need to be cited and placed under restrictions. A second
offense should automatically declare the dog dangerous and call for a misdemeanor
charge against the owner.
Results A total of 16 urban and rural jurisdictions with pit-bull bans were identified. At the provincial level, there was a significant reduction in DBIH rates from the pre-BSL to post-BSL period (3.47 (95% CI 3.17 to 3.77) per 100 000 person-years to 2.84 (95% CI 2.53 to 3.15); p=0.005). In regression restricted to two urban jurisdictions, DBIH rate in Winnipeg relative to Brandon (a city without BSL) was significantly (p<0.001) lower after BSL (rate ratio (RR)=1.10 in people of all ages and 0.92 in those aged <20 years) than before (RR=1.29 and 1.28, respectively).
Conclusions BSL may have resulted in a reduction of DBIH in Winnipeg, and appeared more effective in protecting those aged <20 years.
https://injuryprevention.bmj.com/content/early/2012/06/29/injuryprev-2012-040389.full?ga=w_bmjj_bmj-com
LOL, attorneys make money from those attacks. Are you kidding me, you think they are a source when all they are looking at is the continuation of a money maker – the pit bull. And NCRC, a failed self published author, now you are hilarious. https://daxtonsfather.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/the-pit-bull-lobby-jane-berkey-animal-farm-foundation-karen-delise-the-national-canine-research-council-indeterminate-breeds/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/03/05/new-jersey-s-1310-would-end-breed-discrimination-by-insurance-companies/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/02/11/aurora-colorado-repeal-needs-help-now/
Clayton MO unanimously repeals breed discriminatory la
Garden City Kansas repeals breed discriminatory law
https://stopbsl.org/2014/02/11/aurora-colorado-repeal-needs-help-now/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/02/20/maryland-hb-422-would-prohibit-breed-discriminatory-laws-on-the-state-level/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/02/27/missouri-hb-1116-to-prohibit-breed-discrimination-on-the-state-level-passes-committee/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/03/05/south-dakota-bill-end-prohibit-breed-discriminatory-laws-on-the-state-level-goes-to-the-governor/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/03/13/medford-oregon-officials-reject-breed-discriminatory-law/
https://stopbsl.org/2014/05/28/south-bend-indiana-unanimously-repeals-breed-discriminatory-law/
The military has banned pit bulls, HUD has banned pit bulls. Here’s a few more. https://www.dogsbite.org/legislating-dangerous-dogs-state-by-state.php
wrong. Some military housing has pit bull bans. Some public housing has pit bull bans.
PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS SHOULD COUNT FOR SOMETHING.
Members of the National Animal Control Association, the ASPCA, the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, and many other canine welfare groups deal with aggressive dogs on a regular basis. So do these major animal organizations support breed-specific legislation? No. In fact, none of these professional groups do. Read their position statements and find out why not.
(alphabetic order)
American Bar Association (ABA)
American Dog Owners Association (ADOA)
American Humane
American Kennel Club (AKC)
American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA)
American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)
American Working Dog Federation (AWDF)
Association of Pet Dog Trainers (APDT)
Best Friends Animal Society
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)
International Assocation of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC)
International Association of Canine Professionals (IACP)
National Animal Control Association (NACA)
National Animal Interest Alliance (NAIA)
National Association of Dog Obedience Instructors (NADOI)
Only when you know their associations and who gives them money. Sorry, but you didn’t score with this list. Only thing you showed is that you are a puppet who will post anything without looking into it herself.
Draft Policy on Dangerous Dog Strategies and Breed Specific Legislation (BSL)
Animal Aid supports the creation of evidence based regulatory policy.
While enforcing the enacted legislation, Animal Aid would seek to replace Breed related legislation aimed at reducing dog bite statistics on the grounds that:
• BSL does not reduce the number of dog bites.
• BSL does not address the number of bites that arise from other breeds and cross-breeds.
• BSL ignores the fact that there may be highly sociable and well adjusted individuals in any breed.
• The identification of Pitbull Terriers (the breed under scrutiny at present) and other banned breeds from visual standards cannot be determined with complete relaibility.
The Facts
• Studies have shown that BSL has not reduced bites in the UK (Klaassen, Buckley, & Esmail, 1996), Germany (Schalke, Ott, & von Gaertner, 2008; Ott, Schalke, von Gaertner, & Hackbarth, 2008) or the Netherlands (Cornelissen & Hopster, 2010) and BSL has been repealed in Germany and the Netherlands. Only one study supports the effectiveness of BSL and that incorporated many other strong initiatives to promote responsible ownership (Villalbi et al., 2010).
• Incontestably identifying a ‘restricted breed’ dog is currently impossible. Visual determinations of breed made by a Victorian government appointed ‘breed panel’ of experts was overturned by legal challenge.
• There are no definitive objective criteria, such as a DNA test, to identify a Pitbull Terrier.
• The Division of Local Government in NSW reports that in 2005 only 1-2% of attacking dogs were identified as restricted breeds i.e. 98% were not. The percentage of bites attributable to restricted breed dogs has been steadily decreasing (0.06% in 2008 and 0.2% in 2009). Therefore, BSL could only ever be expected to reduce the number dog bites by a very small amount.
• Any breed of dog breed can bite regardless of breed. The challenge is identifying which one is likely to do so before they actually do it. Recommendations
• Identifying strategies that work elsewhere and implementing them. For example, Calgary, Canada has reduced dog bites and shelter euthanasia; increased desexing and regulatory compliance without BSL or mandating desexing. Incidentally, Calgary has a very high population of Pitbull Terriers
(see https://www.petsmartcharities.org/resources/the-calgary-model-for-success.html).
• Develop the ability to identify individual dogs that have a propensity to bite, regardless of species by establishing if there are genetic markers of canine aggression.
• Provision of widespread, low-cost dog training targeting problematic and anti-social behaviour to proactively prevent issues developing.
• Development of validated assessments for good temperament and only breeding with dogs that have passed such tests to reduce aggression. While all dogs have the ability to bite, the risk is mediated by the size and sociability of the dog, genetic factors, specific breed characteristics (which are the focus of current attention) and owner responsibility. The Calgary experience indicates that owner responsibility is the key variable. Animal Aid believes that society’s interests are best served by moving away from BSL and using a combination of strategies to reduce dog bites including rewarding responsible owners who register, socialise and train their dogs while rigorously enforcing registration requirements and owner liability for the offences that their dog’s commit. Reference List
Cornelissen, J. M. & Hopster, H. (2010). Dog bites in The Netherlands: a study of victims, injuries, circumstances and aggressors to support evaluation of breed specific legislation. Veterinary Journal, 186, 292-298.
Klaassen, B., Buckley, J. R., & Esmail, A. (1996). Does the dangerous dogs act protect against animal attacks: a prospective study of mammalian bites in the accident and emergency department. Injury, 27, 89-91.
Ott, S. A., Schalke, E., von Gaertner, A. M., & Hackbarth, H. (2008). Is there a difference? Comparison of golden retrievers and dogs affected by breed-specific legislation regarding aggressive behavior. Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 3, 134-140. Schalke, E., Ott, S. A., & von Gaertner, A. M. (2008). Is breed-specific legislation justified? Study of the results of the temperament test of Lower Saxony . Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 3, 97-103.
Villalbi, J. R., Cleries, M., Bouis, S., Peracho, V., Duran, J., & Casas, C. (2010). Decline in hospitalisations due to dog bite injuries in Catalonia, 1997-2008. An effect of government regulation? Inj.Prev., 16, 408-410.
ARAGON, SPAIN
Spain passed the Dangerous Animals Act in 2000, placing restrictions on nine breeds of dogs and dogs possessing “characteristics” of those breeds. A scientific study analyzing dog bites reported to the Aragon health department during a five year period before the Act was passed (1995 to 1999) and the five year period after passage (2000 to 2004) found that there was no significant difference in the number of dog bites in Spain before or after the Dangerous Animals Act passed.
Furthermore, the study found that the most popular breeds (none of which were targeted by the legislation) were responsible for the most bites both before and after passage of the BSL. The targeted breeds accounted for a very small portion of bites both before and after passage of the BSL. The scientists concluded that there was no rational basis for Spain’s BSL.
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Background
Despite the well-established strength of the human-animal bond (Wensley, 2008), exemplified by the nearly 74 million dogs kept as companion animals in the United States, coexistence is not always peaceful. In the U.S., approximately 334,000 people visit emergency rooms annually for dog bites (Bradley, 2006), with an additional unknown number of individuals incurring other dog bite-related injuries (e.g., breaking a bone while fleeing a threatening dog) (AVMA, 2001). Notwithstanding relative stability in the number of dog bites over time (Bradley, 2006), and the fact that according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) only two percent of those seeking emergency room treatment for dog bites each year are actually hospitalized (CDC WISQARS), some communities have enacted laws that intensively regulate or even ban certain dog breeds in an effort to decrease dog attacks on humans (AVMA, 2001). Often, such laws are responses to a particularly violent individual dog attack or, as some hypothesize, result from media campaigns that negatively portray a particular breed (Capp, 2004). However, the theory underlying breed-specific laws—that some breeds bite more often and cause more damage than others, ergo laws targeting these breeds will decrease bite incidence and severity—has not met with success in practice. To understand the ASPCA’s opposition to such laws, it is critical to examine what is known about which dogs bite and why, which dogs are most dangerous, and the impact of breed-specific laws to date.
And the leader of the ASPCA just recently took a job defending cruel puppy mills. Now are you sure you want to use them as a source? The ASPCA is in terrible shape these days, failing to do their duties on cruelty to animals, etc. The AVMA hired a man as director who was highly criticized for failing to do his job as well. Plus the board members of the AVMA are agribusiness friendly, aka cruel puppy mills and breeding. You need to research your ‘sources’ before putting them out there and embarrassing yourself like you have done here.
The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000). Specifically, the authors of this and other studies cite the inherent difficulties in breed identification (especially among mixed-breed dogs) and in calculating a breed’s bite rate given the lack of consistent data on breed population and the actual number of bites occurring in a community, especially when the injury is not deemed serious enough to require treatment in an emergency room (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001; Collier, 2006). Supporting the concern regarding identification, a recent study noted a significant discrepancy between visual determination of breed and DNA determination of breed (Voith et al., 2009).
A variety of factors may affect a dog’s tendency toward aggression; these include heredity, early experience, socialization and training, sex and reproductive status (Lockwood, 1999). For example, intact males constitute 80 percent of all dogs presented to veterinary behaviorists for what formerly has been described as dominance aggression, are involved in 70 to 76 percent of reported dog bite incidents, and are 2.6 times more likely to bite than neutered dogs, while unspayed females “attract free-roaming males, which increases bite risk to people through increased exposure to unfamiliar dogs,” and “contribute to the population of unwanted” and potentially aggressive dogs (Gershman et al., 1993; Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001). Chaining and tethering also appear to be risk factors for biting (Gershman et al., 1993), and programs that target tethering have proven effective in reducing bite rates (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001). Other factors implicated in dog aggression are selective breeding and raising of dogs for elevated aggression, whether for protection, use in dog fighting competitions, social status or financial gain (Bradley, 2006); abuse and neglect (Delise, 2007); and inadequate obedience training and supervision (Shuler et al., 2008).
Breed-specific laws must also be evaluated from a welfare perspective. Although intended to improve community safety and comfort, ultimately these laws can cause hardship to responsible guardians of properly supervised, friendly, well-socialized dogs. In some localities, the list of banned breeds includes not just American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Bull Terriers and Rottweilers, but also a variety of other breeds, including American Bull Dogs, Mastiffs, Dalmatians, Chow Chows, German Shepherd Dogs, Doberman Pinschers and any mix of these breeds. Although guardians of these dogs may have done nothing to endanger the public, they nevertheless may be required to choose between compliance with onerous regulations or forfeiture of their beloved companions, and may even be required to forfeit their companions outright. In Prince George’s County, Maryland, where Pit Bull Terriers are banned, the Animal Management Division reports that 80 percent of the approximately 500 to 600 animals seized and killed by animal control every year under the ban are “nice, family dogs” (Taylor, 2009).
Even laws that ostensibly are only regulatory may impose a de facto ban on a breed, creating a climate where it is nearly impossible for residents to live with such breed, and virtually ensuring destruction of otherwise adoptable dogs by shelters and humane societies. In Ohio, due to a state law that classifies all pit bulls as “vicious” and imposes various requirements on their guardians, pit bull guardians have great difficulty locating housing and obtaining homeowners’ or renters’ liability insurance, and most Ohio shelters have a pit bull non-adoption policy. The consequences have been disastrous: while in 1996, 101 Ohio animal control agencies reported handling 2,141 dogs deemed to be pit bulls, in 2004, 68 agencies reported handling 8,834 such dogs, of whom only 1,425 (16 percent) were reclaimed by their original guardians or adopted by new ones, and 7,409 (84 percent) were killed (Lord et al., 2006). In addition, dogs outside a targeted breed may become “collateral damage” of breed-specific laws. The Prince George’s County pit bull ban places significant pressure on the county shelter, which has limited space and yet must hold pit bulls during the pendency of lengthy legal proceedings. As a result, the shelter has had to euthanize hundreds of otherwise adoptable dogs of many different breeds due to lack of space, and has suffered decreased adoption rates because there are so few dogs available (Taylor, 2004).
Perhaps the most harmful unintended consequence of breed-specific laws is their tendency to compromise rather than enhance public safety. As certain breeds are regulated, individuals who exploit aggression in dogs are likely to turn to other, unregulated breeds (Sacks et al., 2000). Following enactment of a 1990 pit bull ban in Winnipeg, Canada, Rottweiler bites increased dramatically (Winnipeg reported bite statistics, 1984-2003). By contrast, following Winnipeg’s enactment of a breed-neutral dangerous dog law in 2000, pit bull bites remained low and both Rottweiler and total dog bites decreased significantly (Winnipeg reported bite statistics, 1984-2003). In Council Bluffs, Iowa, Boxer and Labrador Retriever bites increased sharply and total dog bites spiked following enactment of a pit bull ban in 2005 (Barrett, 2007).
Also of concern is the possibility that guardians of regulated or banned breeds will be driven “underground…making criminals of otherwise law-abiding people” and deterring them from seeking routine veterinary care, including having their dogs inoculated against rabies. In this regard, it is worth noting that whereas rabies currently kills one or two Americans annually and in some years none, up until the mid-twentieth century it killed approximately one hundred Americans annually. Worldwide, rabies currently kills approximately 55,000 people a year, “ninety-nine percent [of whom] are estimated to have contracted the disease from domestic dogs” (Bradley 2006).
Do you know the difference between a dog bite and a fatality? You talk bites and we talk deaths. Now talk about deaths from canines and the picture changes totally. I can handle a bite, put a bandaid on it, I can’t handle dying while being ripped apart by a pit bull.
First of all, look at the date of your ‘sources’, pretty old aren’t they? This one is newer. Conclusions: Attacks by pit bulls are associated with higher morbidity rates, higher hospital charges, and a higher risk of death than are attacks by other breeds of dogs. Strict regulation of pit bulls may substantially reduce the US mortality rates related to dog bites. https://journals.lww.com/annalsofsurgery/Abstract/2011/04000/Mortality,_Mauling,_and_Maiming_by_Vicious_Dogs.23.aspx
I think the real essence of this issue can be identified simply in Daxtons boofhead actual add which read “pitbulls” have killed blah blah yada yada etc,, there is no breed known as a “pitbull”?? there in lies the folly of BSL when applied by foamers? one einstine below saying,, once we kill the pitbulls if there’s still a problem then we can look at owners?? in the meantime children die??
Right, pit bulls only exist when they A. Need funding for rescue B. Have saved a family from a fire C. When they’re wearing a tutu and have children draped across them. PS – Einstein would probably like you to learn how to spell his name and include a capital E if you’re going to use in vain and as an insult…
I am being attacked as being a pitbull nutter because I want to stop all deaths not just the one’s caused by “pitbulls”,, pls justify to me why I should stop what I’m doing untill you finish killing all the pitbulls as we all know Colleen Lynn freely admits BSL is about killing pitbulls and that killing all the pitbullls was supposed to lower the death rate and it hasn’t obviously with over 30 deaths already even though the 20 year average is 23.2/yr? but pls do explain the al the nice people why I’m the nutter??
You’re a “nutter” because you systematically spammed this thread with I don’t even care to count how many comments about pit bulls then sum up your rhetoric and propaganda with saying you care about and wish to stop “all deaths”. We could stop 85% of the fatalities and violence by phasing out ONE classification – fighting breeds. They were and are carefully designed killers of pets and people, let’s start there, shall we? Sounds like a sound plan to me.
An estimated 5 to 7 million pit bull terriers live as pets in the United States.
Everyone benefits from a safe society – both people and pets. But instead of punishing innocent dogs for resembling a specific breed, communities should concentrate on holding reckless owners accountable and responsible.
Let us know when that happens… You can have your pit bulls attack and kill someone and run the gambit from no charges at all in some places, a small fine in others, some jurisdictions will give you the killer back, skills honed, while yet another community will prosecute and try you for murder. So, level that playing field and give us a shout, k?
What we have here is a clear case of media bias!!, foamers are clearly being favored, we have over the last 6 hours monitored this blog, 5 members of our group have made posts,comments and replies, screenshots taken and evidence recorded, initially this seems to be a semi covert foamer bias org, further analysis will be done and a course evaluated in due course, at this point I will advise the public expects certain sttandards and freedom of speech, Sentinel .
It’s called stalking, Lilly, something you pitters do all the time to those who have lost family members to pit bulls. You actually stalk these people, victimizing them all over again. Stalking, Lilly, that is what you are doing.
you obviously have me confused with Gabriel Barros Harve I mean Pat
Be sure to fit your tinfoil hat properly, yours may be a little snug around the temples…
lol coming from you that’s got to be a joke?
Denial. That’s what it’s called. Maybe delusional too. Logical fallacy. Lion Tamer Syndrome, narcissism, pure idiocy… Whatever you want to call it, you got it.
These comments sound and awful lot like the gun nut arguments. Want a pit bull? Move to the country and become a prepper.
using dogbite as a source!!! for what propaganda?? how about Jeff uses some reputable sources which have not been exposed to be nothing more then a pitbashing organization that uses Merrit Clifton junk research as scientific statitistics? what a joke!! Colleen freely admits BSL is about killing piutbulls, she also states clearly that she hoped by killing pitbulls the bite stats would fall but they havn’t it’s quite the contrary as the death toll surpasses previous numbers alrerady this year?? If Daxton’s friends truly cared about community safety Jeff wouldn’t be telling everyone they’re perfectly safe so long as there’s ne pitbulls around which couldn’t be further from the truth?? Grow a pair Sentinel and kick this moron Bogart to the street!1 he is directly through his actions adding to the death toill and the anquish of victims and citizens alike?? I am sorry if I havn’t fullfilled Jeff’s perception of a “pitnutter”” you see I don’t even own a pitbull and it’s the same with a lot of pitbull advocates!! we don’t receive money from the pit fighters as Jeff regularly claims we simply want to stop all deaths and not the pitbull related deaths and if Jeff was concerned with community safety as opposed to wanting revenge against a a breed/type of dog because of the 2 dogs that killed his son, a death that has raised a lot of questions about not only the dogs but the baby sitter too, any one who reads the whole story surrounding what happened to Dax would be asking questions many things don’t make sense but the only ones that really know what happenede that day are Dax and Sussan and Dax is dead and Sussan is lying clearly having changed her story several times much like Colleen talking about her attack, both of which are very suspicious??
Oh but yes, you are indeed a pit nutter, you don’t have to own one to be drunk from their koolaid. You have studied up on that propaganda the pitters have put out about Jeff’s son. What kind of people are you that would come after a man who has lost his own son and now wants to prevent others from losing their child? Just what kind of people can you be to victimize the victims with your hateful words? I know the answer.
We didn’t used to be afraid of dogs. We used to be able to walk in our own neighborhoods, with or without our own dogs. Now we are trapped behind fences and doors – unable to even shop in malls without fear of an uncontrolled pit bull dashing to attack. These dogs are changing the entire relationship between people and dogs. We are giving control of the dog population of the U.S. to an underground network of dog fighters and breeders – abetted by the naive who fall for their marketing propaganda. It is very sad.
These pit bull owners can’t get their monsters to behave. The news stories of maulings are becoming more and more frequent. Anyone can use GOOGLE to confirm this. So what do they do? They threaten anyone, including newspaper staff, that DARES to tell the truth. The comments in this thread verify that. They want to know the proponents’ of the ban names. Why? So they can threaten and stalk them. Reminds me of the crazies in scientology. What’s the matter? Aren’t people allowed to dislike a type of dog? I mean, people with common sense don’t want dangerous dogs in their community. This ban protects citizens and normal pets. What’s wrong with that?
What pit bull people never seem to “get” is their irresponsibility. All over the country, their dogs run the streets, kill & attack people, and kill dogs & livestock. Now this is not just normal dog bites but characteristic maulings. Why should any people be wary of being torn to pieces just trying to get to school or jog down the street? Pit people seem unable to build fencing strong enuf to contain their dogs. Many are renters or cannot afford proper containment. To add to municipal burdens, pit bull people are back yard breeding pits because they think they can sell them for $200-600ea. Most of these dogs (who are more dog than people expect) wind up at shelters, where if a no-kill shelter the community is forced to contribute or donate to the keep of a huge # of pits, or if a kill shelter to euthanize them. Foster care begs for donations & sends dogs to inappropriate homes with no home checks. Pit people, if you so love these dogs, stop this tsunami of breeding them! The whole nonsense of “rescuing” them and foisting them off to people who have no time for them is a racket!
Simply
put, border collies do not herd sheep because they are raised on sheep farms;
rather, they are raised on sheep farms because they herd. In addition pointers
point, retrievers retrieve, and mastiffs guard, all because those traits are
part of their breed expectations, meaning strong and continuous selection in
the underlying breeding program ”
Simply put Pit bulls do not attack because they are raised with dog fighters
and drug dealers, dog fighters and drug dealers use pit bulls because they
attack!
It is their nature, their genetic truth and reality.!!
It is not how you raise them rather it is simply what they are.!!
Just like sled dogs run and pull, it is just their nature.!
A pit bull type dog is what it is and does what it is.You can no more alter it
genetic makeup then you can a collies to herd, a hounds to track, a retriever’s to
retrieve, a labs to swim, a pointers to point, a sled dog to run and pull.
They do what they are and a pit bull type dog
is a mauling violent killer that has been bred to be a land shark, nothing you
do can change that, even if you have them from birth.
No matter if you love them, or how you
nurture, train, rehabilitate, raise them optimally as normal dogs from birth,
you can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure,
Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.
For over 600 years the current pit bull type
dog was brought into being through careful selective genetic breeding to create
the most violent murderous fighting dog possible
Wouldn’t pulling this ad be considered Censorship.? What happened to Freedom of speech? How can you possibly expect voters to be informed if you censor ads. There is nothing wrong with this ad. It is truthful, I keep my own numbers on Dog attacks and this is the same number I have, so the ad is not dishonest at all. Just because you have owners harassing you is not a good reason to pull this ad. If they are threatening you, call the police in . Caving into a bunch of thugs from the Dog Mafia is so un-American. And I bet 3/4 of the people that are harassing you don’t live in your town.
Pulling a add that neither serves any purpose, or is false and misleading is NOT considered censorship, its common sense. Is anyone here aware of the hundreds of thousands (respectively) of dogs (pitbulls, mixes) that live in homes across America that are wonderful and great pets, with absolutely NO issues? If you look at “statistics” (and the numbers keep changing as nobody can actually agree on them) they really never add up. I can understand the pain that victims go through, really. But what I DON’T understand are the “victims” rallying against a whole collective breed of dog. BAN THEM, SPAY AND NEUTER OUT OF EXHISTANCE, KILL THEM ALL!!!!!!!!! Really? Is this going to bring back a loved one? How about collectively coming together to create a solution that helps EVERYONE (and doesn’t target responsible owners)?! To a rational person, this makes sense, but obviously there are FEW rational people on here that would agree!
Recently nine-year-old Colby Price Price was the 28th person known to have suffered fatal or disfiguring injuries from a U.S. shelter or rescue dog in 2014, matching the previous record set in 2013. Twenty-five victims in each year were mauled by pit bulls.
Thirty-five dogs from shelters and rescues have killed people since 2010. Among the killer dogs were 24 pit bulls, seven bull mastiffs, two Rottweilers, a Labrador retriever who may have been part pit bull, and a husky.
The most recent victim, Rita Pepe of Branford, Connecticut, 93, died on May 25, 2014 from complications of injuries suffered in an attack on April 13, 2014 by a pit bull who had been adopted from the Dan Cosgrove Animal Shelter.
No one is known to have been killed by a shelter dog from the opening of the first U.S. adoption shelter in 1858 until 1988. Wolf hybrids rehomed by shelters killed two children in 1988-1989.
Three fatalities occurred in the 2000-2009 time frame, inflicted by a pit bull, a Doberman, and a bull mastiff.
Do you include the events leading to these attacks Tom? Or do you just like to cut and paste the names of victims?! I also find this interesting that the ad is placed so close to election day (knowing that repeal is on the ballad in November)! It’s nothing but a fear ploy.
Typical pit nutter ploy, blame the child, blame the victim but never the mutant undog pit bull type dog that mutilated the child.!!!!!
Facts and truths being presented to the public have NO expiry date.!
Just the fact that you call someone a “pit nutter” openly on a public forum speaks volumes of your character! That’s another tactic that you people shamefully use “advocacy =uncaring blame for the victim”. When have I ever stated that I feel no sympathy for victims of ANY accident?! The other term “mutant undog” shows again how tainted your views really are. The more you know Tom, the more you know.
If the muzzle fits wear it.!
It is a legitimate adjective to describe pit bull advocates based on their behavior and conduct.!
And yes the pit bull type dog is a perverted mutation of what a dog is intended to be and has been in the past.
My Legislation Proposal to be enacted by all states,
cities and counties in the US & Canada.
All dogs must be:
Or all dangerous dogs must be:
Or all dangerous molosser breeds, including pit bulls (American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire bull terriers, American pit bull terriers, American Bulldog, Bull mastiffs, dogo argentinos, fila brasieros, presa canarios, Japanese Tosa, cane corsos and their mixes and any dog generally recognized as a pit bull or pit bull terrier and includes a dog of mixed breed with predominant pit bull or pit bull terrier characteristics), rottweilers, chow chows, Doberman pinschers, German shepherds, must be:
* Licensed
* All Pit bull type dogs Micro-chipped with any bite history in database for reference.
* Insured: All dogs must be covered by mandatory liability insurance of $100,000 min. generic and $500,000 after a skin breaking bite with insurance companies based on actuarial statistic’s determining said rate.
* Spayed/neutered (except for limited approved show dog breeders)
* All breeds involved in any bite incident must be kenneled in a locked five-sided enclosure with concrete bottom.
For all other dog owners language can be written that enclosure such as fences must be capable of containing your dog period, such generic language puts the onus on the owner, have the fines be so onerous that said owner will ensure this they make this so.
1,000 the first time, double the second time and permanent confiscation the third time with a ban on said person from owning any dog within city limits, this will create an effective outcome directly or indirectly.
* All dogs must be on leashes outside of home enclosure
* All molosser breeds must also be muzzled outside of home enclosure
* No transport of declared dangerous dogs for the purpose of re-homing. (Dangerous dogs must be dealt with where their history is known.)
* All of the rules listed above also apply to rescues: rescued dogs must be licensed and subject to inspection.
$1,000 fine for noncompliance
Elimination of the one-bite rule in all of the 50 U.S. states
Manslaughter charges for owner of dog that kills a human
Felony charge for owner of dog that mauls human, dog, or other domestic animal.
But what exactly IS a “dangerous dog” Tom?! I would consider the mutt that ran out from a house awhile back and lunged at my leashed pitbull “dangerous”!? If you want regulations on dogs it should be across the board (as ANY dog has the potential to be” dangerous “)! Your target of one specific breed is biased at best. You people will never be satisfied until all pitbulls are extinct (which you have stated before and ultimately will never happen).
If any dog unprovoked attacks and causes harm to anyone or anything then
that is a dangerous dog and needs to be put down.
Other dogs, the 400+ normal breeds are not genetically predisposed to being a killing machine like a pit bull type dog is.
You S/N all pit bull type dogs 6% of all dogs into extinction and attacks that kill over 95% of all people, pets and livestock killed by dogs are stopped.
This is not a bias, merely a simple fact.!!!
In ALL BSL’s all existing pit bull type dogs are grandfathered in with restrictions to leash, muzzle, and S/N and in some cases kennel, signage, liability insurance until they die off naturally, only NEW pit bull type dogs are not allowed in.
In NO case are they put down or even forced to leave the community if they are a grandfathered in pit bull type dog.!
A pit bull BSL works EVERYWHERE it is useful in almost eliminating all serious dog attacks that maim, disfigure, dismember, maul, cripple.
or kill, this is a simply proven fact in all cases.The number of pit bulls is dramatically reduced as are the numbers of them put to death.
The need to have BSL is to have a preemptive capability to avoid a pit bull attack from happening due to it’s extremely savage consequences.
It is enacted against all pit bulls as they all have the genetic DNA propensity to carry out these horrific attacks that are non existent in 99% of all other breeds, ban the breed and you ban the deed, simple as that.
Dealing with an attack after the fact is simply not acceptable due to the horrific nature of said attacks.!
With any other breed other then Rottweiler’s, wolf hybrids and Akita’s and a few others in very small numbers it is not a naturally genetic reality for them to carry out such horrifying attacks.
Hence they need to be dealt with in an aggressive reactive modality where all of the breed are not looked on as one but rather based on the actions of the individual misbehaving dog.
This can be done in a very aggressive proactive manner so that as soon as a dog like a lab lets say starts behaving inappropriately severe consequences can be brought to bare on the owner and their dog in an escalating manner as needed to deal with a situation that has developed.
This duel track approach can deal with the pits issue as other normal dog breeds can be dealt with as well so vicious dogs of other mainstream breeds are also held accountable for their actions.
There should be mandatory Spay/Neuter programs for all breeds but clearly the one that needs it the most and where the most change would be effected would be with the Pit Bull type dog
This is sensible.
Pit-bull bans controversial, but they work
July 19, 2014
WAUSAU – The city of Antigo has been pit-bull-free for almost 20 years.
In 1995, the city hired an attorney who suggested that the city adopt an ordinance prohibiting the oft-maligned dogs from the city, said Kaye Matucheski, city clerk-treasurer for Antigo. The ordinance largely was a preventative measure; Antigo hadn’t had any vicious dog attacks, but pit bulls were being blamed for maulings all over the United States, so the city acted before an attack happened rather than waiting to react afterward.
The ordinance the city adopted prohibits pit bulls and mixes of the breed, as well as any other vicious or dangerous animals, from being in the city. In the almost 20 years since it was adopted, Antigo has had no attacks, no maulings, and no dogs killed by pit bulls or other dogs.
Contrast that with Wausau, where in June, a woman was attacked by a pit bull that charged from its home and killed the Chihuahua the woman was walking. That dog remains in quarantine at the Humane Society of Marathon County as a court case seeking to have it euthanized moves forward.
Meanwhile, the owner of the dog was cited June 19 for allowing a dog to run loose, keeping a vicious dog, failing to license the animal and failure to have it vaccinated for rabies, according to Wausau Police Lt. Mike Juedes. And the woman who was attacked, Cindy Ryder, has called on the city to ban pit bulls as Antigo and other cities have.
Municipal leaders where such bans have been adopted say the rules are simple and they work. They ensure that pit bulls are kept under control to protect the safety of residents and other animals. Critics of the laws, though, say they punish good owners for the actions of bad owners.
The village of Stratford and the city of Greenwood both have similar bans on pit bulls and dangerous animals. Lonna Klinke, Greenwood’s clerk-treasurer, said her city’s experience is much like Antigo’s: no specific incidents inspired the ban, and since it was adopted, the city has had no attacks and issued no citations.
Greenwood, she said, has no pit bull problem.
How the bans work
The June attack in Wausau was the latest in a series of maulings that has seen 10 dogs declared vicious by the city over the last six months, and police are called almost every week to a report of a problem animal running loose or threatening people.
Marathon County spends about $68,000 a year sheltering stray, surrendered and impounded dogs, and last year, about half of the dogs in the Humane Society of Marathon County’s shelter were pit bulls awaiting adoption or euthanasia.
In contrast, Antigo is pit-bull free, and authorities spend almost no resources chasing the problem dogs, Matucheski, the clerk-treasurer, said.
“If there is an incident where we’re informed that a resident has a pit bull, they are visited by the police department and asked to remove the pit bull,” Matucheski said.
Pit bulls that are found in the city are impounded, Matucheski said, and are kept at the humane society, where they can be adopted by people who live outside city limits.
When Antigo adopted its ban, pit bulls already in the city were allowed to stay, but owners had to register them with the city and follow strict guidelines, including muzzling their animals and keeping them on short leashes when they are outdoors — a procedure similar to those in other municipalities that have adopted bans.
According to national dog attack statistics from http://www.dogsbite dot org, pit bulls and pit bull mixes represent about 6 percent of all dogs in the United States but are responsible for the overwhelming majority of all maulings.
Between 1982 and 2013, pit bulls were responsible for 275 deaths and 1,779 maimings, according to the organization, which tracks dog attacks.
Over the same time period, Rottweilers caused 81 deaths and 294 maimings; German shepherds caused 15 deaths and 63 maimings; and Dobermans caused seven deaths and 10 maimings.
About the bans:
Many pit bull bans share stipulations:
Bans on dogs known as “pit bulldogs,” including the Staffordshire bull terrier, the American pit bull terrier, the American Staffordshire terrier breeds, and any dog that has the appearance or characteristics of any of these breeds
Pit bulls that were registered with the city before a ban was implemented are allowed to remain, provided the owner uses a muzzle on the pit bull and that it is kept on a leash no more than four feet long
Owners who have been allowed to keep their pit bulls must have a minimum of $50,000 in single-incident insurance
Owners must post Beware of Dog signs that can be easily seen by the public
Any puppies born to a registered pit bull must be removed from the city within six weeks of their birth
Ed Boks, Executive director, Yavapai Humane Society (responsible Jan 2004 as director City Center for Animal Care & Control in NYC for trying to rename pit bulls New Yorkies; is pb owner)
Pit bull type dogs represent 3000% the actuarial risk compared to other types of dogs.
