Aurora seeks to explain approach to undocumented immigrants

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AURORA |City officials aren’t enthusiastic about being labeled a “sanctuary city” when it comes to illegal immigration, and they are reaching out for help with that perception.

Jeanette Vizguerra holds hands with Ezzie Dominguez on Thursday Aug. 20, 2015 at City Park. Around 30 supporters gathered at City Park Thursday to encourage the U.S.Immigration and Customs Enforcement to extend the stay of Aurora resident Jeanette Vizguerra. For the past six years, Vizguerra has fought against being deported. Photo by Gabriel Christus/Aurora Sentinel

During a Sept. 14 study session, City Council members approved sending a letter to Colorado’s congressional delegation and the Department of Homeland Security outlining Aurora’s policy relating to the arrest and detention of undocumented immigrants.

The impetus for trying to shed the “sanctuary city” label appears to be efforts in Congress to deny funding to state and local governments with “sanctuary city” laws that prevent law enforcement officers from taking actions regarding immigration status. In particular, city staff have cited a listing on NumbersUSA.com — an anti-immigration activist organization — that lists Aurora as a “sanctuary city.”

The draft of the letter states that Aurora police are “focused on building relationships based on trust with our immigrant communities,” and that requiring APD to enforce immigration laws “jeopardizes that trust and impairs our ability to work with immigrant communities to prevent and solve crime.”

Last month, Aurora’s Federal, State and Intergovernmental Relations Policy Committee sought an overview of the city’s policies regarding arrest and detention of undocumented immigrants, which prompted police and courts officials to compile a review of how the city handles the issue.

Dr. Zelda DeBoyes, Aurora’s court administrator, explained that when individuals are booked into the city’s holding facility, arrestees are fingerprinted and that information is provided to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI). CBI, in turn, provides that data to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), which determines whether the arrestee is in the country illegally and if their “criminal activity may warrant removal from the country.”

When ICE designates someone as a priority for detention, a detainer request is sent to the city’s holding facility, and the city holds the arrestee for up to four hours. The limit on honoring that detainer request, the City Attorney’s Office has said, stems from concerns that holding an arrestee longer than that poses the potential for violating an individual’s Fourth Amendment rights and opening the city up to a possible lawsuit.

DeBoyes noted that when Aurora did participate in the Secure Communities initiative — which has since been replaced by the Priority Enforcement Program — the result was costly, and often, ICE was not able to pick all of the individuals the local court detained.

“Under Secure Communities we would have anywhere between 1,100 to 1,300 people that we reported as being illegal,” she said. “The numbers they would pick up would be minuscule compared to the numbers we reported to ICE.”

“Throughout the country in major cities, most police chiefs have incorporated a policy that the police department will not take a role in enforcing immigration,” said Aurora Police Chief Nick Metz at the meeting in August.

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MrColorado
MrColorado
6 years ago

The entire Country is de facto a sanctuary country IF you stay out of trouble and don’t get arrested.

Do something stupid like get got with drugs, leave the scene of an accident, drive drunk or get arrested for assault when you know you’re here illegally and of course ICE is going to take a look at you.

NotMyMonkey
NotMyMonkey
6 years ago

A rose is a rose by any other name and AURORA IS a SANCTUARY CITY regardless of what label you put on it.

Our military defends our country only to have the barn door left open here at home. We are being overrun by people breaking the law by coming here without permission.

Enforce the laws – all laws! That’s what law enforcement agents are sworn to do, right?

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  NotMyMonkey

“A rose by any other name would smell as sweet

Perhaps “Calling a spade a spade” is the turn of phrase you’re looking for?

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

“Perhaps “Calling a spade a spade” is the turn of phrase you’re looking for?”
That turn of phrase does not support your slightly veiled accusation of racism. It has its origins in ancient Greece. Educate yourself.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  Aldo Elmnight

I can see someone calls black folk spades at home… first off he was correcting her mesh of two separate idioms. Secondly calling a spade a spade is not a racist idiom and originates long before the racial slur of calling blacks spades.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  NotMyMonkey

I’d imagine that such an attitude could make selling houses to about 20% of Aurora’s population somewhat problematic.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

That’s the home builders and banks problem, not the law.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Not if you are a real estate agent.