Insurance companies will have calculated the risks the other listed breeds represent based on what they’ve had to pay out through the years.
This isn’t ‘prejudice’, this is cold statistical reality. Actuarial realities don’t yield to sentiment or a feeling of entitlement — they just are what they are
In June 2013, after a Bay Area child was killed by a family pit bull, San Francisco Animal Care and Control cited the decrease in pit bull bites and euthanasia since the adoption of a 2005 pit bull law.
After 12-year-old Nicholas Faibish was fatally mauled by his family’s pit bulls, the city adopted a mandatory spay-neuter law for the breed. The reasoning was that fixed dogs tend to be calmer and better socialized.
Since then, San Francisco has impounded 14 percent fewer pit bulls and euthanized 29 percent fewer – which is a “significant decrease,” said Rebecca Katz, director of the city’s Animal Care and Control department.
Another significant indicator, she said, is that there have been 28 pit bull bites reported in the past three years – and 1,229 bites by other breeds during the same period. In the three-year period before that, there were 45 pit bull bites and 907 incidents involving other breeds.
Results of mandatory breed-specific S/N in SF: success in San Francisco, where in just eight years there was a 49% decline in the number of pit-bulls impounded, a 23% decline in the number of pit-bulls euthanized, and an 81% decline in the number of pit-bulls involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks.
When the City of Auburn debated enacting a pit bull law in January 2010, Sgt. Bill Herndon of the San Francisco Police Department weighed in about the success of San Francisco’s 2005 pit bull law:
“Since requiring all pit bulls to be neutered, they say they are finding fewer pit bulls involved in biting incidents.
Sgt. Bill Herndon, of the San Francisco Police Department’s vicious dog unit, said the numbers and severity of pit bull attacks are down since San Francisco enacted an ordinance in 2005 after the mauling death of 12-year-old Nicholas Faibish.
“The number of complaints of mean pit bulls has dropped dramatically,” Herndon said.
San Francisco’s animal control department reports more than 30 percent fewer pit bulls at the shelter or being euthanized.”
Council Bluffs, Iowa.
Pit bulls are not only problematic in large cities; they threaten mid-sized cities and small towns as well. Located in the heartland, Council Bluffs, Iowa has about 60,000 citizens.
After a series of devastating attacks, beginning in 2003, Council Bluffs joined over 600 U.S. cities and began regulating pit bulls.
The results of the Council Bluffs pit bull ban, which began January 1, 2005, show the positive effects such legislation can have on public safety in just a few years time:1.
Council Bluffs: Pit Bull Bite Statistics.
Year Pit Bull Bites % of All Bites.
2004 29 23%.
2005 12 10% (year ban enacted).
2006 6 4%.
2007 2 2%.
2008 0 0%.
2009 0 0%.
2010 1 1%.
2011 0 0%.
https://btoellner.typepad.com/kcdogblog/2014/10/defining-bsl-success-sioux-city-ia.html. Here is one case of many where bans are ineffective and spotty as best.
It is only Pit bulls and Pit bull crosses and others like Bullmastiffs, Rotts etc. that attack and can not change their Genetic reality to Kill, Maul, Maim, Disfigure, Dismember, cause Life Flights or trips to the Intensive Care Unit.
These are the kind of attacks that BSL is designed to stop and they do so very successfully, they are not meant to stop everyday minor fear bites from normal dogs as those are not the attacks that pit bull type dogs carry out.
BSL is not designed, intended too nor supposed to stop minor attacks.
So the serious maulings that are carried pout by pit bull type dogs all but ended.
The minor bites by normal dogs it was not intended or supposed to effect increased as the over all dog pop. increased.
So what is your point……………..oh you don’t have one………….i see.
The Ban was completely effective and successful & did what it was intended to do and not what it was not supposed to do.
And what of owner liability? Just curious. Along with demographics and the way that people view their dogs. Elaborate without cut and paste please Tom.
For all other dog owners language can be written that enclosure such as fences must be capable of containing your dog period, such generic language puts the onus on the owner, have the fines be so onerous that said owner will ensure this they make this so.
1,000 the first time, double the second time and permanent confiscation the third time with a ban on said person from owning any dog within city limits, this will create an effective outcome directly or indirectly.
* All dogs must be on leashes outside of home enclosure
* All molosser breeds must also be muzzled outside of home enclosure
* No transport of declared dangerous dogs for the purpose of re-homing. (Dangerous dogs must be dealt with where their history is known.)
* All of the rules listed above also apply to rescues: rescued dogs must be licensed and subject to inspection.
$1,000 fine for noncompliance
Elimination of the one-bite rule in all of the 50 U.S. states
Manslaughter charges for owner of dog that kills a human
Felony charge for owner of dog that mauls human, dog, or other domestic animal.
So Tom. Basically if pitbulls are “grandfathered in” in some areas where bans are put in place, wouldn’t there still be a number of attacks /bites /in home fatalities by “family” dogs? Thought?
All Grandfathered pit bull type dogs are leashed, kenneled, muzzled, chipped, fixed, insured for up to 250,000 or more, no resale, transport, they are registered with photo on file and DNA swab.
You seriously enforce this and the pit bull type dogs are so constrained and limited in number that they can be managed as the vast majority of them will be given up by their owners to be put down.
The number left behind is not that large and manageable.
This is the statistical fact and shown over and over again in all BSL’s of this nature.
For those foolish enough to keep their grandfathered mutants in their home, they will be the authors of their own outcome.
well all you haters: here’s just something you will have to live with: there are 100’s of thousands, maybe millions of dogs people call “pit bulls” or “pitties” or “pibbles” or “blockheads” in this country. They are owned by average people, who love them. 99% of them, like 99% of all dogs, will never cause a moment of trouble other than pee’ing on the floor or eating a sock. They are JUST dogs, not cheetahs or lions. Their owners are JUST ordinary people, not monsters or abusers or dogfighters. That’s just the plain truth. The millions of people who love their dogs (whose numbers are reflected by the number of “likes” for various positive pit bull Facebook pages, as I mentioned in another comment) are the vast majority, compared to the few pathetic losers who spam comment sections like this and put together their Facebook pages and websites spewing hatred and encouraging acts of cruelty against innocent dogs. And that’s why BSL is falling all over this country (despite the few setbacks). The vote to rescind in Aurora may fail, under the weight of the biased, irresponsible “journalism” and hysteria promulgated by the Sentinel and the willingness to lie by the Aurora Animal Control. But the direction of history is clear: Just as marriage equality is becoming reality because Americans understand the truth: that people who love each other want to be married to the ones they love, and why not? and in the same way, discriminatory laws against dogs with a certain appearance are falling because Americans understand the truth: that it’s unenforceable, unfair, cruel, ineffective and divisive. The vote may fail, but progress continues. Some day, even the Denver ban will fall. In the end, hatred and lies lose.
Wow! how many of these people even live in Aurora? I have just learned of the cult of Dogsbite.org, really creepy people. I did read that Denver is 8th on the list of dogsbites in the nation and they have a pit bull ban. I guess that means that all dogs bite.
Does one have to live in Aurora to comment on this article? The actual vote is for the residents that have to live with the outcome.
Pit bull aggression, the pit bull’s grip n’ rip behavior, and other dog fighting behaviors are not “trained”, it is not learned, it is behavior selectively bred into pit bull dogs by dog fighters for over a century.
Canine Behavioral Genetics: Pointing Out the Phenotypes and Herding up the Genes
An astonishing amount of behavioral variation is captured within the more than 350 breeds of dog recognized worldwide.
Inherent in observations of dog behavior is the notion that much of what is observed is BREED SPECIFIC AND WILL PERSIST, EVEN IN THE ABSENCE OF TRAINING OR MOTIVATION. Thus, herding, pointing, tracking, hunting, and so forth are likely to be controlled, at least in part, at the genetic level. Recent studies in canine genetics suggest that small numbers of genes control major morphologic phenotypes. By extension, we hypothesize that at least some canine behaviors will also be controlled by small numbers of genes that can be readily mapped.
Gabriel, what you are copying and pasting presents little or no relevance to the issue. Pitbulls and hunting breeds posses a higher prey drive, this is NOT “aggression”. Aggression and prey drive are completely different issues. Your argument about pointers”pointing” and herders “herding” is really invalid. Dogs need to be TAUGHT to do a job. Does genetics play a role in this? Yes, to a point. Do you think that if two dogs of another breed were “pitted” together for fighting would just turn tail and run? I’m sorry, but I have witnessed some horrible and bloody fights between other breeds myself. Dogs are DOGS, they posses a pecking order that is incomprehensible to humans. The “genetics” argument is a sham.
Pit bulls are blood sport dogs. Bred to kill another dog in “the pit”.
Pit bulls do not need to be “taught” to kill another dog. Herding dogs herd, pointing dogs point, and blood sport dogs kill. Your claim “Dogs need to be TAUGHT to do a job” is false and goes against every working breed dog behavior on the planet.
Can you then come up with a explanation as to why my pitbull “points and flushes” small furries at nighttime when we are walking? But yet eagerly greets unknown dogs on the street? Actually all of the dogs I own possessed this trait. Do I just happen on dogs that don’t “fit your mold” of what pitbulls truly are? Do you even KNOW their history?
Your comment, “Dogs are DOGS, they posses a pecking order that is incomprehensible to humans. The “genetics” argument is a sham.”
Your comment goes against every working breed dog behavior on the planet. If it were true we’d see dogs like Golden Retrievers and Laboradoodles killing at a similar rate as pit bull dogs. It doesn’t happen.
Also, the relation of genetics to behavior is not a sham. It is fact. YOU are a sham.
Please enlighten me as to how my experience is a “sham”, I’m waiting on baited breath
Your failure to acknowledge that breed specific behaviors are genetic. You can’t train the genetics out of a dog, they live and die with the temperament and breed specific behaviors they were born with, only manage them.
https://mabbr.org/pit-bull-ownership/pit-bull-identification-and-genetics/
Gabriel, pitbulls are a WORKING breed period. How people choose to utilize this is of their own account. Unfortunately there are many people who don’t, and they are the ones who ultimately pay the price. Once again, to chastise ME and MY responsible ownership is a proverbial witch hunt.
That’s a pit bull propaganda website. I don’t have to read that garbage to know pit bulls, for over a century, were bred to kill other dogs.
Pit bulls are blood sport dogs. To act surprised when a pit bull acts off its genetic instincts is ludicrous but most all pit bull attack news articles I read about, the pit bull owner is shocked his pit could do such a thing, but it does.
The American Pit Bull Terrier (HISTORY OF FIGHTING DOGS Series) Paperback
by Joseph L. Colby
ISBN-13: 978-1846642562
Originally published in 1936, this book is extremely rare in its early editions. Hugely informative and in-depth, it is a complete treatise on the breed covering the entire field, with particular emphasis on dog-fighting.
So, if pitbulls were to be bred to kill other dogs, how do you explain the attacks on humans. Do you blame the dogs (who’s prey drive and selection for non human aggression is documented) or do you blame the irresponsible owners?
Pit bulls were never meant to be pets, they were bred for aggression. Just because a pit bull is bred for dog aggression does not preclude it from killing a human.
You do realize GSDs are bred to be civil. They have no problem biting a human, but we don’t see them killing humans on a regular basis. In fact, the GSD’s bite force is slightly stronger than a pit bull’s bite force.
The difference is that GSDs were bred to have a good temperament. This allows them to be used as both herding dogs, family dogs, and protection dogs.
Pit bulls might make a good pet in spite of being a pit bull, not because they are a pit bull.
https://m.northumberlandnews.com/opinion-story/4628614-clairmont-no-charges-for-k9-officer-after-his-dog-attacks-girl/. Check yourself and your statistics Gabriel
“The dog has bitten police trainers during training sessions a couple of times, according to documents.”
Yep, it happens. Some lines of GSDs are very dominent. I’ve seen a guy miscorrect his pooch and it bit him back. HUE HUE HUE
“When the daughter left the garage for a moment, Tracker attacked the friend as she was tying the laces of her skates, according to the SIU.”
I can only speculate that either it freaked out when the handler’s daughter went out of sight or more likely it wanted to assert dominance over the girl. Either way it’s not acceptable behavior.
“The girl screamed and rolled into a ball in an effort to protect herself. The daughter returned and, “without panic, asserted her dominance over the dog and boldly issued the retreat commands, ‘Out! Out! Out!'” says the SIU.”
The GSD complied and that in itself is a good sign. Pit bulls rarely comply and even water, air horns, or baseball bats do not deter them from trying to kill someone or their pet.
“Tracker came from the Czech Republic and is a trained drug dog.”
Now why do you think police get their GSDs from the Czech Republic. Could it be GENETICS? Hmmmmm.
“He and Casson were partners for five years and, as is usually the case for K-9 units, Tracker lived at Casson’s house and was kept in an outdoor fenced kennel during the day and in the garage at night.”
Five years and this is his first off-duty incident. That’s really not so bad consdidering it’s a police dog and comfortable biting humans regularly.
Keeping a GSD outdoors and in a garage while it’s not working, IMHO, is not the best option. I don’t know the temperament of this specific GSD but in general it’s not the best scenario.
What I find inherently interesting is when presented with sound and sane propositions, there are proverbial “crickets” in the background from breed extremists. What I would like to know are who in the lot of BSL/ban supporters carry either a bachelor’s degree in animal science OR have hands on experience with powerful breeds of dogs?! By no means do I consider myself a “expert” in dog/human psychology, but from my 30+ years of ownership I believe trumps that of Internet/media experience?! My years of experience tell me that A. Pitbulls can be kept in a home and ultimately live a full and happy life with no incidence. B. Not all pitbulls (mixes) are inherently “dangerous”. C. It is ultimately the responsibility of the owner to ensure that their animals are well kept, well contained and well socialized so that any issue will not present itself.
The American Pit Bull Terrier (HISTORY OF FIGHTING DOGS Series) Paperback
by Joseph L. Colby
ISBN-13: 978-1846642562
Originally published in 1936, this book is extremely rare in its early editions. Hugely informative and in-depth, it is a complete treatise on the breed covering the entire field, with particular emphasis on dog-fighting.
Gabriel, are you a breed expert? Do you have either hands on experience or a BA in dog psychology? Credentials please. If you are just quoting from a book that was published BY dogmen 80 years ago, really. The APBT origins yes, have fighters in their background, but this is not human aggression, it’s DA (prey drive). Most of the breed that is registered today (are you familiar with breed registries? No peek) with the exception of the ADBA, have bred these dogs SO far away from the original, that ultimately there is no argument. Look up the term “game” which holds many meanings and is not solely attached to pitbulls and fighting, then get back to me.
This nutter batting practice would be fun if it weren’t under such serious circumstances. PEOPLE FIRST. KEEP YOUR BAN AURORA!
Reported dog bites down after Sioux City crackdown with BSL pit bull Ban.
SUNDAY, AUGUST 10, 2014
Pit Bull Ban (BSL) Results in 37 Percent Decline in Dog Bites
In 2008 Sioux City, Iowa, banned Pit Bulls and vicious dogs within the city limits. Since then, there has been a drastic reduction in the number of reported dog bites.
SIOUX CITY, Iowa (AP) — Fewer people in Sioux City are reporting dog bites in the wake of a crackdown on vicious dogs and Ban on pit bulls .
The Sioux City Journal reports that officers responded to 37 percent fewer dog-bite complaints last year than they did in 2007, the year before the city banned pit bulls.
Police statistics show officers responded to 115 bite reports in 2008.
The number declined every year since then with the exception of 2010,
when 113 bites were reported.
Seventy-three bites were reported in 2013.
Sioux City police and Animal Control records do not track dog bites by breed within the city, the Sioux City Journal states.
However, Sioux City is the County seat of Woodbury County, and the Siouxland District Health Department provides a breakdown by breed of all bites within the county.
Twenty-six (26) bites by Pit Bulls or Pit bull mixes were reported in the city in 2007– the year before Sioux City Council began discussion of a breed ban, according to the Journal.
That number dropped to six bites countywide in the entire year of 2013.
DOES THIS MEAN THAT BSL WORKS?
This dramatic reduction in dog attacks appears to indicate that breed-specific legislation (BSL) is effective in improving public safety—contrary to claims by advocates that Pit Bulls are no more dangerous than other dogs.
Not all bites are reported to police. Less severe bites or those that do not require hospitalization may be handled by Animal Control.
Though he would like more information to determine for sure whether the ban was responsible for the decrease, Councilman Pete Groetken said the declining numbers show something positive is happening.
The ban included an exception for owners who registered their pit bulls, but no new pit bulls were allowed.
More than 550 were registered before the April 2009 deadline.
That number has since declined to 163.
Again, with the simpleton branding of a collective voice. Your comments would hold SO much more “punch” if you could maybe not use childish puns and name-calling.
https://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/109-collen-lynn-seattle-animal-control-records
https://legal.pblnn.com/pro-bsl-experts/dogbiteorg/109-collen-lynn-seattle-animal-control-records. Would anyone like to elaborate on the ever changing story that sparked this debacle?!
Having a menacing pit bull in my rental unit was what got me interested in this issue. The dog had to be crated every time we or a tradesperson needed to enter the unit. At the time we naively agreed to rent to these people (with the “good-natured puppy” as they described their pet) we had no idea even what a pit bull was. Our backyard fence was woefully inadequate to contain this “family pet” but we hadn’t a clue of the potential danger. After “Titus” broke away from his owner at the front door and attacked a neighbour’s cocker spaniel we knew couldn’t take any more chances with these tenants. Just imagine if it attacked a neighbour’s child. We discovered that this scenario plays out daily across America and we feel so fortunate that we escaped such a tragedy.
Properly written canine legislation protects all citizens from misguided dog owners. It removes the biggest perpetrators from society through spay/neuter (pit bulls are responsible for the majority of deaths and disfigurements) and holds owners of all remaining breeds to a high degree of accountability. It’s not an either/or proposition — good legislation both bans pit bulls AND includes strict penalties for all dog owners, regardless of breed. We owe it to our most vulnerable citizens — infants, children and the elderly, who are the most frequent victims of pit bull attack — to protect them.
Your comment, “we had no idea even what a pit bull was”
Good you were educated, sorry about the circumstances of it.
Your comment, “we feel so fortunate that we escaped such a tragedy.”
You didn’t escape a tragedy, you avoided a potential lawsuit. The tragedy would be the victims of that pit bull dog. You only know of 1 victim, could be more.
All good points. Now I advocate on behalf of victims and feel it is my duty to do so.
Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors
Implications for Risk Assessment
“The analysis revealed that owners of HR (high risk) dogs had significantly more criminal convictions and traffic citations in all categories except crimes involving children.”
“Professionals such as child and adult protection investigators, law enforcement officers, pediatricians and medical practitioners, home visiting professionals, domestic violence investigators, and public health nurses may find it useful to be informed about the breed and specific behaviors of the dogs that share the environment with their clients. First, be aware that the dog breed, especially owning a PIT BULL, may be a risk marker.”
“misguided dog owners” is somehow correct, but not always. A GOOD dog owner, a RESPONSIBLE dog owner will go beyond measures to ensure their dog is safe and the safety of the community becomes first and foremost in their ownership of said dog. When someone comes to my door, my dog barks and guards the door until I get there, then she is made to step back and given the wait command. If it’s someone she knows, she waits until they come inside to greet. If it’s a stranger, she sits quietly and waits. This is owner responsibility called TRAINING and basic obedience. My dog currently would never rush the door and wreck havoc on the community, period end of story. Why? Because I have put the time and effort into proper training, socialization and manners. What EVERY dog owner should do.
Congratulations on being a good dog owner. Through my advocacy work I now know many good dog owners who formerly owned well-loved and trained pit bulls who suddenly attacked and maimed or killed their children and elderly parents. I also know parents whose children were horribly attacked and maimed or killed by neighbors’ pit bulls. If a doxie or a chi (or a hundred other breeds) has a bad moment you might need a bandaid and anti-bacterial cream. If a pit bull has a bad moment you may need paramedics, life flights, plastic surgeons or God forbid undertakers and coroners. The degree of potential damage is the real issue.
First off, if the dog needed to be “removed” before someone entered the premises that should have been a red flag. The only reason that I crate my dog is when my mother comes to visit and is not comfortable with animals period, and I do this out of respect. Your “kudos” for my ownership don’t mean squat if you don’t as well, acknowledge the thousands of other responsible owners out there! And for the record, my landlord had reservations as well, until she met my dog. We have since had 5 years history with ZERO issues!
Oh your pibbles, if it gets out is going to educate you…maybe not.
First off, I don’t refer to my dog as a “fur baby, fur kid, pibble” or the like. My dog is a dog, she has teeth and can possibly do damage (non breed specific)! She did actually get loose from my neighbor who was walking her while I healed from surgery. In a neighborhood full of cats, dogs and various other critters, she gleefully ran straight to home, did two exuberant laps around the house, then ran to the front door to be let inside. Eeeek, crisis everted!
“I don’t have cancer, therefore, cancer doesn’t exist,” said no reasonable person, ever.
Loca, if you refuse to acknowledge the potential of pit bulls to do grievous harm to innocent people and animals who have no say in the matter then you are either being naive or simple coy. This is about harm reduction. Public health and safety trumps anyone’s immature right to engage in faddish, high-risk behavior.
I owned this breed before it was a “fad”. And if you have read my comments, I in no way have stated that the breed is a proverbial teddy bear! I also don’t engage in high risk “behavior”, I’m assuming that you are lumping pitbull ownership along with skydiving, mountain climbing, driving, skateboarding, surfing, out of country travel etc?? If you want to get on the “harm reduction” bandwagon, then collectively come together with other responsible owners for breed neutral laws, don’t use propaganda as your platform!
Again, I must refer you to the study on criminals and pit bull ownership. There is a direct correlation.
We don’t see thugs with Golden Retriever and Laboradoddles.
That is another misguided and ignorant argument. I have seen some very unstable labradoodles AND retrievers in my life span. Were they human aggressive? Some yes, but mostly DA (which can be inherent)! Obviously your not going to see a “thug” (although I would really like to know what your thoughts are on exactly what a thug is) sporting a poodle (but I guess I have seen my fair share of what I consider to be “thugs” walking chi’s and mini dogs)! I can only assume that you consider “thugs” drug dealers, criminal deviants and the like. Let me ask you this. If you were to come into my work (say for a job) and you happened to get me as your trainer (not knowing what breed of dog I owned), would you generalize me as a thug? Mind you, I work in social services. Just a question.
I’ve been involved with dogs and dog clubs for years now. I’ve seen pit bulls come and go. All kinds of dogs, pit bulls, rescues, pit bulls of frustrated owners, pit bull of seemingly good owners. All kinds.
I’ve watched pit bulls pass basic obedience, I’ve watched most fail basic obedience…usually for dog aggression. 😉
The normal dogs I’ve met have been, for the most part, stable. The pit bulls I’ve met have been either unimpressive or outright monsters. I’ve met a few good pit bulls but most, at some point of the day, are looking for a fight.
The most hilarious spectacles are the pit bull owners who are ignorant about the breed they own. Pay some money, bring their pit bull dog in and expect it to become socialized while it’s being trained. What a disaster. HUE HUE HUE
Your comment, “If you were to come into my work (say for a job) and you happened to get me as your trainer (not knowing what breed of dog I owned), would you generalize me as a thug?”
Now, we’ve been relatively civil to each other (not the GSD civil). Why would you ask me to insult you? Come on now.
I already have breed specific legislation where I live. I’m here to advocate for BSL because it works. It’s indisputable. The tenants we had were scofflaws and they knew it. We didn’t know they were bringing an illegal animal onto our premises because they were not forthcoming when they signed the lease.
So just because you had this one bad tenant (and I’m sure you have encountered many), you assume that all pitbull owners are criminal?
Pit bull Rescue Central admits MOST pit bull types are not safe around other dogs. For that reason alone is why I do not consider them safe family pets for our neighborhoods. These are powerful animals that break away from their guardians all the time and maul & kill another beloved pet or person in front of a child or person. This is a typical pit attack on another animal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBFb-hGWZqg Breaking-up pit attacks is dangerous 1/3 end up attacking the person that’s breaking up the fight. https://dogbitelaw.com/dangerous-vicious-dogs/a-propensity-to-attack-other-dogs-means-a-dog-is-dangerous-to-people.html
“According to Pit Bull Rescue Central, the leading authority of pit-bull type dogs, “It is a FACT that our pit bulls, AmStaffs and pit mixes come with a built-in fighting heritage.It doesn’t matter where we get them from, whether it be the pound, a stray we pick up, or a puppy we buy from a breeder. The majority of pit bulls will, at some point in their lives, exhibit some degree of dog-on-dog aggression. This type of animal aggression is completely separate from human-aggression; a well-socialized pit bull is very good-natured with people.Yet, chances are that a “normal” pit bull will not share his affection with other animals.We cannot predict when or where it will happen and we can’t love, train or socialize it out ofthe dog. Pit bulls may not start fights, but they will finish them.” https://www.pbrc.net/misc/PBRC_dogpark.pdf”
The Pit Bull Rescue Central recommends ALL pit guardians to have a break stick. FOR ME THIS IS ANOTHER RED FLAG! Does not sound like a safe family pet if you need a breakstick. “Since pit bulls have a strong fighting background, we recommend that pet owners also have a breaking stick as a precaution, even if they don’t plan to use it in an illegal context. However, please be discreet. Breaking sticks are not something to brag about and the general pubic might have the wrong impression if you walk around with a stick in your hand. Breaking sticks are not illegal, but they are considered dog fighting paraphernalia in certain states and/or with certain law enforcement agents. https://www.pbrc.net/breaksticks.html
I appreciate that ‘Pit bull Rescue Central,’ is telling pit-bull guardians not to take their dog to off-leash parks but many pit guardians are still very ignorant to this recommendation. What is bewildering to me is that Pit Bull Rescue Central admits that other beloved dogs in the community are not safe around pit-bulls because of their genetic makeup but promotes them as a great family pet. For me this is a red flag that you are compromising public safety and the safety of our beloved pets in our communities. These are powerful dogs that break away free from pit guardians all the time and then go maul or kill a beloved pet or a person. I do not consider that a safe family pet for our community. Of all the dog breeds, they are the all time number one killer of humans and other people’s beloved pets. https://www.dogsbite.org/dog-bite-statistics-fatalities-2014.php Children & adults have watched their beloved pets be mauled to death by pit bulls. Many develop PSTD after watching a horrific pit attack: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZTiGWgQubA Then these pit-bull advocates are oblivious and offended why people do not want these dogs in the neighborhood. REALLY? Are you really that blind? Do I really have to spell it out for you? Many people in the neighborhood have beloved pets that they consider family members. They are concerned for their pet’s safety and they do not want their dog to get mauled to death. Now people in the neighborhood who have pets have to live in fear if this powerful pitbull will get away from the guardian and hurt or kill their beloved pet. Almost all dog guardians have experience a mishap where their dog gets away from them by mistake.
That’s pit bull genetics. This is the favorite feature for pit bull dog owners. They enjoy the conflict, violence, and drama pit bulls create.
Really Gabriel?!?! Do you want to pull out the “criminal deviant pitbull owner card”?? I can give HUNDREDS of arguments to that comment! First off, I work in social services (actually with a vulnerable population of autistic adults, which REQUIRES me a extensive background check yearly with the FBI)! Now. Would you like to argue the countless people out there who are contributing members in their communities that are owners of a “vicious” breed?! This includes lawyers, police, teachers etc. Your blatant disrespect of responsible owners is irrepressible!!!!!!
Journal of Interpersonal Violence
Volume 21 Number 12 December 2006
Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors
Implications for Risk Assessment
“The analysis revealed that owners of HR (high risk) dogs had significantly more criminal convictions and traffic citations in all categories except crimes involving children.”
“Professionals such as child and adult protection investigators, law enforcement officers, pediatricians and medical practitioners, home visiting professionals, domestic violence investigators, and public health nurses may find it useful to be informed about the breed and specific behaviors of the dogs that share the environment with their clients. First, be aware that the dog breed, especially owning a Pit Bull, may be a risk marker.”
Is this peer reviewed or mishap junk as you stated my below article is??
Well, I know the national canine research council is a pit bull propaganda machine.
The problem with you study is that it is authored by the pit bull propaganda machine. I recall briefly reading that study you refer to. It is just a list of excuses and honestly accomplishes nothing except a diversion from the pit bull problem.
The study I refer to makes no excuses, merely compiles the data and reports the data, then makes a solid and concise conclusion based on the numbers.
Ownership of High-Risk (“Vicious”) Dogs as a Marker for Deviant Behaviors
Implications for Risk Assessment
Jaclyn E. Barnes
Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center, Ohio
Barbara W. Boat
University of Cincinnati, Ohio
Frank W. Putnam
Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center, Ohio
Harold F. Dates
Cincinnati Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, Ohio
Andrew R. Mahlman
Cincinnati Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, Ohio
https://www.paigemduke.com/2014/06/pitbullsagainsttimemagazine/. Of course this is propaganda
https://sarahspetcare.net/blog/pitbull-mythology-debunked/. Does your scientific research include demographics into the equation?! The study from 2006 looks at owners from Ohio. In the town I live in (Washington), I’m 99% more likely to be killed by a drunk driver than be attacked by a pitbull. Now if I lived in Ohio, or in a large inner city area, I’m sure these numbers would change. It’s simple really, areas with higher crime rates and a demographic of people who view their animals as “property” and who have a different cultural background, you WILL see a higher rate of deviency! But to categorize ALL owners to that standard is ludicrous!!!!!!
Julie, why in my 30+ years of ownership have I never used a break stick? Is it luck or responsible ownership? Just a question.
It’s pure luck. 😉
30+YEARS is “pure luck”? That is YOUR explanation? Are the hundreds of thousands of responsible owners going off of “luck ” as well? Because by a cultists or extremists view, the approximate age that a pitbull will “snap”, is at an approximate age of two years. Can you give me some retrospect on that theory?
Your comment, “30+ years of ownership have I never used a break stick?”
Sounds irresponsible to me when you admit to owning fighting breed dogs for 30+ years. At least dog fighters knew how to handle their pit dogs.
Gabriel, do you even READ your comments?!?! First off, I don’t OWN a “fighting dog”?!?! I own a DOG, yes…….. A DOG! I own a breed that posses a higher ” prey drive “than other breeds. Do I act accordingly? Yes, I do (which explains my stellar record)!! I ensure that proper precautions are in place if I have ANY questions in regards to my safety, my dogs safety or community safety. By the way Gabriel you never answered my question. What makes YOU an expert?!
I never said I was an “expert”. Apparently you think you are, you are not.
Your comment, “I own a breed that posses a higher ” prey drive “than other breeds.”
Prey drive is much more complicated than what you believe it to be. There are many other factors. Border Collies have high “prey drive”, but they are not killing humans. Hmmmmm.
Actually, a border collie gave my pitbull quite a nasty bite to the ear, which required MONTHS of rehabilitation (she still has trouble with it)! Comparing a border collie to a powerful breed of dog is like comparing a mechanic to a gynecologist!
Maybe if your pit bull didn’t try to kill it, it would have not have been bitten.
FYI, Border Collies can kill a small sheep. Not sure if it can kill a full grown one. They are not weak dogs, they are working dogs bred to herd.
That is the most assanine comments yet. Actually my dog was drinking from a bowl of water, and this little girl came up and her dog immediately latched on to my dog and wouldn’t let go! There is a ignorant and biased statement tenfold!
Your comment, “Actually my dog was drinking from a bowl of water, and this little girl came up and her dog immediately latched on to my dog and wouldn’t let go!”
If your pit dog didn’t attack the BC, it is a poor representative of the breed, a cur. BCs were bred to herd, the final stages of the predation sequence have been all but bred out of them. The only reason a BC should be killing anything is if it is hungry/starving.
I find it hard to believe a BC impulsively attacked your pit dog. It’s possible, but unlikely. Your mileage may vary. HUE HUE HUE
https://m.dogbreedinfo.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dogbreedinfo.com%2Fcurs.htm#2867. Maybe you should research your general information before throwing out definitions. A “cur” is a hunting dog. Generally mongral type, but firece. My dog is ANYTHING but “cur”. She is a well socialized UKC Purple Ribbon Registered APBT.
Really? Your pit bull fan pages say otherwise.
From ultimatepitbullforum com:
Would you breed a —> CUR <—?
Postby Erik » June 15th, 2012, 7:33 pm
Just for discussion, hypotheticaly speaking would you breed a pit bull that had it all (structure,temp,drive etc.) but curred out on another animal whether it be a hog or something else? Whether it be from hunting an accident or competition you knew he/she was just a flat out cur but was a perfect bulldog in all other categories, the best dog you had ever seen or owned up to then. Would you still breed it? If it had every title known to man through sport, would you still breed it?
Answer 1:
Would I breed a "cur"? I hope not. I'd hope I would not be in that position. However, there is also a difference between degrees of "cur" and "cold". I've seen dogs that do NOT want to start a fight, but will take care of themselves if attacked. Is that "cur"? I don't think so.
But taking the "family" thing to its logical conclusion, if a strong, game family produced a "cur", is it any worse to breed THAT dog than a "game" acting dog from a FAMILY of "curs"? Experienced breeders (of all animals) would tell you to go with the good family/bad individual over the good individual/bad family."
Answer 2:
No, I don't think so….from observing Am Stafs for a lot of years, I, in fact, have noticed that it's the relatively peaceful ones, the ones that DO have "dog friends, the ones that ARE easy to handle around other dogs — that are actually the hardest ones to shut down and are the bravest when they finally have to go into action.
Answer 3:
We had an American Bulldog at work like this. The sweetest dog in the world. Never ever started anything with anyone but if someone was out of line, he would throw down. It took a team of us to get him off the other dog. He would just hold on no matter what. I loved that dog. He was not a cur.
I have my doubts that your purple ribbon APBT is a match for their game bred trash.
Pit-Bull Rescue Central recommends as a precaution even if you think it will never use it. Is that so hard to understand? Think of it like fire extinguisher.
Pit-bull Rescue Central recommends this precaution for all pit guardians. Think of it as a fire extinguisher. It’s that so hard to understand?
Pit-bill Rescue Central recommends all pit guardians to have a break-stick as a precaution. Think of it as a fire extinguisher. Is that so hard to understand?
Hey General Public,
check out how nutters treat victims on the facebook page Foamer stalk. Also any pit advocate site. Its appalling. You’ll see why we call em nutters!
Actually Foamer Talk……but that was a GREAT Freudian slip! 🙂
Oh yeah, All things foamer too. Check out that page. Breeding hate.
Banaine, the same goes for anti propagandists. Look at some of the comments on “The pitbull propaganda machine revealed”, or a mirad of other anti satirical pitbull sites.
you love your children, never bring a pit bull into the home. They are sweet and loyal, BUT have a genetically bred instinct that can cause them to attack, bite hard, shake the victim until dead. While other breeds certainly can bite, no other breed is responsible for as many deaths of children, or as many serious maulings as the pit breeds. They were NEVER known as the nanny dog. That is a clever bit of propaganda created in the 1970s by a group of pit breeders trying to gain acceptance into the AKC. Some old pictures of children posing with pit bulls does not mean they were great around children. There are so very many tragedies concerning family pit bulls suddenly attacking a child- ending in death all too often. Don’t take that chance. But as usual they do,and then they’re the ones crying when tragedy strikes. So called” family” dogs are attacking as well. Don’t be ignorant to think every attack is from some thug who trained them that way. Many of these attacks came from people who were fed the stupid Nanny dog lie, who bought into that hey,these dogs are okay to have around my kids cause all the pro pit websites said so.
They were NEVER known as the nanny dog. That is a clever bit of propaganda created in the 1970s by a group of pit breeders trying to gain acceptance into the AKC. Some old pictures of children posing with pit bulls does not mean they were great around children. There are so very many tragedies concerning family pit bulls suddenly attacking a child- ending in death all too often. Don’t take that chance.
https://scorchedearththepoliticsofpitb.blogspot.com/2014/10/pit-bull-advocacy-is-still-trying-to.html
A new national survey commissioned by Best Friends Animal Society reveals that 84 percent of those polled believe that local, state or federal governments should not infringe on a person’s right to own whatever breed of dog they choose.
This survey*, conducted by Luntz Global, is consistent with a growing trend by many state and local governments that have repealed breed discriminatory provisions and enacted behavior-based, breed-neutral dangerous dog laws. Of the 850 polled, 59 percent were dog owners. Only four percent of those polled believed the federal government should dictate what breed of dog a person could own, while six percent supported state government restrictions and 11 percent local government limits.
Supporting the survey is the fact that 17 states have passed laws that prohibit cities and counties from banning or restricting dogs because of breed. Even the American Bar Association passed a Resolution 100 in August, 2012 calling for all political subdivisions to repeal breed discriminatory provisions.
“Pit bull” is not a breed, but a “type” that encompasses several registered breeds and crossbreeds. Therefore, statistics that claim “Pit bulls” are responsible for some percentage of attacks are lumping many separate breeds of dogs together, then comparing those statistics to other dogs that are counted as individual breeds. There are currently 25 breeds that are commonly considered a “pit bull”.
Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are human aggressive by nature.
Fact: Studies by the Center for Disease Control have proven that no one breed of dog is inherently vicious. The CDC supports the position that irresponsible owners, NOT breed, is the number one cause of dog bites.
Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are inherently vicious.
Fact: No more vicious than Golden Retrievers, Beagles, or other popular “family” dogs. In a recent testing done by The American Canine Temperament Testing Society (ATT), pit bulls achieved a passing rate of 83.9%, passing 4th from the highest of 122 breeds. That’s better than Beagles, passing at 78.2 and Golden Retrievers passing at 83.2%. The average passing rate for ALL breeds is 77%.
Myth: Pit Bulls or Pit Bull type dogs are responsible for most fatal dog attacks.
Fact: From 1965 – 2001, there have been at least 36 different breeds/types of dog that have been involved in a fatal attack in the United States. (This number rises to at least 52 breeds/types when surveying fatal attacks worldwide).
When dog bite statistics are taken into consideration versus the population, “Pit Bulls” come in at the BOTTOM of the list.
Registered Population
# of Reported Attacks
Breed
% vs. Population
Approx. 240,000 12 Chow Chow .005%
Approx. 800,000 67 German Shepherd .008375%
Approx. 960,000 70 Rottweiler .00729%
Approx. 128,000 18 Great Dane .01416%
Approx. 114,000 14 Doberman .012288%
Approx. 72,000 10 St. Bernard .0139%
Approx. 5,000,000 60 Pit Bulls .0012%
“No more vicious than Golden Retrievers, Beagles, or other popular “family” dogs.”
And again, pit bulls kill more than all other breeds combined. Any propaganda you wish to dispense can not hide this simple fact.
A “pit bull,” is defined as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one (1) or more of the above breeds, or any dog exhibiting those distinguishing characteristics which substantially conform to the standards established by the American Kennel Club or United Kennel Club for any of the above breeds. Dias v. City & County of Denver, 567 F.3d 1169, 1173 (10th Cir. Colo. 2009)
That propaganda is from Best Friends Animal Society, a determined and well funded pit bull advocacy group. Nice try dude.
Breed Typical Behavior in Dogs
Abstract
Dogs show considerable variation in morphology, genetics and behaviour caused by long periods of artificial selection. This is evident in the large number of breeds we have today. Behavioural differences among breeds have often been regarded as remnants from past selection during the breeds’ origin. However, the selection in many breeds has, during the last decades, gone through great changes, which could have influenced breed-typical behaviour. In order to investigate this, breed differences were studied using data from a standardized behavioural test from 13,097 dogs of 31 breeds from the Swedish dog population. Based on the test results, breed scores were calculated for four behavioural traits: playfulness, curiosity/fearlessness, sociability and aggressiveness. These traits have previously been found to be stable and valid, and hence regarded as personality traits in the dog. The present results suggested large differences between breeds in all of the investigated traits, even though there were within-breed variations. No relationships between breed-characteristic behaviour and function in the breeds’ origins were found. Instead, there were correlations between breed scores and current use of the breeding stocks, which suggest that selection in the recent past has affected breed-typical behaviour. The breeds’ use in dog shows, the dominating use in general, was negatively correlated with all investigated traits, both in sires and in dams. In contrast, use in Working dog trials was positively correlated with playfulness and aggressiveness in sires. Thus, these results suggest that selection for dog show use is positively correlated with social and non-social fearfulness, and negatively with playfulness, curiosity in potentially threatening situations and aggressiveness, whereas selection for Working dog use is positively correlated with playfulness and aggressiveness. Furthermore, correlation analyses show that popular breeds have higher sociability and playfulness scores than less popular breeds, suggesting that a positive attitude towards strangers is an important characteristic of a functional pet dog and desirable by dog owners. This indicates that selection towards use in dog shows may be in conflict with pet dog selection. Furthermore, these results suggest that basic dimensions of dog behaviour can be changed when selection pressure changes, and that the domestication of the dog still is in progress. A standardized behavioural test, like the one used in this study, is suggested to be highly useful as a tool in dog breeding programs.
“No relationships between breed-characteristic behaviour and function in the breeds’ origins were found. Instead, there were correlations between breed scores and current use of the breeding stocks, which suggest that selection in the recent past has affected breed-typical behaviour.”
Pit bulls kill more than all over breeds combined. There is something wrong or missing from the study.
https://colleenlynnqueennutter.blogspot.com.au/
OFFICIAL THE WHITE HOUSE RESPONSE TO
Ban and outlaw Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) in the United States of America on a Federal level!
Breed-Specific Legislation Is a Bad Idea
Thanks for your petition.
We don’t support breed-specific legislation — research shows that bans on certain types of dogs are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources.
In 2000, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention looked at twenty years of data about dog bites and human fatalities in the United States. They found that fatal attacks represent a very small proportion of dog bite injuries to people and that it’s virtually impossible to calculate bite rates for specific breeds.
The CDC also noted that the types of people who look to exploit dogs aren’t deterred by breed regulations — when their communities establish a ban, these people just seek out new, unregulated breeds. And the simple fact is that dogs of any breed can become dangerous when they’re intentionally or unintentionally raised to be aggressive.
For all those reasons, the CDC officially recommends against breed-specific legislation — which they call inappropriate. You can read more from them here.
As an alternative to breed-specific policies, the CDC recommends a community-based approach to prevent dog bites. And ultimately, we think that’s a much more promising way to build stronger communities of pets and pet owners.
Tell us what you think about this response and We the People
Why Is BSL Ineffective?
If an individual has a strong desire to train a dog to attack, no amount of BSL will stop that person. Golden Retrievers have been trained to seek out and attack human beings – the breed is not an issue, rather it is the lack of proper training/socialization and the dangerous practice of training dogs to be guard dogs (as opposed to watch dogs who are not trained to attack but merely ?watch?, as their name implies). Why are certain breeds more prevalent in dog attack statistics? Not because there are somehow more of those particular dogs existing but that more of the dogs are being owned by abusive or simply neglectful individuals who do not neuter their dogs, allow their animals to roam free and never socialize their animals, or who purchase their animal for the wrong reasons (ego).
The banning of specific breeds has been shown NOT to decrease the number of attacks or maulings. Why? Well, those same individuals who would have owned a Rottweiler or a Pit Bull are simply turning other breeds of dogs into killers. Other breeds simply replace the banned breeds as top maulers. Any dog can be trained to be aggressive towards humans and any dog that is not properly socialized can become dangerous. The list of organizations that are against BSL is staggering – they are reputable agencies and groups who realize that owners of dangerous dogs need to be held responsible but that no particular breed is more or less likely to possibly attack. Some of the agencies/organizations are: AKC (American Kennel Club), UKC (United Kennel Club), AVMA, CDC (Centers for Disease Control), ASPCA, SPCA?s, most Human Societies, most Animal Control Facilities, ADBA (American Dog Breeders Association), ADOA (American Dog Owners Association), most breeders and rescue groups as well as reconstructive surgeons for children whose groups have stated that a bite to the face of a child can be devastating REGARDLESS of the breed of dog who inflicted the wound.
Most Bans Affect Pit Bulls, but Other Breeds Can Be Included as Well.
Meanwhile, pit bulls score extremely high on temperament tests. According to the American Temperament Testing Society, Inc., the American Pit Bull Terrier achieved a passing rate of 86.8 percent (better than collies, golden retrievers, and beagles), which means they rank fourth highest of the 122 breeds tested.
Additionally, a “pit bull” isn’t even actually a breed. Instead, it’s a term used to describe a stockier type of terrier that includes the American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and mixes of the above.
Other breeds that can also be affected by BSL include American Bulldogs, Mastiffs, Dalmatians, Chow Chows, German Shepherds, Doberman Pinschers … even Chihuahuas and Shar Peis (or dogs that just look like any of the above).
Model Non-Breed-Specific Ordinances
Studies have shown that dog owner (mis)management is frequently the cause of dog bites. Dogs that are not properly socialized, trained, and contained are often implicated in dog bites. Furthermore, dogs have no control over their environment—but their owners do.
Consequently, dangerous dog laws should more properly be called dangerous dog owner laws, because the laws should focus on owner actions (and inactions) and owner responsibility (and irresponsibility). Dog owners are capable of—and should be held responsible for—safely controlling their dog, no matter what breed or type of dog they happen to own.
Following is a list of model dog control ordinances compiled from various sources, as cited.
Model Dog And Cat Control Ordinance (Appendix 2) and Model legislation for the identification and regulation of “dangerous” dogs (Appendix 4) from the American Veterinary Medical Association. Includes the following elements:
Model Dog and Cat Control Ordinance (Appendix 2)
Definitions
Licensing and Rabies Vaccination
Permits
Issuance and revocation of permits and licenses
Owner responsibility
Impoundment
Redemption
Adoption
Interference
Repeals
Severability
Applicability
Safety Clause
Model legislation for the identification and regulation of “dangerous” dogs (Appendix 4)
Actions allowed by authorized persons prior to hearing
Definitions
Hearing procedure
Requirements for owners of dogs deemed dangerous
Model Animal Control Law by National Animal Interest Alliance. A basic ordinance suitable for city or county level. Includes the following elements:
Definitions
Administration
Animal Control: Dogs
Animal Control: At-Risk Dogs
Animal Control: Dangerous Dogs
Animal Control: Cats
Animal Control: Exotic Animals
Animal Control Advisory Board
Cruelty, Abuse, and Neglect
Responding to the data: a guide to constructing successful pet-friendly ordinances by National Animal Interest Alliance. This goes hand-in-hand with the sample model animal control law and serves as a guide for those who wish to write their own legislation.
Proposed Dangerous Dog Act by the Association of Pet Dog Trainers. Suitable for state-level implementation. Interestingly, provides a scale by which a dog’s aggressive behavior can be measured to aid in the determination of dangerousness or viciousness. Includes the following elements:
Findings, Definitions, and General Provisions
Judicial Process
Severity Determination
Disposition of Potentially Dangerous or Vicious Dogs
Penalties
Miscellaneous
American Bar Association (ABA) urges repeal of all breed-specific laws
Posted on August 7, 2012 by admin
On Monday, August 6, 2012, the American Bar Association (ABA) House of Delegates, meeting at the 2012 ABA convention in Chicago, approved a resolution urging “all state, territorial, and local legislative bodies and governmental agencies [. . .] to repeal breed discriminatory or breed specific provisions.”
This comprehensive recommendation is accompanied by an extensive report detailing the legion of problems associated with breed specific regulation, including significant questions of due process; waste of government resources[i]; documented failure to produce safer communities[ii]; enforcement issues connected with identifying the dogs to be regulated or seized[iii]; and infringement of property rights.
The complete resolution and accompanying report can be read by clicking here.
The American Bar Association (ABA), founded in 1878, considers itself to be the world’s largest voluntary professional organization, with some 400,000 members. In addition to being dedicated to accrediting the nation’s law schools and providing practical resources for legal professionals, the ABA prides itself in working to improve the administration of justice.
In addition to urging repeal of all breed specific regulations, Resolution 100 endorses “breed-neutral dangerous dog/reckless owner laws that ensure due process protections for owners, encourage responsible pet ownership and focus on the behavior of both individual dog owner and dogs[.]“[iv]
With the passage of Resolution 100, the ABA adds its name to the long list of national organizations opposed to breed specific regulation, including the American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) and the National Animal Control Association (NACA), the association of animal services professionals charged with enforcing the nation’s animal ordinances.[v]
SOURCES: American Bar Association (ABA). Resolution 100. (August 2012). [Text of Adopted Resolution and Report] Accessed at: https://www.abanow.org/2012/06/2012am100/
Cassens-Weiss, Debra. Annual Meeting of the ABA House of Delegates. (August 6, 2010). Pit Bull Bias? ABA House OKs Resolution Urging Breed-Neutral Dog Laws. ABA Journal. Accessed at: https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/pit_bull_bias_aba_house_oks_resolution_urging_breed-neutral_dog_laws/
NOTES
[i] See: Best Friends Animal Society’s Breed Discriminatory Law (BDL) Fiscal Impact Calculator.
[ii] See these additional NCRC Commentaries, as well: The Worldwide Failure of Breed-specific Legislation; Denver: Selective Counting and the Cost to People and Pets; Maryland’s Experience: the Public Record and the Tracey v Solesky Ruling; Miami-Dade County: No Positive Results; Dog Breed-Specific Legislation: The Cost to people, pets and veterinarians, and the damage to the human-animal bond (AVMA Convention, July 11 – 14, 2009 Seattle, Washington), and Sioux City Breed Ban Misses the Mark. Additional commentaries are accessible here.
[iii] See also: A Comparison of Visual and DNA Identification of Breeds of Dogs, by Victoria L. Voith, PhD, DVM, DACVB. Published in Proceedings of Annual American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) Convention, July 11-14, 2009 Seattle, WA. (See also: Voith, V., Ingram, E., Mitsouras, K., & Irizarry, K. (July 2009). Comparison of Adoption Agency Identification and DNA Breed Identification of Dogs. Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science. 12(3). 253-262.) A poster illustrating the project, which was presented at ACVB/AVSAB July 2010 can be viewed here.
Also refer to “Dog breed identification is no basis for shelter policy,” an NCRC commentary on a study report and poster authored by Kimberly R. Olson, BS and Julie K. Levy, DVM, PhD, DACVIM, of the Maddie’s®Shelter Medicine Program, University of Florida and Bo Norby, CMV, MPVM, PhD, of the Department of Large Animal Clinical Sciences, Michigan State University. The poster can be viewed here.
[iv] See also NCRC’s ‘Responsible Pet Ownership’ information. Click here to open these webpages.
[v] See also CDC and AVMA statements on this subject by clicking here. Click here to view the NACA statement regarding breed-specific legislation (which can be read under the section heading ‘Extended Animal Control Concerns’).
Also see this NCRC report summarizing a recent AVMA Task Force Report (AVMA Animal Welfare Division. (17 April 2012) The Welfare Implications of the Role of Breed in Dog Bite Risk and Prevention.) for additional reference: ‘Pit Bull’ Regulation Not a Basis for Dog Bite Prevention.
AMERICAN CANINE FOUNDATION
DOES BREED SPECIFIC LEGISLATION REDUCE DOG BITES AND
FATALITIES ?
In analyzing nonfatal dog bite injuries we find an increase in serious injuries each year. A
study was done by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission and the Center for
Injury Prevention (view study here) which showed in 1994 that 333,700 patients were
treated for dog bites in emergency departments (EDs) and in 2001 there were 368,245
patients treated in EDS’s.
A study was done by the American Canine Foundation which shows that where breed
bans have been enacted dog bite incidents reports have increased. Based on current
dog data, banning ten breeds of dogs from a city will not reduce dog bites given the ratio
between mixed breeds compared to purebred dogs. Strong laws that penalize the
owners, regardless of the breed are what is needed.
These types of laws are valid, have merit and are not vague or capricious. ACF supports
laws that hold owners accountable for their dog’s behavior. Laws need to declare a dog
potentially dangerous when it menaces a human, or when they bite a human or
domestic animal. The owners need to be cited and placed under restrictions. A second
offense should automatically declare the dog dangerous and call for a misdemeanor
charge against the owner.
PROFESSIONAL OPINIONS SHOULD COUNT FOR SOMETHING.
Members of the National Animal Control Association, the ASPCA, the Association of Pet Dog Trainers, and many other canine welfare groups deal with aggressive dogs on a regular basis. So do these major animal organizations support breed-specific legislation? No. In fact, none of these professional groups do. Read their position statements and find out why not.
(alphabetic order)
American Bar Association (ABA)
American Dog Owners Association (ADOA)
American Humane
American Kennel Club (AKC)
American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA)
American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA)
American Working Dog Federation (AWDF)
Association of Pet Dog Trainers (APDT)
Best Friends Animal Society
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)
Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)
International Assocation of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC)
International Association of Canine Professionals (IACP)
National Animal Control Association (NACA)
National Animal Interest Alliance (NAIA)
National Association of Dog Obedience Instructors (NADOI)
Draft Policy on Dangerous Dog Strategies and Breed Specific Legislation (BSL)
Animal Aid supports the creation of evidence based regulatory policy.
While enforcing the enacted legislation, Animal Aid would seek to replace Breed related legislation aimed at reducing dog bite statistics on the grounds that:
• BSL does not reduce the number of dog bites.
• BSL does not address the number of bites that arise from other breeds and cross-breeds.
• BSL ignores the fact that there may be highly sociable and well adjusted individuals in any breed.
• The identification of Pitbull Terriers (the breed under scrutiny at present) and other banned breeds from visual standards cannot be determined with complete relaibility.
The Facts
• Studies have shown that BSL has not reduced bites in the UK (Klaassen, Buckley, & Esmail, 1996), Germany (Schalke, Ott, & von Gaertner, 2008; Ott, Schalke, von Gaertner, & Hackbarth, 2008) or the Netherlands (Cornelissen & Hopster, 2010) and BSL has been repealed in Germany and the Netherlands. Only one study supports the effectiveness of BSL and that incorporated many other strong initiatives to promote responsible ownership (Villalbi et al., 2010).
• Incontestably identifying a ‘restricted breed’ dog is currently impossible. Visual determinations of breed made by a Victorian government appointed ‘breed panel’ of experts was overturned by legal challenge.
• There are no definitive objective criteria, such as a DNA test, to identify a Pitbull Terrier.
• The Division of Local Government in NSW reports that in 2005 only 1-2% of attacking dogs were identified as restricted breeds i.e. 98% were not. The percentage of bites attributable to restricted breed dogs has been steadily decreasing (0.06% in 2008 and 0.2% in 2009). Therefore, BSL could only ever be expected to reduce the number dog bites by a very small amount.
• Any breed of dog breed can bite regardless of breed. The challenge is identifying which one is likely to do so before they actually do it. Recommendations
• Identifying strategies that work elsewhere and implementing them. For example, Calgary, Canada has reduced dog bites and shelter euthanasia; increased desexing and regulatory compliance without BSL or mandating desexing. Incidentally, Calgary has a very high population of Pitbull Terriers
(see https://www.petsmartcharities.org/resources/the-calgary-model-for-success.html).
• Develop the ability to identify individual dogs that have a propensity to bite, regardless of species by establishing if there are genetic markers of canine aggression.
• Provision of widespread, low-cost dog training targeting problematic and anti-social behaviour to proactively prevent issues developing.
• Development of validated assessments for good temperament and only breeding with dogs that have passed such tests to reduce aggression. While all dogs have the ability to bite, the risk is mediated by the size and sociability of the dog, genetic factors, specific breed characteristics (which are the focus of current attention) and owner responsibility. The Calgary experience indicates that owner responsibility is the key variable. Animal Aid believes that society’s interests are best served by moving away from BSL and using a combination of strategies to reduce dog bites including rewarding responsible owners who register, socialise and train their dogs while rigorously enforcing registration requirements and owner liability for the offences that their dog’s commit. Reference List
Cornelissen, J. M. & Hopster, H. (2010). Dog bites in The Netherlands: a study of victims, injuries, circumstances and aggressors to support evaluation of breed specific legislation. Veterinary Journal, 186, 292-298.
Klaassen, B., Buckley, J. R., & Esmail, A. (1996). Does the dangerous dogs act protect against animal attacks: a prospective study of mammalian bites in the accident and emergency department. Injury, 27, 89-91.
Ott, S. A., Schalke, E., von Gaertner, A. M., & Hackbarth, H. (2008). Is there a difference? Comparison of golden retrievers and dogs affected by breed-specific legislation regarding aggressive behavior. Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 3, 134-140. Schalke, E., Ott, S. A., & von Gaertner, A. M. (2008). Is breed-specific legislation justified? Study of the results of the temperament test of Lower Saxony . Journal of Veterinary Behavior: Clinical Applications and Research, 3, 97-103.
Villalbi, J. R., Cleries, M., Bouis, S., Peracho, V., Duran, J., & Casas, C. (2010). Decline in hospitalisations due to dog bite injuries in Catalonia, 1997-2008. An effect of government regulation? Inj.Prev., 16, 408-410.
ARAGON, SPAIN
Spain passed the Dangerous Animals Act in 2000, placing restrictions on nine breeds of dogs and dogs possessing “characteristics” of those breeds. A scientific study analyzing dog bites reported to the Aragon health department during a five year period before the Act was passed (1995 to 1999) and the five year period after passage (2000 to 2004) found that there was no significant difference in the number of dog bites in Spain before or after the Dangerous Animals Act passed.
Furthermore, the study found that the most popular breeds (none of which were targeted by the legislation) were responsible for the most bites both before and after passage of the BSL. The targeted breeds accounted for a very small portion of bites both before and after passage of the BSL. The scientists concluded that there was no rational basis for Spain’s BSL.
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Background
Despite the well-established strength of the human-animal bond (Wensley, 2008), exemplified by the nearly 74 million dogs kept as companion animals in the United States, coexistence is not always peaceful. In the U.S., approximately 334,000 people visit emergency rooms annually for dog bites (Bradley, 2006), with an additional unknown number of individuals incurring other dog bite-related injuries (e.g., breaking a bone while fleeing a threatening dog) (AVMA, 2001). Notwithstanding relative stability in the number of dog bites over time (Bradley, 2006), and the fact that according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) only two percent of those seeking emergency room treatment for dog bites each year are actually hospitalized (CDC WISQARS), some communities have enacted laws that intensively regulate or even ban certain dog breeds in an effort to decrease dog attacks on humans (AVMA, 2001). Often, such laws are responses to a particularly violent individual dog attack or, as some hypothesize, result from media campaigns that negatively portray a particular breed (Capp, 2004). However, the theory underlying breed-specific laws—that some breeds bite more often and cause more damage than others, ergo laws targeting these breeds will decrease bite incidence and severity—has not met with success in practice. To understand the ASPCA’s opposition to such laws, it is critical to examine what is known about which dogs bite and why, which dogs are most dangerous, and the impact of breed-specific laws to date.
The CDC strongly recommends against breed-specific laws in its oft-cited study of fatal dog attacks, noting that data collection related to bites by breed is fraught with potential sources of error (Sacks et al., 2000). Specifically, the authors of this and other studies cite the inherent difficulties in breed identification (especially among mixed-breed dogs) and in calculating a breed’s bite rate given the lack of consistent data on breed population and the actual number of bites occurring in a community, especially when the injury is not deemed serious enough to require treatment in an emergency room (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001; Collier, 2006). Supporting the concern regarding identification, a recent study noted a significant discrepancy between visual determination of breed and DNA determination of breed (Voith et al., 2009).
A variety of factors may affect a dog’s tendency toward aggression; these include heredity, early experience, socialization and training, sex and reproductive status (Lockwood, 1999). For example, intact males constitute 80 percent of all dogs presented to veterinary behaviorists for what formerly has been described as dominance aggression, are involved in 70 to 76 percent of reported dog bite incidents, and are 2.6 times more likely to bite than neutered dogs, while unspayed females “attract free-roaming males, which increases bite risk to people through increased exposure to unfamiliar dogs,” and “contribute to the population of unwanted” and potentially aggressive dogs (Gershman et al., 1993; Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001). Chaining and tethering also appear to be risk factors for biting (Gershman et al., 1993), and programs that target tethering have proven effective in reducing bite rates (Sacks et al., 2000; AVMA, 2001). Other factors implicated in dog aggression are selective breeding and raising of dogs for elevated aggression, whether for protection, use in dog fighting competitions, social status or financial gain (Bradley, 2006); abuse and neglect (Delise, 2007); and inadequate obedience training and supervision (Shuler et al., 2008).
Breed-specific laws must also be evaluated from a welfare perspective. Although intended to improve community safety and comfort, ultimately these laws can cause hardship to responsible guardians of properly supervised, friendly, well-socialized dogs. In some localities, the list of banned breeds includes not just American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Bull Terriers and Rottweilers, but also a variety of other breeds, including American Bull Dogs, Mastiffs, Dalmatians, Chow Chows, German Shepherd Dogs, Doberman Pinschers and any mix of these breeds. Although guardians of these dogs may have done nothing to endanger the public, they nevertheless may be required to choose between compliance with onerous regulations or forfeiture of their beloved companions, and may even be required to forfeit their companions outright. In Prince George’s County, Maryland, where Pit Bull Terriers are banned, the Animal Management Division reports that 80 percent of the approximately 500 to 600 animals seized and killed by animal control every year under the ban are “nice, family dogs” (Taylor, 2009).
Even laws that ostensibly are only regulatory may impose a de facto ban on a breed, creating a climate where it is nearly impossible for residents to live with such breed, and virtually ensuring destruction of otherwise adoptable dogs by shelters and humane societies. In Ohio, due to a state law that classifies all pit bulls as “vicious” and imposes various requirements on their guardians, pit bull guardians have great difficulty locating housing and obtaining homeowners’ or renters’ liability insurance, and most Ohio shelters have a pit bull non-adoption policy. The consequences have been disastrous: while in 1996, 101 Ohio animal control agencies reported handling 2,141 dogs deemed to be pit bulls, in 2004, 68 agencies reported handling 8,834 such dogs, of whom only 1,425 (16 percent) were reclaimed by their original guardians or adopted by new ones, and 7,409 (84 percent) were killed (Lord et al., 2006). In addition, dogs outside a targeted breed may become “collateral damage” of breed-specific laws. The Prince George’s County pit bull ban places significant pressure on the county shelter, which has limited space and yet must hold pit bulls during the pendency of lengthy legal proceedings. As a result, the shelter has had to euthanize hundreds of otherwise adoptable dogs of many different breeds due to lack of space, and has suffered decreased adoption rates because there are so few dogs available (Taylor, 2004).
Perhaps the most harmful unintended consequence of breed-specific laws is their tendency to compromise rather than enhance public safety. As certain breeds are regulated, individuals who exploit aggression in dogs are likely to turn to other, unregulated breeds (Sacks et al., 2000). Following enactment of a 1990 pit bull ban in Winnipeg, Canada, Rottweiler bites increased dramatically (Winnipeg reported bite statistics, 1984-2003). By contrast, following Winnipeg’s enactment of a breed-neutral dangerous dog law in 2000, pit bull bites remained low and both Rottweiler and total dog bites decreased significantly (Winnipeg reported bite statistics, 1984-2003). In Council Bluffs, Iowa, Boxer and Labrador Retriever bites increased sharply and total dog bites spiked following enactment of a pit bull ban in 2005 (Barrett, 2007).
Also of concern is the possibility that guardians of regulated or banned breeds will be driven “underground…making criminals of otherwise law-abiding people” and deterring them from seeking routine veterinary care, including having their dogs inoculated against rabies. In this regard, it is worth noting that whereas rabies currently kills one or two Americans annually and in some years none, up until the mid-twentieth century it killed approximately one hundred Americans annually. Worldwide, rabies currently kills approximately 55,000 people a year, “ninety-nine percent [of whom] are estimated to have contracted the disease from domestic dogs” (Bradley 2006).
Are Breed-Specific Laws Effective?
There is no evidence that breed-specific laws—which are costly and difficult to enforce—make communities safer for people or companion animals. For example, Prince George’s County, MD, spends more than $250,000 annually to enforce its ban on Pit Bulls. In 2003, a study conducted by the county on the ban’s effectiveness noted that “public safety is not improved as a result of [the ban],” and that “there is no transgression committed by owner or animal that is not covered by another, non-breed specific portion of the Animal Control Code (i.e., vicious animal, nuisance animal, leash laws).”
Following a thorough study of human fatalities resulting from dog bites, the United States Centers for Disease Control (CDC) decided not to support BSL. The CDC cited, among other problems, the inaccuracy of dog bite data and the difficulty in identifying dog breeds (especially true of mixed-breed dogs). The CDC also noted the likelihood that as certain breeds are regulated, those who exploit dogs by making them aggressive will replace them with other, unregulated breeds.
ASPCA Position
Although multiple communities have been studied where breed-specific legislation has been enacted, no convincing data indicates this strategy has succeeded anywhere to date (Klaassen et al., 1996; Ott et al., 2007; Rosado, 2007). Conversely, studies can be referenced that evidence clear, positive effects of carefully crafted, breed-neutral laws (Bradley, 2006). It is, therefore, the ASPCA’s position to oppose any state or local law to regulate or ban dogs based on breed. The ASPCA recognizes that dangerous dogs pose a community problem requiring serious attention. However, in light of the absence of scientific data indicating the efficacy of breed-specific laws, and the unfair and inhumane targeting of responsible pet guardians and their dogs that inevitably results when these laws are enacted, the ASPCA instead favors effective enforcement of a combination of breed-neutral laws that hold reckless dog guardians accountable for their dogs’ aggressive behavior. Ideally, a breed-neutral approach should include the following:
Enhanced enforcement of dog license laws, with adequate fees to augment animal control budgets and surcharges on ownership of unaltered dogs to help fund low-cost pet sterilization programs in the communities in which the fees are collected. To ensure a high licensing rate, Calgary, Canada—its animal control program funded entirely by license fees and fines—imposes a $250 penalty for failure to license a dog over three months of age (Calgary Responsible Pet Ownership Bylaw, 2006).
Laws that mandate the sterilization of shelter animals, ideally before adoption, and make low-cost sterilization services widely available. (See ASPCA Position Statement on Mandatory Spay/Neuter Laws, 2008[link])
Enhanced enforcement of leash/dog-at-large laws, with adequate penalties to ensure that the laws are taken seriously and to augment animal control funding.
Dangerous dog laws that are breed-neutral and focus on the behavior of the individual guardian and dog (taking care to ensure that common puppy behaviors such as jumping up, rough play and nipping are not deemed evidence of dangerousness). Graduated penalties should include mandated sterilization and microchipping (or other permanent identification) of dogs deemed dangerous, and options for mandating muzzling, confinement, adult supervision, training and owner education. In aggravated circumstances—such as where the dog seriously injures or kills a person, or a qualified behaviorist who has personally evaluated the dog determines that the dog poses a substantial risk of such behavior—euthanasia may be justified. In Multnomah County, Oregon, a breed-neutral ordinance imposing graduated penalties on dogs and guardians according to the seriousness of the dog’s behavior has reduced repeat injurious bites from 25 percent to seven percent (Bradley, 2006).
Laws that hold dog guardians financially accountable for a failure to adhere to animal control laws, as well as civilly and criminally liable for unjustified injuries or damage caused by their dogs. Calgary, Canada, has reduced reported incidents of aggression by 56 percent and its bite incidents by 21 percent by requiring guardians of dogs who have displayed aggression to dogs or to humans to pay fines ranging from $250 to $1500 (Calgary Responsible Pet Ownership Bylaw, 2006).
Laws that prohibit chaining or tethering (taking care also to prohibit unreasonable confinement once a dog is removed from a chain), coupled with enhanced enforcement of animal cruelty and animal fighting laws. Lawrence, Kansas, significantly reduced dog fighting and cruelty complaints by enacting an ordinance prohibiting tethering a dog for more than one hour (Belt, 2006).
Further, the ASPCA supports a community-based approach to resolving the reckless guardian/dangerous dog question whereby all stakeholders—animal control, animal shelters, medical and veterinary professionals, civic groups, teachers, public officials—collectively identify an appropriate dog bite prevention strategy. Central to this model is an “advisory council or task force representing a wide spectrum of community concerns and perspectives” whose members review available dog bite data, current laws, and “sources of ineffectiveness” and recommend realistic and enforceable policy, coupled with outreach to the media and educational efforts directed at those in regular contact with “dog owners and potential victims” (e.g., medical and veterinary professionals, animal control/shelters, teachers) (AVMA, 2001).