Colleen M.
Colleen M.
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

How do people that are illegally here buy a home?

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  NotMyMonkey

All laws, what about the whole not arresting people without due cause? Is that something that an office should play it safe with? Sometimes computer systems fail. Then we falsely arrest an American citizen? Why should that risk fall solely on local police departments?

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

Who said anything about people being arrested without due cause. If someone is here illegally and a LEO has probable cause they should be arrested and deported.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  Aldo Elmnight

I’ve never heard of someone with either such blind faith in the federal government databases or such willingness to falsely imprison American Citizens. I know neither of these are you Aldo. You know for a fact ALL government branches are incompetent.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

They’re here illegally, due cause enough for you?

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Do you two really not understand the point being made here? Computer systems fail. These are people being arrested for something else. Not for being here illegally. Being here illegally is not a primary offense to local police. The risk that is falling on local police forces is this; If for some reason the person is not actually here illegally then what the local police department has done is called false imprisonment. Which leads to lawsuits and uproar. Neither of which is the responsibility of local police departments. It also seems the position of those in power that it is not their risk to take. When flagged they hold those flagged for 4 hours beyond what they would hold them for the crime they committed. So why should local municipalities take on the risk of false imprisonment lawsuits, when it is obviously the responsibility of the federal government?

withersteen
6 years ago

Let’s not let facts cloud your right-wing Republican viewpoint.

Immigration laws are Federal laws, under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government. Just as the FBI does not investigate shoplifting, local law enforcement is out of its jurisdiction when it comes to immigration law.

Obama has deported more people than any other President, at a rate roughly 50% greater than Bush the Lesser.

Crime rates are down, and undocumented immigrants offend at a rate lower than natural-born citizens.

Yes, let’s enforce all the laws: I’d like to see Obama prosecute our laws prohibiting torture against the previous administration.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

No he hasn’t. He is using figures that no one ever used before. By this we mean; he is now telling the BP instead of just bringing people to the border and sending them back over; they have to turn them over to ICE. ICE then “deports” them but this is not the same as ICE deporting someone who they themselves picked up; etc.

The figures from Obama are not the same and this myth that he has deporting more than any other President was proven to be a lie by his former AG; Eric Holder.

Your facts on crime rates are also faulty. They do not check a box when you are arrested for US citizen; legal immigrant or illegal so how do you know? and most of the ciminals in the jails are illegals based on crime stats that are kept.

The laws we need to enforce are ones that keep illegals and others not allowed to work here from working; getting an entry / exit visa for all people who come here who are not permanent residents and or US citizens and clarifying birth right citizenship to take away entitlements to babies of illegals and birth tourism.

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

Anyone, including you, Trump, Cruz, et al., who would deny natural-born citizens their 14th Amendment rights to Due Process and Equal Protection is a traitor to our Constitution.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

This law was put in place due to slavery. That was in the 19th C. Don’t you think this needs to be updated like so many other laws have been? and SCOTUS has only ruled on children of legal residents; never on children of illegals and birth tourism.
Do you really think that in this day and age when you can be in another country in a matter of hours; that anyone should be given US citizenship just because they are born here? Give us a break!
We didn’t have immigration laws in the 19th C as there weren’t that many people and it took a long time to go a short distance. That is no longer the case.
NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

The 14th Amendment was put into place to ensure that all people born in this country are citizens, without any requirement to show papers or ancestry. How did our Founding Fathers put it? “Created Equal.”