In summary, the ASPCA advocates the implementation of a community dog bite prevention program encompassing media and educational outreach in conjunction with the enactment, and vigorous enforcement, of breed-neutral laws that focus on the irresponsible and dangerous behavior of individual guardians and their dogs. The ASPCA believes that this approach—promoting education in the appropriate care, training and supervision of dogs as well as state and local laws that address licensing, reproductive status, chaining/improper confinement, cruel treatment and at-large dogs; imposing civil and criminal liability on guardians for their negligent and reckless behavior; and targeting problematic dogs and guardians early with progressively escalating penalties—constitutes the most compassionate, fair, efficient and ultimately effective means of resolving concerns related to dangerous dogs in the community.
What’s the Alternative to Breed-Specific Laws?
In the aforementioned study, the CDC noted that many other factors beyond breed may affect a dog’s tendency toward aggression—things such as heredity, sex, early experience, reproductive status, socialization and training. These last two concerns are well-founded, given that:
More than 70 percent of all dog bite cases involve unneutered male dogs.
An unneutered male dog is 2.6 times more likely to bite than is a neutered dog.
A chained or tethered dog is 2.8 times more likely to bite than a dog who is not chained or tethered.
97 percent of dogs involved in fatal dog attacks in 2006 were not spayed/neutered:
78 percent were maintained not as pets, but rather for guarding, image enhancement, fighting or breeding.
84 percent were maintained by reckless owners—these dogs were abused or neglected, not humanely controlled or contained, or allowed to interact with children unsupervised.
Recognizing that the problem of dangerous dogs requires serious attention, the ASPCA seeks effective enforcement of breed-neutral laws that hold dog owners accountable for the actions of their animals.
For help in drafting animal control laws, contact the ASPCA’s Government Relations department at lobby@aspca.org.
What’s Wrong with Breed-Specific Laws?
BSL carries a host of negative and wholly unintended consequences:
Dogs go into hiding
Rather than give up their beloved pets, owners of highly regulated or banned breeds often attempt to avoid detection of their “outlaw” dogs by restricting outdoor exercise and socialization and forgoing licensing, microchipping and proper veterinary care, including spay/neuter surgery and essential vaccinations. Such actions have implications both for public safety and the health of these dogs.
Good owners and dogs are punished
BSL also causes hardship to responsible owners of entirely friendly, properly supervised and well-socialized dogs who happen to fall within the regulated breed. Although these dog owners have done nothing to endanger the public, they are required to comply with local breed bans and regulations unless they are able to mount successful (and often costly) legal challenges.
They impart a false sense of security
Breed-specific laws have a tendency to compromise rather than enhance public safety. When limited animal control resources are used to regulate or ban a certain breed of dog, without regard to behavior, the focus is shifted away from routine, effective enforcement of laws that have the best chance of making our communities safer: dog license laws, leash laws, animal fighting laws, anti-tethering laws, laws facilitating spaying and neutering and laws that require all owners to control their dogs, regardless of breed.
They may actually encourage ownership by irresponsible people
If you outlaw a breed, then outlaws are attracted to that breed. Unfortunately some people take advantage of the “outlaw” status of their breed of choice to bolster their own self image as living outside of the rules of mainstream society. Ironically, the rise of Pit Bull ownership among gang members and others in the late 1980’s coincided with the first round of breed-specific legislation
AURORA, CO
Aurora passed a breed ban on “pit bulls” and seven rarer breeds (e.g. Dogo Argentinos) effective 2006. The most recent statistics from Aurora demonstrate that the annual total of dog bites, including severe dog bites, has not decreased. The bites are primarily inflicted by non-banned breeds and types of dogs. Statistics also indicate that severe bites have not decreased, and non-banned breeds of dogs have been overwhelmingly responsible for those—putting lie to the oft-repeated claim that banning “pit bulls” reduces severe bites.
Perplexingly, after passing their ban, Aurora changed the way they tally dog bites—along with some other poor data collection procedures that make their numbers extremely difficult to compare from year to year. In 2011 discussions about the breed ban, city officials carefully ignored the city’s collected data on dog bites; possibly this was due to the data’s flaws, but more likely, the numbers were just plain embarrassing. The data shows that citizens of Aurora are no safer from dog bites today than they were before the breed ban was instituted.
New Study Confirms Preventable Factors in Dog Bites, Breed Not Relevant
As advocates, we are all too familiar with the dog bite fatality report that was published in 2000 titled “Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998.” This data set has been used incessantly to support breed discriminatory laws, even though the authors of this report themselves have made several statements explaining why the report does NOT support these ineffective and costly laws. This data set was based mostly on unreliable media reports and its authors concluded that their research did not support the idea that one kind of dog was more likely to bite someone than another kind of dog. Nevertheless, proponents of discriminatory laws have pointed to this data set to support their positions.
This was the only study of its kind, until earlier this month when the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) published the “Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite–related fatalities in the United States (2000–2009).” The objective of the study was to “examine potentially preventable factors in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRFs) on the basis of data from sources that were more complete, verifiable, and accurate than media reports used in previous studies.” Instead of relying on news accounts like in the previous study, the researchers used reports by homicide detectives and animal control agencies, and interviews with investigators.
The study found that the major factors in the fatalities studied include: the absence of an able-bodied person to intervene (87.1%), incidental or no familiar relationship of victims with dogs (85.2%), owner failure to neuter dogs (84.4%), compromised ability of victims to interact appropriately with dogs (77.4%), dogs kept isolated from regular positive human interactions versus family dogs (76.2%), owners’ prior mismanagement of dogs (37.5%), and owners’ history of abuse or neglect of dogs (21.1%). Four or more of these factors were present in over 80% of the dog bite related deaths. Considering that over 75% of dog bite related deaths were caused by resident dogs (a dog not kept as a family pet, but isolated from positive human interactions and usually kept for protection and/or chained outside), reducing this practice is a huge factor in preventing dog bites, as is neutering male dogs.
Most dog bite related fatalities had the above preventable factors in common, but no where was breed found to be a factor. The authors of this new report found that breed could not be reliably identified in over 80% of the cases, as news reports often differed from each other or from animal control reports
Dog behavior experts have been recommending prevention techniques based on improved ownership practices, such as learning to read and understand dog behavior signals, teaching children how to safely interact with dogs, and providing dogs with proper socialization and veterinary care, for decades. Now, we have a JAVMA article in support of these practices. We all want to live in safe communities, and focusing our animal control laws on the preventable factors identified, is the road to get there.
To read more about this study from the National Canine Research Council, click here.
The full citation for the report is:
Gary J. Patronek, Jeffrey J. Sacks, Karen M. Delise, Donald V. Cleary, and Amy R. Marder. Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite–related fatalities in the United States (2000–2009). Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, December 15, 2013, Vol. 243, No. 12 , Pages 1726-1736. (doi: 10.2460/javma.243.12.1726)
BREED SPECIFIC Legislation was dealt a savage blow last week in an historic victory for American campaigners when the Supreme Court in Alabama ruled that there was no genetic evidence that one breed of dog was more dangerous than another, simply because of its breed.
Around the world, anti-BSL campaigners are rejoicing at the ruling that drew on evidence provided by genuine canine experts, which was favoured by the judges over subjective evidence, put forward by veterinarians and politicians. The court ruling and the evidence used may now be legitimately used to fight BSL in other countries such as Germany and Australia, as well as other US States. In the UK, the Dangerous Dogs Act could possibly be open to a direct legal challenge in the same way.
The action in Alabama was brought by the Washington Animal Foundation (WAF) against the city of Huntsville, which had claimed that American Pit Bull Terriers were ‘genetically dangerous’. The case centered on four Pit Bulls held in an animal shelter and adopted by three local women. The dogs were survivors of a group of over 50 Pit Bulls seized in a raid on a dog-fighting ring in April 2000. Half of the dogs died from injuries or disease, whilst the reminder –including four puppies – were held at the City pound and put up for adoption.
Shelia Tack, an emergency room nurse at Crestwood Hospital, adopted two of the puppies that she named Justice and Elizabeth. Whilst they remained impounded, she visited them twice a week. The other puppies, David and Nellie, were adopted by Kay Nagel, a military officer’s wife and resident of Redstone Arsenal, and Loyce Fisher, a civil service worker from Cullman. However, the City Council refused to release the dogs, stating that they were a potential danger to human beings, although none had apparently displayed any aggression.
The matter was referred to court for a legal decision on the dogs’ fate. During a hearing last year, lawyers representing the city, Michael Fees and Greg Burgess, told Madison County Circuit Judge Joe Battle the animals were vicious and should not be rehomed. The Women, who did not have a lawyer, argued the animals were never trained to fight and conditioning can suppress any vicious tendencies the dogs might have.
Judge Battle agreed and on Nov 13 2001, declared the four young Pit Bulls were not dangerous because they were never trained to fight. The court allowed the city to destroy 21 adult Pit Bulls which had been used for fighting. However, the City appealed Battle’s ruling to the Alabama Supreme Court and asked the court for an order preventing the women from taking custody of the dogs. At this point, Seattle-based WAF became involved in the case and appointed Huntsville lawyer Mike Seibert to fight their case, based on evidence they gathered to counter the City lawyer’s claims that all Pit Bulls were ‘genetically dangerous’.
The foundation hired veterinarian Dr. Alan Jones of Hazel Green to examine the dogs. But the officers at the shelter do not allow anyone to have physical contact with the pit bulls, even vet Jones. “They looked fat and happy,” he said. “They seemed starved for attention and not aggressive at all” Glen Bui, spokesman for WAF told a local newspaper that the dogs should be released. “I believe that the City of Huntsville is wasting thousands of taxpayers’ dollars attempting to destroy innocent dogs that were already given by the circuit court to the three women,’ he said. WAF filed an Amicus (third party) submitting genetic proof that Pit Bulls are not dangerous. The city of Huntsville were backed by the extremist animal rights organisation PETA that Pit Bulls were genetically dangerous, with evidence provided by veterinarians, none of whom was an expert in any specific canine or genetical field.
WAF cited case laws under Due Process of the law, and stated that it was unconstitutional to rule a specific breed of dog as ‘dangerous’ in this way. They also claimed it was ‘genocide’ to try to eradicate the Pit Bull breed. WAF submitted evidence to the Supreme Court that they were able to provide: Identification of expert treatises regarding the genetics of the breed in question Testing and studies regarding genetics verses environment as the catalyst for a specific dog breed’s aggression
Social contributions made by the American Pit Bull Terrier (i.e. as Assistance Dogs, Search and Rescue Dogs etc.) The associations brief assisted the court as it had substantial knowledge concerning the issue before the court
The briefs filed by the City were insufficient to adequately address the far reaching issues involving genetic breed bias The Foundation read all briefs and believed that innocent pet owners and innocent pets were not represented by either brief. WAF co-founder Glen Bui told OUR DOGS this week: “The court granted WAF’s petition and allowed us 7 days to file amicus curiae. Myself along with Attorney Mike Seibert worked on the amicus long hours into the night, while WAF members Kay Nagel and Sheila Tack proofread and added input. It was finished with less than one hour before the deadline to file and Shelia raced to the US post office and sent it certified mail.
”Huntsville’s entire case rested on affidavits from veterinarians claiming they examined the four Pit Bull pups and that were would pose a danger to the community because Pit Bulls are genetically dangerous. They also claimed the women had no legal right to adopt the pups, this was also addressed in the amicus brief.”
On Friday, August 30, the Supreme Court ruled 7-2 in WAF’s favour and ordered that the dogs should be released for adoption, accepting the evidence put forward by WAF that no breed of dog is genetically dangerous.
“This is fantastic news,” said Bui. “The city could appeal against the ruling, but I’d like to think they’ll give way and release the dogs to their new owners so that they can enjoy a good life. Two of them will be trained as Search and Rescue Dogs; the other two will become pets. The Pit Bulls have been evaluated and temperament tested before they are released, they are being spayed and neutered. The city did tell the media that the dogs would be released, so let’s hope they keep their word.”
Bui also told OUR DOGS this week: “For years the American Pit Bull Terrier has been alleged to be dangerous because of its genetics. Never has WAF found any genetic research proving that. When we were asked by three Huntsville women for help, they told us nobody else would help them, they had contacted everyone who fights BSL. We knew the women had to face the Supreme Court and this was a very serious case. We knew we had the genetic proof that no breed of dog is dangerous.
“We knew we also had statistics which proved the APBT has one of the best temperaments out of 185 dog breeds along with a strong legal defence. Being aware that never in the past had anyone ever argued the point, after contemplating the outcome if the women lost, I decided to bring WAF into the case, on the last day before the deadline for filing briefs in the Supreme Court WAF petitioned for Amicus Curiae.
”This case set a standard for future cases concerning BSL and genetics. We put several years of research into genetics and due process. We will use the statistics in Ohio; we have received assistance from state agencies in Ohio to investigate the Lucas County Dog Warden rulings on BSL in that State, as Ohio is totally BSL-controlled. Dog owners in Ohio really could use support right now. ”It was a long battle and now we have proved the American Pit Bull terrier is not genetically dangerous.”
© Nick Mays/Our Dogs Newspaper, 2002
Britain introduced the Dangerous Dogs Act in 1991, outlawing several breeds of dogs including types of pit bull, and thousands were impounded and put down. The law was changed in 1997 to give the courts discretion to allow a dog with a good temperament and that posed no danger to the public to be kept subject to tight restrictions.
However, with dog attacks still a significant problem there and countries such as the Netherlands and Italy having repealed their breed-specific legislation, there is now a debate about what should be done in Britain.
Lord Redesdale, who spoke to The Age from London, introduced a private member’s bill proposing to remove the emphasis on selected breeds and introducing greater punishments for irresponsible owners. However, without the support of the British government the bill is doomed to failure, but Lord Redesdale believes the publicity would encourage a rethink of the legislation.
Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/victoria/good-dog-bad-dog-20111206-1oh1q.html#ixzz391DTxMuX
Legal Challenges
Rally in front of the Ontario Legislative Building in Toronto supporting repeal of breed-specific legislation in Ontario
In Cochrane v. Ontario (Attorney General), 2007 CanLII 9231 (ON S.C.), Ms. Catherine Cochrane sued the Province of Ontario to prevent it from enforcing the Dog Owner’s Liability Act (DOLA) ban on pit bull-type dogs, arguing that the law was unconstitutionally broad because the ban was grossly disproportionate to the risk pit bulls pose to public safety, and that the law was unconstitutionally vague because failed to provide an intelligible definition of pit bulls. She also argued that a provision allowing the Crown to introduce as evidence a veterinarian’s certificate certifying that the dog is a pit bull violates the right to a fair trial and the presumption of innocence.
The presiding judge ruled that the DOLA was not overbroad because,
“The evidence with respect to the dangerousness of pit bulls, although conflicting and inconclusive, is sufficient, in my opinion, to constitute a ‘reasoned apprehension of harm’. In the face of conflicting evidence as to the feasibility of less restrictive means to protect the public, it was open to the legislature to decide to restrict the ownership of all pit bulls.”[25]
The presiding judge found the term “a pit bull terrier” was unconstitutionally vague since it could include an undefined number of dogs similar to the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Staffordshire Bull Terrier.[25] The judge also ruled that the government’s ability to introduce a veterinarian’s certificate certifying that the dog is a pit bull created a mandatory presumption that the dog was a pit bull, and that this placed an unconstitutional burden of proof upon the defendant.[25]
Ms. Cochrane and the Attorney General of Ontario appealed different aspects of the decision to the Court of Appeal for Ontario.[26] In Cochrane v. Ontario (2008 ONCA 718), the Court of Appeal reversed the lower court’s ruling:
It agreed with the lower court judge in finding that the “overbreadth” claim failed because the legislature had acted on a “reasonable apprehension of harm.”
It disagreed that the definition of pit bull in the Act was insufficiently precise and restored the original wording of “pit bull terrier” on the basis that, when read in the context of “a more comprehensive definition,” the phrasing “a pit bull terrier” was sufficiently precise.
It reversed the trial court and found that the government’s ability to introduce a veterinarian’s certificate certifying a dog was a pit bull would constitute proof only if the defendant failed to answer the claim: it was therefore a tactical burden, rather an evidentiary burden.[27]
On June 11, 2009 the Supreme Court of Canada declined to hear further appeal of the case, thereby upholding the Ontario ban on pit bulls.[26]
Read more: https://www.answers.com/topic/breed-specific-legislation#ixzz2qN8YpmQA
Breed-specific legislation has been introduced in many countries, including Ireland, Germany and many US states. There are five types of dogs prohibited from being imported into Australia, of which only pit bulls and the Perro de Presa Canario are known to be in the country.
The current debate revolves around those who believe pit bulls and similar types of dogs are inherently dangerous, and must be removed from society, and those who believe dogs of any breed can be dangerous depending on how they have been reared, and whether they have been trained to be aggressive.
Those who argue the latter say targeting certain types of dogs does not reduce dog attacks because those who want an aggressive or ”status” dog will simply train another large breed.
”I think it’s important that we don’t allow it to become simplistically about an animal that has an appearance of being a pit bull terrier and if we get rid of them we’re going to make the community safer,” says Susan Maastricht, the Victorian branch president of the Australian Veterinary Association. ”Because that would be giving everyone very much a false sense of security.”
Those arguing against banning selective breeds, and that comprises many animal welfare associations including the RSPCA, say a more effective and humane approach is to implement a system of education and training of dogs enforced by policing with fines and jail for irresponsible owners. They say a dog should be deemed irredeemably dangerous on the basis of its temperament not the way it looks.
This system used in the Canadian city of Calgary is being held up as a successful way to effectively reduce dog attacks.
Bill Bruce, Calgary’s director of animal and bylaw services, oversees the program. ”If you come to Calgary you rarely see a dog roaming loose in the street, you don’t see a lot of aggressive dogs,
Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/victoria/good-dog-bad-dog-20111206-1oh1q.html#ixzz391DxNgbk
More Facts About BSL & Calgary
SEPTEMBER 7, 2013 14 COMMENTS
An upcoming municipal election and a recent headline have reignited calls this week for pit bull bans in both Calgary and Osoyoos, BC.
In Osoyoos, the local newspaper was kind enough to print a letter to the editor that I wrote them while I was there on vacation and came across an inflamatory, factually incorrect editorial avocating a pit bull ban after an incident there. You can read my reply here, but unfortunately I can’t find the original editorial online.
The most recent Calgary incident is interesting because intervening in a fight between two dogs caused a child to get bit (not seriously – thankfully everyone is okay). The media, both CTV and CBC articles, have made it very clear that the dog that bit the child was a pit bull (“pit bull” is said 5 times in about 150 words in the linked article). The details of what caused the child to be bit – the preceding dog fight – are not discussed, including the breed of the other dog, which dog instigated the fight, or the fact that the owners of both dogs clearly did not have control of their animals. Yes, it was an off-leash space, but control is still required by Calgary by-law.
Update: 660 News has printed this clarification that the child was not bit by the dog at all and injuries were sustained from falling from the carrier. I doubt this clarification will receive the widespread publication the original “pit bull” headlines got – that is, if all news organizations make the correction.
In Calgary, dog bites accounts are rising. That is true. That’s bound to happen as a population increases, but it does seem to have grown disporportionately since 2009. Still, our city – and our responsible pet ownership model – still boasts the lowest bite-per-population ratio in North America, so we’re doing something right.
merican Animal Foundation
case law on bsl
Zuniga v. San Mateo Dept. of Health Services (1990) 218 Cal. App. 3d 1521,
267 Cal. Rptr. 2d 755. The court found there was not sufficient evidence to prove Pit Bulls
have an inherent nature of being dangerous.
Carter v. Metro North Assocs. (1998) 255 A.D. 2d 251; 680 N.Y.S.2d 299 A New
York appellate court determined that the alleged propensities of Pit Bull Terriers to behave
more viciously than other breeds had not been authoritatively established.
ACF litigated the city of Huntsville Alabama in 2002 in a case that was heard by
the Alabama Supreme Court. Huntsville v. Four Pit Bull Puppies (Ala. 08-30-02), No.
1010459, unreported. The court determined that American Pit Bull Terriers were not
dangerous.
In March 2003 ACF sued the city of Ottumwa Iowa for 750,000 for passing a
breed ban, the case is in litigation. ACF v Ottumwa EQEQ 103700
On July 16th 2003 ACF brought forth a constitutional challenge against
Ohio’s state law that declares the Pit Bull vicious. The case was heard in the Toledo
Muni Court and the court found the American Pit Bull Terrier was not dangerous and granted
Pit Bull owners due process , the case is in appeal. Tellings v State of Ohio CRB02-15267
In August 2004 a case ACF assisted in was heard by the Ohio Supreme
Court. State v. Cowan 103 Ohio St. 3d 144 , 2004 – Ohio – 4777 The court found ORC 955:
22 violative of the right to be heard as applied to ORC955:11 which declared the Pit Bull
vicious in Ohio. The decision struck down Ohio’s breed specific legislation at the state level.
This kind of legislation has generated a great deal of controversy. Repeated legal challenges in cities as Denver and Toronto, have failed to repeal BSL. On the other hand, BSL has been repealed successfully in The Netherlands and Belgium. Proponents for breed specific legislation believe that eliminating a target breed from the population will ultimately decrease the number of dog bites and severe dog attacks and consequently, reduces the financial and emotional cost to communities associated with dog bite injury. In the United States, those opposed to the restrictions imposed by breed specific legislation challenge the law based on its over-inclusiveness and its failure to allow due to process for the individual dog owner. Is breed specific legislation effective in achieving its stated goals? If one reviews findings in the scientific literature addressing this question, the overwhelming conclusion is that it is not.
Inability to determine risk scientifically
In Clifton’s analysis, he attempts to evaluate dog behavior based on breed, bite frequency, and “degree of relative risk.”
Yet Clifton has shown numerous times in his report that he cannot identify a breed properly, or even spell breed names correctly.
Both bite frequency and degree of relative risk are impossible to calculate. No one knows how often breeds bite since hundreds of bites go unreported. And to attempt to determine a “degree of relative risk,” Clifton would have to know every factor that contributed to every dog bite.
Even the CDC concluded at the end of their own flawed study (see above) that there is no way to determine relative risk:
There is currently no accurate way to identify the number of dogs of a particular breed, and consequently no measure to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill.
Merritt Clifton apparently does not understand the many factors that go into a reliable calculation of relative risk, nor does he wish to acknowledge that trained researchers realize that many, if not most, of those factors can never be known or calculated.
MERRITT CLIFTON
DOG ATTACK DEATHS AND MAIMINGS, U.S. AND CANADA, 1982 THROUGH 2007 (UPDATED YEARLY)
Merritt Clifton’s study is a medley of newspaper articles that present a very biased and inaccurate overview of dog bites. It is more of an incomplete tally of severe bites than a study.
Media as only source of data
Clifton’s only source for his findings is the media, and he focuses on cases that required “extensive hospitalization.” This term is never defined in his article. It might mean stitches, or it might mean amputation.
CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION
BREEDS OF DOGS INVOLVED IN FATAL HUMAN ATTACKS IN THE UNITED STATES BETWEEN 1979 AND 1998
This is perhaps the most misused and misunderstood dog bite report. Politicians and the media often quote this report inaccurately.
The main flaw in the CDC study is that it attempts to characterize dog attacks by breed, while ignoring all other possible factors.
Media as a source of data
The CDC study uses media accounts in their findings. The media is known to misreport and skew articles on dog attacks and misidentify breeds (see Difficulty of Breed Identification).
Missing data
The report also admits that it does not cover twenty-eight percent of fatal dog attacks. It is not clear what the study results would have been if all fatal dog attacks were included.
Miscategorization and misidentification
In the study, on the chart showing the number of dog bite-related deaths, the CDC has divided the attacks into sections titled Purebred and Crossbred. The CDC has listed Pit Bull-type and Husky-type under both the Purebred and Crossbred divisions. A “type” is not a breed.
Pit Bull-types are often categorized as dogs with short fur and a boxy head. There are over twenty breeds of dogs that fit this description, including the American Bulldog, Boxer, Olde English Bulldogge, Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldog, American Staffordshire Terrier, Bull Terrier, Bull Mastiff, American Pit Bull Terrier, Dogo Argentino, Tosa Inu, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Dogue de Bordeaux, Fila Brasileiro, Presa Canario, Catahoula Leopard Dog, Cane Corso, Black Mouth Cur, and the Shar Pei.
Husky-types are often identified as medium sized dogs with long fur. This is extremely vague. Dogs that meet this description include the Akita Inu, Shiba Inu, Alaskan Malamute, Samoyed, Elkhound, Hokkaido Inu, Laika, Siberian Husky, Chow Chow, Alaskan Husky, and the Greenland Dog.
It is inaccurate to list all such breeds under one title; such groupings distort the study’s findings. Yet few people could recognize all these breeds correctly.
The CDC study uses inconclusive sources, fails to account for breed misidentification, and erroneously groups breeds.
Study conclusion
Despite the study’s flaws, the study authors conclude that breed-specific legislation is inefficient; BSL fails to recognize that any dog of any breed can exhibit aggressive behaviors.
Missing data
In the beginning of the study, Clifton states that attacks by police dogs, guard dogs, dogs trained to fight, and dogs whose breed may be uncertain are excluded. Therefore, it is reasonable to assume a good number of attacks are not included. This might leave the reader with the assumption that Clifton has included all other dog attacks.
The CDC reports in their Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report that of the “333,700 patients treated for dog bites in emergency departments in 1994, approximately 6,000 were hospitalized.” (July 4, 2003 article at https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5226a1.htm)
However, Clifton lists only 2,363 bites total—and that is over the 25 years that he has tallied media reports of attacks.
If approximately 6,000 people require hospitalization each year because of a dog attack, then over 25 years, there would have been 150,000 people hospitalized. Yet Clifton has apparently only found media reports for 1.6% of all these attacks.
Clifton’s report therefore implies that the remaining 98.4% of bites that required “extensive hospitalization” according to the CDC were by non-identifiable types of dogs or police, guard, or fighting animals. This is highly unlikely. Clifton’s data is so incomplete as to make it virtually useless for analyzing patterns related to severe dog attacks.
With rescue groups, shelters, nonprofit animal protection groups, the American Bar Association, the Center for Disease Control, and even President Obama against BSL, let’s hope these six states stand up to discrimination and finally take more effective steps to combating the real root of the “pit bull problem”: poor guardianship.
If you live in Maryland, Vermont, South Dakota, Missouri, Utah, or Washington, be sure to contact your state representatives and senators and urge them to end BSL today!
Image source: Steph Skardal / Flickr
Correlation Versus Causation
Another logical fallacy that has been made when looking at dog bite statistics is the assumption that correlation equals causation: that is, when events are shown to be related, it is because one event causes the other.
For instance, it has been shown that senior citizens are more likely to vote than middle-aged individuals. There is a correlation between age and voting record, but it would be a fallacy to assume that old age somehow causes people to vote. Rather, other factors—such as how much time an individual can devote to participating in the election process, or how concerned a voter is about the issues to be voted on—must be considered. It is not necessarily the case that older people are somehow genetically driven to vote, but that they are mostly retired (giving them time to engage in voting activities) and also have concerns about health care and retirement benefits (common election issues).
Similarly, apparent correlations between dog breeds and numbers of fatal attacks can not be interpreted as proof that the dog’s breed is the reason why the dog attacks. Dog behavior, particularly aggression, is extremely complicated and involves a number of environmental and situational factors. Failure to recognize and analyze all of these factors results in misinterpretation and misapplication of statistics, with potentially dangerous results (such as the mythology of the dangerous/safe breed dichotomy).
Q. How costly is it to implement and enforce BSL?
A: BSL is very costly, penalizes responsible pet owners, diverts resources, and is open to challenge.
Use the Best Friends Fiscal Impact Calculator: https://bestfriends.guerrillaeconomics.net/ to calculate an estimate of the additional expenses for your community (and you as a taxpayer) that will result from BSL: costs for enforcement, kenneling, euthanasia and litigation, among others.
• Miami-Dade County banned “pit bulls” in 1989. The ban did not reduce dog bites, but has generated litigation costs. Hearing officer proceedings, as well as a circuit court case, have questioned the enforceability of the law.
• The Department of Justice guidelines for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) state that it is contrary to the Act to deny a disabled person equal access to public facilities based upon the presumed breed of their service dog. This has exposed municipalities with BSL to litigation costs when they have attempted to deny such access based the presumed breed of a person’s service dog.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
Denver enacted its breed ban in 1989. As mentioned above, in 1998, a Denverchild succumbed to injuries inficted by a dog identified as other than a pit bull.It is no surprise that Denver has not seen any appreciable difference in the number or severity odog attacks compared to cities without breed bans.
Breed bans endorse the profoundly mistaken notion that the breed of dog is the driving force behind an attack. Attempting to identify the breed of dog involved in an attack and then “classifying” the inci-dent to be a result of a breed-specific behavior will never prevent dog attacks. It offers no useful infor-mation. We need to hold dog owners responsible or humanely controlling their dogs, and we need toeducate parents/dog owners about dog safety, and the importance of supervising their young children when interacting with dog
The City of Denver continues to squander publicresources deending its breed ban against legal challenges led on behalf of the City’s responsible dog owners. In 2008, responding to public outcry From 1994-1999, 39 children were admitted to a single Denver hospital (Children’s Pediatric) for injuries associated with dogs bites. One of these children died. Of the 38 non-fatal incidents, 82% were not reported in the media at all. Denver offcials have never discussed–correctly, in our opinion–banning the breeds/types of dogs that were alleged to be involved in the 38 cases. Nor have they considered banning the breed/type of dog dentified in connection with the 1998 fatality. In fact, Denver authorities continue to dedicate public resources to enforcing their pit bull ban and defending it from legal challenge, while citizens continue to suffer the same type of dog attacks asthey did prior to the ban
Q. Does BSL reduce dog bites?
No. BSL has not succeeded in reducing dog bite-related injuries wherever in the world it has been enacted.
• An analysis published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association explains why BSL does not reduce serious dog bites. The authors calculated the absurdly large numbers of dogs of targeted breeds who would have to be completely removed from a community in order to prevent even one serious dog bite-related injury. For example, in order to prevent a single hospitalization resulting from a dog bite, the authors calculate that a city or town would have to remove more than 100,000 dogs of a targeted group. To prevent a second hospitalization, double that number.[4]
• Denver, CO enacted a breed ban in 1989. Citizens of Denver continue to suffer a higher rate of hospitalization from dog bite-related injuries after the ban, than the citizens of breed-neutral Colorado counties.[5]
• A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior (2007), compared medically treated dog bites in Aragon, Spain for 5 years prior to and following enactment of Spain’s “Law on the legal treatment of the possession of dangerous animals” (sometimes referred to Spain’s Dangerous Animal Act) (2000). The results showed no significant effect in dog bite incidences when comparing before and after enactment of the BSL.[6]
• The Netherlands repealed a 15-year-old breed ban in 2008 after commissioning a study of its effectiveness. The study revealed that BSL was not a successful dog-bite mitigation strategy because it had not resulted in a decrease in dog bites. [7]
• The Province of Ontario in Canada enacted a breed ban in 2005. In 2010, based on a survey of municipalities across the Province, the Toronto Humane Society reported that, despite five years of BSL and the destruction of “countless” dogs, there had been no significant decrease in the number of dog bites.[8]
• Winnipeg, Manitoba enacted a breed ban in 1990. Winnipeg’s rate of dog bite-injury hospitalizations is virtually unchanged from that day to this, and remains significantly higher than the rate in breed-neutral, responsible pet ownership Calgary.[9]
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.2jYRPnMe.dpuf
Excerpts From The Source: Science Daily
Research conducted by animal behavior experts challenges the basis of breed specific legislation designed to protect the public from ‘dangerous’ dogs.
A team from the University of Lincoln, UK, concluded that rather than making people safer, current legislation could be lulling them into a false sense of security.
Dr Tracey Clarke and Professors Daniel Mills and Jonathan Cooper from Lincoln’s School of Life Sciences set out to discover the source of people’s perceptions about ‘typical behaviors’ associated with different breeds of dog.
The researchers applied a theory known as the ‘contact hypothesis’ — used by sociologists to understand the origin of racial stereotyping and other forms of prejudice.
They surveyed more than 160 people to examine if their contact with dogs influenced their tendency to believe populist and negative breed stereotypes.
More than half of the “experienced dog owner” respondents felt there was no valid reason for breed specific legislation, whereas less than 1 in 10 of the inexperienced respondents felt the same.
The results were consistent with the prediction that not just the level but also the quality of contact with dogs are major influences on the tendency to believe populist breed stereotypes, despite scientific evidence which challenges the validity of such generalisations.
The type of person attracted towards certain breeds and encouraging certain behaviors may be a much better predictor.
It was discovered that a dog’s visible characteristics informed strong attitudes, resulting in over-generalization. Not only bull-breeds but also those with much more superficial characteristics such as being well-muscled, or even short-haired, were stigmatised more often as dangerous by those with less experience or knowledge of dogs.
Writing Effective Letters to Officials
One of the most difficult things for those new to fighting BSL is expressing your feelings to the legislators and/or other officials who have proposed it. There are some very important things to remember when communicating with officials:
First and foremost, ALWAYS BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL in all your communications with officials. Don’t be combative or argumentative regardless of the difference between your point of view and theirs. Our dogs are worth putting your personal feelings of anger aside in order to communicate effectively.
Stick to the facts. Try to avoid being emotional. It is a given that you love your dogs or you wouldn’t be fighting for them. The simple truth is, the officials do not care how much we love our dogs — they care about the safety of their constituents and their community. To that end, the facts related to the inefficiency of breed specific legislation and the integral part that irresponsible owners play in dog attacks are important facts to get across to them.
Below are some talking points that you can use in conjunction with your own words when writing letters to officials. The talking points hit on important flaws of breed specific legislation, and should give you good groundwork to customize and build your own letter.
TALKING POINTS
The Cost of BSL. One thing that always catches the ear of any official is the cost or potential cost to his or her constituents. Reinforce the fact that breed specific laws cost a lot of money – additional animal control, shelters fees, vetting, litigation, etc. The bottom line is simple… BSL costs tax payers A LOT of money!
The states of Tennessee and New Mexico issued fiscal reports on financial impact breed specific legislation. Those reports are an excellent illustration of the tremendous financial impact and strain BSL has on communities.
Breed Identification. Another important flaw with breed specific laws is breed identification. There are a minimum of twenty (20) dog breeds that possess the physical traits of ‘pit bulls.’ The “Find the Pit Bull” game is an excellent tool to demonstrate the difficulty of identifying ‘pit bulls.”
Most animal control and/or law enforcement officers are not able to identify specific breeds of dogs with any degree of accuracy because the commonly stated physical characteristics are similar in many breeds.
Breed bans carry with them too much potential for arbitrary or improper enforcement: inaccurate breed identification by officials and difficulty enforcing breed bans against mixed-breed.
Because breed identification by animal control officers is subjective and/or arbitrary, it opens the city to liability and litigation issues in the event of mistaken identification.
Failure to Address Irresponsible Owners. Perhaps the most compelling argument with respect to why breed specific legislation fails is that it simply does not address the issue of irresponsible dog ownership. BSL places all the blame on the dogs and removes the responsibility from the dog owner. Dog ownership is a responsibility, and dog owners must be held accountable for the actions of their dogs.
Restricting breeds of dogs does not address the real issue of irresponsible owners. Only when such owners are held accountable for the actions of their dogs, will adverse dog incidents be reduced.
Because breed specific legislation fails to address irresponsible dog owners, many areas that have enacted breed regulations have actually experienced an increase in dog bite/attack incidents of the dog breeds NOT covered by the breed specific law.
The good news is, many organizations are working to strike down these antiquated laws, and you can help.
Here’s how
Join a group that’s working for anti-BSL and pit bull advocacy. A few include Hershey Anti-BSL Group, Stop BSL, Love-A-Bull and the Miami Coalition Against Breed-Specific Legislation.
If you live in an area with BSL, contact your elected representatives and express your opinion on the issue.
Spay/neuter your pets, and encourage others to do the same. According to the ASPCA, more than 70 percent of dog bite cases involve unneutered male dogs.
Educate everyone you talk to. Many animal-lovers are still unaware of the unjust nature of these laws. Spread the word and the facts.
Adopt (or foster) a pibble! Their shelter death rates are dismal, and every home helps.
Any other suggestions, Green Monsters? Share them in the comments!
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Developing a proactive solution
Our society coexists with almost 80 million dogs—living in 40% of American households—so it’s vital that communities have preventative, effective dog-bite solutions that are backed by stakeholders and lawmakers. Such solutions involve understanding the real risk factors for bites, helping minimize those risk factors, and ensuring that bites are handled effectively and uniformly to eliminate future risk.
Dog bite incidents will decline when all dog owners are given access to critical services such as veterinary care, spaying and neutering resources, training and behavior assistance, and other socialization and health information. Proactive strategies aimed at preventing bites from happening in the first place—paired with appropriate enforcement-based responses to bite incidents—create a safer, more humane approach to managing dogs in communities
Missing the scope of the problem
Most breed-specific laws are created as a misguided response to a dog bite incident or attack. There are a number of reasons BSL does not protect citizens from dog bites, including:
There is no credible evidence to demonstrate that any particular breed or type is overrepresented among biting dogs. Professional animal expert organizations, including the American Veterinary Medical Association, have found that no breed is more dangerous than another.
Identifying breeds is often subjective and unreliable. For example, the term “pit bull” usually encompasses three separate breeds, along with any mixes of those breeds. Any medium-sized dog with short hair and a squarish muzzle could meet most people’s visual perception of a “pit bull” dog—including hound mixes, retriever mixes, and other dogs with no “pit bull” ancestry. Clearly, the larger the dog, the greater the potential damage if he or she bites, but no one breed or type is more genetically programmed to bite than others.
BSL is nearly impossible to enforce. It often ends up being created as a reactionary measure to a bite incident that ignores the true scope of the problem. As a result, there’s no scientific data that proves breed-specific measures have ever been effective at eliminating dog bites.
Underfunded animal-control agencies bear the brunt of the burden, as BSL creates unrealistic mandates that take dogs out of homes and into shelters. These shelters then must endure the burden of housing—and often euthanizing—family dogs who posed no bite risk.
Understanding the real risk factors
Though breed or type don’t affect a dog’s behavior, there are a variety of other factors and influences that do, including:
The dog’s hormones. Dogs who have not been neutered are more likely to bite than dogs that have.
The dog’s quality of life. Dogs who spend their lives isolated or chained may bite out of frustration or fear. Those are determinations that must be made by owners to prevent their dogs from biting.
The dog’s upbringing. Dogs raised by owners who understand and manage their behaviors and provide veterinary care may avoid painful or uncomfortable conditions that can cause overreactions to being handled.
The dog’s personality. Like people, some dogs are more easy-going than others, while others don’t adjust well to new situations. No two dogs will ever react exactly the same way to a given circumstance.
The person’s ability to recognize warning signs. Dogs who bite usually give some kind of warning, whether subtle or overt. If people ignore or misunderstand such warnings, dogs may feel the need or urge to bite.
Why Breed-Specific Legislation Doesn’t Work
Targeting types or breeds of dogs won’t stop dog bites or protect people
Laws restricting certain breeds may break up families, but they definitely won’t make a community safer. Lisa J. Godfrey/For The HSUS
The HSUS opposes laws and ordinances aimed at forbidding or regulating dog ownership based solely on breed or type of dog. Breed-specific legislation (BSL) does not enhance public safety or reduce dog bite incidents. Rather, such laws, regulations, and ordinances are costly to enforce and harm families, dogs, and communities.
The HSUS supports finding real and effective strategies for safe, humane community dog management and believes BSL is a distraction from that goal—it wastes valuable resources and charges a moral cost in the process.
Humane Society of the United States (HSUS)
(click above for direct link)
HSUS Statement on Dangerous Dogs and Breed-Specific Legislation
The HSUS opposes legislation aimed at eradicating or strictly regulating dogs based solely on their breed for a number of reasons. Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) is a common first approach that many communities take. Thankfully, once research is conducted most community leaders correctly realize that BSL won’t solve the problems they face with dangerous dogs…
Read entire text here.
THE UNITED KINGDOM
The United Kingdom’s Dangerous Dog Act bans the American Pit Bull Terrier and three other breeds of dogs and their crossbreeds. Yet reports from the U.K. indicate that dog bites requiring hospital treatment have not decreased. Rather, 4,328 dog bites were reported treated by U.K. hospitals in 1999, whereas in the year ending April 2011 there were 6,118 such treatments—an increase of 41% over ten years [HES data]. The U.K. also continues to experience approximately four dog bite fatalities per year.
The media and many others have noted a sharp increase in the number of “status dogs” being obtained and ultimately abused. A Dogs Trust press release from 2012 noted that numbers of stray “status dogs” had increased by 148% from the previous year. One contributor to a 2011 roundtable debate on the DDA observed: “Banning breeds inevitably makes them more desirable for the wrong kind of person. Pit bulls and Staffie crosses are now so common that people are inevitably moving on to the next thing – huskies, molosos, presca canarios. We can’t add every dog to a banned list. We need to look at why people are getting these dogs.” The Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals has repeatedly observed that the Dangerous Dog Act does not address the ownership and management issues that lead to the creation of dangerous dogs.
Following a fatal attack in early 2013, a select group of MP’s formed a committee to review the Dangerous Dogs Act and the changes officials proposed in response to this incident. The ultimate outcome of this committee is a report that concludes the banning of certain breeds in the UK is accepted as a failure in reducing bites by both targeted dogs and all others.
The U.K. has been struggling for at least half a decade to decide how to handle their continued problems with dangerous dogs. Most officials and organizations agree that the DDA is not protecting the public, but very few agree on exactly what should be done about it. In February 2011, Scotland officials took matters into their own hands by revising their laws to remove BSL (but unfortunately, as part of the U.K., Scotland cannot get out from under the DDA).
nternational Association of Animal Behavior Consultants
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Position Statement on Breed-Specific Legislation:
The International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC) is an organization representing professional animal trainers and animal behavior specialists. The IAABC strongly opposes any legislation specifically designed to target or discriminate against dogs based solely on their breed or appearance. The IAABC does not believe that a dog poses a danger to society solely because of its breed. Dogs can become dangerous as a result of faulty socialization, inappropriate training, poor living conditions and other factors having nothing to do with their breed. The IAABC believes that the objectives behind breed specific legislation can be met more effectively through rigorous enforcement and, where necessary, the strengthening of existing laws. We fully understand and support the need for laws to protect society, human and animal alike; however, our organization feels that any new legislation should be based on specific behaviors or actions and should not discriminate based on breed alone.
International Association of Canine Professionals
(click above for direct link–PDF doc)
Position Statement on Breed Specific Legislation
The International Association of Canine Professionals strongly opposes legislation which discriminates against dogs and their owners by labeling certain dogs as “dangerous” or “vicious” based on breed or phenotype. Breed-specific legislation does not protect communities nor create a more responsible dog owner. Instead it negatively affects many law abiding dog owners and dogs within the targeted breeds.
Breed or breed type is only one factor which determines an individual dog’s temperament. Many other factors also influence behavior. In the case of aggressive acts by dogs, factors may include, but are not limited to: genetic predisposition; irresponsible handling; lack of animal management; general care; improper socialization and training; poor housing conditions; physical ailment, and lack of education and supervision.
A common and serious error in the ‘assumption of risk by breed’ is the inability to identify individual dogs by breed, according to an established breed standard or breed type. Purebred dogs which are registered with national clubs may or may not fit the ideal standard for their breed. As dogs are further distanced from the
“ideal” standard by phenotype, especially in mixed breeds, it may become all but impossible for accurate identification.
The vast majority of dogs typically affected by breed-specific legislation are not “dangerous” by any standard. Their physical appearance alone cannot be used as an indicator of an aggressive nature. Breed-specific legislation creates an undue burden on responsible owners of targeted breeds – dogs which are most often not dangerous to their communities.
Enforcing breed-specific laws is extremely difficult. It requires funding which would otherwise be available for the enforcement of more effective laws which target truly dangerous dogs on an individual basis. It is also costly to the court system.
Limiting the risk of dog bites should be the legal responsibility of the dog owner. The IACP believes in the importance of educating owners in the proper selection, care, socialization and training of dogs. We also recognize the importance of teaching the general public, and especially children, in bite prevention skills and techniques.
The IACP supports the creation and enforcement of laws which protect responsible dog owners while at the same time promote the safety of all. We support laws which penalize irresponsible dog owners on an individual basis. Current animal control laws should be enforced. In many communities, laws allow officials to confiscate the individual dog who has proven dangerous. This, along with the education we advocate, will help the public not to simply feel safer, but actually to be safer. A very small minority of dogs pose any significant threat to humans. Dog ownership, on the whole, improves quality of life for countless families.
Abstract
Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association
September 15, 2000, Vol. 217, No. 6, Pages 836-840
doi: 10.2460/javma.2000.217.836
Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998
Jeffrey J. Sacks , MD, MPH Leslie Sinclair , DVM Julie Gilchrist , MD Gail C. Golab , PhD, DVM Randall Lockwood , PhD
Division of Unintentional Injury Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, US Department of Health and Human Services, US Public Health Service, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 4770 Buford Hwy NE (MS K-63), Atlanta, GA 30341. (Sacks, Gilchrist); Present address is National Center for Chronic Disease Prevention and Health Promotion, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 4770 Buford Hwy NE (MS K-45), Atlanta, GA 30341. (Sacks); The Humane Society of the United States, 2100 L Street, NW, Washington, DC 20037. (Sinclair, Lockwood); Present address is Shelter Veterinary Services, 9320 Jarrett Ct, Montgomery Village, MD 20886. (Sinclair); Division of Education and Research, American Veterinary Medical Association, 931 N Meacham Rd, Ste 100, Schaumburg, IL 60173. (Golab)
Objective—To summarize breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks during a 20-year period and to assess policy implications.
Animals—Dogs for which breed was reported involved in attacks on humans between 1979 and 1998 that resulted in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRF).
Procedure—Data for human DBRF identified previously for the period of 1979 through 1996 were combined with human DBRF newly identified for 1997 and 1998. Human DBRF were identified by searching news accounts and by use of The Humane Society of the United States’ registry databank.
Results—During 1997 and 1998, at least 27 people died of dog bite attacks (18 in 1997 and 9 in 1998). At least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human DBRF during the past 20 years. Pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers were involved in more than half of these deaths. Of 227 reports with relevant data, 55 (24%) human deaths involved unrestrained dogs off their owners’ property, 133 (58%) involved unrestrained dogs on their owners’ property, 38 (17%) involved restrained dogs on their owners’ property, and 1 (< 1%) involved a restrained dog off its owner's property.
Conclusions—Although fatal attacks on humans appear to be a breed-specific problem (pit bull-type dogs and Rottweilers), other breeds may bite and cause fatalities at higher rates. Because of difficulties inherent in determining a dog's breed with certainty, enforcement of breed-specific ordinances raises constitutional and practical issues. Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning dangerous dogs. Many practical alternatives to breed-specific ordinances exist and hold promise for prevention of dog bites. (J Am Vet Med Assoc 2000;217:836–840)
According to statistics posted online in February, 2013 by the American Temperament Test Society, 86.8 percent of American Pit Bull Terriers successfully pass their temperament evaluations—a higher passing rate than many other popular breeds such as Golden Retrievers, Cocker Spaniels, Collies, Boston Terriers and Dachshunds. Out of 32,438 dogs tested since the organization was founded in 1977, the average passing rate for all breeds is 83 percent. (https://atts.org/breed-statistics/)
*Luntz Global conducted 850 interviews with men and women between the ages of 18 and 65+. The results of the survey have a margin of error of +/- 3.4 percent.
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According to the National Canine Research Council and an October, 2010 report in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA), studies done in the United Kingdom, Spain, Italy and the Netherlands found that breed discriminatory laws in those countries didn’t reduce the number of dog bites or improve public safety. (https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/NNB%20now%20available%20in%20JAVMA%20dated.pdf)
Based on these studies and concerns about due process and property rights infringement, the National Animal Control Association, the American Veterinary Medical Association, Best Friends Animal Society, the ASPCA, and the Humane Society of the United States are against breed discrimination.
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC), based on its September, 2000 study of human fatalities from dog bites, published in JAVMA, also promotes a breed-neutral approach to legislation. The CDC found that many other factors, besides a dog’s breed such as reproductive status, heredity, sex, early experiences, socialization and training, can affect the likelihood that a dog could attack someone. (https://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/javma.2000.217.836)
Many breed discriminatory laws are aimed at pit bull terriers, one of the more popular breeds in the United States. An estimated 5-7 million pit bull terriers live as pets in the United States, and the vast majority of pit bull terriers are loving, loyal family pets.
the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association (JAVMA) published the “Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite–related fatalities in the United States (2000–2009).” The objective of the study was to “examine potentially preventable factors in human dog bite-related fatalities (DBRFs) on the basis of data from sources that were more complete, verifiable, and accurate than media reports used in previous studies.” Instead of relying on news accounts like in the previous study, the researchers used reports by homicide detectives and animal control agencies, and interviews with investigators.
The study found that the major factors in the fatalities studied include: the absence of an able-bodied person to intervene (87.1%), incidental or no familiar relationship of victims with dogs (85.2%), owner failure to neuter dogs (84.4%), compromised ability of victims to interact appropriately with dogs (77.4%), dogs kept isolated from regular positive human interactions versus family dogs (76.2%), owners’ prior mismanagement of dogs (37.5%), and owners’ history of abuse or neglect of dogs (21.1%). Four or more of these factors were present in over 80% of the dog bite related deaths. Considering that over 75% of dog bite related deaths were caused by resident dogs (a dog not kept as a family pet, but isolated from positive human interactions and usually kept for protection and/or chained outside), reducing this practice is a huge factor in preventing dog bites, as is neutering male dogs.
Most dog bite related fatalities had the above preventable factors in common, but no where was breed found to be a factor. The authors of this new report found that breed could not be reliably identified in over 80% of the cases, as news reports often differed from each other or from animal control reports.
Dog behavior experts have been recommending prevention techniques based on improved ownership practices, such as learning to read and understand dog behavior signals, teaching children how to safely interact with dogs, and providing dogs with proper socialization and veterinary care, for decades. Now, we have a JAVMA article in support of these practices. We all want to live in safe communities, and focusing our animal control laws on the preventable factors identified, is the road to get there.
To read more about this study from the National Canine Research Council, click here.
The full citation for the report is:
Gary J. Patronek, Jeffrey J. Sacks, Karen M. Delise, Donald V. Cleary, and Amy R. Marder. Co-occurrence of potentially preventable factors in 256 dog bite–related fatalities in the United States (2000–2009). Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, December 15, 2013, Vol. 243, No. 12 , Pages 1726-1736. (doi: 10.2460/javma.243.12.1726)
What position do legal, animal-related, and non-animal related organizations take on BSL?
A: All of the following organizations do not endorse BSL:
American Animal Hospital Association, American Bar Association, American Dog Owner’s Association, American Humane Association, American Kennel Club, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, American Veterinary Medical Association, American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior, Association of Pet Dog Trainers, Australian Veterinary Association, Best Friends Animal Society, British Veterinary Association, Canadian Kennel Club, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Federation of Veterinarians in Europe, Humane Society of the United States, International Association of Canine Professionals, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, National Association of Obedience Instructors, Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (UK & Australia), United Kennel Club, and the White House Administration. In addition, many state and local-level veterinary medical associations and humane organizations oppose BSL.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
Misapplied and misinterpreted data
Clifton’s analysis section is full of faults and absurd assumptions.
Of the breeds most often involved in incidents of sufficient severity to be listed, pit bull terriers are noteworthy for attacking adults almost as frequently as children. This is a very rare pattern . . . Pit bulls seem to differ behaviorally from other dogs in having far less inhibition about attacking people who are larger than they are.
As discussed, Clifton has tallied less than two percent of all severe dog attacks. He clearly has no idea how frequently pit bulls—or any other type of dog, for that matter—bite.
Furthermore, without knowing all bite factors, including the dog’s health, condition, sexual state, training, environment, and the behavior of the victim, there is no way Clifton could possibly conceive any possible pattern or difference as to who pit bulls attack.
Since Clifton is tallying media articles, his conclusion seems to be more telling of media coverage of dog bites. If one was to assume that the media is more likely to publish a pit bull attack than an attack by another type of dog, and more likely to publish an attack on a child than an attack on an adult, it stands to reason that while media-reported pit bull attacks include both adults and children, media reports about other types of dogs’ attacks may only be considered newsworthy when a child is involved. Thus, it may appear that pit bulls are overrepresented in attacks on adults.
The Maryland General Assembly gave its final approval to legislation that overrules a state high court ruling that claims pit bulls are an “inherently dangerous” breed of dog that must be held to a stricter liability standard for bites than other breeds.
In 2012, in the case of Tracey v. Solesky, Maryland’s highest court labeled pit bulls and pit bull mixes as “inherently dangerous” and held both the owner and landlord “strictly liable” for any attacks. As a result of the ruling, landlords evicted and refused to rent to dog owners, and a huge number of pit bulls were surrendered to shelters. All this was taking place at the same time as President Obama, the Centers for Disease Control, the American Veterinary Medicine Association and others were opposing breed-specific legislation laws that were especially aimed at pit bulls and restricted the ownership of dogs by breed.
Opponents to the legislation claimed that it failed to increase safety while imposing numerous, heartbreaking hardships on the dogs, their caretakers, and others. “Breed Specific Legislation has consistently failed in communities around the world. It has no quantifiable impact on a decrease in dog bites or an increase in public safety,” said longtime advocate Lisa LaFontaine, president of the Washington Humane Society. “At the Washington Humane Society we have successfully changed the perspective of pit bull type dogs in our communities and our policies, and we are pleased to see Maryland follow suit.”
The bill, HB 73, holds owners liable for their dog’s injuries, regardless of the breed. HB 73 also removes liability for landlords, unless the landlord knew or should have known that the dog was actually dangerous. Injuries committed while a dog is running loose will still incur owners’ strict liability.
“It’s liberation for dog owners. It gives us an equal footing with the rest of the breeds and we’re not locked down for owning these dogs,” said pit bull advocate Eric Vocke.
“Any dog can bite. The simple truth is breed is not a factor in bites. All dogs are individuals,” said Ledy VanKavage, an attorney with Best Friends Animal Society, a group which is working to overturn breed specific legislation in multiple jurisdictions around the country.
Maryland’s Senate won praise from the Humane Society and other animal advocacy groups when it passed its version of the bill, SB 247, in late February. “Passage of this compromise legislation ends this disgraceful era of court sanctioned canine profiling, in which families with pit bull-type dogs were forced to choose between their homes and their beloved pets,” said Tami Santelli, Maryland state director for the Humane Society. “Lawmakers today voted against singling out particular breeds and in favor of raising the bar for all dog owners to protect victims of dog bites,” she added.
Actress Rebecca Corry, organizer of the upcoming One Million Pibble March on Washington and caretaker of a formerly abused pit bull named Angel, put it a bit more bluntly. “Angel just high fived me, farted and went back to sleep,” she said to HuffPost. “It’s about time the ignorance of the ‘inherently dangerous’ argument get laughed at and tossed out. There is no place or tolerance for abuse and discrimination in our society and humans that think otherwise are who are dangerous.”
Won by an overwhelming margin, the House has now sent the Senate-passed bill to Governor Martin O’Malley. Baltimore Humane Society spokesperson, Wendy Goldband believes there is reason for optimism. “Everyone seems to think he will sign without a problem,” Goldband said.
Caroline Zambrano examines the influence of the media when it comes to reporting on Breed Specific Legislation (BSL).
In the headline news…
“Pit Bull Attacks Mourners” BBC News Online, 15 January, 1998.
“Pit Bull Attacks Oakland Woman” San Francisco Chronicle, United States, 12 March, 2001
“Three Pit Bulls attack two-year-old Ottawa boy” CTV.ca (Canada), 2 February, 2005.
“Pit Bulls in three attacks” The Courier-Mail, Queensland, 3 May, 2005
As Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) began to spread more than a decade ago from Europe to the rest of the world, so did stories of dog attacks in the international media.
Dogs Life wonders if the media had refrained from publishing news of only Pit Bull attacks and disseminated pictures of children playing amongst these breeds, would Australia be targeting specific breeds in controlling dangerous dogs today?
In Australia, breeds banned from importation are the American Pit Bull Terrier or Pit Bull Terrier, Japanese Tosa, Dogo Argentino and Fila Brasileiro.
Many organisations and individual dog owners in the country argue that the media plays a big role in creating a misconception about breeds. International animal behaviour experts encourage the public to educate themselves better on the facts behind dog attacks.
Endangered Dog Breeds Association (EDBA) president Linda Watson said the media is not reporting the truth about dog attacks so dog lovers need to do their own research about certain breeds.
Since it started in 2001, the EDBA works with more than 200 members to provide the public with evidence, advice and alternatives to BSL and also to counter misinformation and hysteria about dog breeds and dog attacks promoted by the media and other anti-animal welfare organisations and governments.
“The media sensationalise dog attacks and at the moment seem only to publicise those involving Pit Bull type dogs or dogs they can convert into Pit Bulls,” Watson said. “Dog lovers need to educate themselves and understand particular breeds. Targeting breeds is unfair and irrational.”
Miami Dade County Dog Bite Numbers
I touched on this a bit in yesterday’s roundup but another article came out that means I get to bring it up again. In an article that Caveat brought to my attention last week, it was noted that the state of Florida is considering repealing its law forbidding cities from enacting BSL. In the article it notes that Miami Dade County, which enacted its breed ban 20 years ago, has failed to keep any statistics to give any indication about whether the ban has worked, or not worked.
Later, the Miami Herald published the top 10 biting breeds for both Dade County (basically Miami and has a ‘pit bull’ ban) and Broward County (basically Ft. Lauderdale, and has no ban) based 0n 2007 statistics.
Here are the numbers:
MIAMI-DADE ANIMAL CONTROL
Total dog bites: 992
1. Terrier: 108, 2. Labrador mix: 95, 3. Shepherd mix: 90, 4. Mixed breed: 81, 5. German shepherd: 53, 6. Chow mix: 50, 7. Boxer: 39, 8. Rottweiler: 33, 9. Pit bull: 32, 10. American bulldog: 30,
BROWARD COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL
Total dog bites: 616
1 Pit bull: 182, 2. Labrador retriever: 50, 3. German shepherd: 40, 4. Rottweiler : 36, 5. Shepherd: 29,
6. Chow chow: 23, 7. Bulldog: 17, 8. Boxer: 14,
9. Unknown (mixed): 14, 10. Jack Russell Terrier: 13
I normally wouldn’t have given a lot of thought to this except some ‘pit bull’ hate groups, which are apparently really horrible at math, have decided to try to use this information to ‘prove’ that the ‘pit bull’ ban in Miami Dade County is a great success – -because ‘pit bull’ bites are lower in Miami Dade County than they are in Broward County. However, they’ve apparently failed to note that Miami Dade county has 61% more dog bites than Broward County. Even when you take the population differences (Dade County has 35% more people) into account, Dade County still has a higher bite rate per capita than Broward County.
This doesn’t even begin to note the flaws in their logic. It should also be noted that there appears to be a significant difference in how breeds are reported when Dade County has 5 of its top 6 biting “breeds” being mixed breeds of some type, vs Broward County which has grouped all but 14 of their bites into nice, tidy breed categories which means a lot of the breed categories have become catch-all categories for mixes (which is fairly common for ‘pit bulls’ to get used as a catch all for any mixed breed Bulldog, boxer, bully etc).
I don’t put a whole lot of stock in comparing numbers between cities — just because differences in demographics, lifestyles, ways bites are reported, etc can vary quite substantially. Howevever I thought I’d bring this up to show how ridiculous some of the anti-pit bull groups have become in trying to read numbers without having any earthly clue as to what they’re looking at.?
Number of Dog Bites Reported:
There is no evidence that cities or counties, including Miami-Dade, that have enacted breed bans or restrictions have had a greater reduction in the number of reported bites than cities or counties without breed bans or restrictions.
Official reports from health departments and animal control agencies across the country show that the number of dog bites has plummeted to historic lows, despite the significant increase in both the human and dog population. Virtually all areas of the nation have witnessed dramatic reductions in the number of reported dog bites over the past 35+ years (1971-2007). For example; Minneapolis, New York City, and Baltimore, cities that have never enacted breed specific legislation, have experienced drastic reductions in the number of dog bites reported:.
Minneapolis shows an 86% reduction, from 1,692 to 239.
New York City has a 90% reduction, from 37,488 to 3,776.
Baltimore has seen a 91% reduction, from 6,809 to 593.
Miami/Dade has in fact realized a lesser decrease in the number of dog bites reported to Miami-Dade Animal Control — from almost 6000 bites reported in 1979, to 992 in 2007. This decline, of a little more than 80%, is at the lower end of the national trend. Further, most of this decline occurred before the ban was enacted. Between 1979 and 1988, dog bites reported to Miami-Dade Animal Control dropped from almost 6000 to fewer than 2600.
What about severe dog attacks?
Miami-Dade’s breed ban has not made Miami-Dade any safer than the rest of the state.
In enacting its ban in 1989, Miami/Dade argued that pit bulls inflict more serious injuries than other dogs, and promised that banning pit bulls would reduce serious injuries by dogs.
This promise has not been kept.
dogThe percentage of Miami/Dade dog bite incidents that result in the victim’s being hospitalized continues to be higher than the rate for the state as a whole. In 1998, ten years after the breed ban had been enacted, the county’s population was 14% of the total population of Florida; yet it had 18% of the dog bite hospitalizations. In 2007, Miami/Dade’s population was 13% of Florida’s total population, but it had 16% of the state’s dog bite victim hospitalizations. Miami-Dade is the only Florida county with a breed ban
What can the citizens of Miami-Dade look forward to with respect to its breed ban?
Miami-Dade can expect further expense and judicial proceedings, if they choose to continue the defense of the ban, with no appreciable decrease in dog bites, serious or otherwise, as compared with the rest of the state.
Law-abiding citizens will continue to live in fear that their family pet may be targeted by the ban.
Abusive owners, scofflaws, and criminals will continue to flout the law, and to obtain whatever dog they wish.
Miami-Dade can expect renewed legal challenges, similar to the case of Apollo.
dog in shelterA report published in July, 2009 in the Journal of Applied Animal Welfare Science indicates low correspondence between visual breed identification by adoption agencies when compared with DNA identification of the same dogs. In only 25% of these dogs was at least one of the breeds named by the adoption agencies also detected as a predominant breed by DNA analysis. Predominant breeds were defined as those comprised of the highest percentage of a DNA breed make-up.
Dog bite numbers will remain constant, since the limited resources available for animal services are directed at the physical appearance of the dog, rather than for programs and policies holding owners responsible for the humane care, custody and control of their dogs: the approach that animal experts have consistently identified as contributing to a safer, more humane community
“If you asked me if there was a predominance of pit bull bites versus other dogs, we don’t see a predominance of pit bull bites,” Munoz said. “Some say it’s that the ban works. Some say it’s just because they’re no different from any other dog.”
Other experts concur. In a recent report on dog-bite prevention, published in April, the American Veterinary Medical Association, the nation’s leading veterinary organization, concluded: “Owners of pit bull-type dogs deal with a strong breed stigma. However, controlled studies have not identified this breed group as disproportionately dangerous.”
The report points out that pit bulls are not more prone to biting than breeds such as German shepherds, Rottweilers, Jack Russell terriers and even collies and St. Bernards, but some are made dangerous by owners who abuse them or use them for fighting. A pit bull’s size and strength can make its attacks more lethal, but that also applies to other large dogs, the report said.
The AVMA concluded that because of the lack of solid data, “it is difficult to support the targeting of this breed as a basis for dog bite prevention.”
The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention agrees, offering this statement: “There is currently no accurate way to determine which breeds are more likely to bite or kill.”
The Humane Society of the United States (HSUS) also opposes breed-specific legislation, arguing that such legislation is discriminatory and costly to taxpayers, and results in the unnecessary deaths of thousands of innocent dogs.
In Miami-Dade County, owning American pit bull terriers, American Staffordshire terriers, Staffordshire bull terriers or any dog “substantially conforming” to any of the checklist of characteristics has been illegal since 1989. A dog in the county shelter that is identified as meeting these characteristics – even if there is no DNA proof of “pit bull” genes – is only eligible for adoption outside Miami-Dade county boundaries. If the dog is not adopted, it is euthanized, regardless of whether it has any bite history at all.
This means that any “pit bull” that winds up in the county shelter, even the most gentle family pet, faces almost certain death.
The HSUS points out that killing innocent dogs fails to address the real issues of irresponsible dog ownership, animal abuse, and public safety.
MARCH 10, 2008
Miami Dade County Dog Bite Numbers
I touched on this a bit in yesterday’s roundup but another article came out that means I get to bring it up again. In an article that Caveat brought to my attention last week, it was noted that the state of Florida is considering repealing its law forbidding cities from enacting BSL. In the article it notes that Miami Dade County, which enacted its breed ban 20 years ago, has failed to keep any statistics to give any indication about whether the ban has worked, or not worked.
Later, the Miami Herald published the top 10 biting breeds for both Dade County (basically Miami and has a ‘pit bull’ ban) and Broward County (basically Ft. Lauderdale, and has no ban) based 0n 2007 statistics.
Here are the numbers:
MIAMI-DADE ANIMAL CONTROL
Total dog bites: 992
1. Terrier: 108, 2. Labrador mix: 95, 3. Shepherd mix: 90, 4. Mixed breed: 81, 5. German shepherd: 53, 6. Chow mix: 50, 7. Boxer: 39, 8. Rottweiler: 33, 9. Pit bull: 32, 10. American bulldog: 30,
BROWARD COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL
Total dog bites: 616
1 Pit bull: 182, 2. Labrador retriever: 50, 3. German shepherd: 40, 4. Rottweiler : 36, 5. Shepherd: 29,
6. Chow chow: 23, 7. Bulldog: 17, 8. Boxer: 14,
9. Unknown (mixed): 14, 10. Jack Russell Terrier: 13
I normally wouldn’t have given a lot of thought to this except some ‘pit bull’ hate groups, which are apparently really horrible at math, have decided to try to use this information to ‘prove’ that the ‘pit bull’ ban in Miami Dade County is a great success – -because ‘pit bull’ bites are lower in Miami Dade County than they are in Broward County. However, they’ve apparently failed to note that Miami Dade county has 61% more dog bites than Broward County. Even when you take the population differences (Dade County has 35% more people) into account, Dade County still has a higher bite rate per capita than Broward County.
This doesn’t even begin to note the flaws in their logic. It should also be noted that there appears to be a significant difference in how breeds are reported when Dade County has 5 of its top 6 biting “breeds” being mixed breeds of some type, vs Broward County which has grouped all but 14 of their bites into nice, tidy breed categories which means a lot of the breed categories have become catch-all categories for mixes (which is fairly common for ‘pit bulls’ to get used as a catch all for any mixed breed Bulldog, boxer, bully etc).
I don’t put a whole lot of stock in comparing numbers between cities — just because differences in demographics, lifestyles, ways bites are reported, etc can vary quite substantially. Howevever I thought I’d bring this up to show how ridiculous some of the anti-pit bull groups have become in trying to read numbers without having any earthly clue as to what they’re looking at.
Miami-Dade County: Two decades of BSL has produced no positive results
July 29, 2009 Posted by russmead under Breed Bans
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by Karen Delise (reprinted with permission)
Update Aug. 1: Math Saves Dog in Challenge to BSL in Miami-Dade
In 1989, Miami/Dade County passed an ordinance banning from the county all “pit bull” dogs. The county claimed that pit bulls were different from other dogs, that they inflicted injuries different from the injuries that a person might suffer from another dog, and that they posed a greater danger than other dogs.
The county claimed that the ban would keep the community safer by reducing the number of serious incidents involving dogs.
Has the Miami-Dade ban reduced the number of dog bites? Has it averted severe dog attacks? Has it eliminated dog bite-related fatalities?