And the courts have certainly ruled on this topic: United States v. Wong Kim Ark (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Wong_Kim_Ark)

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

You prove once again, by continuing to write down this wrong-headed, pretzel logic, you have no idea of what you’re talking about, you know only what the liberals say and you parrot their talking points, no more. The FF were indeed talking about black slaves, not law breaking Mexicans swarming across our Southern border.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Sorry to have to school you on Constitutional law , Mr. Goo-

See US v. Wong, which is a Supreme Court decision affirming birthright citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants. ALL persons born here are automatically citizens. That includes you, assuming you were born here. It does not matter your parents status.

The Founding Fathers set forth a vision of equality among Americans so that our country would be stronger. No divisions among those born here, no matter their heritage. Yes, they implemented it imperfectly. And, yes, we have been expanding our ideas of freedom and equality: “In order to form a more perfect union.”

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

It’s in the constitution goo, that’s what he said. It’s called an amendment to the constitution. It was number 14. I am not sure where you are coming from?

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

BTW, how did you get your citizenship? You weren’t, by chance, born here, were you?

Nick Campbell
Nick Campbell
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

I was born here and both of my parents were LEGAL residents, so I would have no problem if someone checked my status.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

We don’t know when our parents got here but they were here legally and we were born here which makes us a US citizen. How do you justify birth tourism and as well births to people here temporarily or here illegally getting US citizenship for their babies? Most modern countries except the US and Canada have taken this away due to entitlements.

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

I don’t have to justify “birth tourism” or any other kind of birth. How babies are born is never the fault of the child. Got it? That’s exactly why we have the 14th Amendment Citizenship clause: No Proof Necessary of Parent’s Heritage- Just Gotta Be Born Here. Equal. Same As You.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

By being born here, the 14th amendment granted you citizenship. That is all. No status check necessary

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

At the turn of the century, America wanted immigrants, they sought out immigrants to come and inhabit America, that is no longer the case. My grandparents went through Ellis Island LEGALLY. Don’t try to mince words, you’re not very good at it, ‘deny and deflect’ the Democrat rule.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Again, what your grandparents and parents have done has no sway on your birthright citizenship, unless you were not born on this soil. Like Ted Cruz, John McCain, and some say, Barack Obama. No matter where they were born, they can claim citizenship based on their parent’s status.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

No, you’re a traitor to our country. Socialist bastard.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Now, now: Perhaps you should check your meds, get something to eat, and maybe take a nap?

Why do my 1st Amendment rights of Free Speech cause you such a conniption? Even bastards can claim birthright citizenship, no papers required!

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Says they guy actively taking part in a socialist program, medicaid/medicare.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

We’ve had this conversation before partner, I paid into SS for 40 years, I don’t receive Medicaid and never have, the rest of my savings I earned. If everyone lived their life as I have, our country would not be facing a $18.5 TRILLION debt, with $2 BILLION daily in interest alone.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Actually haven’t had the conversation before. But do you understand that social security is a socialist program? Tell me your smart enough to understand that?

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

Sure we have, but that’s beside the point. And yes, I understand the government instituted a ‘forced savings’ plan because they understood that most would not save enough for their retirement. This was in place long before pension plans, retirement accounts, etc. I paid into a social program, you widen the meaning calling a paid into program, Socialist, which brings a whole new meaning to the conversation. We have too many social programs, most are NOT paid into by those who receive the benefits, now that’s Socialism in full bloom.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

So you actively take part in a socialist program got it. Socialism bad, arg!!!

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

If you head is as hard as I suspect from our dialogue, you can’t wrap it around the fact that I didn’t depend on the government to do anything but protect me, my family, and our country. I PAID INTO SS FOR 40 YEARS, which was a forced savings account that the same government stole the money from and in it’s place put IOU’s, Socialism, no thanks, they’d steal the pennies from a dead mans eyes.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

You paying into a socialist program does not mean it is not a socialist program. Also you did not pay in what you are taking out. You are a liar if you claim that is true. How much were you making in 1970? How much is your check today?