Can the county even identify which dogs it has banned?
The answer to all these questions is: NO.
Miscategorization and misidentification
On Clifton’s list of all dog attacks and the dogs’ breed, he makes several mistakes.
He lists the Australian Blue Heeler, the Australian Cattle Dog, the Blue Heeler, and the Queensland Heeler as separate breeds. These are all different names for the same breed. Listing these attacks under separate breed names skewed the results of the study.
It should be noted that Clifton does not attempt to divide pit bull attacks into separate breed names. If he were to do so, it is not clear what his study results would show; “pit bull” is a generic term for at least three different breeds of dogs, and dozens of other breeds are often lumped into the “pit bull” category based on their similar appearance.
There are also 33 attacks that were supposedly done by “Bull Mastiff (Presa Canario).” Bull Mastiffs and Presa Canarios are distinctly different breeds, and if there is question about which breed the dog is, this attack should not be listed as a “clearly identified breed.”
The report also attempts to identify the predominant breed in dogs. Clifton gives no reason as to why he listed an attack as being done by an Akita/Chow mix instead of a Chow/Akita mix. How did he determine that Beagle was the predominant breed in the attack done by a Beagle/German Shepherd Dog?
Clifton makes several spelling mistakes throughout his report. Misidentified breeds listed as a “Chox mix,” “Dauschund,” “Doge De Bordeaux,” “Fila Brasiero,” “Buff Mastiff,” “Great Pyranees,” and “Weimaeaner” compromise Clifton’s credibility.
Banning pit bulls won’t solve problem
By Gina Spadafori, Globe Correspondent
Sometimes I think having no pit bulls wouldn’t be that bad a thing, but not for the reasons you might imagine.
If pit bulls weren’t around, they couldn’t be beaten, starved, left chained outside with little protection from the elements, subjected to ear croppings with scissors and no pain relief, made to bear puppies with next to no food. And finally, if pit bulls weren’t around, they couldn’t be tossed dead (or nearly so) into a vacant lot when they come up on the losing side of a dogfight.
For every headline-grabbing attack by a pit bull, there are countless cruelties inflicted on these dogs by humans. As a person recently noted on a dog-related Web log: ”It’s amazing how many other kinds of dogs in the best homes bite. It’s amazing how many pit bulls in the worst homes don’t.”
But those who do . . . oh, what fear and anger they cause. It’s no surprise, given the horror of recent attacks, that the call to eliminate pit bulls has never been louder. But that call remains the wrong one: Breed-specific legislation is not the answer to the problem of dangerous dogs.
It doesn’t help much to argue that the odds of an attack by a pit bull are so low as to be insignificant compared with life’s other risks, not in the face of saturation media coverage of every such attack. It doesn’t help much to argue that a well-bred and properly raised pit bull can be a better companion than many other popular breeds, based on temperament-testing statistics that show these dogs to be stable and calm.
So let’s try this: If you want to be protected against a dog attack, banning the pit bull isn’t going to accomplish that goal. That’s because every large breed or mix you can think of, and many small ones you can’t imagine, have been involved in attacks on humans.
You cannot predict the likelihood of an attack by the type of dog, but you can see clear trends based on other criteria.
Poorly bred, unsocialized, unneutered, and untrained dogs are most often involved in attacks. If you want to prevent those attacks, you need to address those root causes.
We need to make it harder for people to casually breed and quickly sell dogs, and we need to make it easier to have animals neutered. We need to recognize that dog-fighting is as much of a danger to our communities as it is to the animals participating in this illegal but popular blood sport. We need to outlaw keeping dogs on chains, a cruel practice that leaves animals feeling isolated, territorial, and more likely to attack.
And even as we need to crack down on irresponsible and criminal dog owners, we need to help those people who want to do right. We need to educate prospective dog owners on responsible care, training, and socializing, so that they may raise dogs who are not dangerous.
And yes, we need to establish zero tolerance for all dangerous dogs, with no second chances: If a dog attacks someone, that animal needs to be put down.
We need to stop looking for scapegoats in the face of every pit bull, and address the human reasons behind the problem of dangerous dogs.
Only then can we hope to be safer around not only the pit bull, but all dogs. And maybe then the pit bull will be safer around us, too.
Q: Does BSL reduce dog bites?
A: No. BSL has not succeeded in reducing dog bite-related injuries wherever in the world it has been enacted. An analysis published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association explains one reason that BSL could not be expected to work even if particular breeds could be identified as high risk. The authors calculated the absurdly large numbers of dogs of targeted breeds who would have to be completely removed from a community in order to prevent even one serious dog bite-related injury. For example, in order to prevent a single hospitalization resulting from a dog bite, the authors calculate that a city or town would have to remove more than 100,000 dogs of a targeted group. To prevent a second hospitalization, double that number.[3]
• Denver, CO enacted a breed-specific ban in 1989. Citizens of Denver continue to suffer a higher rate of hospitalization from dog bite-related injuries after the ban, than the citizens of breed-neutral Colorado counties.[4]
• A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior, compared medically treated dog bites in Aragon, Spain for 5 years prior to and following enactment of Spain’s “Law on the legal treatment of the possession of dangerous animals” (sometimes referred to Spain’s Dangerous Animal Act) (2000). The results showed no significant effect in dog bite incidences when comparing before and after enactment of the BSL.[5]
• The Netherlands repealed a 15-year-old breed ban in 2008 after commissioning a study of its effectiveness. The study revealed that BSL was not a successful dog-bite mitigation strategy because it had not resulted in a decrease in dog bites. [6]
• The Province of Ontario in Canada enacted a breed ban in 2005. In 2010, based on a survey of municipalities across the Province, the Toronto Humane Society reported that, despite five years of BSL and the destruction of “countless” dogs, there had been no significant decrease in the number of dog bites.[7]
• Winnipeg, Manitoba enacted a breed ban in 1990. Winnipeg’s rate of dog bite-injury hospitalizations is virtually unchanged from that day to this, and remains significantly higher than the rate in breed-neutral, responsible pet ownership Calgary[8]
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.jMaySQOn.dpuf
What breeds of dogs have been targeted by BSL? A: Various breeds have been or currently are targeted by BSL. Until the law was repealed in 2009, Italy regulated the keeping of 17 breeds. In the United States, jurisdictions have either banned or put discriminatory restrictions on one or all of the following: Akita, “Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs”, Alaskan Malamute, “American Bandogge”, American Bulldog, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Belgian Malinois, Bullmastiff, Bull Terrier, Cane Corso, Chihuahua, Chow Chow, Dalmatian, Doberman Pinscher, Dogo Argentino, “Fila Brasileiro”, German Shepherd Dog, Miniature Bull Terrier, Neapolitan Mastiff, “Pit bull” (please note that “pit bull” is not a breed of dog), Perro de Presa Canario, Rottweiler, Shar Pei, Siberian Husky, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, “Tosa Inu”, and wolf-hybrids. These ordinances also target dogs suspected of being mixes of one or more of the named breeds. – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.jMaySQOn.dpuf
What is breed-specific legislation? A: Breed-specific legislation (BSL), also referred to as breed-discriminatory legislation (BDL), is a law or ordinance that prohibits or restricts the keeping of dogs of specific breeds, dogs presumed to be specific breeds, mixes of specific breeds, and/or dogs presumed to be mixes of one or more of those breeds. The most drastic form of BSL is a complete ban; but BSL also includes any laws or governmental regulations that impose separate requirements or limitations, including but not limited to: mandatory spay-neuter, mandatory muzzling, liability insurance requirements, special licensing and additional fees, mandatory microchipping or tattoos, owner / walker age requirements, property posting requirements, confinement and leash requirements, breed-specific pet limits, sale or transfer notification requirements, restrictions on access to certain public spaces with the dog [e.g.: public parks, school grounds], required town-issued items [e.g.: fluorescent collar; vest], training requirements, requirement that photos of the dog and/or owner be kept on town file. BSL, in all of its forms, results in the destruction of many pet dogs. – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.jMaySQOn.dpuf
Q: Aren’t certain breeds of dogs more likely to injure or bite than others? A: There is no evidence from the controlled study of dog bites that one kind of dog is more likely to bite a human being than another kind of dog. A recent AVMA survey covering 40 years and two continents concluded that no group of dogs should be considered disproportionately dangerous.[1] Additionally, in a recent multifactorial study published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association on the exceptionally rare events of dog bite-related fatalities, the researchers identified a striking co-occurrence of multiple, controllable factors in these cases.[2] Breed was not identified as a factor. – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.jMaySQOn.dpuf
THE NETHERLANDS
In June 2008, the Dutch government announced the repeal of their 15-year-long ban on pit bulls due to its failure to ensure public safety. Dog bites continued to rise in spite of the ban. The government is now looking into behavior-based, rather than breed-based, legislation. (Note that the article says the ban lasted 25 years; this is obviously incorrect if the ban passed in 1993.)
And check with them now, see what has happened. Their ban is on the way to being re-instated.
BSL Has No Support From Experts
In addition, there is no professional support for BSL, from lawmakers to dog breeders, rescuers and trainers to veterinarians. The following institutions/authorities have official anti-BSL policies:
Calgary & Canada
The Canadian Kennel Club (click here for policy)
The Canadian Veterinary Medical Association (CVMA) (click here to download PDF analysis)
The Toronto Humane Society
The Calgary Humane Society
The Edmonton Humane Society
The BC SPCA (click here for policy)
Bill Bruce, long-time Director of Animal & By-Law Services, Calgary, Alberta (click here and here to read past interviews, since “By-Law Bill” has since retired)
US/International
The American Bar Association (click here to download PDF statement)
The American Veterinary Medicine Association (AMVA) (click here for policy)
The American Kennel Club (click here for policies/info)
The President of the United States (August 2013)
The Humane Society of the United States (click here for policy)
The American Humane Association (click here for policy)
The American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) (click here for policy)
The Association of Pet Dog Trainers (APDT) (click here for policy)
Yes Jeff, we know there are volumes of pit bull propaganda out there and it can all be sourced back to the national canine “research” council and best friends animal society. We get it. HUE HUE HUE
What position do the leading animal-related organizations take on BSL?
All of the following national organizations oppose BSL: American Animal Hospital Association, American Dog Owner’s Association, American Humane Association, American Kennel Club, American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, American Veterinary Medical Association, Association of Pet Dog Trainers, Best Friends Animal Society, Canadian Kennel Club, Humane Society of the United States, International Association of Canine Professionals, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, and National Association of Obedience Instructors. In addition, many state and local-level veterinary medical associations and humane organizations oppose BSL.
Q. Aren’t certain breeds of dogs more likely to injure or bite than others?
No. There is no scientific evidence that one kind of dog is more likely than any other to injure a human being.[1] In fact, there is evidence to the contrary.[2] A recent survey of the controlled study of dog bites covering 40 years and two continents concluded that no group of dogs should be considered disproportionately dangerous.[3]
Q. Does BSL reduce dog bites?
No. BSL has not succeeded in reducing dog bite-related injuries wherever in the world it has been enacted.
• An analysis published in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association explains why BSL does not reduce serious dog bites. The authors calculated the absurdly large numbers of dogs of targeted breeds who would have to be completely removed from a community in order to prevent even one serious dog bite-related injury. For example, in order to prevent a single hospitalization resulting from a dog bite, the authors calculate that a city or town would have to remove more than 100,000 dogs of a targeted group. To prevent a second hospitalization, double that number.[4]
• Denver, CO enacted a breed ban in 1989. Citizens of Denver continue to suffer a higher rate of hospitalization from dog bite-related injuries after the ban, than the citizens of breed-neutral Colorado counties.[5]
• A study published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior (2007), compared medically treated dog bites in Aragon, Spain for 5 years prior to and following enactment of Spain’s “Law on the legal treatment of the possession of dangerous animals” (sometimes referred to Spain’s Dangerous Animal Act) (2000). The results showed no significant effect in dog bite incidences when comparing before and after enactment of the BSL.[6]
• The Netherlands repealed a 15-year-old breed ban in 2008 after commissioning a study of its effectiveness. The study revealed that BSL was not a successful dog-bite mitigation strategy because it had not resulted in a decrease in dog bites. [7]
• The Province of Ontario in Canada enacted a breed ban in 2005. In 2010, based on a survey of municipalities across the Province, the Toronto Humane Society reported that, despite five years of BSL and the destruction of “countless” dogs, there had been no significant decrease in the number of dog bites.[8]
• Winnipeg, Manitoba enacted a breed ban in 1990. Winnipeg’s rate of dog bite-injury hospitalizations is virtually unchanged from that day to this, and remains significantly higher than the rate in breed-neutral, responsible pet ownership Calgary.[9]
Q. How costly is it to implement and enforce BSL?
BSL is very costly, penalizes responsible pet owners, diverts resources, and is open to challenge.
• Use the Best Friends Fiscal Impact Calculator: https://bestfriends.guerrillaeconomics.net/ to calculate an estimate of the additional expenses for your community (and you as a taxpayer) that will result from BSL: costs for enforcement, kenneling, euthanasia and litigation, among others.
• Miami-Dade County banned “pit bulls” in 1989. The ban did not reduce dog bites, but has generated litigation costs. Hearing officer proceedings, as well as a circuit court case, have questioned the enforceability of the law.
• The Department of Justice guidelines for the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) state that it is contrary to the Act to deny a disabled person equal access to public facilities based upon the presumed breed of their service dog. This has exposed municipalities with BSL to litigation costs when they have attempted to deny such access based the presumed breed of a person’s service dog.
Q: What is the trend in BSL?
There is a growing awareness that BSL does not improve community safety and penalizes responsible dog owners and their family companions. Both the Netherlands and Italy have repealed their BSL in recent years. From January 2012-May 2013, three times as many American communities have either considered and rejected a breed- specific ordinance, or repealed an existing one, as have enacted BSL. Massachusetts, Nevada, Connecticut and Rhode Island have recently enacted state laws that prohibit their towns and counties from regulating dogs on the basis of breed. Sixteen states now prohibit BSL. The Obama Administration has announced its opposition to BSL, stating that “research shows that bans on certain types of dogs are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources.”[10]
Q. What is the best way to reduce dog bite-related incidents in a community?
Dogs cannot be characterized apart from people. At the heart of any public safety issue involving dogs is the need for responsible pet ownership. Effective laws hold dog owners responsible for the humane care, custody, and control of all dogs regardless of breed or type. Humane communities are safer communities.
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.dRb4HJiB.dpuf%5B1%5D Centers for Disease Control. (2008). Dog Bite: Fact Sheet. Retrieved from: https://www.cdc.gov/HomeandRecreationalSafety/Dog-Bites/dogbite-factsheet.html.
[2] Ott, S.A., Schalke, E., von Gaertner, A.M., & Hackbarth, H. (2008). Is There a Difference? Comparison of Golden Retrievers and Dogs Affected by Breed-Specific Legislation Regarding Aggressive Behavior.Journal of Veterinary Behavior, (3)3: 134-140.
[3] American Veterinary Medical Association: Animal Welfare Division. (2012). Dog Bite Risk and Prevention: The Role of Breed. Retrieved from: https://www.avma.org/KB/Resources/Backgrounders/Pages/The-Role-of-Breed-in-Dog-Bite-Risk-and-Prevention.aspx
[4] Patronek, G.J., Slater, M., & Marder, A. (2010). Use of a number-needed-to-ban calculation to illustrate limitations of breed-specific legislation in decreasing the risk of dog bite-related injury.. Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association,237(7): 788-792.
[5] National Canine Research Council. (2013). Denver’s Breed-Specific Legislation: Brutal, Costly, and Ineffective. Retrieved from:https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/Denver%20BSL%20Brutal,%20Costly,%20and%20Ineffective%20_%20Aug%202013.pdf
[6] Rosado, B., García-Belenguer, S., León, M., & Palacio, J. (2007). Spanish dangerous animals act: Effect on the epidemiology of dog bites. Journal of Veterinary Behavior, 2(5): 166-174.
[7] Cornelissen, J.,M., & Hopster, H. (2010). Dog bites in the Netherlands: a study of victims, injuries, circumstances and aggressors to support evaluation of breed specific legislation. Veterinary Journal, 186(3): 292-298.
[8] Peat, D. (2010, April 28). Pit bull ban fails to reduce dog bites. The Toronto Sun. Retrieved from:https://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/04/28/13753106.html
[9] National Canine Research Council. (2012). Winnipeg, Manitoba Far Behind Calgary in Community Safety. Retrieved from:https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/uploaded_files/tinymce/Winnipeg,%20Manitoba%20far%20behind%20Calgary%20in%20community%20safety_July%209,%202012.pdf
[10] The White House. (2013). Breed-Specific Legislation Is a Bad Idea. Retrieved from:https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/ban-and-outlaw-breed-specific-legislation-bsl-united-states-america-federal-level/d1WR0qcl
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.dRb4HJiB.dpuf
BSL Doesn’t Work And Often Gets Repealed
First, it should be noted that breed-specific legislation (BSL) is widely acknowledged as ineffective. It hasn’t been found to reduce dog bites or attacks and it often doesn’t even address breeds of dogs responsible for the most bites or attacks.
Ontario has a pit bull ban, and while dog bites have decreased in Toronto since 2005 when the ban was introduced, there has actually no decline in dog bites in that province, at the cost of “countless” dogs being destroyed. And it’s important to remember correlation does not equal causation. After all, dog bites in Calgary also decreased from 2005 to 2008, and there has never been BSL here.
Update: A comment below has drawn my attention to this article showing that Toronto has several different statistics on the issue, others showing no decline in dog attacks, together with stats from other Ontario cities – London and Ottawa – also showing no decline in incidents.
Winnipeg, Manitoba also has a pit bull ban, and a new study “inconclusively” suggests a corrlation. Dog bites there have also not decreased over time, but the study suggests serious attacks only show a decline when compared to another Manitoba city that does not have BSL.
What could this mean for Calgary? Not much. It should be noted that Winnipeg is a smaller city (660,000 to 1.1 million) with fewer dogs and 44% more dog bites – 289 in 2012 to Calgary’s 201. The two cities tackle pet issues very differently, including Winnipeg’s BSL and limiting the number of pets in a household. Yet our statistics remain better. Calgary’s dog licensing rates are upwards of 90%, while Winnipeg is sitting at 40%. If 35% of Canadian households have a dog, that’s 385,000 dogs in Calgary to Winnipeg’s 231,000 – working out to mean you are still twice as likely to get bit by a dog in Winnipeg than in Calgary.
Despite the cautious suggestion that BSL may have impacted Winnipeg slightly, that remains the exception to the rule; countless other governments have witnessed Ontario-like results (read: none). The UK has seen dog bite statistics increase by 66% while BSL has been in place.
Not to mention the extreme difficulty and expense in enforcing this sort of legislation, when pit bulls aren’t even a recognized or registered breed (and what about mixed breed dogs?) – it’s hard to ban something that’s not well defined. From a strictly pragmatic stance, the cost of the legislation is not worth the outcome, since the only real outcomes are the mass seizure, impounding, and euthanization of these dogs, and litigation costs of the BSL – all on the tax payer’s dollar.
As fast as governments introduce the legislation, other governments are repealing it. Some examples of places that have repealed their BSL after acknowledging it didn’t work:
Edmonton, Alberta in March 2012 (click here for report)
The Netherlands in 2008, after 25 years and no results
Italy, in 2009, after 6 years and attempting to ban 90 breeds of dog
Germany, in 2002
Connecticut, USA, June 2013
Ohio, USA in 2012
Topeka, Kansas, after discovering repealing BSL would save the city money (click here for story)
If you want to see a full list of (mostly American) governments that have either declined to enact or repealed breed-specific legislation, this website has compiled an exhaustive list tracking from 2003-2011.
Why Breed Specific Legislation Does Not Protect Public from Dangerous Dogs
Dec. 2, 2013 — Research conducted by animal behavior experts challenges the basis of breed specific legislation designed to protect the public from ‘dangerous’ dogs.
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A team from the University of Lincoln, UK, concluded that rather than making people safer, current legislation could be lulling them into a false sense of security.
Dr Tracey Clarke and Professors Daniel Mills and Jonathan Cooper from Lincoln’s School of Life Sciences set out to discover the source of people’s perceptions about ‘typical behaviors’ associated with different breeds of dog. Their findings were recently published in the journal Human Animal Interaction Bulletin published by the American Psychological Association, in a freely available paper “Acculturation — Perceptions of breed differences in behavior of the dog (Canis familiaris)”.
Professor Mills said: “This work provides good scientific evidence to explain why the pursuit by governments of breed specific legislation to reduce the risk of harm to citizens is not only doomed to failure, but also giving people a false sense of security, which may actually be making the situation worse.”
The researchers applied a theory known as the ‘contact hypothesis’ — used by sociologists to understand the origin of racial stereotyping and other forms of prejudice.
They surveyed more than 160 people to examine if their contact with dogs influenced their tendency to believe populist and negative breed stereotypes.
They found significant variations in attitudes between people who owned dogs or had regular contact with them, and those who did not. More than half (54%) of respondents who identified themselves as “experienced or knowledgeable” of dogs disagreed with the statement that some breeds are more aggressive than others. Only 15% of respondents who said they had little or no experience of dogs held the same view.
Similarly, more than half of the “experienced” respondents felt there was no valid reason for breed specific legislation, whereas less than 1 in 10 of the inexperienced respondents felt the same.
The results were consistent with the prediction that not just the level but also the quality of contact with dogs are major influences on the tendency to believe populist breed stereotypes, despite scientific evidence which challenges the validity of such generalisations.
The variability within a breed is nearly always greater than the variability between breeds for behavioral traits, meaning while there may be differences on average, when it comes to assessing the likelihood that a particular individual will behave in a certain way generalisations are often unsound. The type of person attracted towards certain breeds and encouraging certain behaviors may be a much better predictor.
It was discovered that a dog’s visible characteristics informed strong attitudes, resulting in over-generalization. Not only bull-breeds but also those with much more superficial characteristics such as being well-muscled, or even short-haired, were stigmatised more often as dangerous by those with less experience or knowledge of dogs.
Attraction to certain types on the basis of their appearance, can then lead to these being preferred for use as a weapon or status dog, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy about their behavior through environmental rather than genetic effects.
The team suggest that further scientific research is needed to improve understanding of the origins and basis of negative breed stereotypes, and that this in turn should be used to inform future legislation.
At petMD, we’ve has had some long and spirited discussions about dog breeds and human attacks by dogs. Many contributors to the discussion rightly pointed out the lack of reliable data surrounding this issue. Yet the political answer to the situation is always breed specific legislation (BSL). In other words, ban the ownership or restrict the activity of specific breeds alleged to be involved in human attacks. Municipalities persist with this narrow focus despite studies that indicate the ineffectiveness of these programs
The results of a 10-year study recently reported in the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association sheds further light on the complexity of this issue. It identifies preventable factors that are far more significant than breed.
The researchers examined the data from 256 dog bite-related fatalities in the U.S. between the years 2000-2009. They generated the following statistics for factors involved in the fatal attacks:
– In 87% there was an absence of an able-bodied person to intervene
– 45% of the victims were less than 5-years old
– 85% of the victims had only incidental or no familiarity with the dogs
– 84% of the dogs were not neutered
– 77% of the victims had compromised ability (age or other conditions) to interact appropriately with dogs
– 76% of the dogs were kept isolated from regular positive human interactions
– 38% of the dog owners had histories of prior mismanagement of dogs
– 21% of the dog owners had a history of abuse or neglect of dogs
– In 81% of the attacks 4 or more of the above factors were involved
– 31% of the dog breeds differed from media reports
– 40% of the dog breeds differed from both media and animal control reports
– Only 18% of the dogs had validated (DNA) breed identification
– 20 breeds and 2 known mixed breeds were represented in the attacks
These statistics indicate that most of the factors surrounding dog-bite related fatalities are preventable and unrelated to dog breed.
The first statistic shows the obvious lack of supervision in these attacks. Responsible dog and victim parental or caretaker supervision most certainly could have prevented the majority of these deaths.
73% of the dogs were chained or isolated in fenced outdoor areas or indoor areas. Only 15% of the dogs were allowed to roam. Nearly three-quarters of the attacks occurred on the dog owner’s property. Restricting access to these areas could prevent many attacks.
Interestingly, 67% of the older victims that were deemed compromised were under the influence of drugs or alcohol, another preventable circumstance. Only five of the victims were compromised due to Alzheimer’s, dementia, or uncontrollable seizure disorders.
The reporting errors in this study are also disturbing. Fatal dog attacks are always media sensations and heavily reported. Yet we can only trust that 60% of the reports of breed identification from the media and involved animal control officials are accurate. And unfortunately, it is media reports rather than fact that spur the political decisions that lead to breed specific legislation. Based on this study, 20 breeds and 2 mixed breeds should face legislation rather than the few that are presently targeted.
The ugly truth about this study is that it points to human behavior as the cause of dog attacks on humans. Social responsibility cannot be legislated. Many of these dog owners had histories of animal mismanagement, yet the penalties or consequences were inadequate to change the behavior. It would have been interesting if the study had also looked at previous behaviors and histories of the parents of the young victims.
Whether programs for responsible pet ownership, bite prevention education, or dog related parent supervision education are widely effective has yet to be proven. Certainly breed specific legislation is not the answer. A recent Canadian study showed that there were no significant differences in the number of bite related hospital visits before and after communities adopted breed specific legislation.
Dr. Ken Tudor
“Dog Bite Fatalities: Breed or Human Problem?” originally appeared onPetMD.com.
Monday, August 11, 2014
Kerry Vinson Revisits The Ontario Dog Owner’s Liability Act
In 2011 I wrote an article for the Toronto Pet Daily on the Ontario Dog Owner’s Liability Act, in which I pointed out that the 2005 amendments to this Act had resulted in many injustices to both dogs and their owners throughout the Province. Now three years later I have been asked to write a follow-up article to see if the situation has changed or improved for Ontarians and their dogs. Having been involved in the original 2006 court challenge to the DOLA amendments (as an Expert Witness) I am in a unique position of being privy to the provincial government’s motivation and rationale at the time to implement this legislation, and due to my continuing involvement in numerous DOLA-related court cases since then I have been able to monitor the consequences of this law.
With this in mind, I want to report to the people of Ontario who are not dog owners that (1) you are not any safer from the possibility of a dog bite as a result of the legislation, and (2) if you own a dog you are at an increased risk of suffering many legal and financial consequences even though these may be completely unjustified. How can this be, you may wonder, wasn’t the purpose of the 2005 amendments to reduce a growing problem of bites in Ontario from certain breeds of dogs identified as dangerous? According to the same government that passed the legislation and is still in power, their Act has been successful. Let’s cut away all of the political posturing and look at what actually has happened since then:
Firstly, although many dog bites go unreported and province-wide statistics are poorly kept, all indications are that the number of bites in Ontario has remained fairly constant since 2005 before the legislation was passed.
Secondly, the 2005 rationale of the amendments and the introduction of Breed Specific Legislation was to remove the risk of bites from certain breeds (identified by sensationalized media reports and not any scientific basis whatsoever) as being more dangerous than other dogs. This concept was completely discredited by every qualified expert in canine behaviour who testified at the “sham” hearings conducted by the government at the time, but all of these bona fide experts were completely ignored when formulating BSL. More on this in a moment.
Thirdly and finally, there has been a significant increase in lawsuits against dog owner’s relating to the wording of the Act that specifies a dog doesn’t actually have to bite someone for its owner to be charged, it only has to appear to be menacing to someone. This has allowed virtually anyone who is afraid of dogs or doesn’t like dogs, or who doesn’t like their neighbor who owns a dog, to launch a lawsuit which is supported by the language of the Act. Needless to say that what may appear to be a dog engaging in normal, non-aggressive barking can be interpreted by someone else as exhibiting menacing behaviour, whether it is or not. It is a totally subjective concept; nonetheless, personal injury attorneys in Toronto are now publicly advertising for people who have been “menaced” by a dog to contact them. I have been personally involved in some cases where the awards being sought are not only in the thousands of dollars, but over a million dollars; and have seen many dog owners lives turned into a living nightmare. The language of the Act infers that dog owners are guilty as charged unless they can prove themselves to be innocent – a complete reversal of our concept of fairness under the law.
Let’s now go back to my second point, which was that at the original hearings (which I referred to as a sham) all of the legitimate Experts in canine behaviour who testified were completely ignored by the government of the day when they passed the legislation. Despite denials and half-truths by that same government, hard evidence continues to confirm the worst fears of those who were opposed to the Bill. The recent position statement by the most respected authority in North America in the field of dog behaviour (not the politicians) confirms the premise that I put forth during my testimony at the 2006 court challenge to the DOLA amendments:
“The American Veterinary Society of Animal Behaviour is concerned about the propensity of various communities’ reliance on breed-specific legislation as a tool to reduce the risk and incidence of dog bites to humans. The AVSAB’s position is that such legislation – often called breed specific legislation (BSL) — is ineffective and can lead to a false sense of community safety as well as welfare concerns for dogs identified often incorrectly as belonging to specific breeds.”
The Position Statement goes on to unequivocally say that “visual identification is unreliable” and “DNA tests reveal that even professionals experienced in identifying dog breeds (veterinarians, dog trainers, breeders, animal control officers, shelter workers, etc.) are unable to reliably identify breeds visually”. Furthermore, “follow-up studies confirm that visual breed identification is highly inconsistent and inaccurate”. Finally, the AVSAB goes on to say that “Responsible dog ownership and public education must be a primary focus of any dog bite prevention policy”, not BSL.
At this point you might say that the provincial government didn’t really know what to do about the dog bite problem in Ontario in 2005, so they came up with the amendments to DOLA and BSL in lieu of any better approach. Unfortunately, you would be completely wrong!!! This is so because in 1999 the province of Ontario implemented an official Provincial Inquest (the Trempe Inquest) to examine the issue and come up with solutions to the problem of canine aggression. As I was one of the designated “experts” who was asked by the Ontario Coroner’s Office to testify at this inquest, I am eminently familiar with the proceedings which took place, and the 36 Recommendations to prevent future serious dog bite incidents. Why did the government choose to ignore the great majority of these Recommendations in 2005, and why today in 2014 are the most important and effective of these recommendations still being ignored?
These are questions that dog owners, and anyone concerned with public safety, need to be asking their MPP. It’s time (actually past the time) for Ontario legislators to admit that the 2005 DOLA amendments have not reduced the number of dog bites in the Province nor made Ontarians any safer from this risk. It’s time for our lawmakers to pay attention to the Recommendations from the Trempe Inquest and implement most (if not all) of them, and to rescind or rewrite the completely ineffective and unsupported by scientific proof policies that have been in effect for almost ten years now, and done more harm than good.
Kerry Vinson, BA (PSYCH), has been designated as an Expert Witness in the area of canine aggression and re-training in numerous court cases between 1999 and 2014. He has also authored over 75 articles on dog behaviour for veterinary publications and popular magazines, in addition to providing assessments and dog related court services for municipalities, shelters, and private dog owners. For more information, visit: http://www.animalbehaviourconsultants.com.
Bills to prohibit breed discrimination by local governments are pending in Washington, Missouri and South Dakota. A bill is set to be introduced in Utah in the coming weeks.
“Every American who follows the right safety rules as a responsible dog owner should be allowed to own whatever breed of dog they choose,” said Ledy VanKavage, senior legislative attorney for Best Friends Animal Society. “Communities should be protected against any dangerous dog, no matter the breed, and abused or neglected dogs should be protected from abusive owners. Owners and dogs should be judged on their behavior.”
“This movement away from breed discriminatory legislation–sometimes called ‘breed specific legislation’ or BSL– is based on studies and experience that demonstrate that laws targeting dogs based solely on breed are ineffective in reducing dog bites,” VanKavage added. “They also are arbitrary, difficult and expensive to enforce, violate basic property rights and ultimately punish responsible dog owners and innocent family pets.”
“We all want safe and humane communities,” VanKavage said. “Everyone benefits from a safe society – both people and pets. But instead of punishing innocent dogs for resembling a specific breed, communities should concentrate on holding reckless owners accountable and responsible. The simple truth is that breed discrimination doesn’t work.”
Studies in a number of countries with breed-discriminatory laws show that breed simply is not a factor in the frequency of dog bites. Because of this, more and more jurisdictions are enacting comprehensive breed-neutral ordinances that focus on the ensuring the proper behavior of both dogs and owners.
All the Legit Organizations are Against BSL.
The Humane Society of the U.S., the ASPCA, the United Kennel Club, the American Animal Hospital Association, the American Kennel Club, Best Friends Animal Society, the CDC, even the Obama administration (and so many more) is against BSL.
9. The Public is Against BSL.
According to a poll commissioned by Best Friends Animal Society, 84 percent of those surveyed said “local, state or federal governments should not infringe on a person’s right to own whatever breed of dog they choose.”
10. BSL Wastes Money.
Enforcement costs a fortune, from staffing to litigation to the price of unnecessarily killing dogs in shelters. Best Friends Animal Society even offers a calculator that estimates fiscal impact. In Miami, a city that still enforces BSL, it rings in at $603,445 annually … with no reduction in dog bites to show for it.
The good news is, many organizations are working to strike down these antiquated laws, and you can help.
PRINCE GEORGE’S COUNTY, MD
In 1996, Prince George’s County, Maryland, instituted a pit bull ban. In 2003, a task force set out to determine whether the ban was having the desired effect in a number of areas, including public safety.
The task force found that
The “public safety benefit is unmeasurable.”
Across the board, dog bites had decreased among all breeds at about the same rate. The ban did not appear to have had any noticeable effect on public safety.
What’s more, the task force expressed concern that the ban might actually be having a negative effect on public safety; animal control facilities and workers were stretched thin because they were constantly having to respond to “pit bull” complaints and house alleged pit bulls. The task force felt that this had a negative effect on animal control’s ability to respond to other types of violations.
The task force urged Prince George’s County to rescind the ban and institute non-breed-specific dangerous dog laws.
Key members of the Maryland Senate and House have reached a compromise on how to undo a Court of Appeals ruling last year that labeled pit bulls as an inherently dangerous breed.
Identical bills have been introduced in both chambers to deal with the issue of who is liable when a dog bites a person, reflecting an agreement that eluded lawmakers during a special session last August.