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  ezaspie

I understand that SS was instituted as a social program, I paid into it what the government thought that I should at what wage I was making at any time. With interest, garnered over those 40 years, you tell me, am I even getting what I paid into it back? Socialism is what I see and hear daily on the television and radio, people in the 30’s on disability, came over from Medicaid, or unemployment, had plenty of time there to find a ‘disease’ that qualified them for more ‘free stuff’ 30 year old, already a dependent of the taxpayer. Free cab rides for those on disability too, free health care for all, well all, if you don’t consider those paying much higher premiums to include those who won’t or can’t pay anything, most on Medicaid. This will end up in the laps of the states after a few years of the 10 to 20% kick in by the Feds. Don’t get started on women who make babies out of wedlock with multiple partners who never pay for anything (mother or sperm donor), especially a child, then the women gets a handsome check from those same working people to make sure she has a home, food, clothing, a car, a cellphone (I don’t even have a cellphone btw) every kid you see coming out of school has one plugged into their ear, everyone. And you compare what I paid into for 40 years with this? Nonsense. Vote for the Socialist out of NH, he at least claims he’s a Socialist.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  gofastgo

Ha that last line gave me a real chuckle.

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

That deportation rate is falsified. Prior to Obama the deportation numbers did not include illegals picked up in the desert by border patrol. Now they do. More lies from the Marxist in Chief.

dougt
dougt
6 years ago
Reply to  Aldo Elmnight

You realize that pew research has shown the number of illegals in the usa has gone down since 2007. They don’t use goverment numbers. And I’m guessing you have zero clue what a Marxist is

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

Sweet! So when the Aurora PD find the sawed off shoot gun in my possession (violation of federal law) they will just let me go? What about that brick of cocaine in my car trunk? That is only a violation of federal law so Aurora PD should not mind.

ezaspie
ezaspie
6 years ago
Reply to  Aldo Elmnight

Also this is a violation of local and state laws. Very rarely are drug or gun cases tried by the federal government. They are tried by state and local. We passed laws that made drug possession illegal in our state. come on man, know the law before you jump down people throats. There are currently thousands of Coloradans breaking federal law, but not state laws by growing or smoking marijuana. That is only a violation of federal law, Aurora PD DOES NOT CARE!!!

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

How about the ‘legal dope’ in Colorado and Oregon? Oh, you forgot that. Obama has NOT deported more than any other president, that’s just untrue. He counts turning folks away at the border as ‘deportation’, it’s not.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago

We are curious Chief Metz and Aurora city council; if we are going to have a situation like they have had in many other places n this country? Maybe some of you have forgotten Baskin and Robins but many of us haven’t!

Secured Communities treated all illegals the same. PEP is a total joke as they are not prioritizing anyone and much fewer people are being deported using this.

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

English, much?

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

Think much?

Nick Campbell
Nick Campbell
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

Secured Communities left the cities and counties to pay for incarceration of the detainees, so it’s really no different than No Child Left Unscrewed(behind) that also failed to fund the program. Local cops don’t have the authority that ICE has unless they have been deputized by ICE, but I don’t see a need for that when ICE employed over 19,000 people in 2014(second only to the FBI if I remember correctly). With that many employees, a 4 hour window to pick them up should be no problem. As usual, it comes down to money and who pays.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

This sounds like the mess our education system has been in since we were forced in 1982 to educate all kids no matter their status and since the feds only pay for 10 % of the education costs in CO; that’s left to the state and the local school districts. Add in Tabor and we have no funding for a lot of things like roads and bridges.

19000 across the country is not that many and they have other duties besides this. They are also stuck with arresting the illegals the BP bring in due to new policies by Obama that don’t allow the BP to release them at the border so he can inflate his deportation numbers.

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

We have funding for roads and bridges. It is being diverted elsewhere by politicians.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  Aldo Elmnight

No we don’t. That funding is like higher ed funding due to TABOR; its free money. We mean its the only money that can be raided to balance our budget so that’s what loses every year and mostly its the money to fix the roads and bridges.