Sen. Brian Frosh, chairman of the Judicial Proceedings Committee, said the legislation would apply to all dogs, not just pit bulls, overruling the court’s breed-specific decision. It would also eliminate what is known to some as the “one bite” doctrine under which a dog owner can be excused from liability if the pet has not bitten somebody else previously.
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“The burden is shifted from the victim to know the propensity of the dog to bite or be dangerous,” said Frosh, a Montgomery County Democrat. “It’s fair to victims, it’s fair to landlords, it’s fair to pet owners.”
Frosh and his House counterpart, Judiciary Committee Chairman Joseph F. Vallario Jr., promised quick action on the emergency bill, which would take effect upon its signature by the governor if passed by a supermajority in both houses. Vallario, a Prince George’s County Democrat, said his panel will hold a hearing Jan. 31.
One of the concerns raised by the court decision is that it held landlords liable for injuries caused when a tenant’s pit bull bit somebody. Animal advocates have expressed concerns that landlords would require tenants to give up their pets in order to keep their housing.
The bill returns the law on pit bulls to where it stood before the court decision, making it more difficult to win a case against a landlord. A plaintiff would have to show that the landlord — or housing or condominium association — knew or should have know that the dog was dangerous.
At the same time, the measure would make it easier for victims to prove a case against an owner in all dog attack cases, regardless of breed, than it was before the court decision.
Frosh said the issues that divided the Senate and House last year were worked out in talks between himself and Del. Luiz R. S. Simmons, a Montgomery County Democrat who sits on the committee that will handle the legislation in the House.
Simmons said the House and Senate divided last year over the question of whether to apply a “strict liability” standard under which the dog owner would in many cases be automatically responsible for any injury caused by the pet. He said the Senate agreed to drop strict liability under the compromise, which provides that an owner could still call in witnesses to testify that the dog had not previously shown any signs of aggression.
A strict liability standard would have had unintended consequences, Simmons said. “It would have caused insurance policies for homeowners to spike in ways that couldn’t be predicted,” he said.
Owners would still retain all the previous common law defenses that existed before the decision, including trespassing and provocation, Simmons said.
The compromise was endorsed by representatives of landlords and animal advocates.
“Something needed to be done because we’ve been the bad guys since the ruling,” said Michael Gisriel, a lobbyist for the Maryland Multi-Family Housing Association.
Tami Santelli, Maryland director of the Humane Society said the compromise addresses the organization’s concerns that the decision was forcing Marylanders to choose between their dogs and their homes.
“Shelters are seeing more pit bulls come in,” she said. “It’s been harder to adopt pit bulls out.”
Read more: https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/politics/blog/bal-senate-house-reach-compromise-on-pit-bull-issue-20130117,0,6931805.story#ixzz2oaw2s47P
Risk Assessment and the Population Problem
One of the most common and enduring myths surrounding the oft-abused CDC report on fatal dog attacks (see below) is that it somehow demonstrates that certain breeds of dogs are “more likely” to attack or kill than other breeds.
The CDC has made it clear, both in the preface and the conclusion of their study, as well as on their website below the link to the study, that the study’s statistics cannot be interpreted in that manner.
In order to determine whether a breed of dog is “riskier” than another breed, a standard risk calculation must be performed. The easiest way to understand this calculation is through an example.
If you record one bite by a green dog and ten bites by purple dogs, which is more likely to bite—a green dog or a purple dog? If you look at the numbers alone, you might think that purple dogs are more dangerous than green dogs, because there are more bites by purple dogs.
However, it turns out that there are five green dogs total, one of which bit. And there are one hundred purple dogs total, ten of which bit. Now which type of dog is more likely to bite? Based on the data, one out of five green dogs have bitten, or 20%, while only one out of ten purple dogs have bitten, or 10%.
Once we know what the total population of green and purple dogs is, we are able to calculate risk.
And as the CDC has determined, it is not possible to accurately provide total population data for all breeds or types of dogs. Additionally, there are a number of complicating factors, including how to categorize mixed breed dogs.
And to add to the difficulty, while risk assessment might work if all dogs were genetically identical and were raised and kept in identical environments, this does not reflect reality. Individual dogs have widely varying temperaments and are raised and trained by different owners in different environments, so there are a number of factors beside breed that play into whether a dog is likely to bite or not. In fact, there are a handful of environmental factors (such as the way the dog is kept) that are far more predictive of aggressive behavior than a dog’s breed or type. (Delise, 2002, 2007)
Abstract
The effectiveness and suitability of legislation regarding the issue of dangerous dogs, especially those targeting so-called “dangerous breeds” (DB), have been the object of a lot of criticism. However, the shortage of scientific studies in this field makes an objective assessment of the impact of current legislation difficult. In the present study, dog bite-related incidents from Aragón (Spain) were analyzed for a 10-year periods (1995 to 2004). With the aim of assessing the impact of the Spanish Dangerous Animals Act on the epidemiology of dog bites, data from the non-legislated (1995 to 1999) and the legislated period (2000 to 2004) were compared in 2 different areas (low- and high-populated areas). According to the results, the population density did exert a significant effect on the incidence of dog bites, whereas the legislation in force did not. Popular breeds such as the German shepherd and crossbreed dogs accounted for the great majority of the incidents during the 2 periods of study. Specifically, the German shepherd proved to be over-represented significantly among the canine population. Dogs in the dangerous breeds list, on the other hand, were involved in a small proportion of the incidents both before and after the introduction of legislation. The present results suggest that the implementation of the Spanish legislation exerted little impact on the epidemiology of dog bites. Besides the scarce effectiveness, the results suggest that the criteria to regulate only so-called DB were unsuitable and unjustified. It is hoped that this study will be helpful in the elaboration of future regulation measures in this matter.
Stereotypes are common when talking about humans. But there is a lot of discrimination that affects dog breeds as well. So much so that Breed-Specific Legislation or laws are enacted which range from making it illegal to possess certain breeds, to regulating ownership with the intention to reduce dog attacks. Technically, these dogs are thus labeled legally as “dangerous.”
According to the ASPCA though, there is little evidence to support the claim that these laws make communities safer for people or other companion animals. The organization also says that the CDC also decided not to support the BSL after following a thorough study of human fatalities resulting from dog bites.
Here is a list of Breed-Specific Laws by state.
BSL Studies
The available studies on breed specific legislation all lead to the same conclusion…. dog bites do not decrease in communities where breed bans and/or regulations have been passed. In fact, the statistics related to dog bites remain at relatively the same rate year after year. If the goal of breed specific legislation is to reduce and prevent injury from dog bites – yet dog bites continue to occur at comparable rates year after year, even in communities with BSL – it is quite clear that breed specific legislation does little to protect the public from dog bites. The below studies do an excellent job at illustrating the ineffectiveness of breed specific laws.
You can access the studies and reports where available by clicking the highlighted text.
In 1996, a Scottish study entitled “Does the Dangerous Dogs Act Protect Against Animal Attacks” looked at the three month period before the implementation of BSL and the three month period after said implementation. The study found that the banned or regulated breeds contributed to only a small percentage of attacks. The study further revealed that Alsatians and mongrels (mixed breed dogs) were the most common breed involved (in 24.2% and 18.2% attacks, respectively), while the restricted breeds accounted for only 6.1% of the attacks.
In September 2002, the Administrative Court of Berlin ruled null and void the government of Lower Saxony, Germany’s breed specific law related to 14 breeds of dogs. This ruling was based, in part, by a study by Esther Schalke, PhD, DVM, which demonstrated that breed specific legislation was ineffective.
In June 2008, the Netherlands repealed a 15 year ban on pit bulls after research proved that it did not improve public safety and dog bite incidents did not decrease.
In March 2009, Italy repealed its long-standing breed specific law in which 17 dogs were identified as “dangerous breeds.” The breed ban was replaced with a law making owners more responsible for their pet’s training and behavior.
In June 2008, a report regarding the United Kingdom’s Dangerous Dog Act of 1991 was issued. According to the report commissioned by pet insurer LV, the number of people hospitalised for dog attacks has increased by almost 50% in the past decade — this is despite having breed specific legislation in place since 1991.
SURELY SOMEONE HAS HAD SUCCESS WITH BSL?
The effects of BSL on public safety are seriously understudied, especially by the scientific community.
The few scientific studies that exist have indicated that BSL has little to no effect on public safety. In some cases, as in the U.K., dog bites appear to be a growing problem in spite of BSL.
To date, there are no scientific studies anywhere that confirm BSL or breed bans have had a significant positive effect on public safety.
The reasons for this lack of data are numerous:
Some cities that pass BSL fail to collect bite data after passage of the legislation. They assume that the problem is solved, and do not look into the issue again.
Or, as with Aurora, the city changes its method of bite data collection so that it becomes difficult if not impossible to compare pre- and post-BSL dog bites.
Sometimes the city only tracks bites by “pit bulls” and not other breeds, so it is not possible to discern whether another breed is causing more problems after passage of BSL.
Often, the city does not make its dog bite data freely and easily available upon request. The reasons why are unclear. One could surmise that this may be because of improper or outdated methods of record-keeping, overburdened office workers, or embarrassment over unfavorable statistics.
Breed identification and many other issues raise questions as to the accuracy and validity of many dog bite statistics.
There is no uniform method for collecting dog bite information, nor is there a primary organization to which all dog bites are reported.
In the few cases where sufficient data has been scientifically gathered and analyzed, BSL has not been shown to reduce dog bites or improve public safety
BSL Tears Families Apart.
If a breed ban is in effect in a community, authorities have the right to take a dog from its family. Often, these dogs end up euthanized, despite the fact that they have a loving home.
6. Researchers Have Identified the Factors That Lead to Dog Bites. Breed Isn’t One of Them.
According to stats on dog bite-related fatalities published by the National Canine Research Council, factors include:
no able-bodied person being present to intervene (87.1 percent)
the victim having no familiar relationship with the dog(s) (85.2 percent)
the owner’s prior mismanagement of the dog(s) (37.5 percent)
and the owner’s abuse or neglect of dog(s) (21.1 percent).
According to their research, these and other factors were present in “80.5 percent of cases.”
7. Identifying a “Pit Bull” is Completely Subjective.
Because the term refers to a whole host of breeds and mixes, shelter workers and city officials often wrongfully label dogs as pit bulls, which can mean a death sentence for the animal involved. According to the the Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association 2013 paper, in cases of bite fatalities, “the breed(s) of the dog or dogs could not be reliably identified in more than 80 percent of cases.”
What breeds of dogs have been targeted by BSL? A: Various breeds have been or currently are targeted by BSL. Until the law was repealed in 2009, Italy regulated the keeping of 17 breeds. In the United States, jurisdictions have either banned or put discriminatory restrictions on one or all of the following: Akita, “Alapaha Blue Blood Bulldogs”, Alaskan Malamute, “American Bandogge”, American Bulldog, American Staffordshire Terrier, American Pit Bull Terrier, Belgian Malinois, Bullmastiff, Bull Terrier, Cane Corso, Chihuahua, Chow Chow, Dalmatian, Doberman Pinscher, Dogo Argentino, “Fila Brasileiro”, German Shepherd Dog, Miniature Bull Terrier, Neapolitan Mastiff, “Pit bull” (please note that “pit bull” is not a breed of dog), Perro de Presa Canario, Rottweiler, Shar Pei, Siberian Husky, Staffordshire Bull Terrier, “Tosa Inu”, and wolf-hybrids. These ordinances also target dogs suspected of being mixes of one or more of the named breeds. – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
The Calgary Model
The animal control bylaw in Calgary, Alberta, Canada has been hailed by many as a HUGE success. While other cities and provinces in Canada are banning breeds, Calgary is choosing education program and stronger enforcement. What’s the end result? By all accounts, reports and statistics, the bylaw is working! Not only that, the bylaw works so well and the results are so highly praised, Calgary is inspiring animal control officials outside of Canada to use the bylaw as a model for their own animal control ordinances.
The following is written by Dana Grove:
The bylaw officers in Calgary have taken a stand against breed banning, and responded to dog bite concerns with a tougher licensing program and stronger enforcement. The City of Calgary also spends considerable funds on dog safety public awareness and education campaigns. Research shows that just 1 hour of dog safety training in grades 2 and 3 can reduce these attacks by 80%.
“We don’t punish breeds, we punish behavior,” said chief bylaw officer Bill Bruce. “The bottom line is, we believe all dogs are capable of biting.”
In Calgary, 90 per cent of dogs are licensed, allowing bylaw officers to keep track of pets and owners. The city also has a strict fine structure that includes a $250 penalty for chase incidents and $350 fines for bites. The bylaw also allows the officers to declare specific dogs as “dangerous” and this label brings with it higher license fees, muzzling rules and age restrictions on the dog’s handlers. The bylaw states that a dog can only be destroyed by owner request or court order.
The county of Newell in Alberta received dozens of letters and e-mails from around the world from people who oppose breed restrictions, said deputy Reeve Jack Harbinson.
“We decided after listening to the people, they were right,” he said.
The success of their actions? Approximately 1000 reported dog bites in 1985 and 260 reported dog bites in 2003.
Calgary’s dangerous dog legislation was implemented in response to the bite problem. Dangerous dog, not dangerous breed. The results speak for themselves – a 70% drop in the number of OVERALL dog bites.
The measures Calgary has taken have shown results, and set a model and a precedent that should be implemented across Canada. THIS is the model Ontario should be looking at…
https://www.bdnhumanesociety.com/calgary_solution.htm
Calgary dog attacks fall to lowest level in 25 years
City a leader in reducing canine problems, says top bylaw officer
By Sean Myers, Calgary HeraldFebruary 21, 2009
Attacks by aggressive dogs are at the lowest level they’ve been in 25 years despite a steady population growth and the absence of breed-specific legislation brought in to tackle canine issues in other jurisdictions.
Despite the low numbers, Calgary’s top bylaw officer plans to delve deeper into the causes of dog attacks to try to bring the incidents even lower.
“This is exactly what we’ve been targeting,” said Bill Bruce. “Our ultimate goal, of course, is to get it to zero, or as close to that as possible.”
Bruce said Calgary is a leader in reducing dog attacks in Canada, noting that he often receives invitations from animal services around the world to talk about the work done here to reduce dog bites.
Calgary bylaw officers recorded 340 reported aggressive dog incidents in 2008 which included chases, bites and damage to property.
Of those, 145 complaints were bites.
In 2007, 374 aggressive dog calls were made, including 137 bites, and in 2006, of 402 aggressive dog complaints, 199 were for bites.
By comparison, back in 1985, the city received a whopping 1,938 aggressive dog complaints, including 621 bites, at a time when Calgary had a population of just over 600,000.
A new pet owner bylaw was brought in three years ago that included stiffer fines and a recognition that aggressive behaviour in dogs is normally traced back to irresponsible owners. Bruce said both the heavier penalties — ranging from $350 to $1,500, to euthanizing the dog–and the philosophy of blaming bad owners rather than pets has helped reduce incidents.
This year, Bruce is launching a pilot project where he’ll have six officers dedicated to following up every aggressive dog complaint to identify common factors in attacks that can be addressed in future bylaw enforcement and public education campaigns.
“We want to look at everything that led up to an aggressive dog attack,” said Bruce. “We’re hoping to find four to six common things that people do that causes dogs to bite. Our goal is not to have anyone bitten by a dog.”
At the same time Bruce investigates softer approaches to addressing pet owner issues, he’s also been given a bigger stick with which to penalize chronically non-compliant dog owners.
In the fall, bylaw enforcement gained the right to tag a dog as a nuisance pet, which means doubling the fines on the owner.
One dog has already received this designation, according to Bruce.
Brandy Campbell-Biggs, president of Pit Bulls For Life, a non-profit animal rescue operation geared specifically toward pit bulls, said targeting bad owners instead of stigmatizing entire breeds is the key to reducing aggressive incidents.
While dog bites have been going down, the number of pit bulls coming to the city has been increasing, she said.
She doesn’t know how many there are in the city, but her organization has placed 160 pit bulls in foster homes or with permanent adoptive owners in Calgary over the past three and a half years.
Pit Bulls For Life brings the dogs in from jurisdictions with breed-specific legislation that sees many breeds deemed dangers, including pit bulls, targeted for euthanasia. She said 20 per cent of the dogs they help come from Ontario.
“We have a lot more pit bulls in Calgary now,” said Campbell-Briggs. “Part of the reason is we don’t have breed-specific legislation. I’m proud to be a Calgarian because our animal by-law officers deal with specific incidents and don’t deal with it as a breed issue. There’s no bias and that’s so important.”
Pit Bulls For Life doesn’t take in any dogs with histories of aggression toward humans or other animals and says it works with the city bylaw department to educate owners.
Canada Post has also noticed a slight reduction in dog incidents involving its letter carriers in Calgary that bucks the trend nationally.
From January to August last year, 25 dog incidents were reported by carriers, two of which resulted in time off work. In the same time period in 2007, 28 incidents were reported, with three requiring time away from work.
An aggressive dog can lead to an entire block losing mail service until the animal is brought under control.
“We have to ensure the safety of our employees–your front step and front yard are our employees’workplace,”said Andrean Wolvers, Canada Post safety manager for Calgary. “We tell our employees when in doubt, get out.”
Wolvers says partnerships with the city and other organizations that send employees into residential neighbourhoods has helped reduce dog attacks on posties.
“The city and Bill Bruce have been very proactive,” said Wolvers.
The Calgary Humane Society said the working relationship it has with the city is unique in Canada.
“We have a very collaborative relation-ship. When we talk to other humane societies, they say we’re the only ones they’ve heard of that have a positive working relationship with the city bylaw department,” said Calgary Humane Society spokeswoman Lindsay Jones.
“Other cities learn from us and the way we do things here.”
smyers@theherald.canwest.com
https://www.calgaryherald.com/Life/Calgary+attacks+fall+lowest+level+years/1313555/story.html
Sun, March 18, 2007
Attacks, aggressive dog incidents down
UPDATED: 2007-03-18 14:32:23 MST
Bylaw boss credits new rules, owner awareness
By NADIA MOHARIB, SUN MEDIA
The number of aggressive dog incidents in the city is down with officials crediting beefed up bylaws for the decline.
The rate of aggression cases between dogs dropped by 56%, from 162 to 72 between 2005 and last year, bylaw boss Bill Bruce told the Sun.
Biting incidents are also down by 21% to 199, he added.
“It wasn’t all about cats,” he said referring to the city’s highly publicized introduction of a cat bylaw.
“We did a lot to change our bylaws.”
He said stiff fines for offences combined with increased education likely led to the good news.
Owners can face fines of $350 if their dogs bite someone and $750 if that person needs medical attention.
An attack can mean a fine of $1,500.
Being blamed for a dog on dog attack sees an owner stuck with a $250 fine.
“You, as a pet owner are 100 percent responsible,” Bruce said.
“It’s not controlling pets, it’s about holding people responsible for their pets.”
In the city of Calgary all cats and dogs three months of age and older must have a licence.
The penalty for not licensing a cat or dog is $250.00. A animal licence enables Animal Services to return a missing cat or dog as soon as possible to an owner.
According to the latest city census there are 92,563 dogs in Calgary up from 83,475 in 1998.
The 2001 census showed there were about 90,000 cats, up by nearly 50% from the previous polling of Calgarians.
https://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/2007/03/18/3776727.html
“Breed-specific” legislation (BSL) is, essentially, canine bigotry. More specifically, the term refers to regional laws that ban or regulate certain breeds of dog in the hopes of reducing attacks on humans.
Not only is BSL unjust, it just doesn’t work. Anywhere. And the stats prove it.
Because of this, many cities (and states and countries) have repealed their antiquated BSL laws over the years, but far too many cities and municipalities (including Denver and Miami) have them intact.
Legalized discrimination, much? These laws are based on nothing more than misconceptions, misinformation and fear.
So, here are ten facts about BSL, and what you can do to take action:
1. BSL Kills.
Because of these BSL (and widespread misinformation), pit bulls have almost no chance of survival in public shelters. In many regions, they’re killed immediately upon shelter admission, with no opportunity to find a new home. Their euthanasia rate, overall, hovers around a staggering 93 percent.
2. Dog Bite Fatalities are Extremely Rare.
Between 1999 and 2006, an average of 27 Americans died each year as a result of a dog attack, according to a Journal of the American Medical Association report. Meanwhile, estimates suggest an average of 40 to 50 Americans die each year from lightning strikes.
3. There’s No Evidence That Banning Breeds has Any Impact on Dog Bites.
Period.
The term “numbers needed to ban” (NNB) is coined to describe this statistical parameter. In the paper, the authors calculate several outcome scenarios based on statistics available from data published in the dog bite literature, such as emergency department visits due to dog bite injury, reconstructive surgery following a dog bite, and frequency of hospitalizations because of a dog bite injury. For all calculations result showed that the numbers needed to ban, based on a particular set of assumptions, were extremely high, therefore, indicating impracticality and implausibility of BSL.
In this writer’s opinion, the argument presented in this paper, using this kind of statistical analysis, is compelling. Nevertheless, the impact the science reported in this paper might have on an emotive real-world problem like dog bite frequency is dubious because of what the authors identify as a “perceptual gap” – that is, the gap between (a) what scientifically is correct and (b) what people believe due to their own biases and belief structures.
The authors believe this gap exists in part because of the widespread fear people have of certain types of dogs, created largely through the dissemination of misinformation about dogs and through highly publicized events in which people are severely attacked or killed by a dog. People feel the need to immediately control the problem, hence the knee-jerk reaction favoring the implementation of BSL. The authors conclude that BSL is based largely on fear, and that animal care professionals need to enlighten the public and policy makers about the widespread faulty beliefs that exist concerning the behavioral nature of certain breeds, and about the lack of effectiveness of breed-specific legislation in curtailing the dog bite problem. Expert Breed Specific Legislation
What is the trend in BSL?
A: There is a growing awareness that BSL does not improve community safety and penalizes responsible dog owners and their family companions. From January 2012-May 2014, more than seven times as many American communities have either considered and rejected a breed-specific ordinance, or repealed an existing one, as have enacted BSL.[9] Massachusetts, Nevada, Connecticut, Rhode Island, South Dakota, and Utah have recently enacted state laws that prohibit their towns and counties from regulating dogs on the basis of breed. Eighteen states now prohibit BSL. The White House Administration has announced its opposition to BSL, stating that “research shows that bans on certain types of dogs are largely ineffective and often a waste of public resources.”[10]
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.VC2tNE0z.dpuf
What Is The Solution?
There are several dangerous dog laws out there that are geared towards owners and individual dogs with no mention of any breed. Owners need to be held responsible for their dog?s behavior – if an owner cannot properly train or socialize a dog, let alone an APBT, then that person should not have a dog. It is high time that dogs stopped being killed after biting another dog or a person, it is not hard to reform a biter and why should the dog have to suffer for the idiocy of their owner. Unless the dog has an irreversible medical condition causing the aggression, every and all biting dogs should be given a second chance. Humans need to step back and realize that dogs do not go out and seek little children to gnaw on, there is no feeling of malice being expressed by these dogs – in fact, MOST bites occur because of miscommunication between humans and dogs, why should the dogs be killed and not the people? If both made a mistake, both need to learn what is proper and appropriate and a dog is more than capable of being taught discrimination (say between a squeaky toy and a screaming child) and proper behaviors.
“the U.S. had a grand total of 15 dog attack fatalities:
9 by pit bulls, 2 by Dobermans, four by unidentified
mutts.” ,, you see this is were i have the problem, you see BSL targets pitbulls and assuming this statements right then, that means even if BSL works a charm what about the 6 deaths involving non pitbulls?? doesn’t anyone care about them? just because it wasn’t a pitbull that killed them they’re still dead, So these 6 dead mean nothing and it’s perfectly acceptable for there to be deaths by dog attacks so long as they’re not pitbulls?? this is the massive big hole in the logic of BSL it only protects and or prevents victims of pitbulls not any other breed it’s as if they’re saying there’s an acceptable level of deaths by dog? Any law for it to work has to breed neutral as that’s the only way to stop all the deaths BSL on;y effectively is meant to stop pitbull bites??
Patricia Forbell Canine Genetics and Behavior
By Glen Bui, American Canine Foundation
“To state that a breed of dog is aggressive is scientifically impossible. Statistics do not support such a finding. Dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years and within all breeds there can be dangerous dogs because of owner issues such as training the dog to attack, lack of training and socialization.
There is no such thing as the “Mean Gene” in dogs as well as in people. However, mutant genes have been discovered. Alteration of a single DNA base in the gene encoding an enzyme called monoamine oxidase A (MAOA) has been found to render the enzyme nonfunctional. This enzyme normally catalyzes reactions that metabolize the neurotransmitters dopamine, serotonin, and oradrenaline. What this does is cause slight mental impairment which interferes with the ability to cope with certain situations resulting in aggression. There is no proof and there never has been that the American Pit Bull Terrier possesses mutant genes. There is a one in ten thousand chance of a mutant gene appearing in a population.
Aggressiveness has many definitions and its stimulus of the environment that causes behavior. Dogs defend territory, they exhibit dominance and if allowed can become protective of their family. All this behavior can be controlled by the owner and aggression is mainly an act of behavior. To make claim that the American Pit Bull Terrier can cause more severe injury than other breeds is ludicrous. Over 30 breeds of dogs are responsible for over 500 fatal attacks in the last 30 years, every victim was severely injured. The American Pit Bull Terrier is clearly a useful member of society. The breed was World War One Hero and it’s rated as having one of the best overall temperaments in the United States (A.T.T.S.). The breed is used for dog show competitions, therapy, service work, search and rescue, police work and companionship. Man has domesticated dogs to the point they serve as companions, workers and even objects of beauty. Dogs will protect man, see for him, hunt for him and play. One breed is not more inherently good or evil, vicious, harmful or helpful. It is man who is responsible for the dog’s behavior, not the breed of dog. Those passing breed bans fail to understand that a mis-trained Pit Bull can be replaced with another breed. People determine whether dogs will be useful members of a community or a nuisance. It is the people who allow their dogs to become dangerous and legislators must control and punish the people.”
what’s going on sentinel???
it’s simple whatever your name is,, cops are not dog breed id experts, medics are not dog breed id experts, witnesses such as neigbors etc are not dog breed experts, owners are not dog breed id experts, and victims are not dog breed id experts?? there’s been no confirmation of any of the breeds/types of dogs involved in any attacks were actually APBT?? oh and fyi as terry and collleen said if you want to be taken seriously try using your name and own your opinions??
Fatal dog attacks in the United States
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article contains an incomplete list(s), which may never be able to satisfy particular standards for completeness. You can help by expanding the list(s) with reliably sourced entries.
Fatal dog attack scenarios include escaped guard dogs and children wandering into their territory.
Fatal dog attacks in the United States are a small percentage of the relatively common occurrences of dog bites. While at least 4.5 – 4.7 million Americans (2%) are bitten by dogs every year, only about 0.0002% of these (less than 0.00001% of the U.S. population) result in death, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which published a special report on the subject in 2000.[1]
The second part of this article consists of an annotated list of individual U.S. dog-attack fatalities. The list is not meant to be exhaustive nor conclusive. It relies mostly on news reports as references, but at points it runs concurrent with studies reviewed in the first part and may include information from the studies at those points. Care has been and should continue to be taken that this information is verifiable in the sources and that any contradictions or other indications that the information might not be valid are addressed reasonably. Nevertheless, the reader should bear in mind that data from news investigations is generally less reliable than information from published scholarly studies, and that where specific breeds listed, they are rarely based on conclusive proof of ancestry.
. Fatal dog attacks are always media sensations and heavily reported. Yet we can only trust that 60% of the reports of breed identification from the media and involved animal control officials are accurate. And unfortunately, it is media reports rather than facts that spur the political decisions that lead to breed specific legislation. Based on this study, 20 breeds and 2 mixed breeds should face legislation rather than the few that are presently targeted.
The ugly truth about this study is that it points to human behavior as the cause of dog attacks on humans. Social responsibility cannot be legislated. Many of these dog owners had histories of animal mismanagement, yet the penalties or consequences were inadequate to change the behavior. It would have been interesting if the study had also looked at previous behaviors and histories of the parents of the young victims.
Whether programs for responsible pet ownership, bite prevention education, or dog related parent supervision education are widely effective has yet to be proven. Certainly breed specific legislation is not the answer. A recent Canadian study showed that there were no significant differences in the number of bite related hospital visits before and after communities adopted breed specific legislation.
Dr. Ken Tudor
Image: ado6 / Shutterstock
people know what they’re seeing.. they’re seeing pitbashers like you using victims of pitbulls as pawns whilst totally ignoring victims of non pitbulls, they’re seeing you and your pitbashing mats twist and manipuate statistics to try and suit your agenda,, they’re seeing pitbashers like you stabbing dogs in manson style psychotic episodes, they’re seeing pitbashers like you poisoning innocent family pets with anti freeze!! people know what they’re seeing and I’m reasonably sure they know who the nutters are alright?? and it’s people like you and clifton and barros and all the other fakes that constantly infect blogs with your copy and paste campaigns! the fact is despite telling you fools constantly “i oppose BSL because it totally ignores victims of non pitbulls!! answer me one question Einstine,, what about victims of non pitbulls??? obviously i’m not expecting a reply because we all know you pitbashers are only interested in killing pitbulls and really couldn’t care less about victims, but you go right ahead and confirm that by ignoring my question and giving me another dose of descriptive adjectives mixed with flat out lies like the rest of your pitbasher mates?
Leading experts from around the world who have years of training studying the Foamer community compile their data yearly to help us accurately keep track of Foamer incidents nationwide except for Canada and Mexico (our budget isn’t that big). This agency is known as the CFC – The Center for Foamer Control.
Our experts have sent informative questioners through out the states to medical and mental health professions to help gather Non Foamer interactions with Foamers data.
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Each question is scientifically proven to help understand the rising levels of insanity in the Foamer community and the threat they pose to our community and to the National Security.
According to the CFC (Center for Foamer Control) they stopped recording Foamer attacks by gender and instead of recording “Foamer man” and “Foamer woman” they simplified it to just “Foamer”.
The CFC reports that with the growth of the population it makes sense that the percentage of Foamers would grow slightly. As troubling as that might seem at first glance, the CFC assures us that it’s normal.
According to these charts from 2011 to 2013 it seems as if the Foamer population hasn’t grown much:
In conclusion, The CFC concludes that there will always be Foamers and that means Foamer attacks are always possible. Foamer Education is the best way to avoid or lesson your irritation when having the unfortunate Foamer interaction.
Tips for avoiding Foamer attacks:
Never feed the Foamers
Leave Foamers alone while they are eating.
Do not approach stray Foamers.
Never leave children, dogs,cats and the elderly alone and unsupervised with Foamers.
Please make sure Foamers are S/N and up to date on their vaccinations.
When a Foamer is approaching, don’t yell and run. Stand perfectly still, don’t make eye contact and pray they just don’t see you.
Don’t be part of the problem! Be proactive and help keep the Foamer population down. FBL (Foamer breed legislation) are being enacted daily nationwide!
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this man freely admits he would use anti freeze to poison neighbors pets if they were pitbulls and he has on at least one occasion told a 14 yr old girl to smear her privates with peanut butter and let her mauler lick it off for a thrill?? is this the type of person you want to do business with SENTINEL? ( FYI i’m expecting you to ignore delete my question and probably block me too??) all behaviour typical of pitbull hating nutters??
Responsible pet ownership is key to prevention
All dog owners have an unequivocal responsibility for the humane care, including providing a license and permanent id, spaying or neutering their dogs, providing training, socialization, proper diet, and medical care, and not allowing a pet to become a threat or a nuisance.
An increased awareness of these responsibilities may be reflected in the increasing percentage of the investigations that arise from all DBRF’s that result in criminal prosecutions of the owners and caretakers (compiled as part of NCRC’s exhaustive investigation of each reported case[4]).
(Sources for this graph)[5]
– See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dogbites/dog-bite-related-fatalities/#sthash.pYmNGJ2v.dpuf
All dogs have the propensity to bite; it is in their nature. Some breeds, however, seem to have a tendency to nip and bite more than others. My list of the top ten BITING breeds will surprise you; not containing the breeds commonly thought of to be the most aggressive.
In July 2008, the journal of Applied Animal Behaviour Science published a study done by researches at the University of Pennsylvania. They surveyed and discussed with over 6,000 dog owners their experiences with aggression in their dogs. The researchers compiled a report containing 33 dog breeds most likely to bite. Here are the dog breeds with the greatest percentage of bites and bite attempts on humans.
•Dachshund. Yes, the sausage dog is most likely to bite strangers and its owners.
•Chihuahua. These are big dogs in a little package, and none are afraid to tell you so. Chihuahuas are very likely to bite strangers and owners.
•Jack Russell Terrier. These feisty little dogs are also quick to nip. They have a tendency to try to nip at strangers and family members.
•Australian Cattle Dog. This breed is great to have around the home, but you must be careful; they are herding dogs, which means they are very likely to nip family and strangers.
•American Cocker Spaniel. A common breed in many homes in the United States, this dog does have tendencies to nip and bite at owners.
•Beagle. Another family favorite, beagles seem to nip and bite at their families.
There are other breeds, like the Akita and Pit Bull Terrier, which are more prone to trying to nip or bite other dogs or animals.
It must always be kept in mind that small dogs often go un-reprimanded for biting. Many owners find it cute. It is also the only way a small dog has to get people to back up. Remember, you are a giant to him!
There are many breeds of dogs, like Rottweilers, Doberman Pinschers, and Mastiffs, who often get a bad reputation for biting. These dogs have been bred to be protective dogs, plus their size makes them do serious damage when they do bite. Because of this, more stigma is put on the breed.
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why do you keep deleting advocate posts and yet foamer/hater posts are left?? Sentinel are ther any humans there??
10 Common Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
10 Common Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
No other dog has had so much media coverage in the last 15 years as the Pit Bull. It’s tough not to be emotional one way or the other about these canines, especially if you’ve owned one or two or three, or if you or a loved one has been involved in a bad incident involving a Pit Bull. One side says Pits are dangerous and should be banned. The other side says they are loving, safe dogs and it’s the owners who are to blame for any “bad” Pits. What is the truth? Somewhere in between.
“Pit Bull” can refer to either the American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) breed or a type of dog who has Pit Bull traits. It’s all muddled at this point with Breed Specific Legislation, which bans or restricts some breeds, lumping Boxers and Dalmatians in with pits and other bully breeds (such as the American Staffordshire Terrier. Most Pit Bulls on the street are mixes though there is still breeding of the APBT. Responsible breeding produces a stable, talented dog while breeding for dog fighting must, of course, be stopped.
It gets more confusing when trying to identify just how many Pit Bulls are responsible for dog or human attacks. When you see the term “Pit Bull” in the press, it can refer to any type of dog. More often than you’d think, a dog who attacked someone and is labeled Pit Bull, is actually a mutt or a different breed altogether. Even if a picture is attached and it looks like a Pitbull, it could be any number of mixes which produce similar characteristics.
Really, when you think about it, condemning a dog based on his physical traits is declaring his guilt based purely on his appearance – this is what BSL is about.
But there are the sensible people who honestly feel that Pitbulls, and any dog that resembles one, are a danger to society. Often, these folks don’t know much about dogs and certainly not much about Pits. But they are being bombarded with almost all bad press about these dogs. It is evident that the media fuels misconceptions about Pits and stirs up the public. And the statistics behind the fury are less than accurate. Even the Center for Disease Control, which puts out many of the stats, states that dog bite and dog attack data cannot be gathered accurately.
But, still, the section of society that does not feel safe with Pit Bulls has a right to be heard. And, considering the bull they are fed about Pits, it’s no wonder they don’t believe the Pit Bull supporters.
Below are 10 common misconceptions about Pit Bulls which both support and contradict the general views of either “Pit Bulls are dangerous” or “Pit Bulls are just like Golden Retrievers.” Just as it’s tough to be unemotional about these dogs, it’s also tough to be unbiased (especially when the author of this article owns three of them) but a valiant effort has been made.
10 Misconceptions About Pit Bulls
1. All Pit Bulls Are Bad – Dogs do not have a conscience; they cannot be “bad.” Pit Bulls react to their world based on their breeding and training. You can’t breed a dog to fight other dogs for almost 200 years and expect those instincts to vanish.
2. All Pit Bulls Are Good – No dog is not innately “good.” They simply act as their instincts and owners tell them to. To try to sell the Pit Bull to the public as a fluffy bunny does a disservice to the public, to potential Pit Bull owners and to Pits themselves.
3. Pit Bulls Are Human Aggressive – Since Pits were bred to fight dogs in a ring, the owners had to make certain they would not turn on them when they went in to stop the fight. Imagine a dog, so riled up from fighting and very aggressive, who was able to then turn it off when his human appeared in the pit. When a Pit Bull attacks a person, there are always other factors involved, such as protection of food. Any dog may bite if provoked.
4. Pit Bulls Can Cause More Damage Than Other Dogs – Sorry, Pit Bull lovers but this is sometimes sadly true. Myths such as the locked jaw have been disproved but a Pit Bull’s traits make him naturally more driven. Consider these: tenacity (they often fought til death in rings), gameness, prey drive, a compact, strong, muscular body (pits can pull up to 7,000 pounds) and centuries of fighting instinct. But, there are too many factors involved in dog bites, such as the size of the animal and where the bite occurred, to make a blanket statement. In their favor, a Pit Bull will likely listen and obey better than other dogs if properly trained.
5. An Aggressive Pit Bull Cannot Be Rehabilitated – This was disproved by the Michael Vick case where some 50 pit bulls were rescued from a fighting ring. Of those, 49 dogs were rehabilitated. Some went to shelters such as Best Friends and many are well-loved family members today. The testing used to determine these dogs’ ability to fit into society was exhaustive and excellent and successful.
6. Anyone Can Own a Pit Bull – Pit Bulls are different from other dogs and their owners need to be told the facts before rescuing or purchasing one. A dog lover who has had Bichons all her life will be sorely surprised unless she does her homework and understands the bully breeds. Pits need a lot of structure, a very pronounced human alpha, training, exercise and lots of attention. The owner needs consistency, time, energy and maybe some muscle.
7. Pit Bulls Will Always Fight Other Dogs – Some Pits are so dog aggressive that they should be the only dog in the house. They also should not go to dog parks or areas where dogs run off-leash. Any Pit Bull could get into a fight with another dog. Any dog could. But breaking up a Pit Bull fight is much harder than a tiff between a Shiba Inu and a Sharpei Inu. If you have a Pit Bull, learn about his body language and the signs that he is getting ready to fight. This will prevent many incidents.
8. Pit Bulls Are Lovers Not Fighters – Since it’s been established that they can be fighters, what about lovers? Absolutely! Pit Bulls give more kisses than any other type of dog (it’s proven!). They love humans and human interactions. They feed off positive attention. These dogs are loving, friendly creatures. And they are the kings of clowning.
9. Pit Bulls Are Badly Behaved – Any dog who has this much energy and motivation coded into his DNA can cause problems if he doesn’t get enough attention and exercise. Pit Bulls put their whole hearts into destruction – of couches, beds, pillows, or your $200 boots. But all they need is to have that energy redirected. Pit Bulls are highly trainable but they do need to be trained. Their intelligence, focus, gameness, loyalty and desire to please makes them one of the most teachable dogs.
10. Compromise is Unthinkable – Unfortunately, both sides of the Pit Bull debate are often stubborn about their views and solutions. For those who think BSL is wrong, they need to be realistic about how to end it. For those that think Pit Bulls are dangerous, they need to recognize that banning Pits tears loved pets away from their families and what they propose will not stop all dangerous dogs. Giving in a bit on both sides, such as allowing muzzling of Pit Bulls in public places in exchange for no BSL, may prove the only hope. Pitbulls are like other dogs yet they’re also unique. Their gameness, focus, desire to please and boundless energy
can be seen as either productive or unproductive traits. The trick is to utilize these characteristics in focused play and work, such as agility, weight pulling, rescue work or nose work.
What To Do When Animal Control Knocks
I thought we had this somewhere, but couldn’t find it. Anyway, I had someone asking about it, so here it is again:
*Forwarded with permission & for information purposes only
*What to do when Animal control knocks?”
by George J. Eigenhauser Jr. (he is an attorney at law licensed in the State of California since 1979 and practices in the areas of civil litigation and estate planning)
ANTI-DOG ENFORCEMENT – What Every Dog Owner Needs to Know
Dog owners and ethical breeders are increasingly being targeted.? Disgruntled neighbors may retaliate against dog owners and may other reasons drive complaints, and anti-dog enforcement action, which many times may be conducted illegally. The following text outlines methods of inquiry and enforcement which may be used by local officials in attempts to enforce ordinances in your community and suggested techniques of response. These techniques are entirely legal and based upon the rights of citizens as stated by the U.S. Constitution.
No breeder wants to have Animal Control come knocking on the
door…but if they do, it will help if you know what your options are.
Remember, Animal Control is law enforcement. They are bound by the same Constitution as any other government agency. To protect yourself, you need to know your rights. These vary slightly one jurisdiction to another, but some general principles apply. One rule applies everywhere: never physically resist an officer.
When Animal Control is At Your Door:
1. Do not let them in, no matter how much they ask. Animal Control generally cannot enter your home without a warrant, or your permission. While regular police can enter in emergency situations when human life is at risk (i.e. they hear gunshots and a scream inside), there are few, if any, situations in which Animal Control can enter your home without a warrant. Simply tell them they may not come in.
2. If you let them in, anything they find in “plain sight” can be
used against you. In some circumstances Animal Control officers, unable to find a legitimate reason to make an arrest, have reported building or zoning violations. This may include caging you attached to a wall without a building permit, that extra outlet in the puppy room, having more pets than allowed by zoning, even extension cords in violation of fire codes! No matter how clean your kennel, if they want to find a violation, they will.
3. Do not talk to them from an open doorway. Step outside and close (and lock if possible) the door behind you. This is necessary because:
A) Anything they see through the open door is “plain sight” and may be the basis for an arrest, or probable cause for a search warrant.
B) If they make an arrest or even feel threatened they are usually permitted to search for weapons in your immediate area. Do you keep a baseball bat inside the door for your protection? Even if you don’t, once they step inside to look, they are in your home and may continue to search.
C) It is hard not to be intimidated by someone in authority. Some
animal control is even done by local police, who carry guns. It is
easy for them to get “in your face”, causing you to back up into the home. Once you go in, it will be interpreted as an invitation to
follow.
4. If they claim to have a warrant, demand to see it. In general, a
search warrant must be signed by a judge. A warrant to search your home for dogs does not include an inventory of your jewellery box. A warrant to search your kennel in the garage or in the barn does not include a search of your home.
5. In some locations dog owners may have obtained special “breeder permits” that stipulate that Animal Control has your permission to enter at any time. If you have signed such a permit they still cannot enter against your wishes, since you can revoke the permission at any time. However, if you refuse permission it may allow them to cancel your breeder permit, so you have to weigh the consequences.
6. Warning – anyone in lawful possession of the premises may be able to give permission for a search. Make sure your roommate, babysitter, dog-sitter, housekeeper and other know that they should not let animal control into your home or on your property (i.e. backyard, garage, etc.).
How to Handle Questions:
1. Don’t answer any questions beyond identifying yourself for the
officer. Anything you say to the officer in your defence cannot be
used in court (hearsay). Anything you say that is harmful to you will be used in court (confessions are not considered hearsay). You cannot win, except by remaining silent.
2. Be polite but firm. Do not argue, bad-mouth, curse, threaten or
try to intimidate the officer.
3. Do not lie to an officer, ever. However, it is NOT a lie to
exercise your right to remain silent.
4. Keep your hands in plain sight. People have been shot by police when common objects, such as a wallet, were mistaken for a gun.
5. Do not touch the officer in any way. Do not physically resist an
officer, no matter how unlawful his or her actions.
6. Don’t try to tell your side of the story, it cannot help.
7. Do not threaten the officer that you plan to file a complaint for
their actions.
8. If the questioning persists, demand to speak to a lawyer first.
Repeat as necessary.
Gathering the Facts:
1. Get the name and badge number of each officer involved. If he/she does not volunteer this information, ask.
2. Ask the name of the agency they represent. Different agencies have different enforcement responsibilities.
3. Ask why they are there. Request the factual basis of the complaint and the identity of the complainant.
4. If they have other people with them (Humane Society, press, etc.) get the names and organizations for all present.
5. Note the names (and addresses) of any witnesses to the encounter.
6. If you are physically injured by an officer, you should take
photographs of the injuries immediately, but do not forego proper medical treatment first.
7. Write down all of the information, as well as the date and time of the incident immediately, while details are fresh in your mind.
8. If you rights are violated, file a complaint with the appropriate
body.
If You Are Arrested:
1. Remain silent. Answer no questions until you have consulted with a lawyer.
2. Don’t “explain” anything. You will have time for explanations
after you have talked to a lawyer.
3. Within a reasonable time they must allow you to make a phone call to get a lawyer or arrange bail. They are not allowed to listen to your phone call to your attorney, but they may “monitor” the rooms for “your protection”. Do not say anything you do not want them to overhear; save that until after you are out on bail.
Telephone Inquiries or Threats:
You may receive telephone inquiries concerning the number of dogs you own and whether any dogs or puppies are for sale. Other questions may also be asked.
Your response should be to inquire “Are you interested in a puppy?”.
If the answer is “yes”, ask that person for his/her name, address and phone number. Suggest that you or a responsible breeder will contact that person at a more convenient time for you.
If the answer is friendly and genuinely inquisitive, invite the
person to look at your puppies.
If the question asked is “What is the price of each puppy?”, simply say that puppies of this type are being sold for between “X” and “Y” dollars. Never say that you are selling them.
If the question asked is “Are these your puppies?”, you should
ask, “Why do you want to know?”.
If you conversation indicates that the person is representing the
county clerk’s office or allegedly representing an official body, ask the caller for:
Full name, title and phone number
Agency’s full name and full address
Their supervisor’s full name and phone number
Nature of the inquiry (what it is about)
Why the inquiry is being made
How your name and phone number were obtained
Ask that all future questions from that agency be submitted in
writing
Preventative Measures:
1.Always keep you kennel clean and take good care of your animals.
2. Consider a P.O. Box or other address for business cards and
advertisements. Keep descriptions of your location general (i.e.
Southern California, rather than the name of the city where you
live). The internet can provide anonymity for initial contacts. You
can even buy a “remote prefix” to get a number from a nearby
community forwarded to your phone or to a voice mail. Avoid local newspaper classifieds, they are often monitored.
3. Screen any potential puppy buyers carefully. Always be alert that they may be Animal Control or even Animal Rights working under cover.
4. Don’t allow strangers into your home until you have screened them.
5. Be fair and honest in all of your dealings, and be on good terms with your neighbors. Most animal control contacts are complaint-driven. Some complaints may arise as harassment by people with unrelated grievances against you. It may be a disgruntled dogbuyer or a cranky neighbor who doesn’t like you parking in front of his house.
6. Anything about you that can be observed in “plain sight” from the street or sidewalk can become probably cause for a warrant. Even areas on your property open to visitors can be dangerous. Be aware of which areas of your home are visible from the outside and plan accordingly.
7. If you are confronted by Animal Control and turn them away, $#@!ume they will be back. Use the time available to make sure everything is clean and presentable. If you are over the limit on the number of pets, find friends who can provide temporary shelter for your dogs.? Whatever you do, stay calm and keep your wits about you.? Just say “no”, no matter what threats or promises of leniency they make.? When in doubt, say nothing and speak to a lawyer afterwards.
Hermine Stover,
Secretary Responsible Dog Owners Of The Western States
23280 Stephanie Perris CA 92570
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New Jersey S 1310 would end breed discrimination by insurance companies
Posted on March 5, 2014 by krisdiaz9 | Leave a comment
A bill has been introduced in the New Jersey legislature that would end discriminatory practices by insurance companies in New Jersey.
S 1310 has been referred to the Senate Commerce Committee.
There are several different aspects to this bill.
First, it states that, “An insurer shall not (1) refuse to issue, (2) cancel, or (3) non-renew a homeowners insurance policy solely on the basis of a dog harbored upon the insured property.”
Secondly, the bill does allow insurance companies to not cover the dog specifically in the policy. “Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection a. of this section, an insurer may offer or issue a homeowners insurance policy which contains an exclusion against covering any liability for a dog harbored upon the insured property.” This means that people will be able to get coverage for their property, but may have to sign an exclusion for liabilities concerning the dog.
The last part of the bill states that companies are allowed to charge different rates for different dogs. “…nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit an insurer’s use of underwriting guidelines, risk classifications, or other rules of any rating-system, as defined by section 1 of P.L.1944, c.27 (C.17:29A-1), which establish rates and premiums for that coverage on the basis of a dog harbored upon the insured property.”
These bills, traditionally, have been very difficult to pass because of the money and power that is behind the insurance lobby. Insurance discrimination is an incredibly important issue, however. It does not just effect home owners, but also effects renters. Many landlords have policies against certain breeds and types of dogs because they cannot get coverage under their insurance policiesto protect them, as the owner of the property. This bill will not alleviate the problem completely, but it does provide a base line that will begin to address these issues.
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Since this particular bill is so light on prohibitions on what an insurance company can do, the traditional backlash may be somewhat lessened.
New Jersey residents should reach out to support this bill.
You can contact your legislators via the states website.
Best Friends Animal Society has also set up a form, if you are having trouble with what to say.
What is the best way to reduce dog bite-related incidents in a community? Dogs cannot be characterized apart from people. At the heart of any public safety issue involving dogs is the need for responsible pet ownership. Effective laws hold dog owners responsible for the humane care, custody, and control of all dogs regardless of breed or type. Humane communities are safer communities. – See more at: https://nationalcanineresearchcouncil.com/dog-legislation/breed-specific-legislation-bsl-faq/#sthash.2jYRPnMe.dpuf
LOL, the National Canine Research Council? You have got to be kidding me. A failed self published author who formed a corporation by spreading the word of the dogmen and breeders. A corporation that is not affiliated with the government at all but is rather a gun for hire, a lobby for pit bulls. Can you say biased?
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considering Dax was killed by 2 dogs described by animal control as being Boxer crosses, i find Bogarts action as puzzling to say the least then add his threats about anti freezing neighbors dogs and the comment to a 14 year old telling her to smear herself with peanut butter and let her “mauler” lick it off for a thrill!! Any one who deals with this person is guilty by association?
2014 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
Updated after each fatality following fact finding research
31 Dog Bite Related Fatalities
by Breed:
23 by Pit Bull / Pit Bull Mix
3 by Bullmastiff / Mastiff Mix
2 by Rottweiler
1 by Cane Corso
1 by Shepherd Mix…
1 by Catahoula Leopard Dog
By age:
17 Children
12 Adults
By State:
TX – 6 deaths
AL – 3 deaths
OH – 3 deaths
FL – 3 deaths
NC – 2 deaths
MI – 2 deaths
AZ – 1 death
CA – 2 death
CT – 1 death
DE – 1 death
IL – 1 death
LA – 1 death
MS – 2 death
NJ – 1 death
MO – 1 death
AR – 1 death
Names and ages of the deceased:
Christina Bell-Burleson – 43 – Houston, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.05.14]
Betty Clark – 75 – Canyon Lake, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [01.06.14]
Kara Hartrich – 4 – Bloomington, IL – 2 Pit Bulls [01.17.14]
Annabel Martin – 89 – Corona, CA – 3 Rottweilers [01.26.14]
Klonda Richey – 57 – Dayton, OH – 2 Mastiff Mixes [02.07.14]
Je’vaeh Mayes – 2 – Temple, TX – Pit Bull [02.17.14]
Braelynn Coulter – 3 – High Point, NC – Pit Bull [02.24.14]
Summer Sears – 4 – Tallassee, AL – Shepherd Mix [02.26.14]
Kenneth Santillan – 13 – Paterson, NJ – Bullmastiff [02.28.14]
Raymane Robinson, Jr. – 2 – Killeen, TX – Bullmastiff [03.01.14]
Nancy Newberry – 77 – Phoenix, AZ – Pit Bull [03.14.14]
Mia DeRouen – 4 – Houma, LA – Pit Bull [03.25.14]
Christopher Malone- 3 – Holmes County, MS – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
Dorothy Hamilton – 85 – Kaufman, TX – 2 Pit Bulls [03.31.14]
John Harvard – 5 – Riverside, AL – Pit Bull [04.06.14]
Petra Aguirre – 83 – San Antonio, TX – Pit Bull Mix [04.11.14]
Katie Morrison – 20 – Phenix City, AL – 3 Pit Bulls [05.03.14]
Nyhiem Wilfong – 1 – Caldwell County, NC – Rottweiler [05.04.14]
Kasii Haith – 4 – Kent County, DE – 3 Pit Bulls [05.07.14]
Rita Pepe – 93 – Branford, CT – Pit Bull Mix [05.25.14]
Holden Garrison – 10 wks – Davisburg, MI – Catahoula Leopard Dog [06.09.14]
Logan Shepard – 4 – Riverview, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [07.19.14]
Jonathan Quarles – 7 mo – Dayton, OH – Pit Bull [07.20.14]
Craig Sytsma – 46 – Metamore Twp, MI – 2 Cane Corso [07.23.14]
Cindy Whisman – 59 – Madison Twp, OH – Pit Bull [08.04.14]
Joel Chireieleison – 6 – Fanning Springs, FL – 2 Pit Bulls [08.07.14]
Deriah Solem – 22 mo – St Charles County, MO – Pit Bull Mix [08.09.14]
Javon Dade – 4 – Miami, FL – Pit Bull [08.13.14]
David Glass Sr.-51-Benton County, MS – 3 Pit Bulls [09.20.14]
Alice Payne – 75 – Cave City, AR – 1 Pit Bull [09.26.14]
Juan Fernandez – 59 – Modesto, CA – ? – [10.14.14]
Non – Bite Related Canine Deaths
Demonta Collins – 13 – Augusta, GA – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.10.14]
Davon Jigget – 17 – Fulton County, Ga – Chased into traffic by at large Pit Bull [04.11.14]
Ryan Brown – 15 – Fayette County, TN – Killed by pan thrown by brother when attempting to break up dog fight [08.08.14]
On average so far this year someone has been killed by a pit bull every 12 days. Some of these pit bull attacks were from the family dog that was well trained and had never shown signs of aggression before. The only common in these severe and often fatal attacks is not abuse or lack of training it is breed. Choose the breed of dog you trust the lives of your loved ones with wisely.
I’m the real Merritt Clifton. Some gutless wonder has been using a parody of my name. Of the 5,057 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 3,503 (68%) were pit bulls; 557 were Rottweilers; 4,339 (85%) were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, bull mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes. Of the 570 human fatalities, 302 were killed by pit bulls; 87 were killed by Rottweilers; 433 (75%) were killed by molosser breeds. Of the 3,079 people who were disfigured, 2,159 (68%) were disfigured by pit bulls; 328 were disfigured by Rottweilers; 2,639 (84%) were disfigured by molosser breeds. Pit bulls–exclusive of their use in dogfighting–also inflict more than 70 times as many fatal and disfiguring injuries on other pets and livestock as on humans, a pattern unique to the pit bull class. Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are together less than 7% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.
The Longmont Humane Society is now (October 2013) nationally known for adopting out dangerous biters. The problem was so bad, they were nailed by police. [Longmont Police Cmdr. Jeff Satur] said that in 2012, nearly 16 percent of reported dog bites in Longmont were traced to dogs adopted out of the Longmont Humane Society. So far in 2013, 13 percent of reported bites were from humane society dogs. December 2013, “Longmont Humane Society guilty of owning a dangerous dog”
https://daxtonsfather.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/coloradogs-a-dangerous-plethora-of-hypocrisy-lies-and-deceit/
The NCRC is a business lobbying group funded by another pit bull business lobbying group. Karen Delise prepares lobbying propaganda for an industry. These are common in the business and commercial industries. Business lobbies produce “information” that relates to profit interests, and that creates a bias that can be exploited with falsehoods and deceit issued in propaganda, which is why people need to know that they are dealing with information from a business lobbyist so they can understand influences that can alter the facts or information. It’s called disclosure. Failing to disclose is deceitful.
https://daxtonsfather.wordpress.com/2014/08/16/the-pit-bull-lobby-jane-berkey-animal-farm-foundation-karen-delise-the-national-canine-research-council-indeterminate-breeds/
“We thought he was going to be a great dog. He acted like one. He was a good
example of a good pit. Until he just decided to attack. He slept in our bed and
everything. We never left the kids alone with him. They were never mean to him.
We had 5 other dogs including another female pit and they never fought.
It’s NOT the way they are raised. Our dog was well loved and raised. He obeyed all
commands and never showed any aggression. These myths almost cost my sons life.
How many more people have to get hurt because of a lie?”
Jennifer Arp
“The backdoor was open and suddenly we heard people screaming from outside. Bexar, with zero warning, had lunged at Gavin, and his jaws were clamped down on Gavin’s face, right in front of everyone. Let me point out that there were 8 people within arms reach of Gavin when Bexar attacked. This is a critical point, because I have heard from many people about this, who say that they would never leave their children “alone” with “any” dog. Gavin was far from being alone when this attack
happened. Even 4 grown men were unable to pry Bexar’s jaws off of Gavin’s head.
Greg ran out and was finally able to get Bexar to release, saving Gavin’s life.”
Maggie Bain
“My brother had raised many pit bulls and one particularly captured our hearts…He was the sweetest well mannered gentle dog I had ever seen…I was always told the aggressive ones were because they were trained to fight and it was all in how they were raised….and if u got them from puppies that was the best way to raise any dog…Both of the dogs who attacked were brought home as puppies and picked out by
Kara…These dogs never displayed any people aggression. ..Always sat dutifully
by her side, watched her have tea parties, sat by her side when she was sick,
thought they were lap dogs and liked to snuggle…..no warnings, no snapping, no
growling…….just snapped!”
Roxanne Hartrich
“Children are blessings from God. Dogs are animals, I understand
peoples love for animals and a lot of people choose or may not be able to have
children so have these dogs and treat them as their own kids. They will always
be animals, not children. For those who choose the dangerous breeds please stop and
think, is it worth taking the chance on it turning and killing our children and
family members?”
Johnna Harvard
“Our son was brutally killed by our pet pit bull of 8 years…On April 24, 2013 we lost both our beautiful son Beau and our family dog, affectionately known as Kissy Face. Our dog had been part of our family for 8 years and lived up to her name, for she was eager to overload everyone with kisses. Oh, she was such a very loving and family oriented dog. Kissy Face had been around since her birth on November 22, 2005.
Then with no warning, matters changed dramatically and our world was irrevocably altered. Shortly after Beau’s 2nd birthday, I made a quick trip to the restroom. Just a few minutes later I returned to find my son lying in a pool of his own blood.”
Angela Rutledge
“Her right shoulder was dislocated in a backward fashion, half her right face was missing, as well as part of her right neck, and most of her right ear. My mother had bite marks all over her face, neck, and scalp. Her vocal box was ripped, that’s why my
niece only heard one yell. Her C1 & C2 were fractured; part of her spinal
cord was ripped from her lifeless body. She fought and fought. She suffered
from a horrific, sustained, vicious and violent attack at the jaws of a completely
unpredictable breed of dog. My mother’s autopsy report shows her wounds to be
consistent with defending her grandchild. The report states that my mother was
defending her grandchild. My mother is a hero. She saved my nephew’s
life.”
Ruth Halleran
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The ‘bull and terrier’ type
was originally developed in England in the early 19th century. The lineage goes back to the
mastiff / molosser types, including what we now call the Olde English
Bulldogge, that were used for bear-, bull- and horse-baiting from the 12th through the 18th century. This isn’t the bear-baiting we
think of today, when hunters feed bears in order to bring them out in the open
to shoot them. Rather, the bear, bull or horse was confined in a public arena
where the mastiff ‘bulldogs’ would slowly tear them apart alive for the
public’s amusement1,2,3,4,5.
The popularity of this
‘sport’ declined as education became more emphasized in urban society of the
Industrial Revolution and literacy among the population grew (from about 30% in
the 17th century
to 62% by 1800)6. The ‘sport’ was banned altogether by Act of Parliament
in 1835.
The lovers of blood ‘sports’
turned to dogfighting to satisfy their fancy, breeding the large, mastiff-type
bulldogs to smaller working terriers to get dogs both smaller and more agile,
easier to keep and to hide, but just as willing to attack and fight to the
death. With the rise of the kennel clubs and the desire to distinguish dogs by
looks and pedigree as well as by performance, this ‘bull and terrier’ type
eventually divided into many official breeds. They all share the same ancestry
and function, distinguishing themselves mostly by slight differences in
appearance.
The American Pit Bull
Terrier is, like all the ‘bully’ breeds, one of this group of descendants of
the British ‘bull and terrier’ type fighting bulldogs. Once imported into
the United States, it was bred up to be bigger again, and again used in baiting
animals and in dogfighting. The American Kennel Club (founded 1884) was
unwilling to register these fighting dogs, so in 1898 the United Kennel Club
was founded specifically to register working pit-fighting dogs and to
promote dogfighting. In order to be registered, a dog had to first win three
pit fights7,8,9. The American Pit Bull Terrier (APBT) became
a ‘breed’. As dogfighting declined in popularity in the 1930s and 1940s, Colby (the most famous and prolific breeder of
these dogs) began to search for a new market and began promoting the APBT as
family pets10,11. This despite the fact that his breeding
lines included child killers12.
The American Pit Bull
Terrier has a history and bloodline deep rooted in the blood sports of animal
baiting and dogfighting. As with all breeds, they retain their original traits.
They often to do not accept other animals, especially dogs, and can be
extremely aggressive towards them. They may accept animals they are raised
with, but have been known to kill other family pets even after years of living
together happily.
It is recommended that
American Pit Bull Terrier owners have and carry a break stick17. A break stick is a device designed to open a Pit Bull type dog’s mouth
while it is engaged in fighting. Pit Bull type breeds have a very distinctive
fighting style and often will latch on their opponent and not let go. They
usually will shake the other animal violently when they are latched on. This
can cause horrific damage quickly. The break stick was designed by dog fighters
to be inserted into the Pit Bull’s mouth and release his grip. The original
purpose was to safely end a dog fight. The break stick often is the ONLY thing
that will release the dog’s grip. People have been known to hit Pit Bulls with
objects such as a bat or even shoot them and the dog still will not let go.
Bully Breed owners should always have one handy in cause of an emergency. The
break stick is not safe to use on other breeds of dogs and is only recommended
for dogs in the Pit Bull family that were once used for dog fighting purposes.
Read more by visiting:
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I think the Aurora Sentinel now has a better idea of what it feels like to be attacked by a pit bull. The owners don’t actually rip off your limbs, scalp your child, or tear out your dog’s throat, so it’s not as bad, but it is unnerving and it does waste your time handling insanely angry, violent people. So I sympathize with the paper to some extent. But whining to the advertiser that you’re wasting a lot of time dealing with the crazies? That’s inappropriate. The problem isn’t the ad, which is mild enough. It’s the behavior of the very small minority of people who own pit bulls that’s the problem. They’re obviously freaking out the newspaper’s employees, which is not surprising. Pit bull owners don’t seem to understand that the American fondness for personal freedoms which has so far given them considerable leeway to own pit bulls despite their long record of bizarre violence, also supports the idea that those who disagree may voice their dissenting opinion. Their invariable response to any attempt to debate the topic of pit bulls and their future role in society is to attempt to scream down other perspectives and demand that other points of view be banned, changed or dismissed as “ignorance” or “hate.”
I agree 100% with Borchart’s advertisement, but I do wish he would have someone proofread his advertisements, comments, etc. The ad should have read:
I am surprised the Sentinel has any dealing with such a man, he freely admits to murdering pitbulls with anti freeze on public forums, he makes rude and sexually suggestive comments to 12 year old girls, and he lies about the dogs that killed his son?? they were boxer mixes according to the organization that adopted them to Sussan iwicki?? oh and sentinel i’m expecting you to delete my comment AGAIN so i’ll be copy and pasting it to my foamer page and exposing your foamer tendencies if this sort of thing continues??
shared to my page where we’ll monitor how you deal with it are you going to delete my comment again Sentinel??
https://www.facebook.com/pages/All-Things-Foamers/1565424063678963?skip_nax_wizard=true&ref_type=logout_gear
this is pit bull advocacy https://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/animal-rights/fatally-mauled-toddler-daxs-dad-runs-ad-support-bsl-pit-bull-lovers-send-hat
you are quickly becoming the story sentinel??
i’ve copied and shared my comment critical of the subject of this story and group members will be regularly posting it here untill you decide to do the right thing sentinel,, he’s using money raised to help save children to advertise with you illegally?/ and you are abetting his behaviour and muting comments critical of him???
“Pit bulls kill more humans & animals than all other breeds COMBINED!”
What’s wrong with the truth?
foamers claim to be the majority whereas the facts seems to indicate the same names appearing at blog after blog spewing their message of hate and fear, always using merrit the imposter alleged wanna be scientist propaganda?? they’re fanatics quite often using fake names and fake profiles militant style campaign against pitbulls?
It’s indisputable that pits
Where’s all those fatal Golden Retriever attacks? Pit bull advocates claim “all dogs bite”.
November 2014
Robeson County, NC Alemeaner Dial, 83 Fatal pit bull attack
October 2014
Stanislaus County, CA Juan Fernandez, 54 Fatal pit bull attack
September 2014
Sharp County, AR Alice Payne, 75 Fatal pit bull attack
September 2014
Benton County, MS David Glass Sr., 51 Fatal pit bull attack
August 2014
Miami-Dade County, FL Javon Dade Jr., 4 Fatal pit bull attack
St. Charles County, MO Deriah Solem, < 2 Fatal pit bull attack
Levy County, FL Joel Chirieleison, 6 Fatal pit bull attack
Butler County, OH Cindy Whisman, 59 Fatal pit bull attack
July 2014
Montgomery County, OH Johnathan Quarles, Jr., < 1 Fatal pit bull attack
Hillsborough County, FL Logan Sheppard, 4 Fatal pit bull attack
May 2014
New Haven County, CT Rita Pepe, 93 Fatal pit bull attack
Kent County, DE Kasii Haith, 4 Fatal pit bull attack
Lee County, AL Katie Morrison, 20 Fatal pit bull attack
April 2014
Highlands County, FL Jessica Norman, 33 Fatal pit bull attack
Bexar County, TX Petra Aguirre, 83 Fatal pit bull attack
St. Clair County, AL John Harvard, 5 Fatal pit bull attack
March 2014
Kaufman County, TX Dorothy Hamilton, 85 Fatal pit bull attack
Holmes County, MS Christopher Malone, 3 Fatal pit bull attack
Terrebonne Parish, LA Mia DeRouen, 4 Fatal pit bull attack
Maricopa County, AZ Nancy Newberry, 77 Fatal pit bull attack
February 2014
Guilford County, NC Braelynn Coulter, 3 Fatal pit bull attack
Bell County, TX Je'vaeh Mayes, 2 Fatal pit bull attack
January 2014
McLean County, IL Kara Hartrich, 4 Fatal pit bull attack
Comal County, TX Betty Clark, 75 Fatal pit bull attack
Harris County, TX Christina Bell, 43 Fatal pit bull attack
That picture of pitbulls is a big fat fuckimg lie. I’ve a half pit half doberman dog. He is the sweetest dog in the world, and only play bites. Not ALL pit bulls are bad. Only the ones that hurt people are the abused an forced to fight ones. I say here should be no ban. But, due to the dumbasses and pit bull haters, there may be a time where ALL pit bulls are banned.
So i see from the posts here that we arent arguing that pits are dangerous and should be banned , we are arguing that cops and victims cant ID the dogs that kill properly and pits are getting a bad rap because of it. LOL you pit nutters are something else. BAN THE BREED ,END THE DEED.
Shame on the pit nutters!
Pit Bulls are for trash people who have some serious paranoia issues. These people all suffer from the same lil dik syndrome and think the dog will make them tough. Thanks to the laws in Denver banning pit bulls, serious bites and mauling’s on adults and children are now almost non-existent. Prior to the law, every night on the news people were permanently maimed or killed by the pit bulls. It seemed like one or two per week.
It does seem that our animal control is slacking on these dogs lately. So I expect someone to get mauled soon, the dog catcher will get fired, and Denver will get serious again about catching pit bulls and charging their owners. Just a matter of time.