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

a ‘4 hour window’ and make sure, or Aurora will release them into the public once again, of course their kids are already enrolled in our ‘dual language’ public schools too, our kids take a back seat to learn because of it.

Nick Campbell
Nick Campbell
6 years ago

How does the city decide which federal laws it chooses to enforce? I wonder how long they would hold a legal resident that has been arrested for the same crime, since our laws are written for Americans and legal immigrants there must be loopholes galore for illegals.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

I believe they hold each individual for the same amount of time as any other for a given crime. Your arrest information is entered as for any other citation. If DHS wants you, they can come get you. Once any person has fulfilled their obligation to the law enforcement agency which detained them, they are free to resume their normal business.

A “Get out of jail free” card is only in the game of Monopoly.

Nick Campbell
Nick Campbell
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

You may be right. On another subject, since hiring an undocumented worker is a federal crime, I guess these employers can only be arrested and detained by a federal agent too. No wonder we don’t hear of many employers arrested.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

I would think that the lack of enforcement against employers is due to the powers-that-be fear of coming across as anti-business. Just like no one went to jail for breaking the banking system in 2008.

Nick Campbell
Nick Campbell
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

If you can’t stay in business hiring legal workers, you shouldn’t be in business. I agree with you on the banking fiasco of ’08.

withersteen
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

Well, we can’t shop at “Everyday Low Prices” if we give decent wages and benefits to everyone.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

Socialist bastard.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  withersteen

‘resume their normal business’? ILLEGAL ALIEN? What business? What law abiding business? You don’t know what you’re talking about, you never do. You stand firm on the idea of ‘open borders’ and ‘individual rights’ and to HELL with America’s and it’s borders, you all make me sick to my stomach.

jmfay
jmfay
6 years ago
Reply to  Nick Campbell

In this county; the 18th especially; the DA’s office throws the book at you for the most insignificant “crime”. We ought to know as they have done this to us twice now; we got the first one dismisses but the second is still pending.

The same judges who don’t feel the need to abide by state and federal laws; are “law enforcement” friends. That is how the justice system works in these 4 counties and Brachler wants to run for Senate based on his handling of Holmes?

The same DA who is harassing us for doing nothing but attending local public meetings that we have been going to for a long time is the same one who wasted millons on Holmes when there was a deal on the table which is what he ended up getting too.

Brachler probably helps illegals as there is no detainer in the 18th either but doesn’t help US citizens being bullied!

NO amnesty. NO work permits. NO nothing but deportation.

gofastgo
gofastgo
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

The monster planned and carried out his plan, murdering 12 and injuring 70 more, some with life altering injuries, and you wanted Brachler to take a plea? Idiot.

Mcs Vette
Mcs Vette
6 years ago
Reply to  jmfay

I think you just don’t like Brachler? no? Or better yet, don’t like Republicans in general.. no?

Trying to connect wrong dots…

I agree with you that Most Democrats and Some Republicans are guilty of sympathizing with ILLEGAL immigrants. But to connect theater shooting with illegal immigrants? huh?

Aldo Elmnight
Aldo Elmnight
6 years ago

I guess I don’t have to get that tax stamp and approval from the sheriff to own that fully automatic rifle. Thanks Aurora!

AgendaBuster
AgendaBuster
6 years ago

If Aurora isn’t a Sanctuary City, how does Aurora explain all the businesses along E. Colfax, Montview Blvd and other streets. The city looks like Tijuana in some parts of town.

Rockit Sientisst
Rockit Sientisst
6 years ago

Maybe the easily-purchased Ward I hack Sally Mounier could explain how her plan to spend hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars – you know, the ones that legal workers pay – on a refuge for undocumented day laborers fits into this scenario?

withersteen
6 years ago

Undocumented workers pay an average of One Billion Dollars A Month in Social Security taxes alone. This is money they will never get back in retirement funds due to their status. They also pay income tax & sales tax, and are not likely to ever be on public welfare due to their status. Regularize them and we can all reap the benefits.